Unfortunatellly The Educational Pack as well as the Experience Pack are
available in English only.
This would be OK for me.
But furthermore they require the English OS and do not install on my german
system.

It would just be too much work to re-install the sytem with the Englsih
version and the MUI on top.
Does any of the specialists have an idea for a workaround?

Any of the insiders having an estimation if we might perhaps see these pack
nationalized?

Rainald

The Enhancement Pack, featuring the top five most popular programs from the
two you mentioned, is available for download here:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/d...k/default.mspx
It includes Ink Desktop, the Snipping Tool, Send to Microsoft Office OneNote
2003, Hexic Deluxe for Tablet PC and the Energy Blue Theme. It is available
for 15 regions in the world, and does not depend on the English-only Windows
XP operating system to install.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"Rainald Taesler" <taesler@gmx.de> wrote in message
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> Unfortunatellly The Educational Pack as well as the Experience Pack are
> available in English only.
> This would be OK for me.
> But furthermore they require the English OS and do not install on my
> german system.
>
> It would just be too much work to re-install the sytem with the Englsih
> version and the MUI on top.
> Does any of the specialists have an idea for a workaround?
>
> Any of the insiders having an estimation if we might perhaps see these
> pack nationalized?
>
> Rainald
>
>
>

Chris H. wrote:
> The Enhancement Pack, featuring the top five most popular programs
> from the two you mentioned, is available for download here:
> ...

Thanks, Chris.
It's been on my machines for quite some months.
I just would like to have the other two.

Rainald

The "other two" are available only for English-based operating systems.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"Rainald Taesler" <taesler@gmx.de> wrote in message
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> Chris H. wrote:
>> The Enhancement Pack, featuring the top five most popular programs
>> from the two you mentioned, is available for download here:
>> ...
>
> Thanks, Chris.
> It's been on my machines for quite some months.
> I just would like to have the other two.
>
> Rainald

Chris H. wrote:
>>> The Enhancement Pack, featuring the top five most popular programs
>>> from the two you mentioned, is available for download here:
>>> ...
>>
>> Thanks, Chris.
>> It's been on my machine for quite some months.
>> I just would like to have the other two.
>>
> The "other two" are available only for English-based operating
> systems.

I know.
That's why asked my two questions:
>>
Does any of the specialists have an idea for a workaround?

Any of the insiders having an estimation if we might perhaps see these
pack
nationalized?
<<

Rainald

Rainald, I wouldn't expect to see a lot more work done on any of the XP
PowerToys.

Individually, they're unsupported, but in the Packs they are. Adding
additional languages at this point probably won't happen with the Vista
release next year.
--
Terri Stratton
Microsoft Featured Community
http://thetabletpc.net
Windows MVP - Tablet PC
http://writepc.com - a site for UMPCs

"Rainald Taesler" <taesler@gmx.de> wrote in message
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> Chris H. wrote:
>>>> The Enhancement Pack, featuring the top five most popular programs
>>>> from the two you mentioned, is available for download here:
>>>> ...
>>>
>>> Thanks, Chris.
>>> It's been on my machine for quite some months.
>>> I just would like to have the other two.
>>>
>> The "other two" are available only for English-based operating
>> systems.
>
> I know.
> That's why asked my two questions:
>>>
> Does any of the specialists have an idea for a workaround?
>
> Any of the insiders having an estimation if we might perhaps see these
> pack
> nationalized?
> <<
>
> Rainald
>
>

terri wrote:
>>> The "other two" are available only for English-based operating
>>> systems.
>>
>> I know.
>> That's why asked my two questions:
>> >>
>> Does any of the specialists have an idea for a workaround?
>>
>> Any of the insiders having an estimation if we might perhaps see
>> these pack
>> nationalized?
>> <<
>
> Rainald, I wouldn't expect to see a lot more work done on any of the
> XP PowerToys.

That's what I feared :-( :-(

> Individually, they're unsupported, but in the Packs they are.

What do you mean by this?

> Adding additional languages at this point probably won't happen with
> the Vista release next year.

As said, I would not have the need for *nationalization.
Just a way to install the English versions.

Are the differences of the OS so big that there are valis technical
reasons for blocking the usage under an non-English version of the OS?
For non-Latin character languages I would understand this. But for
German vs. English?

Rainald

Power Toys are side contributions not necessarily from Microsoft and have
not had the thorough testing a "pack" released by that company goes through
before release. Power Toys are not supported as a "program" but offered for
the users enjoyment. Packs are offered by Microsoft as add-ons to existing
programs and are supported.

As for the two packs, they're supported only on English-based installations
because no time was spent to test on all the other languages. At the time
of release, the English-based OS was the target area. Since Vista has come
along, the Tablet Team at Microsoft will not be revisiting those packs for
further development.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"Rainald Taesler" <taesler@gmx.de> wrote in message
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> terri wrote:
>>>> The "other two" are available only for English-based operating
>>>> systems.
>>>
>>> I know.
>>> That's why asked my two questions:
>>> >>
>>> Does any of the specialists have an idea for a workaround?
>>>
>>> Any of the insiders having an estimation if we might perhaps see
>>> these pack
>>> nationalized?
>>> <<
>>
>> Rainald, I wouldn't expect to see a lot more work done on any of the
>> XP PowerToys.
>
> That's what I feared :-( :-(
>
>> Individually, they're unsupported, but in the Packs they are.
>
> What do you mean by this?
>
>> Adding additional languages at this point probably won't happen with the
>> Vista release next year.
>
> As said, I would not have the need for *nationalization.
> Just a way to install the English versions.
>
> Are the differences of the OS so big that there are valis technical
> reasons for blocking the usage under an non-English version of the OS? For
> non-Latin character languages I would understand this. But for German vs.
> English?
>
> Rainald
>
>

Chris H. wrote:

>> As said, I would not have the need for *nationalization.
>> Just a way to install the English versions.
>>
>> Are the differences of the OS so big that there are valid technical
>> reasons for blocking the usage under an non-English version of the
>> OS? For non-Latin character languages I would understand this. But
>> for German vs. English?
>
> [...] Power Toys are not supported as a
> "program" but offered for the users enjoyment. Packs are offered by
> Microsoft as add-ons to existing programs and are supported.

It was only *packs* I'd been asking about.

> As for the two packs, they're supported only on English-based
> installations because no time was spent to test on all the other
> languages.

That's what I understood from the beginning.
But I thought that perhaps there might be some workaround to fool the
install routine and circumvent the restrictions.

> At the time of release, the English-based OS was the
> target area. Since Vista has come along, the Tablet Team at
> Microsoft will not be revisiting those packs for further
> development.

Too sad ...
IMHO even MS should have understood that there some people living
outside God's own country and using the OS with a different language
....

Rainald

Rainald, search around in the Tablet PC Buzz forums. Some clever users have
figured out how to circumvent the language condition in the installer for
those packs. However, they are still in English.

--
Josh Einstein / Tablet PC MVP
Einstein Technologies, LLC
-----------------------------------------------------
Tablet Enhancements for Outlook 3.0 Now Available
Unleash the potential of Outlook on your Tablet PC, Origami, or UMPC.
Try it for 15 days - http://www.tabletoutlook.com/Go.ashx?id=ng


"Rainald Taesler" <taesler@gmx.de> wrote in message
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> Chris H. wrote:
>
>>> As said, I would not have the need for *nationalization.
>>> Just a way to install the English versions.
>>>
>>> Are the differences of the OS so big that there are valid technical
>>> reasons for blocking the usage under an non-English version of the
>>> OS? For non-Latin character languages I would understand this. But
>>> for German vs. English?
>>
>> [...] Power Toys are not supported as a
>> "program" but offered for the users enjoyment. Packs are offered by
>> Microsoft as add-ons to existing programs and are supported.
>
> It was only *packs* I'd been asking about.
>
>> As for the two packs, they're supported only on English-based
>> installations because no time was spent to test on all the other
>> languages.
>
> That's what I understood from the beginning.
> But I thought that perhaps there might be some workaround to fool the
> install routine and circumvent the restrictions.
>
>> At the time of release, the English-based OS was the
>> target area. Since Vista has come along, the Tablet Team at
>> Microsoft will not be revisiting those packs for further development.
>
> Too sad ...
> IMHO even MS should have understood that there some people living outside
> God's own country and using the OS with a different language ...
>
> Rainald
>
>

Josh Einstein wrote:

>>> As for the two packs, they're supported only on English-based
>>> installations because no time was spent to test on all the other
>>> languages.
>>
>> That's what I understood from the beginning.
>> But I thought that perhaps there might be some workaround to fool
>> the
>> install routine and circumvent the restrictions.
>
> Rainald, search around in the Tablet PC Buzz forums. Some clever
> users have figured out how to circumvent the language condition in
> the installer for those packs. However, they are still in English.

Thanks, Josh!
Will do so.
There's no problem at all for me with software in English.
TEO wouldn't be interesting for me, otherwise ;-) ;-)

Rainald

One of these days, I will get around to localizing it.. I promise. :)

But I also promise I'll never block the installation for someone who is on a
non-english system. That would just be bad for business.

--
Josh Einstein / Tablet PC MVP
Einstein Technologies, LLC
-----------------------------------------------------
Tablet Enhancements for Outlook 3.0 Now Available
Unleash the potential of Outlook on your Tablet PC, Origami, or UMPC.
Try it for 15 days - http://www.tabletoutlook.com/Go.ashx?id=ng


"Rainald Taesler" <taesler@gmx.de> wrote in message
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> Josh Einstein wrote:
>
>>>> As for the two packs, they're supported only on English-based
>>>> installations because no time was spent to test on all the other
>>>> languages.
>>>
>>> That's what I understood from the beginning.
>>> But I thought that perhaps there might be some workaround to fool the
>>> install routine and circumvent the restrictions.
>>
>> Rainald, search around in the Tablet PC Buzz forums. Some clever
>> users have figured out how to circumvent the language condition in
>> the installer for those packs. However, they are still in English.
>
> Thanks, Josh!
> Will do so.
> There's no problem at all for me with software in English.
> TEO wouldn't be interesting for me, otherwise ;-) ;-)
>
> Rainald
>
>

Hello World, on Thu, 7 Sep 2006 22:35:47 +0200, Rainald Taesler wrote:

>Thanks, Josh!
>Will do so

As a french, I have these threads bookmarked :
http://www.tabletpcbuzz.com/forum/to...TOPIC_ID=23744
(and the reasons are explained here :
http://www.tabletpcbuzz.com/forum/to...TOPIC_ID=26006 )
--
Didier B. / torgamm
http://www.pocketpcfreeware.com

Mickey Segal wrote:
>> I'll try the workarounds tomorrow or over the weekend and have a
>> look.
>
> InkArt is called ArtRage: http://www.ambientdesign.com/artrage.html
> and the free version of 2.0 is good but the full version is better.

Thanks for the reference. Will collect it.

> The flash card program is good if you need flash cards.

I do not really *need* it. And it seems that the really needed things
are in the "Enhacement Pack" too. But investigating "educational
stuff", I want to try it out.

Thanks again

Rainald

torgamm wrote:
>> Which programs are you trying to get? Many of the best are in the
>> Enhancement Pack, and others such as InkArt have later free or
>> commercial versions.
>
> That's right. Enhancement Pack has _almost_ the best utilities.
> IMHO, Equation Writer is the one I'd miss more. I don't use Flash
> Cards and InkArt is a rebranded Artrage without any modification.

Yes, it seems that I do already have the the important things as a
part of the Enhacement pack.

Thanks again for your assistance.

Rainald