In article <ecWGDOA0GHA.4648@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, taesler@gmx.de
says...
> Sorry, Grant I do not quite understand this.
> My comment was only referring to your findings that when one chooses
> "Paste as a Picture" as a workaround for not loosing the text parts
> from Journal one looses the ability to search in the pasted image.

That is quite true, and to be expected. You just can't expect Onenote to
be able to read handwriting in a picture. Maybe someday.

But my primary complaint was this: Say you have a Journal page where you
have pasted a picture of something then written on or around that picture
using ink. Now select that entire journal page and copy it. Now try to
paste that into OneNote. You loose that picture from the original Journal
page. The only way to retain that original picture is to past the whole
thing as a picture. But then your ink is no longer ink.

Actually, what I end up doing is to paste as ink then go back and copy
the pictures from Journal. It is a pain but it gives the best results.

Thnaks for clarifying.
I'm with you as far as the shortcomings are concerned.

Rainald
P.S. Did post the problem in Connect?


Grant Robertson wrote:
> In article <ecWGDOA0GHA.4648@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, taesler@gmx.de
> says...
>> Sorry, Grant I do not quite understand this.
>> My comment was only referring to your findings that when one
>> chooses
>> "Paste as a Picture" as a workaround for not loosing the text parts
>> from Journal one looses the ability to search in the pasted image.
>
> That is quite true, and to be expected. You just can't expect
> Onenote
> to be able to read handwriting in a picture. Maybe someday.
>
> But my primary complaint was this: Say you have a Journal page where
> you have pasted a picture of something then written on or around
> that
> picture using ink. Now select that entire journal page and copy it.
> Now try to paste that into OneNote. You loose that picture from the
> original Journal page. The only way to retain that original picture
> is to past the whole thing as a picture. But then your ink is no
> longer ink.
>
> Actually, what I end up doing is to paste as ink then go back and
> copy
> the pictures from Journal. It is a pain but it gives the best
> results.

In article <#S7oN2P0GHA.772@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, taesler@gmx.de says...
> P.S. Did post the problem in Connect?

Don't bother with that any more. It is pretty obvious that they are gonna
fix what they want anyway, regardless of what we post on Connect. The
newsgroups were supposed to be THE way to inform MS about bugs and
suggestions. Now they have gone and created some OTHER way which is much
harder to use. No matter what you post on Connect the only response is
either "Won't fix." or "We'll save this for later." Considering
Microsoft's product cycle "later" is at least 4-6 years from now. I'm
supposed to diligently enter as many ideas as I can now so I can see them
not get implemented 4-6 years from now? I don't think so.

I enter things in the newsgroups so other users can be warned and make
more informed decisions.

Grant, as a technical beta tester, you should be posting your opinions and
bug reports within the beta structure. There is still a long way to go with
Vista.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"Grant Robertson" <BOGUS@BOGUS.com> wrote in message
news:%23eu4uEh0GHA.3476@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> In article <#S7oN2P0GHA.772@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, taesler@gmx.de says...
>> P.S. Did post the problem in Connect?
>
> Don't bother with that any more. It is pretty obvious that they are gonna
> fix what they want anyway, regardless of what we post on Connect. The
> newsgroups were supposed to be THE way to inform MS about bugs and
> suggestions. Now they have gone and created some OTHER way which is much
> harder to use. No matter what you post on Connect the only response is
> either "Won't fix." or "We'll save this for later." Considering
> Microsoft's product cycle "later" is at least 4-6 years from now. I'm
> supposed to diligently enter as many ideas as I can now so I can see them
> not get implemented 4-6 years from now? I don't think so.
>
> I enter things in the newsgroups so other users can be warned and make
> more informed decisions.

Chris H. wrote:

> Grant, as a technical beta tester, you should be posting your
> opinions and bug reports within the beta structure. There is still
> a
> long way to go with Vista.

For suer :-( :-(
But AFAICS Grant was talking about OneNote.

I have the feeling too that posting in Connect will not have any
psoitive effects.

Rainald

A technical beta tester needs to submit any bugs, suggestions, ideas within
that beta structure, since they're all reviewed by the specific beta teams.
Sometimes it seems like nothing happens, but then perhaps the suggestion
isn't a specific target by the individual beta team. A technical beta
tester needs to use the proper channels.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"Rainald Taesler" <taesler@gmx.de> wrote in message
news:uEV8uFm0GHA.4648@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Chris H. wrote:
>
>> Grant, as a technical beta tester, you should be posting your
>> opinions and bug reports within the beta structure. There is still a
>> long way to go with Vista.
>
> For suer :-( :-(
> But AFAICS Grant was talking about OneNote.
>
> I have the feeling too that posting in Connect will not have any psoitive
> effects.
>
> Rainald

Chris H. wrote:
>>> Grant, as a technical beta tester, you should be posting your
>>> opinions and bug reports within the beta structure. There is
>>> still
>>> a long way to go with Vista.
>>
>> For sure :-( :-(
>> But AFAICS Grant was talking about OneNote.
>>
>> I have the feeling too that posting in Connect will not have any
>> positive effects.
>
> A technical beta tester needs to submit any bugs, suggestions, ideas
> within that beta structure, since they're all reviewed by the
> specific beta teams.

Would you count "Connect" as a medium for "technical beta testers"?
I thought that the technical beta testing was limited to a private
area and NDAs etc. Am I wrong in so far?

> Sometimes it seems like nothing happens, but
> then perhaps the suggestion isn't a specific target by the
> individual
> beta team. A technical beta tester needs to use the proper
> channels.

Would "Connect" be the proper channel? Aren't there special newsgroups
for discussing beta issues?

Rainald

Connect in this case IS the technical beta area.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"Rainald Taesler" <taesler@gmx.de> wrote in message
news:OobMxLo0GHA.4312@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Chris H. wrote:
>>>> Grant, as a technical beta tester, you should be posting your
>>>> opinions and bug reports within the beta structure. There is still
>>>> a long way to go with Vista.
>>>
>>> For sure :-( :-(
>>> But AFAICS Grant was talking about OneNote.
>>>
>>> I have the feeling too that posting in Connect will not have any
>>> positive effects.
>>
>> A technical beta tester needs to submit any bugs, suggestions, ideas
>> within that beta structure, since they're all reviewed by the
>> specific beta teams.
>
> Would you count "Connect" as a medium for "technical beta testers"?
> I thought that the technical beta testing was limited to a private area
> and NDAs etc. Am I wrong in so far?
>
>> Sometimes it seems like nothing happens, but
>> then perhaps the suggestion isn't a specific target by the individual
>> beta team. A technical beta tester needs to use the proper channels.
>
> Would "Connect" be the proper channel? Aren't there special newsgroups for
> discussing beta issues?
>
> Rainald

Chris H. wrote:

>> Would "Connect" be the proper channel? Aren't there special
>> newsgroups for discussing beta issues?

> Connect in this case IS the technical beta area.

Thanks!
Rainald

In article <#eu4uEh0GHA.3476@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, BOGUS@BOGUS.com
says...
> Don't bother with that any more.

To clarify, I should have said _I_ don't bother with that any more. I
just dropped the "I" out of laziness. I did not mean that others
shouldn't use it. If you feel it will do some good go for it. _I_ just
don't feel that it will.