Hi all,

I want to buy my 1st tablet pc, and was looking around at the options. My
basic requirement for a tablet are (in order of importance)

Vista Business (maybe Ultimate),
14" screen (13.3" might also be fine),
2GB RAM,
2GHz Core 2 Duo,
1440 x 900 res (or close),
Preferably non-integrated graphics, but that seems like a pipe dream,
Battery life,
Weight.

So, as you can see, size and weight is not so important to me, as I don't
plan on using it in a standing position much. This will be used for drawing
up new UI designs, while commuting on a train, etc. I want to spend no more
than $2500 out the door on it.

I was initially looking at the Tecra M7, until I realized that they have
been EOLed by Toshiba. My next choice is a tricked out Asus R1 (you can bump
the CPU from some places like AGear, see
http://store.agearnotebooks.com/asusr1fs.html).

So, is this a good time to buy a new tablet, or is there some new models
just around the corner that will cause me to kick myself if I buy one right
now? I ask this because currently there seems to be a lull as vendors switch
over from XP to Vista, and I know Intel is coming out with new chipsets like
the GMA 965 in the near future, integrated flash memory for use with
ReadyBoost, etc etc...

BTW, a side question: Can I do an online upgrade of Vista Business to Vista
Ultimate on an OEM version of Vista?

I would really like some advice from those that have a better idea of the
current roadmap wrt to tablets in general.

BitFlipper

Have you looked at the specs on the Toshiba R400? It might be another
option. The M7 may be EOL'd, but I wouldn't be surprised in another
followed with similar specs. After all, the M4 was superceded by the M7.
If the specs are what you want, then I wouldn't worry about the EOL.
Support will be the same whether a newly-released machine or one that's been
around a bit.
--

Terri Stratton
Microsoft Featured Community
http://thetabletpc.net
Forums
http://forums.mobilepcworld.net
Microsoft Windows MVP- Tablet PC


"BitFlipper" <BitFlipper@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:CE5F7944-8A7D-4006-B7EA-FF8DDBE3134E@microsoft.com...
> Hi all,
>
> I want to buy my 1st tablet pc, and was looking around at the options. My
> basic requirement for a tablet are (in order of importance)
>
> Vista Business (maybe Ultimate),
> 14" screen (13.3" might also be fine),
> 2GB RAM,
> 2GHz Core 2 Duo,
> 1440 x 900 res (or close),
> Preferably non-integrated graphics, but that seems like a pipe dream,
> Battery life,
> Weight.
>
> So, as you can see, size and weight is not so important to me, as I don't
> plan on using it in a standing position much. This will be used for
> drawing
> up new UI designs, while commuting on a train, etc. I want to spend no
> more
> than $2500 out the door on it.
>
> I was initially looking at the Tecra M7, until I realized that they have
> been EOLed by Toshiba. My next choice is a tricked out Asus R1 (you can
> bump
> the CPU from some places like AGear, see
> http://store.agearnotebooks.com/asusr1fs.html).
>
> So, is this a good time to buy a new tablet, or is there some new models
> just around the corner that will cause me to kick myself if I buy one
> right
> now? I ask this because currently there seems to be a lull as vendors
> switch
> over from XP to Vista, and I know Intel is coming out with new chipsets
> like
> the GMA 965 in the near future, integrated flash memory for use with
> ReadyBoost, etc etc...
>
> BTW, a side question: Can I do an online upgrade of Vista Business to
> Vista
> Ultimate on an OEM version of Vista?
>
> I would really like some advice from those that have a better idea of the
> current roadmap wrt to tablets in general.
>
> BitFlipper
>

The problem with the R400 is that it has a 12.1" screen. After looking at
non-tablet laptops at Best Buy that have 12.1" screens, I just decided that
it is too small for my taste. I wish that was not the case because that
reduces my tablet options dramatically, but it really is important to me.

As for the Tecra M7, it is just that it is becoming harder to find it in the
configuration I want it in, and this turns out to be most likely related to
the fact that it has been EOLed. Also, looking at the reviews, it got a
so-so rating, so while it is one of the few that have all of the features I
want, it just didn't have the "wow" factor I was looking for (not like the
Lenovo X60, for instance, but that one has the 12.1" screen I'd like to
avaid).

BitFlipper

"terri" wrote:

> Have you looked at the specs on the Toshiba R400? It might be another
> option. The M7 may be EOL'd, but I wouldn't be surprised in another
> followed with similar specs. After all, the M4 was superceded by the M7.
> If the specs are what you want, then I wouldn't worry about the EOL.
> Support will be the same whether a newly-released machine or one that's been
> around a bit.
> --
>
> Terri Stratton
> Microsoft Featured Community
> http://thetabletpc.net
> Forums
> http://forums.mobilepcworld.net
> Microsoft Windows MVP- Tablet PC
>
>
> "BitFlipper" <BitFlipper@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:CE5F7944-8A7D-4006-B7EA-FF8DDBE3134E@microsoft.com...
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I want to buy my 1st tablet pc, and was looking around at the options. My
> > basic requirement for a tablet are (in order of importance)
> >
> > Vista Business (maybe Ultimate),
> > 14" screen (13.3" might also be fine),
> > 2GB RAM,
> > 2GHz Core 2 Duo,
> > 1440 x 900 res (or close),
> > Preferably non-integrated graphics, but that seems like a pipe dream,
> > Battery life,
> > Weight.
> >
> > So, as you can see, size and weight is not so important to me, as I don't
> > plan on using it in a standing position much. This will be used for
> > drawing
> > up new UI designs, while commuting on a train, etc. I want to spend no
> > more
> > than $2500 out the door on it.
> >
> > I was initially looking at the Tecra M7, until I realized that they have
> > been EOLed by Toshiba. My next choice is a tricked out Asus R1 (you can
> > bump
> > the CPU from some places like AGear, see
> > http://store.agearnotebooks.com/asusr1fs.html).
> >
> > So, is this a good time to buy a new tablet, or is there some new models
> > just around the corner that will cause me to kick myself if I buy one
> > right
> > now? I ask this because currently there seems to be a lull as vendors
> > switch
> > over from XP to Vista, and I know Intel is coming out with new chipsets
> > like
> > the GMA 965 in the near future, integrated flash memory for use with
> > ReadyBoost, etc etc...
> >
> > BTW, a side question: Can I do an online upgrade of Vista Business to
> > Vista
> > Ultimate on an OEM version of Vista?
> >
> > I would really like some advice from those that have a better idea of the
> > current roadmap wrt to tablets in general.
> >
> > BitFlipper
> >
>
>

It is very true about the "if you wait for something better, you will wait
forever" type circular logic.

But...

Having said that, we are in noticeable transition period where Vista just
came out and new hardware is being designed to take advantage of some of its
new features. For instance, new laptops/tablets might have *onboard*,
integrated flash memory that makes use of ReadyBoost/SuperFetch features in
Vista. Also, I'd really like to get something better than the current
integrated video solutions the current crop of tablets have. I mean, when
are we going to see Intel's 965 on tablets? That one seems to do away with a
lot of the shortcoming of the 945GM (or 950?). The current crop of
integrated video was just not designed with Vista in mind, which is the first
MS OS that really benefits from better 3D support.

The fact that Toshiba EOLed the M7 means that they will be releasing a
replacement 14.1" tablet for it sometime in the future. This might very well
be the one that will have everything I want, but without knowing for sure
when this will be released, I might as well go with the Asus R1F.

That is, unless someone has some concrete info that it will be released
soon? That is what I mean by "is this a good time to buy, or should I wait x
weeks because something really good is about to be released?"

BitFlipper

"Chris H" wrote:

> Just my personal opinion, but now is as good a time as any to purchase a
> Tablet PC with Vista. The manufacturers are pretty closed mouth about
> "what's next" or if anything is coming down the road in three weeks or
> whatever. They don't tip their hands much because the market is so
> competitive. Besides, in "two weeks" something better, less expensive and
> really what we want will come out anyway. 8-)
>
> I would suggest, however, that you take a look at the Vista comparison
> charts
> (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...ns/choose.mspx)
> and determine for yourself before you order your Tablet PC if you want/need
> the extra items (like Bit Locker) of the Ultimate version over the Business
> version. Overall, it would probably be less expensive to just order with
> Vista Ultimate from the start.
>
> As to what Tablet PCs are available, I'd suggest you check Tablet PC MVP
> Terri Stratton's web site: http://thetabletpc.net for the comparison
> charts. She's got all the latest information listed, and it will probably
> assist you in narrowing down your choices. BTW - I've got a simple SanDisk
> 1 GB memory stick which is Ready Boost enabled, and run it on my Toshiba
> M200. Works neat!
> --
> Chris H.
> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> http://forums.mobilepcworld.net
> Associate Expert
> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>
>
> "BitFlipper" <BitFlipper@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:CE5F7944-8A7D-4006-B7EA-FF8DDBE3134E@microsoft.com...
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I want to buy my 1st tablet pc, and was looking around at the options. My
> > basic requirement for a tablet are (in order of importance)
> >
> > Vista Business (maybe Ultimate),
> > 14" screen (13.3" might also be fine),
> > 2GB RAM,
> > 2GHz Core 2 Duo,
> > 1440 x 900 res (or close),
> > Preferably non-integrated graphics, but that seems like a pipe dream,
> > Battery life,
> > Weight.
> >
> > So, as you can see, size and weight is not so important to me, as I don't
> > plan on using it in a standing position much. This will be used for
> > drawing
> > up new UI designs, while commuting on a train, etc. I want to spend no
> > more
> > than $2500 out the door on it.
> >
> > I was initially looking at the Tecra M7, until I realized that they have
> > been EOLed by Toshiba. My next choice is a tricked out Asus R1 (you can
> > bump
> > the CPU from some places like AGear, see
> > http://store.agearnotebooks.com/asusr1fs.html).
> >
> > So, is this a good time to buy a new tablet, or is there some new models
> > just around the corner that will cause me to kick myself if I buy one
> > right
> > now? I ask this because currently there seems to be a lull as vendors
> > switch
> > over from XP to Vista, and I know Intel is coming out with new chipsets
> > like
> > the GMA 965 in the near future, integrated flash memory for use with
> > ReadyBoost, etc etc...
> >
> > BTW, a side question: Can I do an online upgrade of Vista Business to
> > Vista
> > Ultimate on an OEM version of Vista?
> >
> > I would really like some advice from those that have a better idea of the
> > current roadmap wrt to tablets in general.
> >
> > BitFlipper
> >
>

I think being able to run Vista and get the full Aero experience is more
important to me than most other people, simply because I will be using the
tablet to try out and demo new UI designs (amongst other things). As such,
it would be good to be able to get the full experience.

My understanding is that Vista will run with the full Aero effects on the
current tablets, but not having seen it in action myself, I do not know just
how smooth it is. If it is somewhat sluggish then it might give me the wrong
impression about a particular UI design. I know I am nitpicking but this is
an area that is important to me, so "Vista is Vista, whether you run all the
eye candy or not" is not an accurate statement in my particular case.

I agree with all your other points, so I might as well go ahead and get the
Asus R1F it seems.

BitFlipper


"Chris H" wrote:

> I agree, and you've got no argument from me. 8-) There isn't much we can
> do about what might be coming out Tuesday or a week from Tuesday, or in a
> month of Tuesdays, though. The manufacturers simply don't announce their
> products very much in advance. If I told you Brand X was going to release
> the machine you should purchase next Thursday, and Brand A, which you really
> liked, came out on Friday, that wouldn't be nice, would it? 8-)
>
> Unfortunately, I also know nothing about the graphics area. The
> manufacturers wrestle with functionality versus heat on Tablets, since
> they're meant to be held in your hands. I too would like to see more
> advancement in that area, but in reality Vista is Vista, whether you run all
> the eye candy or not, you still have the advanced security features and
> improved (training!) inking.
> --
> Chris H.
> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> http://forums.mobilepcworld.net
> Associate Expert
> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>
> "BitFlipper" <BitFlipper@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:B613354A-BC26-4A6F-A9A6-CE43017245B6@microsoft.com...
> > It is very true about the "if you wait for something better, you will wait
> > forever" type circular logic.
> >
> > But...
> >
> > Having said that, we are in noticeable transition period where Vista just
> > came out and new hardware is being designed to take advantage of some of
> > its
> > new features. For instance, new laptops/tablets might have *onboard*,
> > integrated flash memory that makes use of ReadyBoost/SuperFetch features
> > in
> > Vista. Also, I'd really like to get something better than the current
> > integrated video solutions the current crop of tablets have. I mean, when
> > are we going to see Intel's 965 on tablets? That one seems to do away
> > with a
> > lot of the shortcoming of the 945GM (or 950?). The current crop of
> > integrated video was just not designed with Vista in mind, which is the
> > first
> > MS OS that really benefits from better 3D support.
> >
> > The fact that Toshiba EOLed the M7 means that they will be releasing a
> > replacement 14.1" tablet for it sometime in the future. This might very
> > well
> > be the one that will have everything I want, but without knowing for sure
> > when this will be released, I might as well go with the Asus R1F.
> >
> > That is, unless someone has some concrete info that it will be released
> > soon? That is what I mean by "is this a good time to buy, or should I wait
> > x
> > weeks because something really good is about to be released?"
> >
> > BitFlipper
> >
> > "Chris H" wrote:
> >
> >> Just my personal opinion, but now is as good a time as any to purchase a
> >> Tablet PC with Vista. The manufacturers are pretty closed mouth about
> >> "what's next" or if anything is coming down the road in three weeks or
> >> whatever. They don't tip their hands much because the market is so
> >> competitive. Besides, in "two weeks" something better, less expensive
> >> and
> >> really what we want will come out anyway. 8-)
> >>
> >> I would suggest, however, that you take a look at the Vista comparison
> >> charts
> >> (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...ns/choose.mspx)
> >> and determine for yourself before you order your Tablet PC if you
> >> want/need
> >> the extra items (like Bit Locker) of the Ultimate version over the
> >> Business
> >> version. Overall, it would probably be less expensive to just order with
> >> Vista Ultimate from the start.
> >>
> >> As to what Tablet PCs are available, I'd suggest you check Tablet PC MVP
> >> Terri Stratton's web site: http://thetabletpc.net for the comparison
> >> charts. She's got all the latest information listed, and it will
> >> probably
> >> assist you in narrowing down your choices. BTW - I've got a simple
> >> SanDisk
> >> 1 GB memory stick which is Ready Boost enabled, and run it on my Toshiba
> >> M200. Works neat!
> >> --
> >> Chris H.
> >> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
> >> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> >> http://forums.mobilepcworld.net
> >> Associate Expert
> >> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> >>
> >>
> >> "BitFlipper" <BitFlipper@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:CE5F7944-8A7D-4006-B7EA-FF8DDBE3134E@microsoft.com...
> >> > Hi all,
> >> >
> >> > I want to buy my 1st tablet pc, and was looking around at the options.
> >> > My
> >> > basic requirement for a tablet are (in order of importance)
> >> >
> >> > Vista Business (maybe Ultimate),
> >> > 14" screen (13.3" might also be fine),
> >> > 2GB RAM,
> >> > 2GHz Core 2 Duo,
> >> > 1440 x 900 res (or close),
> >> > Preferably non-integrated graphics, but that seems like a pipe dream,
> >> > Battery life,
> >> > Weight.
> >> >
> >> > So, as you can see, size and weight is not so important to me, as I
> >> > don't
> >> > plan on using it in a standing position much. This will be used for
> >> > drawing
> >> > up new UI designs, while commuting on a train, etc. I want to spend no
> >> > more
> >> > than $2500 out the door on it.
> >> >
> >> > I was initially looking at the Tecra M7, until I realized that they
> >> > have
> >> > been EOLed by Toshiba. My next choice is a tricked out Asus R1 (you
> >> > can
> >> > bump
> >> > the CPU from some places like AGear, see
> >> > http://store.agearnotebooks.com/asusr1fs.html).
> >> >
> >> > So, is this a good time to buy a new tablet, or is there some new
> >> > models
> >> > just around the corner that will cause me to kick myself if I buy one
> >> > right
> >> > now? I ask this because currently there seems to be a lull as vendors
> >> > switch
> >> > over from XP to Vista, and I know Intel is coming out with new chipsets
> >> > like
> >> > the GMA 965 in the near future, integrated flash memory for use with
> >> > ReadyBoost, etc etc...
> >> >
> >> > BTW, a side question: Can I do an online upgrade of Vista Business to
> >> > Vista
> >> > Ultimate on an OEM version of Vista?
> >> >
> >> > I would really like some advice from those that have a better idea of
> >> > the
> >> > current roadmap wrt to tablets in general.
> >> >
> >> > BitFlipper
> >> >
> >>
>

I agree, and you've got no argument from me. 8-) There isn't much we can
do about what might be coming out Tuesday or a week from Tuesday, or in a
month of Tuesdays, though. The manufacturers simply don't announce their
products very much in advance. If I told you Brand X was going to release
the machine you should purchase next Thursday, and Brand A, which you really
liked, came out on Friday, that wouldn't be nice, would it? 8-)

Unfortunately, I also know nothing about the graphics area. The
manufacturers wrestle with functionality versus heat on Tablets, since
they're meant to be held in your hands. I too would like to see more
advancement in that area, but in reality Vista is Vista, whether you run all
the eye candy or not, you still have the advanced security features and
improved (training!) inking.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
http://forums.mobilepcworld.net
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone

"BitFlipper" <BitFlipper@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:B613354A-BC26-4A6F-A9A6-CE43017245B6@microsoft.com...
> It is very true about the "if you wait for something better, you will wait
> forever" type circular logic.
>
> But...
>
> Having said that, we are in noticeable transition period where Vista just
> came out and new hardware is being designed to take advantage of some of
> its
> new features. For instance, new laptops/tablets might have *onboard*,
> integrated flash memory that makes use of ReadyBoost/SuperFetch features
> in
> Vista. Also, I'd really like to get something better than the current
> integrated video solutions the current crop of tablets have. I mean, when
> are we going to see Intel's 965 on tablets? That one seems to do away
> with a
> lot of the shortcoming of the 945GM (or 950?). The current crop of
> integrated video was just not designed with Vista in mind, which is the
> first
> MS OS that really benefits from better 3D support.
>
> The fact that Toshiba EOLed the M7 means that they will be releasing a
> replacement 14.1" tablet for it sometime in the future. This might very
> well
> be the one that will have everything I want, but without knowing for sure
> when this will be released, I might as well go with the Asus R1F.
>
> That is, unless someone has some concrete info that it will be released
> soon? That is what I mean by "is this a good time to buy, or should I wait
> x
> weeks because something really good is about to be released?"
>
> BitFlipper
>
> "Chris H" wrote:
>
>> Just my personal opinion, but now is as good a time as any to purchase a
>> Tablet PC with Vista. The manufacturers are pretty closed mouth about
>> "what's next" or if anything is coming down the road in three weeks or
>> whatever. They don't tip their hands much because the market is so
>> competitive. Besides, in "two weeks" something better, less expensive
>> and
>> really what we want will come out anyway. 8-)
>>
>> I would suggest, however, that you take a look at the Vista comparison
>> charts
>> (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...ns/choose.mspx)
>> and determine for yourself before you order your Tablet PC if you
>> want/need
>> the extra items (like Bit Locker) of the Ultimate version over the
>> Business
>> version. Overall, it would probably be less expensive to just order with
>> Vista Ultimate from the start.
>>
>> As to what Tablet PCs are available, I'd suggest you check Tablet PC MVP
>> Terri Stratton's web site: http://thetabletpc.net for the comparison
>> charts. She's got all the latest information listed, and it will
>> probably
>> assist you in narrowing down your choices. BTW - I've got a simple
>> SanDisk
>> 1 GB memory stick which is Ready Boost enabled, and run it on my Toshiba
>> M200. Works neat!
>> --
>> Chris H.
>> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
>> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
>> http://forums.mobilepcworld.net
>> Associate Expert
>> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>
>>
>> "BitFlipper" <BitFlipper@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:CE5F7944-8A7D-4006-B7EA-FF8DDBE3134E@microsoft.com...
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > I want to buy my 1st tablet pc, and was looking around at the options.
>> > My
>> > basic requirement for a tablet are (in order of importance)
>> >
>> > Vista Business (maybe Ultimate),
>> > 14" screen (13.3" might also be fine),
>> > 2GB RAM,
>> > 2GHz Core 2 Duo,
>> > 1440 x 900 res (or close),
>> > Preferably non-integrated graphics, but that seems like a pipe dream,
>> > Battery life,
>> > Weight.
>> >
>> > So, as you can see, size and weight is not so important to me, as I
>> > don't
>> > plan on using it in a standing position much. This will be used for
>> > drawing
>> > up new UI designs, while commuting on a train, etc. I want to spend no
>> > more
>> > than $2500 out the door on it.
>> >
>> > I was initially looking at the Tecra M7, until I realized that they
>> > have
>> > been EOLed by Toshiba. My next choice is a tricked out Asus R1 (you
>> > can
>> > bump
>> > the CPU from some places like AGear, see
>> > http://store.agearnotebooks.com/asusr1fs.html).
>> >
>> > So, is this a good time to buy a new tablet, or is there some new
>> > models
>> > just around the corner that will cause me to kick myself if I buy one
>> > right
>> > now? I ask this because currently there seems to be a lull as vendors
>> > switch
>> > over from XP to Vista, and I know Intel is coming out with new chipsets
>> > like
>> > the GMA 965 in the near future, integrated flash memory for use with
>> > ReadyBoost, etc etc...
>> >
>> > BTW, a side question: Can I do an online upgrade of Vista Business to
>> > Vista
>> > Ultimate on an OEM version of Vista?
>> >
>> > I would really like some advice from those that have a better idea of
>> > the
>> > current roadmap wrt to tablets in general.
>> >
>> > BitFlipper
>> >
>>

Just my personal opinion, but now is as good a time as any to purchase a
Tablet PC with Vista. The manufacturers are pretty closed mouth about
"what's next" or if anything is coming down the road in three weeks or
whatever. They don't tip their hands much because the market is so
competitive. Besides, in "two weeks" something better, less expensive and
really what we want will come out anyway. 8-)

I would suggest, however, that you take a look at the Vista comparison
charts
(http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...ns/choose.mspx)
and determine for yourself before you order your Tablet PC if you want/need
the extra items (like Bit Locker) of the Ultimate version over the Business
version. Overall, it would probably be less expensive to just order with
Vista Ultimate from the start.

As to what Tablet PCs are available, I'd suggest you check Tablet PC MVP
Terri Stratton's web site: http://thetabletpc.net for the comparison
charts. She's got all the latest information listed, and it will probably
assist you in narrowing down your choices. BTW - I've got a simple SanDisk
1 GB memory stick which is Ready Boost enabled, and run it on my Toshiba
M200. Works neat!
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
http://forums.mobilepcworld.net
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"BitFlipper" <BitFlipper@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:CE5F7944-8A7D-4006-B7EA-FF8DDBE3134E@microsoft.com...
> Hi all,
>
> I want to buy my 1st tablet pc, and was looking around at the options. My
> basic requirement for a tablet are (in order of importance)
>
> Vista Business (maybe Ultimate),
> 14" screen (13.3" might also be fine),
> 2GB RAM,
> 2GHz Core 2 Duo,
> 1440 x 900 res (or close),
> Preferably non-integrated graphics, but that seems like a pipe dream,
> Battery life,
> Weight.
>
> So, as you can see, size and weight is not so important to me, as I don't
> plan on using it in a standing position much. This will be used for
> drawing
> up new UI designs, while commuting on a train, etc. I want to spend no
> more
> than $2500 out the door on it.
>
> I was initially looking at the Tecra M7, until I realized that they have
> been EOLed by Toshiba. My next choice is a tricked out Asus R1 (you can
> bump
> the CPU from some places like AGear, see
> http://store.agearnotebooks.com/asusr1fs.html).
>
> So, is this a good time to buy a new tablet, or is there some new models
> just around the corner that will cause me to kick myself if I buy one
> right
> now? I ask this because currently there seems to be a lull as vendors
> switch
> over from XP to Vista, and I know Intel is coming out with new chipsets
> like
> the GMA 965 in the near future, integrated flash memory for use with
> ReadyBoost, etc etc...
>
> BTW, a side question: Can I do an online upgrade of Vista Business to
> Vista
> Ultimate on an OEM version of Vista?
>
> I would really like some advice from those that have a better idea of the
> current roadmap wrt to tablets in general.
>
> BitFlipper
>

I'm running it complete with Aero on a couple of Lenovo x60 Tablets as well
as Gateway. One of the Lenovos is an upgrade from XP and the others are
clean installs.

No sluggishness on any of them. I'll be the first to admit that I don't do
any coding or testing like you're describing, though, so your experiences
could be different.

I have also used the Asus and fell in love with it immediately.

As for graphics capability, my Ferrari 1000 and the Lenovos and Asus all had
similar ratings, between 3 and 3.1. Not great, but adequate. I don't like
the rating system since it uses only the lowest rating, but it's what we
have.
--
Terri Stratton
Microsoft Featured Community
http://thetabletpc.net
Forums - http://forums.mobilepcworld.net
Microsoft Windows MVP- Tablet PC

"BitFlipper" <BitFlipper@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0EEB6747-212F-484B-B8C7-9BC183D7C02C@microsoft.com...
>I think being able to run Vista and get the full Aero experience is more
> important to me than most other people, simply because I will be using the
> tablet to try out and demo new UI designs (amongst other things). As
> such,
> it would be good to be able to get the full experience.
>
> My understanding is that Vista will run with the full Aero effects on the
> current tablets, but not having seen it in action myself, I do not know
> just
> how smooth it is. If it is somewhat sluggish then it might give me the
> wrong
> impression about a particular UI design. I know I am nitpicking but this
> is
> an area that is important to me, so "Vista is Vista, whether you run all
> the
> eye candy or not" is not an accurate statement in my particular case.
>
> I agree with all your other points, so I might as well go ahead and get
> the
> Asus R1F it seems.
>
> BitFlipper
>
>
> "Chris H" wrote:
>
>> I agree, and you've got no argument from me. 8-) There isn't much we
>> can
>> do about what might be coming out Tuesday or a week from Tuesday, or in a
>> month of Tuesdays, though. The manufacturers simply don't announce their
>> products very much in advance. If I told you Brand X was going to
>> release
>> the machine you should purchase next Thursday, and Brand A, which you
>> really
>> liked, came out on Friday, that wouldn't be nice, would it? 8-)
>>
>> Unfortunately, I also know nothing about the graphics area. The
>> manufacturers wrestle with functionality versus heat on Tablets, since
>> they're meant to be held in your hands. I too would like to see more
>> advancement in that area, but in reality Vista is Vista, whether you run
>> all
>> the eye candy or not, you still have the advanced security features and
>> improved (training!) inking.
>> --
>> Chris H.
>> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
>> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
>> http://forums.mobilepcworld.net
>> Associate Expert
>> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>
>> "BitFlipper" <BitFlipper@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:B613354A-BC26-4A6F-A9A6-CE43017245B6@microsoft.com...
>> > It is very true about the "if you wait for something better, you will
>> > wait
>> > forever" type circular logic.
>> >
>> > But...
>> >
>> > Having said that, we are in noticeable transition period where Vista
>> > just
>> > came out and new hardware is being designed to take advantage of some
>> > of
>> > its
>> > new features. For instance, new laptops/tablets might have *onboard*,
>> > integrated flash memory that makes use of ReadyBoost/SuperFetch
>> > features
>> > in
>> > Vista. Also, I'd really like to get something better than the current
>> > integrated video solutions the current crop of tablets have. I mean,
>> > when
>> > are we going to see Intel's 965 on tablets? That one seems to do away
>> > with a
>> > lot of the shortcoming of the 945GM (or 950?). The current crop of
>> > integrated video was just not designed with Vista in mind, which is the
>> > first
>> > MS OS that really benefits from better 3D support.
>> >
>> > The fact that Toshiba EOLed the M7 means that they will be releasing a
>> > replacement 14.1" tablet for it sometime in the future. This might
>> > very
>> > well
>> > be the one that will have everything I want, but without knowing for
>> > sure
>> > when this will be released, I might as well go with the Asus R1F.
>> >
>> > That is, unless someone has some concrete info that it will be released
>> > soon? That is what I mean by "is this a good time to buy, or should I
>> > wait
>> > x
>> > weeks because something really good is about to be released?"
>> >
>> > BitFlipper
>> >
>> > "Chris H" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Just my personal opinion, but now is as good a time as any to purchase
>> >> a
>> >> Tablet PC with Vista. The manufacturers are pretty closed mouth about
>> >> "what's next" or if anything is coming down the road in three weeks or
>> >> whatever. They don't tip their hands much because the market is so
>> >> competitive. Besides, in "two weeks" something better, less expensive
>> >> and
>> >> really what we want will come out anyway. 8-)
>> >>
>> >> I would suggest, however, that you take a look at the Vista comparison
>> >> charts
>> >> (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...ns/choose.mspx)
>> >> and determine for yourself before you order your Tablet PC if you
>> >> want/need
>> >> the extra items (like Bit Locker) of the Ultimate version over the
>> >> Business
>> >> version. Overall, it would probably be less expensive to just order
>> >> with
>> >> Vista Ultimate from the start.
>> >>
>> >> As to what Tablet PCs are available, I'd suggest you check Tablet PC
>> >> MVP
>> >> Terri Stratton's web site: http://thetabletpc.net for the comparison
>> >> charts. She's got all the latest information listed, and it will
>> >> probably
>> >> assist you in narrowing down your choices. BTW - I've got a simple
>> >> SanDisk
>> >> 1 GB memory stick which is Ready Boost enabled, and run it on my
>> >> Toshiba
>> >> M200. Works neat!
>> >> --
>> >> Chris H.
>> >> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
>> >> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
>> >> http://forums.mobilepcworld.net
>> >> Associate Expert
>> >> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "BitFlipper" <BitFlipper@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:CE5F7944-8A7D-4006-B7EA-FF8DDBE3134E@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Hi all,
>> >> >
>> >> > I want to buy my 1st tablet pc, and was looking around at the
>> >> > options.
>> >> > My
>> >> > basic requirement for a tablet are (in order of importance)
>> >> >
>> >> > Vista Business (maybe Ultimate),
>> >> > 14" screen (13.3" might also be fine),
>> >> > 2GB RAM,
>> >> > 2GHz Core 2 Duo,
>> >> > 1440 x 900 res (or close),
>> >> > Preferably non-integrated graphics, but that seems like a pipe
>> >> > dream,
>> >> > Battery life,
>> >> > Weight.
>> >> >
>> >> > So, as you can see, size and weight is not so important to me, as I
>> >> > don't
>> >> > plan on using it in a standing position much. This will be used for
>> >> > drawing
>> >> > up new UI designs, while commuting on a train, etc. I want to spend
>> >> > no
>> >> > more
>> >> > than $2500 out the door on it.
>> >> >
>> >> > I was initially looking at the Tecra M7, until I realized that they
>> >> > have
>> >> > been EOLed by Toshiba. My next choice is a tricked out Asus R1 (you
>> >> > can
>> >> > bump
>> >> > the CPU from some places like AGear, see
>> >> > http://store.agearnotebooks.com/asusr1fs.html).
>> >> >
>> >> > So, is this a good time to buy a new tablet, or is there some new
>> >> > models
>> >> > just around the corner that will cause me to kick myself if I buy
>> >> > one
>> >> > right
>> >> > now? I ask this because currently there seems to be a lull as
>> >> > vendors
>> >> > switch
>> >> > over from XP to Vista, and I know Intel is coming out with new
>> >> > chipsets
>> >> > like
>> >> > the GMA 965 in the near future, integrated flash memory for use with
>> >> > ReadyBoost, etc etc...
>> >> >
>> >> > BTW, a side question: Can I do an online upgrade of Vista Business
>> >> > to
>> >> > Vista
>> >> > Ultimate on an OEM version of Vista?
>> >> >
>> >> > I would really like some advice from those that have a better idea
>> >> > of
>> >> > the
>> >> > current roadmap wrt to tablets in general.
>> >> >
>> >> > BitFlipper
>> >> >
>> >>
>>

Thanks for the info! This is very re-assuring indeed. I think I am going to
order the Asus R1F.

Right now it seems a good place to get it is at www.btotech.com. They allow
me to customize it (bump the CPU to 2GHz w 4MB cache, the HD to 100GB at
7200rpm) and their prices seem pretty good (they are in NY, I am in CA). Of
course I am always interested to hear in better alternatives...

BitFlipper

"terri" wrote:

> I'm running it complete with Aero on a couple of Lenovo x60 Tablets as well
> as Gateway. One of the Lenovos is an upgrade from XP and the others are
> clean installs.
>
> No sluggishness on any of them. I'll be the first to admit that I don't do
> any coding or testing like you're describing, though, so your experiences
> could be different.
>
> I have also used the Asus and fell in love with it immediately.
>
> As for graphics capability, my Ferrari 1000 and the Lenovos and Asus all had
> similar ratings, between 3 and 3.1. Not great, but adequate. I don't like
> the rating system since it uses only the lowest rating, but it's what we
> have.
> --
> Terri Stratton
> Microsoft Featured Community
> http://thetabletpc.net
> Forums - http://forums.mobilepcworld.net
> Microsoft Windows MVP- Tablet PC
>
> "BitFlipper" <BitFlipper@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:0EEB6747-212F-484B-B8C7-9BC183D7C02C@microsoft.com...
> >I think being able to run Vista and get the full Aero experience is more
> > important to me than most other people, simply because I will be using the
> > tablet to try out and demo new UI designs (amongst other things). As
> > such,
> > it would be good to be able to get the full experience.
> >
> > My understanding is that Vista will run with the full Aero effects on the
> > current tablets, but not having seen it in action myself, I do not know
> > just
> > how smooth it is. If it is somewhat sluggish then it might give me the
> > wrong
> > impression about a particular UI design. I know I am nitpicking but this
> > is
> > an area that is important to me, so "Vista is Vista, whether you run all
> > the
> > eye candy or not" is not an accurate statement in my particular case.
> >
> > I agree with all your other points, so I might as well go ahead and get
> > the
> > Asus R1F it seems.
> >
> > BitFlipper
> >
> >
> > "Chris H" wrote:
> >
> >> I agree, and you've got no argument from me. 8-) There isn't much we
> >> can
> >> do about what might be coming out Tuesday or a week from Tuesday, or in a
> >> month of Tuesdays, though. The manufacturers simply don't announce their
> >> products very much in advance. If I told you Brand X was going to
> >> release
> >> the machine you should purchase next Thursday, and Brand A, which you
> >> really
> >> liked, came out on Friday, that wouldn't be nice, would it? 8-)
> >>
> >> Unfortunately, I also know nothing about the graphics area. The
> >> manufacturers wrestle with functionality versus heat on Tablets, since
> >> they're meant to be held in your hands. I too would like to see more
> >> advancement in that area, but in reality Vista is Vista, whether you run
> >> all
> >> the eye candy or not, you still have the advanced security features and
> >> improved (training!) inking.
> >> --
> >> Chris H.
> >> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
> >> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> >> http://forums.mobilepcworld.net
> >> Associate Expert
> >> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> >>
> >> "BitFlipper" <BitFlipper@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:B613354A-BC26-4A6F-A9A6-CE43017245B6@microsoft.com...
> >> > It is very true about the "if you wait for something better, you will
> >> > wait
> >> > forever" type circular logic.
> >> >
> >> > But...
> >> >
> >> > Having said that, we are in noticeable transition period where Vista
> >> > just
> >> > came out and new hardware is being designed to take advantage of some
> >> > of
> >> > its
> >> > new features. For instance, new laptops/tablets might have *onboard*,
> >> > integrated flash memory that makes use of ReadyBoost/SuperFetch
> >> > features
> >> > in
> >> > Vista. Also, I'd really like to get something better than the current
> >> > integrated video solutions the current crop of tablets have. I mean,
> >> > when
> >> > are we going to see Intel's 965 on tablets? That one seems to do away
> >> > with a
> >> > lot of the shortcoming of the 945GM (or 950?). The current crop of
> >> > integrated video was just not designed with Vista in mind, which is the
> >> > first
> >> > MS OS that really benefits from better 3D support.
> >> >
> >> > The fact that Toshiba EOLed the M7 means that they will be releasing a
> >> > replacement 14.1" tablet for it sometime in the future. This might
> >> > very
> >> > well
> >> > be the one that will have everything I want, but without knowing for
> >> > sure
> >> > when this will be released, I might as well go with the Asus R1F.
> >> >
> >> > That is, unless someone has some concrete info that it will be released
> >> > soon? That is what I mean by "is this a good time to buy, or should I
> >> > wait
> >> > x
> >> > weeks because something really good is about to be released?"
> >> >
> >> > BitFlipper
> >> >
> >> > "Chris H" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Just my personal opinion, but now is as good a time as any to purchase
> >> >> a
> >> >> Tablet PC with Vista. The manufacturers are pretty closed mouth about
> >> >> "what's next" or if anything is coming down the road in three weeks or
> >> >> whatever. They don't tip their hands much because the market is so
> >> >> competitive. Besides, in "two weeks" something better, less expensive
> >> >> and
> >> >> really what we want will come out anyway. 8-)
> >> >>
> >> >> I would suggest, however, that you take a look at the Vista comparison
> >> >> charts
> >> >> (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...ns/choose.mspx)
> >> >> and determine for yourself before you order your Tablet PC if you
> >> >> want/need
> >> >> the extra items (like Bit Locker) of the Ultimate version over the
> >> >> Business
> >> >> version. Overall, it would probably be less expensive to just order
> >> >> with
> >> >> Vista Ultimate from the start.
> >> >>
> >> >> As to what Tablet PCs are available, I'd suggest you check Tablet PC
> >> >> MVP
> >> >> Terri Stratton's web site: http://thetabletpc.net for the comparison
> >> >> charts. She's got all the latest information listed, and it will
> >> >> probably
> >> >> assist you in narrowing down your choices. BTW - I've got a simple
> >> >> SanDisk
> >> >> 1 GB memory stick which is Ready Boost enabled, and run it on my
> >> >> Toshiba
> >> >> M200. Works neat!
> >> >> --
> >> >> Chris H.
> >> >> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
> >> >> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> >> >> http://forums.mobilepcworld.net
> >> >> Associate Expert
> >> >> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "BitFlipper" <BitFlipper@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:CE5F7944-8A7D-4006-B7EA-FF8DDBE3134E@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > Hi all,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I want to buy my 1st tablet pc, and was looking around at the
> >> >> > options.
> >> >> > My
> >> >> > basic requirement for a tablet are (in order of importance)
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Vista Business (maybe Ultimate),
> >> >> > 14" screen (13.3" might also be fine),
> >> >> > 2GB RAM,
> >> >> > 2GHz Core 2 Duo,
> >> >> > 1440 x 900 res (or close),
> >> >> > Preferably non-integrated graphics, but that seems like a pipe
> >> >> > dream,
> >> >> > Battery life,
> >> >> > Weight.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > So, as you can see, size and weight is not so important to me, as I
> >> >> > don't
> >> >> > plan on using it in a standing position much. This will be used for
> >> >> > drawing
> >> >> > up new UI designs, while commuting on a train, etc. I want to spend
> >> >> > no
> >> >> > more
> >> >> > than $2500 out the door on it.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I was initially looking at the Tecra M7, until I realized that they
> >> >> > have
> >> >> > been EOLed by Toshiba. My next choice is a tricked out Asus R1 (you
> >> >> > can
> >> >> > bump
> >> >> > the CPU from some places like AGear, see
> >> >> > http://store.agearnotebooks.com/asusr1fs.html).
> >> >> >
> >> >> > So, is this a good time to buy a new tablet, or is there some new
> >> >> > models
> >> >> > just around the corner that will cause me to kick myself if I buy
> >> >> > one
> >> >> > right
> >> >> > now? I ask this because currently there seems to be a lull as
> >> >> > vendors
> >> >> > switch
> >> >> > over from XP to Vista, and I know Intel is coming out with new
> >> >> > chipsets
> >> >> > like
> >> >> > the GMA 965 in the near future, integrated flash memory for use with
> >> >> > ReadyBoost, etc etc...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > BTW, a side question: Can I do an online upgrade of Vista Business
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > Vista
> >> >> > Ultimate on an OEM version of Vista?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I would really like some advice from those that have a better idea
> >> >> > of
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > current roadmap wrt to tablets in general.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > BitFlipper
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >>
>
>

I got the specs on my site directly from Asus and it listed firewire. Now,
looking at the site, I don't see firewire listed.
http://usa.asus.com/products.aspx?l1...99&modelmenu=2.
Doing a search on the site for either firewire or IEEE comes up with
nothing.

I haven't looked, but have you checked http://alltp.com? The fact that they
let you try a machine before finalizing the purchase is a big plus to a lot
of people.

I definitely agree about the upgrade to a 7200rpm drive. That speeds data
retrieval up considerably.
--
Terri Stratton
Microsoft Featured Community
http://thetabletpc.net
Forums - http://forums.mobilepcworld.net
Microsoft Windows MVP- Tablet PC

"BitFlipper" <BitFlipper@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:39434B85-496E-4510-AB7C-4EC3E93E577C@microsoft.com...
> Thanks for the info! This is very re-assuring indeed. I think I am going
> to
> order the Asus R1F.
>
> Right now it seems a good place to get it is at www.btotech.com. They
> allow
> me to customize it (bump the CPU to 2GHz w 4MB cache, the HD to 100GB at
> 7200rpm) and their prices seem pretty good (they are in NY, I am in CA).
> Of
> course I am always interested to hear in better alternatives...
>
> BitFlipper
>
> "terri" wrote:
>
>> I'm running it complete with Aero on a couple of Lenovo x60 Tablets as
>> well
>> as Gateway. One of the Lenovos is an upgrade from XP and the others are
>> clean installs.
>>
>> No sluggishness on any of them. I'll be the first to admit that I don't
>> do
>> any coding or testing like you're describing, though, so your experiences
>> could be different.
>>
>> I have also used the Asus and fell in love with it immediately.
>>
>> As for graphics capability, my Ferrari 1000 and the Lenovos and Asus all
>> had
>> similar ratings, between 3 and 3.1. Not great, but adequate. I don't
>> like
>> the rating system since it uses only the lowest rating, but it's what we
>> have.
>> --
>> Terri Stratton
>> Microsoft Featured Community
>> http://thetabletpc.net
>> Forums - http://forums.mobilepcworld.net
>> Microsoft Windows MVP- Tablet PC
>>
>> "BitFlipper" <BitFlipper@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:0EEB6747-212F-484B-B8C7-9BC183D7C02C@microsoft.com...
>> >I think being able to run Vista and get the full Aero experience is more
>> > important to me than most other people, simply because I will be using
>> > the
>> > tablet to try out and demo new UI designs (amongst other things). As
>> > such,
>> > it would be good to be able to get the full experience.
>> >
>> > My understanding is that Vista will run with the full Aero effects on
>> > the
>> > current tablets, but not having seen it in action myself, I do not know
>> > just
>> > how smooth it is. If it is somewhat sluggish then it might give me the
>> > wrong
>> > impression about a particular UI design. I know I am nitpicking but
>> > this
>> > is
>> > an area that is important to me, so "Vista is Vista, whether you run
>> > all
>> > the
>> > eye candy or not" is not an accurate statement in my particular case.
>> >
>> > I agree with all your other points, so I might as well go ahead and get
>> > the
>> > Asus R1F it seems.
>> >
>> > BitFlipper
>> >
>> >
>> > "Chris H" wrote:
>> >
>> >> I agree, and you've got no argument from me. 8-) There isn't much we
>> >> can
>> >> do about what might be coming out Tuesday or a week from Tuesday, or
>> >> in a
>> >> month of Tuesdays, though. The manufacturers simply don't announce
>> >> their
>> >> products very much in advance. If I told you Brand X was going to
>> >> release
>> >> the machine you should purchase next Thursday, and Brand A, which you
>> >> really
>> >> liked, came out on Friday, that wouldn't be nice, would it? 8-)
>> >>
>> >> Unfortunately, I also know nothing about the graphics area. The
>> >> manufacturers wrestle with functionality versus heat on Tablets, since
>> >> they're meant to be held in your hands. I too would like to see more
>> >> advancement in that area, but in reality Vista is Vista, whether you
>> >> run
>> >> all
>> >> the eye candy or not, you still have the advanced security features
>> >> and
>> >> improved (training!) inking.
>> >> --
>> >> Chris H.
>> >> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
>> >> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
>> >> http://forums.mobilepcworld.net
>> >> Associate Expert
>> >> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>> >>
>> >> "BitFlipper" <BitFlipper@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:B613354A-BC26-4A6F-A9A6-CE43017245B6@microsoft.com...
>> >> > It is very true about the "if you wait for something better, you
>> >> > will
>> >> > wait
>> >> > forever" type circular logic.
>> >> >
>> >> > But...
>> >> >
>> >> > Having said that, we are in noticeable transition period where Vista
>> >> > just
>> >> > came out and new hardware is being designed to take advantage of
>> >> > some
>> >> > of
>> >> > its
>> >> > new features. For instance, new laptops/tablets might have
>> >> > *onboard*,
>> >> > integrated flash memory that makes use of ReadyBoost/SuperFetch
>> >> > features
>> >> > in
>> >> > Vista. Also, I'd really like to get something better than the
>> >> > current
>> >> > integrated video solutions the current crop of tablets have. I
>> >> > mean,
>> >> > when
>> >> > are we going to see Intel's 965 on tablets? That one seems to do
>> >> > away
>> >> > with a
>> >> > lot of the shortcoming of the 945GM (or 950?). The current crop of
>> >> > integrated video was just not designed with Vista in mind, which is
>> >> > the
>> >> > first
>> >> > MS OS that really benefits from better 3D support.
>> >> >
>> >> > The fact that Toshiba EOLed the M7 means that they will be releasing
>> >> > a
>> >> > replacement 14.1" tablet for it sometime in the future. This might
>> >> > very
>> >> > well
>> >> > be the one that will have everything I want, but without knowing for
>> >> > sure
>> >> > when this will be released, I might as well go with the Asus R1F.
>> >> >
>> >> > That is, unless someone has some concrete info that it will be
>> >> > released
>> >> > soon? That is what I mean by "is this a good time to buy, or should
>> >> > I
>> >> > wait
>> >> > x
>> >> > weeks because something really good is about to be released?"
>> >> >
>> >> > BitFlipper
>> >> >
>> >> > "Chris H" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Just my personal opinion, but now is as good a time as any to
>> >> >> purchase
>> >> >> a
>> >> >> Tablet PC with Vista. The manufacturers are pretty closed mouth
>> >> >> about
>> >> >> "what's next" or if anything is coming down the road in three weeks
>> >> >> or
>> >> >> whatever. They don't tip their hands much because the market is so
>> >> >> competitive. Besides, in "two weeks" something better, less
>> >> >> expensive
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> really what we want will come out anyway. 8-)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I would suggest, however, that you take a look at the Vista
>> >> >> comparison
>> >> >> charts
>> >> >> (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...ns/choose.mspx)
>> >> >> and determine for yourself before you order your Tablet PC if you
>> >> >> want/need
>> >> >> the extra items (like Bit Locker) of the Ultimate version over the
>> >> >> Business
>> >> >> version. Overall, it would probably be less expensive to just
>> >> >> order
>> >> >> with
>> >> >> Vista Ultimate from the start.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> As to what Tablet PCs are available, I'd suggest you check Tablet
>> >> >> PC
>> >> >> MVP
>> >> >> Terri Stratton's web site: http://thetabletpc.net for the
>> >> >> comparison
>> >> >> charts. She's got all the latest information listed, and it will
>> >> >> probably
>> >> >> assist you in narrowing down your choices. BTW - I've got a simple
>> >> >> SanDisk
>> >> >> 1 GB memory stick which is Ready Boost enabled, and run it on my
>> >> >> Toshiba
>> >> >> M200. Works neat!
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Chris H.
>> >> >> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
>> >> >> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
>> >> >> http://forums.mobilepcworld.net
>> >> >> Associate Expert
>> >> >> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "BitFlipper" <BitFlipper@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> >> >> message
>> >> >> news:CE5F7944-8A7D-4006-B7EA-FF8DDBE3134E@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> > Hi all,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I want to buy my 1st tablet pc, and was looking around at the
>> >> >> > options.
>> >> >> > My
>> >> >> > basic requirement for a tablet are (in order of importance)
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Vista Business (maybe Ultimate),
>> >> >> > 14" screen (13.3" might also be fine),
>> >> >> > 2GB RAM,
>> >> >> > 2GHz Core 2 Duo,
>> >> >> > 1440 x 900 res (or close),
>> >> >> > Preferably non-integrated graphics, but that seems like a pipe
>> >> >> > dream,
>> >> >> > Battery life,
>> >> >> > Weight.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > So, as you can see, size and weight is not so important to me, as
>> >> >> > I
>> >> >> > don't
>> >> >> > plan on using it in a standing position much. This will be used
>> >> >> > for
>> >> >> > drawing
>> >> >> > up new UI designs, while commuting on a train, etc. I want to
>> >> >> > spend
>> >> >> > no
>> >> >> > more
>> >> >> > than $2500 out the door on it.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I was initially looking at the Tecra M7, until I realized that
>> >> >> > they
>> >> >> > have
>> >> >> > been EOLed by Toshiba. My next choice is a tricked out Asus R1
>> >> >> > (you
>> >> >> > can
>> >> >> > bump
>> >> >> > the CPU from some places like AGear, see
>> >> >> > http://store.agearnotebooks.com/asusr1fs.html).
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > So, is this a good time to buy a new tablet, or is there some new
>> >> >> > models
>> >> >> > just around the corner that will cause me to kick myself if I buy
>> >> >> > one
>> >> >> > right
>> >> >> > now? I ask this because currently there seems to be a lull as
>> >> >> > vendors
>> >> >> > switch
>> >> >> > over from XP to Vista, and I know Intel is coming out with new
>> >> >> > chipsets
>> >> >> > like
>> >> >> > the GMA 965 in the near future, integrated flash memory for use
>> >> >> > with
>> >> >> > ReadyBoost, etc etc...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > BTW, a side question: Can I do an online upgrade of Vista
>> >> >> > Business
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> > Vista
>> >> >> > Ultimate on an OEM version of Vista?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I would really like some advice from those that have a better
>> >> >> > idea
>> >> >> > of
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > current roadmap wrt to tablets in general.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > BitFlipper
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >>
>>
>>

BitFlipper,

why do you want a tablet anyway ?
exactly what tablet features are you going to use that a More
Powerful, Longer Life Battery laptop can't do ?

Do I really need to justify my need for a tablet? We are all grownups here...

But just to give you one good reason anyway...

I do UI designs and I often want to draw out ideas quickly as they pop into
my head. Just about every other software tool I have used on non-tablet PCs
just get in the way for this particular use (mainly because of the clunky
mouse). I find my tiny Pocket PC to be more useful than my full-blown laptop
in this regard, and often wish I had a laptop with a touch screen. So a
tablet is a perfect fit. Is that a good enough reason?

I also have other reasons, but once again, I am here to get info to make the
best informed purchase of a tablet pc, not to explain why I need to do it in
the first place.

BitFlipper

"EMRhelp.org" wrote:

> BitFlipper,
>
> why do you want a tablet anyway ?
> exactly what tablet features are you going to use that a More
> Powerful, Longer Life Battery laptop can't do ?
>
>
>
>
>

terri wrote:
> I got the specs on my site directly from Asus and it listed firewire.
> Now, looking at the site, I don't see firewire listed.
> http://usa.asus.com/products.aspx?l1...99&modelmenu=2.
> Doing a search on the site for either firewire or IEEE comes up with
> nothing.

My R1F, which I bought in the UK, doesn't have FireWire. HTH.

Yea, that is pretty much the conclusion I got to, that it doesn't have
firewire. It is weird that some sites display so prominently that it does
have firewire. I even called and asked one seller and they insisted that it
had firewire. Which is why I got so confused about the whole thing.

Even so, I am still getting it...(already placed an order from xoticpc.com)

BitFlipper


"Aidan O'Hare" wrote:

> terri wrote:
> > I got the specs on my site directly from Asus and it listed firewire.
> > Now, looking at the site, I don't see firewire listed.
> > http://usa.asus.com/products.aspx?l1...99&modelmenu=2.
> > Doing a search on the site for either firewire or IEEE comes up with
> > nothing.
>
> My R1F, which I bought in the UK, doesn't have FireWire. HTH.
>

Congratulations! I think you'll like it. Let us know once you get it.
--
Terri Stratton
Microsoft Featured Community
http://thetabletpc.net
Forums - http://forums.mobilepcworld.net
Microsoft Windows MVP- Tablet PC

"BitFlipper" <BitFlipper@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:7DED62CF-8386-4250-9668-A07F87EF89D5@microsoft.com...
> Yea, that is pretty much the conclusion I got to, that it doesn't have
> firewire. It is weird that some sites display so prominently that it does
> have firewire. I even called and asked one seller and they insisted that
> it
> had firewire. Which is why I got so confused about the whole thing.
>
> Even so, I am still getting it...(already placed an order from
> xoticpc.com)
>
> BitFlipper
>
>
> "Aidan O'Hare" wrote:
>
>> terri wrote:
>> > I got the specs on my site directly from Asus and it listed firewire.
>> > Now, looking at the site, I don't see firewire listed.
>> > http://usa.asus.com/products.aspx?l1...99&modelmenu=2.
>> > Doing a search on the site for either firewire or IEEE comes up with
>> > nothing.
>>
>> My R1F, which I bought in the UK, doesn't have FireWire. HTH.
>>