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Old 08-16-2005, 08:28 AM
Bart Perrier
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Tablet PC Input Panel

Our Physicians are using the Motion M1400 Tablet PCs in our ERs. The nature
of this environment is very vunerable to internet mishaps, so the tablets,
and other workstations in this area, are highly managed.

The problem I am having is that I cannot figure out how to give the user a
shortcut to the TIP. We are using the FlexDocks and docking gives you a
keyboard within 1 second but for quick notes, the Physician needs to be able
to occoationally freehand the note. The main application they run is over a
Citrix Session and the tablet is not recognizing the text boxs in this
application as a text field. This does work for local applications but not
in the terminal/citrix applications.

Additionally, my GPOs somehow remove the toolbar containing the link to
launch the TIP. I'm all about removing the GPOs or adding another OU for
Tablets but I am at a loss as to where to turn from here.

Thanks for any help you may be able to offer.

Bart Perrier


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Old 08-16-2005, 08:28 AM
terri
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Re: Tablet PC Input Panel

Hi, Bart,

If you don't need the notes to go directly to the Server or to a specific
file, then you might want to take a look at the Experience Pack's Ink
Desktop. It allows a fast note directly on the desktop of the Tablet.

I have a feeling that isn't what you're asking, but thought I'd toss it out.
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"Bart Perrier" <bart_perrier********.com> wrote in message
news:eg7HPTdnFHA.2916@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Our Physicians are using the Motion M1400 Tablet PCs in our ERs. The
> nature
> of this environment is very vunerable to internet mishaps, so the tablets,
> and other workstations in this area, are highly managed.
>
> The problem I am having is that I cannot figure out how to give the user a
> shortcut to the TIP. We are using the FlexDocks and docking gives you a
> keyboard within 1 second but for quick notes, the Physician needs to be
> able
> to occoationally freehand the note. The main application they run is over
> a
> Citrix Session and the tablet is not recognizing the text boxs in this
> application as a text field. This does work for local applications but not
> in the terminal/citrix applications.
>
> Additionally, my GPOs somehow remove the toolbar containing the link to
> launch the TIP. I'm all about removing the GPOs or adding another OU for
> Tablets but I am at a loss as to where to turn from here.
>
> Thanks for any help you may be able to offer.
>
> Bart Perrier
>
>



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Old 08-16-2005, 08:28 AM
Mickey Segal
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Re: Tablet PC Input Panel

If you hold the pen a bit above the screen and wave it back and forth
horizontally the TIP comes up.

"Bart Perrier" <bart_perrier********.com> wrote in message
news:eg7HPTdnFHA.2916@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> The problem I am having is that I cannot figure out how to give the user a
> shortcut to the TIP.



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Old 08-16-2005, 08:28 AM
Chris H.
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Re: Tablet PC Input Panel

Bart, I've bumped this over to the Tablet Team at Microsoft for more details
about what you need to do. As I recall, there are some basic
inconsistencies with Citrix itself and a multitude of things addressed
through Microsoft's Knowledge Base articles:
http://support.microsoft.com/search/...2&ast=3&mode=a
However, the basic question of GPO and lock-down of the TIP for users is a
solution I've asked about. Will post back when I receive information.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"Bart Perrier" <bart_perrier********.com> wrote in message
news:eg7HPTdnFHA.2916@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Our Physicians are using the Motion M1400 Tablet PCs in our ERs. The
> nature
> of this environment is very vunerable to internet mishaps, so the tablets,
> and other workstations in this area, are highly managed.
>
> The problem I am having is that I cannot figure out how to give the user a
> shortcut to the TIP. We are using the FlexDocks and docking gives you a
> keyboard within 1 second but for quick notes, the Physician needs to be
> able
> to occoationally freehand the note. The main application they run is over
> a
> Citrix Session and the tablet is not recognizing the text boxs in this
> application as a text field. This does work for local applications but not
> in the terminal/citrix applications.
>
> Additionally, my GPOs somehow remove the toolbar containing the link to
> launch the TIP. I'm all about removing the GPOs or adding another OU for
> Tablets but I am at a loss as to where to turn from here.
>
> Thanks for any help you may be able to offer.
>
> Bart Perrier
>
>



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Old 08-16-2005, 08:28 AM
Bart Perrier
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Re: Tablet PC Input Panel

I did find the GPO that was removing the Custom Toolbar; it is now available
but in a different location. The GPO was (here comes the Mack truck)
Users-Admin Templates-Start Menu and Taskbar - Do not display any custom
toolbars.

I will leave this post marked incase you have an update.

Thanks Chris,
Bart


"Chris H." <winxpnews********.com> wrote in message
news:e0UH%235dnFHA.3380@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Bart, I've bumped this over to the Tablet Team at Microsoft for more

details
> about what you need to do. As I recall, there are some basic
> inconsistencies with Citrix itself and a multitude of things addressed
> through Microsoft's Knowledge Base articles:
>

http://support.microsoft.com/search/...2&ast=3&mode=a
> However, the basic question of GPO and lock-down of the TIP for users is a
> solution I've asked about. Will post back when I receive information.
> --
> Chris H.
> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> Associate Expert
> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>
>
> "Bart Perrier" <bart_perrier********.com> wrote in message
> news:eg7HPTdnFHA.2916@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> > Our Physicians are using the Motion M1400 Tablet PCs in our ERs. The
> > nature
> > of this environment is very vunerable to internet mishaps, so the

tablets,
> > and other workstations in this area, are highly managed.
> >
> > The problem I am having is that I cannot figure out how to give the user

a
> > shortcut to the TIP. We are using the FlexDocks and docking gives you a
> > keyboard within 1 second but for quick notes, the Physician needs to be
> > able
> > to occoationally freehand the note. The main application they run is

over
> > a
> > Citrix Session and the tablet is not recognizing the text boxs in this
> > application as a text field. This does work for local applications but

not
> > in the terminal/citrix applications.
> >
> > Additionally, my GPOs somehow remove the toolbar containing the link to
> > launch the TIP. I'm all about removing the GPOs or adding another OU for
> > Tablets but I am at a loss as to where to turn from here.
> >
> > Thanks for any help you may be able to offer.
> >
> > Bart Perrier
> >
> >

>
>



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Old 08-16-2005, 08:28 AM
Chris H.
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Re: Tablet PC Input Panel

You're welcome, Bart. It may be a few days before they bounce back with
information, but I will post whenever I hear something.
--
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Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"Bart Perrier" <bart_perrier********.com> wrote in message
news:OKlBXIenFHA.1088@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>I did find the GPO that was removing the Custom Toolbar; it is now
>available
> but in a different location. The GPO was (here comes the Mack truck)
> Users-Admin Templates-Start Menu and Taskbar - Do not display any custom
> toolbars.
>
> I will leave this post marked incase you have an update.
>
> Thanks Chris,
> Bart
>
>
> "Chris H." <winxpnews********.com> wrote in message
> news:e0UH%235dnFHA.3380@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> Bart, I've bumped this over to the Tablet Team at Microsoft for more

> details
>> about what you need to do. As I recall, there are some basic
>> inconsistencies with Citrix itself and a multitude of things addressed
>> through Microsoft's Knowledge Base articles:
>>

> http://support.microsoft.com/search/...2&ast=3&mode=a
>> However, the basic question of GPO and lock-down of the TIP for users is
>> a
>> solution I've asked about. Will post back when I receive information.
>> --
>> Chris H.
>> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
>> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
>> Associate Expert
>> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>
>>
>> "Bart Perrier" <bart_perrier********.com> wrote in message
>> news:eg7HPTdnFHA.2916@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> > Our Physicians are using the Motion M1400 Tablet PCs in our ERs. The
>> > nature
>> > of this environment is very vunerable to internet mishaps, so the

> tablets,
>> > and other workstations in this area, are highly managed.
>> >
>> > The problem I am having is that I cannot figure out how to give the
>> > user

> a
>> > shortcut to the TIP. We are using the FlexDocks and docking gives you a
>> > keyboard within 1 second but for quick notes, the Physician needs to be
>> > able
>> > to occoationally freehand the note. The main application they run is

> over
>> > a
>> > Citrix Session and the tablet is not recognizing the text boxs in this
>> > application as a text field. This does work for local applications but

> not
>> > in the terminal/citrix applications.
>> >
>> > Additionally, my GPOs somehow remove the toolbar containing the link to
>> > launch the TIP. I'm all about removing the GPOs or adding another OU
>> > for
>> > Tablets but I am at a loss as to where to turn from here.
>> >
>> > Thanks for any help you may be able to offer.
>> >
>> > Bart Perrier
>> >
>> >

>>
>>

>
>



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Old 08-16-2005, 08:28 AM
Charlie Russel - MVP
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Re: Tablet PC Input Panel

So, if I read your original post correctly, you'll be able to move Tablets
into an OU where you can NOT push down this GPO, correct? (and you're right,
that's like ringing a doorbell with a bazooka.)

--
Please, all replies to the newsgroup.
======================
Charlie.
http://www.msmvps.com/xperts64/


Bart Perrier wrote:
> I did find the GPO that was removing the Custom Toolbar; it is now
> available but in a different location. The GPO was (here comes the
> Mack truck) Users-Admin Templates-Start Menu and Taskbar - Do not
> display any custom toolbars.
>
> I will leave this post marked incase you have an update.
>
> Thanks Chris,
> Bart
>
>
> "Chris H." <winxpnews********.com> wrote in message
> news:e0UH%235dnFHA.3380@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> Bart, I've bumped this over to the Tablet Team at Microsoft for more
>> details about what you need to do. As I recall, there are some basic
>> inconsistencies with Citrix itself and a multitude of things
>> addressed through Microsoft's Knowledge Base articles:
>>

> http://support.microsoft.com/search/...2&ast=3&mode=a
>> However, the basic question of GPO and lock-down of the TIP for
>> users is a solution I've asked about. Will post back when I receive
>> information. --
>> Chris H.
>> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
>> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
>> Associate Expert
>> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>
>>
>> "Bart Perrier" <bart_perrier********.com> wrote in message
>> news:eg7HPTdnFHA.2916@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>> Our Physicians are using the Motion M1400 Tablet PCs in our ERs. The
>>> nature
>>> of this environment is very vunerable to internet mishaps, so the
>>> tablets, and other workstations in this area, are highly managed.
>>>
>>> The problem I am having is that I cannot figure out how to give the
>>> user a shortcut to the TIP. We are using the FlexDocks and docking
>>> gives you a keyboard within 1 second but for quick notes, the
>>> Physician needs to be able
>>> to occoationally freehand the note. The main application they run
>>> is over a
>>> Citrix Session and the tablet is not recognizing the text boxs in
>>> this application as a text field. This does work for local
>>> applications but not in the terminal/citrix applications.
>>>
>>> Additionally, my GPOs somehow remove the toolbar containing the
>>> link to launch the TIP. I'm all about removing the GPOs or adding
>>> another OU for Tablets but I am at a loss as to where to turn from
>>> here.
>>>
>>> Thanks for any help you may be able to offer.
>>>
>>> Bart Perrier



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Old 08-16-2005, 08:28 AM
Bart Perrier
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Re: Tablet PC Input Panel

That is exactly right. For now we have disabled this Policy for the whole OU
but that can of course open up other Custom Toolbars which could in turn
encourage random acts of clicking the Install Now button (aka Yes Button for
Security Warnings).

Let's face it; the ERs aren't always busy, just when I'm there. =]

Bart


"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
news:%23TPLnNgnFHA.3936@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> So, if I read your original post correctly, you'll be able to move Tablets
> into an OU where you can NOT push down this GPO, correct? (and you're

right,
> that's like ringing a doorbell with a bazooka.)
>
> --
> Please, all replies to the newsgroup.
> ======================
> Charlie.
> http://www.msmvps.com/xperts64/
>
>
> Bart Perrier wrote:
> > I did find the GPO that was removing the Custom Toolbar; it is now
> > available but in a different location. The GPO was (here comes the
> > Mack truck) Users-Admin Templates-Start Menu and Taskbar - Do not
> > display any custom toolbars.
> >
> > I will leave this post marked incase you have an update.
> >
> > Thanks Chris,
> > Bart
> >
> >
> > "Chris H." <winxpnews********.com> wrote in message
> > news:e0UH%235dnFHA.3380@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> >> Bart, I've bumped this over to the Tablet Team at Microsoft for more
> >> details about what you need to do. As I recall, there are some basic
> >> inconsistencies with Citrix itself and a multitude of things
> >> addressed through Microsoft's Knowledge Base articles:
> >>

> >

http://support.microsoft.com/search/...2&ast=3&mode=a
> >> However, the basic question of GPO and lock-down of the TIP for
> >> users is a solution I've asked about. Will post back when I receive
> >> information. --
> >> Chris H.
> >> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
> >> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> >> Associate Expert
> >> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> >>
> >>
> >> "Bart Perrier" <bart_perrier********.com> wrote in message
> >> news:eg7HPTdnFHA.2916@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> >>> Our Physicians are using the Motion M1400 Tablet PCs in our ERs. The
> >>> nature
> >>> of this environment is very vunerable to internet mishaps, so the
> >>> tablets, and other workstations in this area, are highly managed.
> >>>
> >>> The problem I am having is that I cannot figure out how to give the
> >>> user a shortcut to the TIP. We are using the FlexDocks and docking
> >>> gives you a keyboard within 1 second but for quick notes, the
> >>> Physician needs to be able
> >>> to occoationally freehand the note. The main application they run
> >>> is over a
> >>> Citrix Session and the tablet is not recognizing the text boxs in
> >>> this application as a text field. This does work for local
> >>> applications but not in the terminal/citrix applications.
> >>>
> >>> Additionally, my GPOs somehow remove the toolbar containing the
> >>> link to launch the TIP. I'm all about removing the GPOs or adding
> >>> another OU for Tablets but I am at a loss as to where to turn from
> >>> here.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for any help you may be able to offer.
> >>>
> >>> Bart Perrier

>
>



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Old 08-16-2005, 08:28 AM
Brian Whittaker
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RE: Tablet PC Input Panel

Good Morning,
I just bought my tablet yesterday, is it normal for the keyboard input to
appear during the entire boot and on the welcome screen?
Thanks, Brian
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Chris H.
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Re: Tablet PC Input Panel

Yes. If your account has a password, or you would want to boot with the
Administrator account, you will need it available.
--
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Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"Brian Whittaker" <Brian Whittaker@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:8E70448A-A32E-4999-AC76-7A205A389510@microsoft.com...
> Good Morning,
> I just bought my tablet yesterday, is it normal for the keyboard input to
> appear during the entire boot and on the welcome screen?
> Thanks, Brian



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Old 08-16-2005, 08:29 AM
Charlie Russel - MVP
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Re: Tablet PC Input Panel

Minor surgery is surgery that happens to someone else!

Bart Perrier wrote:
> That is exactly right. For now we have disabled this Policy for the
> whole OU but that can of course open up other Custom Toolbars which
> could in turn encourage random acts of clicking the Install Now
> button (aka Yes Button for Security Warnings).
>
> Let's face it; the ERs aren't always busy, just when I'm there. =]
>
> Bart
>
>
> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in
> message news:%23TPLnNgnFHA.3936@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> So, if I read your original post correctly, you'll be able to move
>> Tablets into an OU where you can NOT push down this GPO, correct?
>> (and you're right, that's like ringing a doorbell with a bazooka.)
>>
>> --
>> Please, all replies to the newsgroup.
>> ======================
>> Charlie.
>> http://www.msmvps.com/xperts64/
>>
>>
>> Bart Perrier wrote:
>>> I did find the GPO that was removing the Custom Toolbar; it is now
>>> available but in a different location. The GPO was (here comes the
>>> Mack truck) Users-Admin Templates-Start Menu and Taskbar - Do not
>>> display any custom toolbars.
>>>
>>> I will leave this post marked incase you have an update.
>>>
>>> Thanks Chris,
>>> Bart
>>>
>>>
>>> "Chris H." <winxpnews********.com> wrote in message
>>> news:e0UH%235dnFHA.3380@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>>> Bart, I've bumped this over to the Tablet Team at Microsoft for
>>>> more details about what you need to do. As I recall, there are
>>>> some basic inconsistencies with Citrix itself and a multitude of
>>>> things addressed through Microsoft's Knowledge Base articles:
>>>>
>>>

> http://support.microsoft.com/search/...2&ast=3&mode=a
>>>> However, the basic question of GPO and lock-down of the TIP for
>>>> users is a solution I've asked about. Will post back when I
>>>> receive information. --
>>>> Chris H.
>>>> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
>>>> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
>>>> Associate Expert
>>>> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Bart Perrier" <bart_perrier********.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:eg7HPTdnFHA.2916@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Our Physicians are using the Motion M1400 Tablet PCs in our ERs.
>>>>> The nature
>>>>> of this environment is very vunerable to internet mishaps, so the
>>>>> tablets, and other workstations in this area, are highly managed.
>>>>>
>>>>> The problem I am having is that I cannot figure out how to give
>>>>> the user a shortcut to the TIP. We are using the FlexDocks and
>>>>> docking gives you a keyboard within 1 second but for quick notes,
>>>>> the Physician needs to be able
>>>>> to occoationally freehand the note. The main application they run
>>>>> is over a
>>>>> Citrix Session and the tablet is not recognizing the text boxs in
>>>>> this application as a text field. This does work for local
>>>>> applications but not in the terminal/citrix applications.
>>>>>
>>>>> Additionally, my GPOs somehow remove the toolbar containing the
>>>>> link to launch the TIP. I'm all about removing the GPOs or adding
>>>>> another OU for Tablets but I am at a loss as to where to turn from
>>>>> here.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for any help you may be able to offer.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bart Perrier


--
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