I have a Windows XP Tablet with 2 GB of RAM. When I try to hibernate, I get
the following message:

"Insufficient System Resources Exist to Complete the API."

Anyone know what I can do to solve this?

On 7/13/2005 9:25:03 PM, =?Utf-8?B?c3Rhcl93YXJ6?= wrote:
>I have a Windows XP Tablet with 2 GB of RAM. When I try to hibernate, I get
>the following message:
>
>"Insufficient System Resources Exist to Complete the API."
>
>Anyone know what I can do to solve this?
>

http://support.microsoft.com/Default.aspx?kbid=330909

This evidently fixed it "pre sp2", but the problem arose again after SP2 for
some people. And the link here to get the fix doesn't work, so I can't try it
out to see if it would "regress" the files in question and get around the
problem.

Fortunately my tablet doesn't exhibit this (at the "low" end wtih only 1GB of
RAM). But there are some others who are seeing this problem again now - check
out
http://www.tabletpcbuzz.com/forum/to...ation,resource

Hopefully there will be a resolution soon.


--
John D [MVP - Tablet PC]

Microsoft is tracking down what's wrong with the link in the KB article John
posted, and I'll post as soon as I hear any information on it. I would
suggest for the time being either close out your programs and shut down
normally, or if you're on a/c power, just use Standby.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"star_warz" <star_warz@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:9E935C3E-7FE2-4A98-A456-4F760E6C2664@microsoft.com...
>I have a Windows XP Tablet with 2 GB of RAM. When I try to hibernate, I
>get
> the following message:
>
> "Insufficient System Resources Exist to Complete the API."
>
> Anyone know what I can do to solve this?

"JDThree [MVP]" wrote:

> http://support.microsoft.com/Default.aspx?kbid=330909
>
> This evidently fixed it "pre sp2", but the problem arose again after SP2 for
> some people. And the link here to get the fix doesn't work, so I can't try it
> out to see if it would "regress" the files in question and get around the
> problem.
>
> Fortunately my tablet doesn't exhibit this (at the "low" end wtih only 1GB of
> RAM). But there are some others who are seeing this problem again now - check
> out
> http://www.tabletpcbuzz.com/forum/to...ation,resource
>
> Hopefully there will be a resolution soon.
>
> --
> John D [MVP - Tablet PC]
>

John,
thank you for your answer. Please do a search for "insufficient system
resources hibernate" in MSDN Managed Newsgroups. You will see that the issue
is quite wide spread. It seems common with any PC with more than 1 GB of
memory.

The Kb 330909 is wrong in that it does not have anything to do with
stressing the PC. It occurs even in idle situations. However, the problem
only occurs after having used large memory consumers for a while, such as
VMWare or Visual Studio 2005. It seems like you actually have to use the
memory above 1 GB to get the effect.

Please let someone in Microsoft focus on solving this issue, rather than
solving the bad link in the KB. The KB is obsolete anyway as it is pre SP1.

Thanks for your attention,

Pieter

The situation with the broken link on the web site has been reported by
several of us, without action. The Knowledge Base article was updated July
8, 2005, and contains current information as far as I can determine.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"Pieter van Kampen" <vankampenp@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
news:E9EC950A-3A65-4246-BEA6-D1394751ECCC@microsoft.com...
>
>
> "JDThree [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> http://support.microsoft.com/Default.aspx?kbid=330909
>>
>> This evidently fixed it "pre sp2", but the problem arose again after SP2
>> for
>> some people. And the link here to get the fix doesn't work, so I can't
>> try it
>> out to see if it would "regress" the files in question and get around the
>> problem.
>>
>> Fortunately my tablet doesn't exhibit this (at the "low" end wtih only
>> 1GB of
>> RAM). But there are some others who are seeing this problem again now -
>> check
>> out
>> http://www.tabletpcbuzz.com/forum/to...ation,resource
>>
>> Hopefully there will be a resolution soon.
>>
>> --
>> John D [MVP - Tablet PC]
>>
>
> John,
> thank you for your answer. Please do a search for "insufficient system
> resources hibernate" in MSDN Managed Newsgroups. You will see that the
> issue
> is quite wide spread. It seems common with any PC with more than 1 GB of
> memory.
>
> The Kb 330909 is wrong in that it does not have anything to do with
> stressing the PC. It occurs even in idle situations. However, the problem
> only occurs after having used large memory consumers for a while, such as
> VMWare or Visual Studio 2005. It seems like you actually have to use the
> memory above 1 GB to get the effect.
>
> Please let someone in Microsoft focus on solving this issue, rather than
> solving the bad link in the KB. The KB is obsolete anyway as it is pre
> SP1.
>
> Thanks for your attention,
>
> Pieter
>
>
>

BTW - You can try the patch here:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"Chris H." <winxpnews********.com> wrote in message
news:udc3j$4lFHA.2380@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> The situation with the broken link on the web site has been reported by
> several of us, without action. The Knowledge Base article was updated
> July 8, 2005, and contains current information as far as I can determine.
> --
> Chris H.
> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> Associate Expert
> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>
>
> "Pieter van Kampen" <vankampenp@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
> news:E9EC950A-3A65-4246-BEA6-D1394751ECCC@microsoft.com...
>>
>>
>> "JDThree [MVP]" wrote:
>>
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/Default.aspx?kbid=330909
>>>
>>> This evidently fixed it "pre sp2", but the problem arose again after SP2
>>> for
>>> some people. And the link here to get the fix doesn't work, so I can't
>>> try it
>>> out to see if it would "regress" the files in question and get around
>>> the
>>> problem.
>>>
>>> Fortunately my tablet doesn't exhibit this (at the "low" end wtih only
>>> 1GB of
>>> RAM). But there are some others who are seeing this problem again now -
>>> check
>>> out
>>> http://www.tabletpcbuzz.com/forum/to...ation,resource
>>>
>>> Hopefully there will be a resolution soon.
>>>
>>> --
>>> John D [MVP - Tablet PC]
>>>
>>
>> John,
>> thank you for your answer. Please do a search for "insufficient system
>> resources hibernate" in MSDN Managed Newsgroups. You will see that the
>> issue
>> is quite wide spread. It seems common with any PC with more than 1 GB of
>> memory.
>>
>> The Kb 330909 is wrong in that it does not have anything to do with
>> stressing the PC. It occurs even in idle situations. However, the problem
>> only occurs after having used large memory consumers for a while, such as
>> VMWare or Visual Studio 2005. It seems like you actually have to use the
>> memory above 1 GB to get the effect.
>>
>> Please let someone in Microsoft focus on solving this issue, rather than
>> solving the bad link in the KB. The KB is obsolete anyway as it is pre
>> SP1.
>>
>> Thanks for your attention,
>>
>> Pieter
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Q330909 Setup Error
Setup has detected that the Service Pack version of the system installed is
newer than the update you are applying to it.

You can only install this update on a computer with no Service Packs
installed.

My points are:
a) this service pack does not apply to XP SP2, but the problem is still
present
b) the SP says the problem occurs under high load, but it also occurs under
no load at all
c) the problem does not occur directly after booting. After having used the
system for a while (less than 1 day) but with high load and high memory
usage, this problem occurs always.
d) according to the posts on various forums, it occurs with many people.
Probably everyone with more than 1 GB of memory who is actually using it and
using hibernate.


The KB also talks about physical RAM fragmentation. Is there any way to
solve this or to cure this before hibernating?

Thanks for your attention.

Pieter

Pieter, I'm communicating with Microsoft on this one. Last I heard was they
were forwarding the issue to someone specific who has knowledge of it. That
was Tuesday, and I haven't heard anything back yet. For what it is worth,
I'm running 1 gig of RAM on this particular machine, and haven't had the
problem.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"Pieter van Kampen" <vankampenp@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
news:D4ECA493-7486-4126-87F7-86112022F20E@microsoft.com...
> Q330909 Setup Error
> Setup has detected that the Service Pack version of the system installed
> is
> newer than the update you are applying to it.
>
> You can only install this update on a computer with no Service Packs
> installed.
>
> My points are:
> a) this service pack does not apply to XP SP2, but the problem is still
> present
> b) the SP says the problem occurs under high load, but it also occurs
> under
> no load at all
> c) the problem does not occur directly after booting. After having used
> the
> system for a while (less than 1 day) but with high load and high memory
> usage, this problem occurs always.
> d) according to the posts on various forums, it occurs with many people.
> Probably everyone with more than 1 GB of memory who is actually using it
> and
> using hibernate.
>
>
> The KB also talks about physical RAM fragmentation. Is there any way to
> solve this or to cure this before hibernating?
>
> Thanks for your attention.
>
> Pieter

On 8/3/2005 8:28:10 AM, "Chris H." wrote:
>Pieter, I'm communicating with Microsoft on this one. Last I heard was they
>were forwarding the issue to someone specific who has knowledge of it. That
>was Tuesday, and I haven't heard anything back yet. For what it is worth,
>I'm running 1 gig of RAM on this particular machine, and haven't had the
>problem.
>--
>Chris H.
>Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
>Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
>Associate Expert
>Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone

Same here - I've heard about many who do, but haven't experienced it myself
yet...


--
John D [MVP - Tablet PC]

I must correct my summary. Other users have reported that hibernate worked
well with 1GB, and they got the here mentioned problem after upgrading to 2
GB internal memory. So please get your manager to give you an upgrade :-)

"Chris H." wrote:

> Pieter, I'm communicating with Microsoft on this one. Last I heard was they
> were forwarding the issue to someone specific who has knowledge of it. That
> was Tuesday, and I haven't heard anything back yet. For what it is worth,
> I'm running 1 gig of RAM on this particular machine, and haven't had the
> problem.
> --
> Chris H.
> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> Associate Expert
> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>
>
> "Pieter van Kampen" <vankampenp@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
> news:D4ECA493-7486-4126-87F7-86112022F20E@microsoft.com...
> > Q330909 Setup Error
> > Setup has detected that the Service Pack version of the system installed
> > is
> > newer than the update you are applying to it.
> >
> > You can only install this update on a computer with no Service Packs
> > installed.
> >
> > My points are:
> > a) this service pack does not apply to XP SP2, but the problem is still
> > present
> > b) the SP says the problem occurs under high load, but it also occurs
> > under
> > no load at all
> > c) the problem does not occur directly after booting. After having used
> > the
> > system for a while (less than 1 day) but with high load and high memory
> > usage, this problem occurs always.
> > d) according to the posts on various forums, it occurs with many people.
> > Probably everyone with more than 1 GB of memory who is actually using it
> > and
> > using hibernate.
> >
> >
> > The KB also talks about physical RAM fragmentation. Is there any way to
> > solve this or to cure this before hibernating?
> >
> > Thanks for your attention.
> >
> > Pieter
>
>
>

My manager? That would be my wife, I guess. I don't work for Microsoft,
Pieter, however if you'd put in a good word with my wife, it would be
appreciated. For some reason she says I'm already into quarter three of
2017 for my "computer toys" expenditures.

As for the "fix" from Microsoft, I'm pushing as many buttons as I can and so
are a few other MVPs.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"Pieter van Kampen" <vankampenp@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
news:2867EA43-CC7F-46B1-AB0C-ACB2715C0781@microsoft.com...
>I must correct my summary. Other users have reported that hibernate worked
> well with 1GB, and they got the here mentioned problem after upgrading to
> 2
> GB internal memory. So please get your manager to give you an upgrade :-)
>
> "Chris H." wrote:
>
>> Pieter, I'm communicating with Microsoft on this one. Last I heard was
>> they
>> were forwarding the issue to someone specific who has knowledge of it.
>> That
>> was Tuesday, and I haven't heard anything back yet. For what it is
>> worth,
>> I'm running 1 gig of RAM on this particular machine, and haven't had the
>> problem.
>> --
>> Chris H.
>> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
>> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
>> Associate Expert
>> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>
>>
>> "Pieter van Kampen" <vankampenp@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
>> news:D4ECA493-7486-4126-87F7-86112022F20E@microsoft.com...
>> > Q330909 Setup Error
>> > Setup has detected that the Service Pack version of the system
>> > installed
>> > is
>> > newer than the update you are applying to it.
>> >
>> > You can only install this update on a computer with no Service Packs
>> > installed.
>> >
>> > My points are:
>> > a) this service pack does not apply to XP SP2, but the problem is still
>> > present
>> > b) the SP says the problem occurs under high load, but it also occurs
>> > under
>> > no load at all
>> > c) the problem does not occur directly after booting. After having used
>> > the
>> > system for a while (less than 1 day) but with high load and high memory
>> > usage, this problem occurs always.
>> > d) according to the posts on various forums, it occurs with many
>> > people.
>> > Probably everyone with more than 1 GB of memory who is actually using
>> > it
>> > and
>> > using hibernate.
>> >
>> >
>> > The KB also talks about physical RAM fragmentation. Is there any way to
>> > solve this or to cure this before hibernating?
>> >
>> > Thanks for your attention.
>> >
>> > Pieter
>>
>>
>>

Chris,
offcourse I'd be prepared to give as much good words to your wife as you
would like, if not more, but unfortunately that is not to be recommended - in
view of the current hibernate problems with large memory that is.

Thanks for your support.

Pieter

"Chris H." wrote:

> My manager? That would be my wife, I guess. I don't work for Microsoft,
> Pieter, however if you'd put in a good word with my wife, it would be
> appreciated. For some reason she says I'm already into quarter three of
> 2017 for my "computer toys" expenditures.
>
> As for the "fix" from Microsoft, I'm pushing as many buttons as I can and so
> are a few other MVPs.
> --
> Chris H.
> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> Associate Expert
> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>
>
> "Pieter van Kampen" <vankampenp@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
> news:2867EA43-CC7F-46B1-AB0C-ACB2715C0781@microsoft.com...
> >I must correct my summary. Other users have reported that hibernate worked
> > well with 1GB, and they got the here mentioned problem after upgrading to
> > 2
> > GB internal memory. So please get your manager to give you an upgrade :-)
> >
> > "Chris H." wrote:
> >
> >> Pieter, I'm communicating with Microsoft on this one. Last I heard was
> >> they
> >> were forwarding the issue to someone specific who has knowledge of it.
> >> That
> >> was Tuesday, and I haven't heard anything back yet. For what it is
> >> worth,
> >> I'm running 1 gig of RAM on this particular machine, and haven't had the
> >> problem.
> >> --
> >> Chris H.
> >> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
> >> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> >> Associate Expert
> >> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> >>
> >>
> >> "Pieter van Kampen" <vankampenp@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
> >> news:D4ECA493-7486-4126-87F7-86112022F20E@microsoft.com...
> >> > Q330909 Setup Error
> >> > Setup has detected that the Service Pack version of the system
> >> > installed
> >> > is
> >> > newer than the update you are applying to it.
> >> >
> >> > You can only install this update on a computer with no Service Packs
> >> > installed.
> >> >
> >> > My points are:
> >> > a) this service pack does not apply to XP SP2, but the problem is still
> >> > present
> >> > b) the SP says the problem occurs under high load, but it also occurs
> >> > under
> >> > no load at all
> >> > c) the problem does not occur directly after booting. After having used
> >> > the
> >> > system for a while (less than 1 day) but with high load and high memory
> >> > usage, this problem occurs always.
> >> > d) according to the posts on various forums, it occurs with many
> >> > people.
> >> > Probably everyone with more than 1 GB of memory who is actually using
> >> > it
> >> > and
> >> > using hibernate.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > The KB also talks about physical RAM fragmentation. Is there any way to
> >> > solve this or to cure this before hibernating?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for your attention.
> >> >
> >> > Pieter
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

8-) Thanks, Pieter.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"Pieter van Kampen" <vankampenp@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
news:190223D3-BA62-4A69-96CD-368EEF9F68C7@microsoft.com...
> Chris,
> offcourse I'd be prepared to give as much good words to your wife as you
> would like, if not more, but unfortunately that is not to be recommended -
> in
> view of the current hibernate problems with large memory that is.
>
> Thanks for your support.
>
> Pieter

Any updates on this? I'm experiencing the same problem as it seems
EVERYONE else is. Why Microsoft seems to basically deny this problem
(post SP2) is beyond me -- since they have a KB article on it and a
simple Google search shows that this problem is everywhere. Thanks :)

No updates yet, Eric. Microsoft is not denying the issue, they're working
on it. However, it is a Windows XP operating system issue, and it is a huge
project to pinpoint first of all, then correct without breaking something
else. I'll post when I hear anything at all.

If you absolutely must use Hibernation, I would suggest you drop your RAM
down to a gig so you don't have the error. If you must run more than a gig
of RAM for some reason, you can use alternatives like Standby or just plain
shutting down the machine.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


<eric.baal******.com> wrote in message
news:1124182204.941452.44500@z14g2000cwz.googlegro ups.com...
> Any updates on this? I'm experiencing the same problem as it seems
> EVERYONE else is. Why Microsoft seems to basically deny this problem
> (post SP2) is beyond me -- since they have a KB article on it and a
> simple Google search shows that this problem is everywhere. Thanks :)
>