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Old 04-15-2005, 10:15 AM
Paul Adare
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"Ruby" Prototype

Kind of cool looking:

http://www.akihabaranews.com/en/news_9485.html

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Old 04-15-2005, 10:15 AM
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Re: "Ruby" Prototype

Looks cool, but what processor will it use and how much RAM can it handle?
If they can match at least the current Centrio speed and up to 2 gigs of
RAM, it will be a winner.
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"Paul Adare" <padare@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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> Kind of cool looking:
>
> http://www.akihabaranews.com/en/news_9485.html
>
> --
> Paul Adare
> MVP - Windows - Virtual Machine
> http://www.identit.ca/blogs/paul/
> Scientists were excited this week at having isolated a brief sound which
> occurred immediately before the Big Bang.
> Apparently, the sound was, "uh oh".



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Old 04-15-2005, 06:16 PM
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Re: "Ruby" Prototype

Runs a Pentium M ULV 600 processor and a touch screen, no digitizer. Save
your money unless you really, really need small form.
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"Chris H." <winxpnews********.com> wrote in message
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> Looks cool, but what processor will it use and how much RAM can it handle?
> If they can match at least the current Centrio speed and up to 2 gigs of
> RAM, it will be a winner.
> --
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/nichol.mspx
> In memory of a true friend, Windows MVP Alex Nichol
>
> Chris H.
> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
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Old 04-15-2005, 07:16 PM
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Re: "Ruby" Prototype

Too bad. At least the form factor isn't bad. Without a digitizer, the
handwriting experience compared to a Tablet PC might as well be using an
analog mouse for input. 8-)
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"Jim Pickering" <jimp@mvps.0rg> wrote in message
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> Runs a Pentium M ULV 600 processor and a touch screen, no digitizer. Save
> your money unless you really, really need small form.
> --
> Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
> https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6
> Please reply to newsgroup only.
>
>
> "Chris H." <winxpnews********.com> wrote in message
> news:%23oMpmJeQFHA.3880@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> Looks cool, but what processor will it use and how much RAM can it
>> handle? If they can match at least the current Centrio speed and up to 2
>> gigs of RAM, it will be a winner.
>> --
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/nichol.mspx
>> In memory of a true friend, Windows MVP Alex Nichol
>>
>> Chris H.
>> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
>> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
>> Associate Expert
>> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone

>



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Old 04-16-2005, 12:16 AM
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Re: "Ruby" Prototype

In article <#9ew0giQFHA.3156@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl>, in the
microsoft.public.windows.tabletpc news group, Jim Pickering
<jimp@mvps.0rg> says...

> Runs a Pentium M ULV 600 processor


Right, this is stated in the article I linked to.

> and a touch screen, no digitizer.


Actually, the article states that is does not have a touch screen and
the picture shows what appears to be a standard tablet pen. You can even
see the button on the pen in the picture. My guess is that the author
doesn't really understand how a tablet works and was expecting a touch
screen.

> Save
> your money unless you really, really need small form.
>


This is simply a prototype.

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Old 04-16-2005, 12:16 AM
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Re: "Ruby" Prototype

In article <e96R1oiQFHA.3296@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl>, in the
microsoft.public.windows.tabletpc news group, Chris H.
<winxpnews********.com> says...

> Without a digitizer, the
> handwriting experience compared to a Tablet PC might as well be using an
> analog mouse for input. 8-)
>
>


I think that Jim has misread the article. Have a look at it, the
picture, and my follow-up to Jim.

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Old 04-16-2005, 03:22 AM
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Re: "Ruby" Prototype

Not to contradict, but the aritcle states
"it still packs a Pentium M ULV 600 and Wacom just like on a TabletPC. The
screen is not touch-sensitive though"
Maybe yes the author doesnt understand how tablet pcs work.. or maybe just
stating that as a good thing.. (Its how i read it.. more on the lines of
"its not a touch sensistive though! *smile*") But I could be wrong.
I think it looks neat, but why with the size!!
-James

"Paul Adare" <padare@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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> In article <#9ew0giQFHA.3156@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl>, in the
> microsoft.public.windows.tabletpc news group, Jim Pickering
> <jimp@mvps.0rg> says...
>
>> Runs a Pentium M ULV 600 processor

>
> Right, this is stated in the article I linked to.
>
>> and a touch screen, no digitizer.

>
> Actually, the article states that is does not have a touch screen and
> the picture shows what appears to be a standard tablet pen. You can even
> see the button on the pen in the picture. My guess is that the author
> doesn't really understand how a tablet works and was expecting a touch
> screen.
>
>> Save
>> your money unless you really, really need small form.
>>

>
> This is simply a prototype.
>
> --
> Paul Adare
> MVP - Windows - Virtual Machine
> http://www.identit.ca/blogs/paul/
> Scientists were excited this week at having isolated a brief sound which
> occurred immediately before the Big Bang.
> Apparently, the sound was, "uh oh".



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Old 04-16-2005, 04:17 AM
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Re: "Ruby" Prototype

In article <uZkiaLnQFHA.4028@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl>, in the
microsoft.public.windows.tabletpc news group, <"James Gockel"
<flibbertigibbet007_at_hotmail_dot_com>> says...

> Not to contradict, but the aritcle states
> "it still packs a Pentium M ULV 600 and Wacom just like on a TabletPC. The
> screen is not touch-sensitive though"
> Maybe yes the author doesnt understand how tablet pcs work.. or maybe just
> stating that as a good thing.. (Its how i read it.. more on the lines of
> "its not a touch sensistive though! *smile*") But I could be wrong.
>


What in the world are you talking about? Do you know the difference
between a touch sensitive screen and a digitizer?

You haven't "contradicted" anything, what you've posted doesn't make any
sense at all.

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Old 04-16-2005, 08:59 AM
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It's important to remember this is just a prototype so might never make the light of day. I have a few observations about this form factor, since I have been using a Sony U for a good while. I think the Ruby screen is about 5" which is the size of the screen on the Sony. I've also compared the Ruby screen desktop with different resolutions on the Sony and it appears to be 480x640 which is very small. Inking must be comfortable for a sustained session and narrow screens make that very difficult to do. This prototype also has a very anemic processor and only 128 MB of memory which will not run WinXP, let alone the Tablet extensions very well. I don't know anyone who's happy with any WinXP machine with 128 MB of RAM.

I am a big supporter of mini-Tablets but I think they need to be a bit bigger than this one to be practical.
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Old 04-16-2005, 12:17 PM
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Re: "Ruby" Prototype

Since most of the information about the Ruby platform is only available in
the Japanese language, and since device this is only a prototype and will
not be available for at least 2 years, according to all info (in English)
that I could find, I think it's much too early for anyone to make absolute
pronouncements as to what it does or does not have. All articles I've seen
state it does not have a digitizer. If Paul, or anyone else, can find info
to the contrary, I'd be happy to look at it.


"Paul Adare" <padare@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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> In article <e96R1oiQFHA.3296@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl>, in the
>
> I think that Jim has misread the article. Have a look at it, the
> picture, and my follow-up to Jim.
>
> Paul Adare
> MVP - Windows - Virtual Machine


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Old 04-16-2005, 12:17 PM
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Re: "Ruby" Prototype

yes actually I do.
But it was posted that the artical said that it had a touch sensitive
screen, but you can see the tablet style pen... when it clearly says
non-touch sensitive screen. Wacom Tablet Style screen.
I was just saying it didnt sound like the author was dissapointed by the
digitizer. But he may have been.

-James


"Paul Adare" <padare@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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> In article <uZkiaLnQFHA.4028@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl>, in the
> microsoft.public.windows.tabletpc news group, <"James Gockel"
> <flibbertigibbet007_at_hotmail_dot_com>> says...
>
>> Not to contradict, but the aritcle states
>> "it still packs a Pentium M ULV 600 and Wacom just like on a TabletPC.
>> The
>> screen is not touch-sensitive though"
>> Maybe yes the author doesnt understand how tablet pcs work.. or maybe
>> just
>> stating that as a good thing.. (Its how i read it.. more on the lines of
>> "its not a touch sensistive though! *smile*") But I could be wrong.
>>

>
> What in the world are you talking about? Do you know the difference
> between a touch sensitive screen and a digitizer?
>
> You haven't "contradicted" anything, what you've posted doesn't make any
> sense at all.
>
> --
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> MVP - Windows - Virtual Machine
> http://www.identit.ca/blogs/paul/
> Scientists were excited this week at having isolated a brief sound which
> occurred immediately before the Big Bang.
> Apparently, the sound was, "uh oh".



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