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Old 04-05-2005, 02:16 PM
Christopher Coulter
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New small-form factor Tablet afoot


My educated best guess, small-form factor Tablet slash eBook device, as I
hear rumors of prototypes floating all around MSFT. No OEMs yet tho. And I
have horrible memories of MS hyping up products that never have a decent
payoff. But let's hope. Kinda eBookish, small Tablet PCish. Amateur
detectives? I hate when they tease people like this, and then go crazy
once I do find out, Lonestar redux. But the game is afoot. =) Wonder if
Conrad knows this? :)

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http://blogs.msdn.com/evanf/archive/...03/405083.aspx

In other news, the moment of truth came and went... I was part of
a small group of people who had a concept presented at the Executive
Retreat a couple of weeks ago. The feedback that we got from the execs
was to go ahead and build it. So this upcoming week a few people will
be shopping around the concept to the OEMs and if one of them (or more
decides to build it) we've got a new and interesting product to put
together. For all those amateur detectives out there, read my blog and
maybe you'll puzzle out what the concept is or maybe not. At least it's
as entertaining as keeping up with what ever the latest Apple rumors are
:-)

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Old 04-05-2005, 03:16 PM
Christopher Coulter
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Re: New small-form factor Tablet afoot

Need Proof? :)

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=506354&page=2

GATES: I am meeting with our tablet people about the idea of carrying
text books around. They'll have just a tablet device that they can call up
the material on. That's been a dream for a long time, we're making
progress there. So review of the software projects and encouraging them in
terms of what they are doing well and telling them who else they need to
work with. That's the primary thing on my schedule.


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Old 04-06-2005, 02:24 AM
Ian Betteridge
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Re: New small-form factor Tablet afoot

Some manufacturers have done 8.4in slate Tablet's before - however, to
pack a machine in that small a form factor they've tended to go for
slow processors. I reviewed a machine like that for PC Pro magazine
last year (http://www.pcpro.co.uk/labs/63465/ec...let-ez30d.html)
and wasn't impressed.

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Old 04-06-2005, 05:15 AM
Mickey Segal
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Re: New small-form factor Tablet afoot

It is amazing how close one can get to a good product and mess up because of
a bad choice such as a slow processor.

"Ian Betteridge" <ianbetteridge******.com> wrote in message
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> Some manufacturers have done 8.4in slate Tablet's before - however, to
> pack a machine in that small a form factor they've tended to go for
> slow processors. I reviewed a machine like that for PC Pro magazine
> last year (http://www.pcpro.co.uk/labs/63465/ec...let-ez30d.html)
> and wasn't impressed.



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Old 04-06-2005, 06:17 AM
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Re: New small-form factor Tablet afoot

You may want to take another look at the 8.4" tablet! Redesigned and marketed
by Advueu Corporation, the V800XPT-2 now has 512MB ram, 40GB hard drive and
runs Windows XP Tablet Edition 2005 with eaze. The 800MHZ Transmeta Crusoe
processor is not the fastest on the market but is one of the lowest power
consumers. This combined with with a larger battery gives 6 hours of
continuous operation on battery power! The small form factor make this the
most portable tablet on the market. The V800XPT-2 is powerful enough to run
Adobe Photoshop CS. Unlike the Intel Processor based computers that I have
previously owned, the Advueu has fuctioned flawlessly with no BSOD. priced at
under $1000. This tablet is worth another look.
>
>
>

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Old 04-06-2005, 08:15 AM
Mickey Segal
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Re: New small-form factor Tablet afoot

The extra RAM could explain the improvement you describe.

The links from http://www.advueu.com/003/productitem.php?id=51 suggest that
people in the US can see the computer at stores such as CompUSA, but I don't
see it listed when searching on the web sites of CompUSA or TigerDirect, the
only outlets I tried from Advueu's "where to buy" page.

"jerryrock" <jerryrock@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:FE8C38D7-D050-44E2-81D4-8468EDE48894@microsoft.com...
> You may want to take another look at the 8.4" tablet! Redesigned and
> marketed
> by Advueu Corporation, the V800XPT-2 now has 512MB ram, 40GB hard drive
> and
> runs Windows XP Tablet Edition 2005 with eaze. The 800MHZ Transmeta Crusoe
> processor is not the fastest on the market but is one of the lowest power
> consumers. This combined with with a larger battery gives 6 hours of
> continuous operation on battery power! The small form factor make this the
> most portable tablet on the market. The V800XPT-2 is powerful enough to
> run
> Adobe Photoshop CS. Unlike the Intel Processor based computers that I have
> previously owned, the Advueu has fuctioned flawlessly with no BSOD. priced
> at
> under $1000. This tablet is worth another look.



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Old 04-06-2005, 11:16 AM
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Re: New small-form factor Tablet afoot

Try: www.newegg.com

"Mickey Segal" wrote:

> The extra RAM could explain the improvement you describe.
>
> The links from http://www.advueu.com/003/productitem.php?id=51 suggest that
> people in the US can see the computer at stores such as CompUSA, but I don't
> see it listed when searching on the web sites of CompUSA or TigerDirect, the
> only outlets I tried from Advueu's "where to buy" page.
>
> "jerryrock" <jerryrock@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:FE8C38D7-D050-44E2-81D4-8468EDE48894@microsoft.com...
> > You may want to take another look at the 8.4" tablet! Redesigned and
> > marketed
> > by Advueu Corporation, the V800XPT-2 now has 512MB ram, 40GB hard drive
> > and
> > runs Windows XP Tablet Edition 2005 with eaze. The 800MHZ Transmeta Crusoe
> > processor is not the fastest on the market but is one of the lowest power
> > consumers. This combined with with a larger battery gives 6 hours of
> > continuous operation on battery power! The small form factor make this the
> > most portable tablet on the market. The V800XPT-2 is powerful enough to
> > run
> > Adobe Photoshop CS. Unlike the Intel Processor based computers that I have
> > previously owned, the Advueu has fuctioned flawlessly with no BSOD. priced
> > at
> > under $1000. This tablet is worth another look.

>
>
>

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Old 04-06-2005, 12:17 PM
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Re: New small-form factor Tablet afoot

I can't find the Advueu Tablet there either.

"jerryrock" <jerryrock@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Try: www.newegg.com



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Old 04-06-2005, 04:16 PM
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Re: New small-form factor Tablet afoot

It is listed as Vision V800Xpt-2 or just do a search for V800XPT on the
newegg site. The price has dropped to $989.




"Mickey Segal" wrote:

> I can't find the Advueu Tablet there either.
>
> "jerryrock" <jerryrock@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:2BA9B329-593B-40C8-A975-2D7C6A96FD53@microsoft.com...
> > Try: www.newegg.com

>
>
>

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Old 04-06-2005, 04:16 PM
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Re: New small-form factor Tablet afoot

I see it now. It even includes the 6 hour battery instead of the 3 hour
battery listed as the standard configuration on the Advueu site.

The Advueu folks had better make their products easier to find if they want
a lot of people to buy them. Having this much difficulty after following
the "Where to buy" link on a Web site is not exactly state of the art.

"jerryrock" <jerryrock@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> It is listed as Vision V800Xpt-2 or just do a search for V800XPT on the
> newegg site. The price has dropped to $989.



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Old 04-07-2005, 03:15 AM
Ian Betteridge
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Re: New small-form factor Tablet afoot


Mickey Segal wrote:
> The extra RAM could explain the improvement you describe.


Extra RAM makes a vast difference to performance in Windows, no matter
if it's a Tablet or desktop. I'd never go for less than 512Mb, and if
you can upgrade to 1Gb you'll see much better performance.

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Old 04-07-2005, 11:16 AM
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Re: New small-form factor Tablet afoot

"Ian Betteridge" <ianbetteridge******.com> wrote in message
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> Mickey Segal wrote:
>> The extra RAM could explain the improvement you describe.

>
> Extra RAM makes a vast difference to performance in Windows, no matter
> if it's a Tablet or desktop. I'd never go for less than 512Mb, and if
> you can upgrade to 1Gb you'll see much better performance.


I don't see much performance difference between 515 MB and 1 GB, but I don't
do multimedia.

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Old 04-08-2005, 02:15 AM
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Re: New small-form factor Tablet afoot

In article <OO#1ek5OFHA.1396@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl>,
franksaunders@mvps.org says...
> "Ian Betteridge" <ianbetteridge******.com> wrote in message
> news:1112868669.209366.13490@f14g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com
> > Mickey Segal wrote:
> >> The extra RAM could explain the improvement you describe.

> >
> > Extra RAM makes a vast difference to performance in Windows, no matter
> > if it's a Tablet or desktop. I'd never go for less than 512Mb, and if
> > you can upgrade to 1Gb you'll see much better performance.

>
> I don't see much performance difference between 515 MB and 1 GB, but I don't
> do multimedia.


I must admit that although the jump from 256-512 produces a good
performance gain for general work, any performance gains from upgrading
over 512 seem to be marginal. I do some multimedia, but not that much
large stuff.

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Old 04-13-2005, 07:18 PM
Mickey Segal
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Re: New small-form factor Tablet afoot

This article:
http://www.microsoft-watch.com/artic...1785648,00.asp
speculates that Motion Computing may step up to the plate: "One source
suggested that Motion Computing, one of Microsoft's Tablet OEM partners,
would be the most likely candidate to build such a machine, as it has done
some mini-Tablet prototypes of its own".

James Kendrick and I have been arguing for this form factor for mobile
people such as doctors:
http://jkontherun.blogs.com/jkonther...tapped_ta.html
www.segal.org/tablet/

It would be nice if years of trying to tempt key people worked and led to a
successful product.


"Christopher Coulter" <kilmerr5******.com> wrote in message
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>
> My educated best guess, small-form factor Tablet slash eBook device, as I
> hear rumors of prototypes floating all around MSFT. No OEMs yet tho.



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