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Old 03-22-2005, 01:20 PM
Stan
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How can I use Windows XP Tablet Edition on tablet PC with touch screen?

I have ViewSonic ViewPad 1000 Tablet PC with touch screen. As far as
understand, the difference between a touch screen and an electromagnetic
digitizing screen is that certain function don't work on a touch screen. For
example, the mouse pointer does not follow the pen, Press and Hold, etc. It
looks like a touch screen only reacts on touch.

After I upgraded my OS to Win XP Tablet edition I found that none of the
functions I really wanted works - Input panel does not come up, I don't have
any recognition except in Windows Journal,etc.

I can only right click with the pen by using the driver that came with the
PC which displays the mouse on the task bar. Taping the mouse toggles left
and right click.

Is there anything I can do about it or I need third-party software, like
PenOffice to have ink in all applications?

Thanks,

-Stan


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Old 03-22-2005, 01:20 PM
Paul Adare
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Re: How can I use Windows XP Tablet Edition on tablet PC with touch screen?

In article <OBA0Y#xLFHA.1308@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl>, in the
microsoft.public.windows.tabletpc news group, Stan <nospam******.com>
says...

> After I upgraded my OS to Win XP Tablet edition I found that none of the
> functions I really wanted works - Input panel does not come up, I don't have
> any recognition except in Windows Journal,etc.
>


ViewSonic may call this model a TabletPC, but it isn't one.

--
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"On two occasions, I have been asked [by members of Parliament],
'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures,
will the right answers come out?' I am not able to rightly apprehend
the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question."
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Old 03-22-2005, 01:20 PM
Chris H.
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Re: How can I use Windows XP Tablet Edition on tablet PC with touch screen?

Not much you can do about it if you've already purchased the machine, Stan.
True Tablet PCs, as we support in this newsgroup, all have digitizers behind
the screens. The handwriting requires specific items, specific scanning
qualifications and specific quality functionality on the Tablet PCs.
Unfortunately you don't have a computer which meets the criteria set out:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/mobility/tabletpc/hardware/
--
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/nichol.mspx
In memory of a true friend, Windows MVP Alex Nichol

Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"Stan" <nospam******.com> wrote in message
news:OBA0Y%23xLFHA.1308@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>I have ViewSonic ViewPad 1000 Tablet PC with touch screen. As far as
> understand, the difference between a touch screen and an electromagnetic
> digitizing screen is that certain function don't work on a touch screen.
> For
> example, the mouse pointer does not follow the pen, Press and Hold, etc.
> It
> looks like a touch screen only reacts on touch.
>
> After I upgraded my OS to Win XP Tablet edition I found that none of the
> functions I really wanted works - Input panel does not come up, I don't
> have
> any recognition except in Windows Journal,etc.
>
> I can only right click with the pen by using the driver that came with the
> PC which displays the mouse on the task bar. Taping the mouse toggles left
> and right click.
>
> Is there anything I can do about it or I need third-party software, like
> PenOffice to have ink in all applications?
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Stan
>
>



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Old 03-22-2005, 01:20 PM
Woody
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Re: How can I use Windows XP Tablet Edition on tablet PC with touch screen?

Stan <nospam******.com> wrote:

> I have ViewSonic ViewPad 1000 Tablet PC with touch screen. As far as
> understand, the difference between a touch screen and an electromagnetic
> digitizing screen is that certain function don't work on a touch screen. For
> example, the mouse pointer does not follow the pen, Press and Hold, etc. It
> looks like a touch screen only reacts on touch.
>
> After I upgraded my OS to Win XP Tablet edition I found that none of the
> functions I really wanted works - Input panel does not come up, I don't have
> any recognition except in Windows Journal,etc.
>
> I can only right click with the pen by using the driver that came with the
> PC which displays the mouse on the task bar. Taping the mouse toggles left
> and right click.
>
> Is there anything I can do about it or I need third-party software, like
> PenOffice to have ink in all applications?


The ViewPad 1000 isn't a tabletPC, that is reserved for the V1100.

You would need third party software to be able to use it. TabletPC
relies on the fact that it knows when the cursor is over a text area. As
you cannot have that on this model, you will not be able to get it to
work.


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Old 03-23-2005, 06:19 AM
Stan
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Re: How can I use Windows XP Tablet Edition on tablet PC with touch screen?

> You would need third party software to be able to use it. TabletPC
> relies on the fact that it knows when the cursor is over a text area. As
> you cannot have that on this model, you will not be able to get it to
> work.


I had third-party ink ooftware originally on the PC - PenOffice. After
Windows XP Tablet Edition came out I decided to upgrade thinking that I will
no longer need PenOffice.

The installation program could have warned me that this device is not fully
compatible. It would have saved me a lot of time...

-Stan


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Old 03-23-2005, 07:11 AM
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There is a user written utility on the Yahoo Sony U70 users group called Tabtip that enables the floating tip on touchscreen devices running the Tablet OS.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VaioU70/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stan
> You would need third party software to be able to use it. TabletPC
> relies on the fact that it knows when the cursor is over a text area. As
> you cannot have that on this model, you will not be able to get it to
> work.


I had third-party ink ooftware originally on the PC - PenOffice. After
Windows XP Tablet Edition came out I decided to upgrade thinking that I will
no longer need PenOffice.

The installation program could have warned me that this device is not fully
compatible. It would have saved me a lot of time...

-Stan
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Old 03-23-2005, 07:16 AM
Chris H.
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Re: How can I use Windows XP Tablet Edition on tablet PC with touch screen?

Stan, just curious what your source of the Tablet PC Edition is, since it is
not available off-the-shelf.
--
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/nichol.mspx
In memory of a true friend, Windows MVP Alex Nichol

Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"Stan" <nospam******.com> wrote in message
news:Os0Pyr6LFHA.3076@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> You would need third party software to be able to use it. TabletPC
>> relies on the fact that it knows when the cursor is over a text area. As
>> you cannot have that on this model, you will not be able to get it to
>> work.

>
> I had third-party ink ooftware originally on the PC - PenOffice. After
> Windows XP Tablet Edition came out I decided to upgrade thinking that I
> will
> no longer need PenOffice.
>
> The installation program could have warned me that this device is not
> fully
> compatible. It would have saved me a lot of time...
>
> -Stan
>
>



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Old 03-23-2005, 08:16 AM
Stan
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Re: How can I use Windows XP Tablet Edition on tablet PC with touch screen?

MSDN universal
"Chris H." <winxpnews********.com> wrote in message
news:OH5kua7LFHA.3928@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Stan, just curious what your source of the Tablet PC Edition is, since it

is
> not available off-the-shelf.
> --
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/nichol.mspx
> In memory of a true friend, Windows MVP Alex Nichol
>
> Chris H.
> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> Associate Expert
> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>
>
> "Stan" <nospam******.com> wrote in message
> news:Os0Pyr6LFHA.3076@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> >> You would need third party software to be able to use it. TabletPC
> >> relies on the fact that it knows when the cursor is over a text area.

As
> >> you cannot have that on this model, you will not be able to get it to
> >> work.

> >
> > I had third-party ink ooftware originally on the PC - PenOffice. After
> > Windows XP Tablet Edition came out I decided to upgrade thinking that I
> > will
> > no longer need PenOffice.
> >
> > The installation program could have warned me that this device is not
> > fully
> > compatible. It would have saved me a lot of time...
> >
> > -Stan
> >
> >

>
>



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Old 03-23-2005, 08:16 AM
Chris H.
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Re: How can I use Windows XP Tablet Edition on tablet PC with touch screen?

Then you know how the EULA regulates your usage. A lot of developers use it
on desktops (that's how the Tablet PC Edition was created in the first
place).
--
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/nichol.mspx
In memory of a true friend, Windows MVP Alex Nichol

Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"Stan" <nospam******.com> wrote in message
news:%23Hr7F97LFHA.3184@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> MSDN universal
> "Chris H." <winxpnews********.com> wrote in message
> news:OH5kua7LFHA.3928@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> Stan, just curious what your source of the Tablet PC Edition is, since it

> is
>> not available off-the-shelf.
>> --
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/nichol.mspx
>> In memory of a true friend, Windows MVP Alex Nichol
>>
>> Chris H.
>> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
>> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
>> Associate Expert
>> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>
>>
>> "Stan" <nospam******.com> wrote in message
>> news:Os0Pyr6LFHA.3076@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> >> You would need third party software to be able to use it. TabletPC
>> >> relies on the fact that it knows when the cursor is over a text area.

> As
>> >> you cannot have that on this model, you will not be able to get it to
>> >> work.
>> >
>> > I had third-party ink ooftware originally on the PC - PenOffice. After
>> > Windows XP Tablet Edition came out I decided to upgrade thinking that I
>> > will
>> > no longer need PenOffice.
>> >
>> > The installation program could have warned me that this device is not
>> > fully
>> > compatible. It would have saved me a lot of time...
>> >
>> > -Stan
>> >
>> >

>>
>>

>
>



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Old 03-23-2005, 11:16 AM
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Re: How can I use Windows XP Tablet Edition on tablet PC with touch screen?

Stan <nospam******.com> wrote:

> > You would need third party software to be able to use it. TabletPC
> > relies on the fact that it knows when the cursor is over a text area. As
> > you cannot have that on this model, you will not be able to get it to
> > work.

>
> I had third-party ink ooftware originally on the PC - PenOffice. After
> Windows XP Tablet Edition came out I decided to upgrade thinking that I will
> no longer need PenOffice.
>
> The installation program could have warned me that this device is not fully
> compatible. It would have saved me a lot of time...


That is one of the reasons why TabletXP is not available as a 'to buy'
operating system. If you used MSDN to instal it then it is assumed you
are developing on that machine, so the fact it doesn't work quite right
is not really that important.

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Old 03-24-2005, 03:16 PM
Mason [MSFT]
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Re: How can I use Windows XP Tablet Edition on tablet PC with touch screen?

Quite right, Chris.

Stan, double check your steps on the Tablet Edition install. It sounds like
you have used the incorrect product key or forgotten to use the
/makelocalsource:all flag when performing your install.

Mason Jensen
Software Test Engineer
Windows - Tablet PC


"Chris H." <winxpnews********.com> wrote in message
news:%23n5KyD8LFHA.2940@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> Then you know how the EULA regulates your usage. A lot of developers use
> it on desktops (that's how the Tablet PC Edition was created in the first
> place).
> --
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/nichol.mspx
> In memory of a true friend, Windows MVP Alex Nichol
>
> Chris H.
> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> Associate Expert
> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>
>
> "Stan" <nospam******.com> wrote in message
> news:%23Hr7F97LFHA.3184@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> MSDN universal
>> "Chris H." <winxpnews********.com> wrote in message
>> news:OH5kua7LFHA.3928@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>> Stan, just curious what your source of the Tablet PC Edition is, since
>>> it

>> is
>>> not available off-the-shelf.
>>> --
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/nichol.mspx
>>> In memory of a true friend, Windows MVP Alex Nichol
>>>
>>> Chris H.
>>> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
>>> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
>>> Associate Expert
>>> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>>
>>>
>>> "Stan" <nospam******.com> wrote in message
>>> news:Os0Pyr6LFHA.3076@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>> >> You would need third party software to be able to use it. TabletPC
>>> >> relies on the fact that it knows when the cursor is over a text area.

>> As
>>> >> you cannot have that on this model, you will not be able to get it to
>>> >> work.
>>> >
>>> > I had third-party ink ooftware originally on the PC - PenOffice. After
>>> > Windows XP Tablet Edition came out I decided to upgrade thinking that
>>> > I
>>> > will
>>> > no longer need PenOffice.
>>> >
>>> > The installation program could have warned me that this device is not
>>> > fully
>>> > compatible. It would have saved me a lot of time...
>>> >
>>> > -Stan
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
>



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Old 03-25-2005, 10:15 AM
Stan
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Re: How can I use Windows XP Tablet Edition on tablet PC with touch screen?

The installation was on two CDs, it accepted product key without any
problems. I did not use any flags..

"Mason [MSFT]" <mason@noemail.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:%23ARi2NMMFHA.3420@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Quite right, Chris.
>
> Stan, double check your steps on the Tablet Edition install. It sounds

like
> you have used the incorrect product key or forgotten to use the
> /makelocalsource:all flag when performing your install.
>
> Mason Jensen
> Software Test Engineer
> Windows - Tablet PC
>
>
> "Chris H." <winxpnews********.com> wrote in message
> news:%23n5KyD8LFHA.2940@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> > Then you know how the EULA regulates your usage. A lot of developers

use
> > it on desktops (that's how the Tablet PC Edition was created in the

first
> > place).
> > --
> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/nichol.mspx
> > In memory of a true friend, Windows MVP Alex Nichol
> >
> > Chris H.
> > Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
> > Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> > Associate Expert
> > Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> >
> >
> > "Stan" <nospam******.com> wrote in message
> > news:%23Hr7F97LFHA.3184@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> >> MSDN universal
> >> "Chris H." <winxpnews********.com> wrote in message
> >> news:OH5kua7LFHA.3928@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> >>> Stan, just curious what your source of the Tablet PC Edition is, since
> >>> it
> >> is
> >>> not available off-the-shelf.
> >>> --
> >>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/nichol.mspx
> >>> In memory of a true friend, Windows MVP Alex Nichol
> >>>
> >>> Chris H.
> >>> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
> >>> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> >>> Associate Expert
> >>> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "Stan" <nospam******.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:Os0Pyr6LFHA.3076@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> >>> >> You would need third party software to be able to use it. TabletPC
> >>> >> relies on the fact that it knows when the cursor is over a text

area.
> >> As
> >>> >> you cannot have that on this model, you will not be able to get it

to
> >>> >> work.
> >>> >
> >>> > I had third-party ink ooftware originally on the PC - PenOffice.

After
> >>> > Windows XP Tablet Edition came out I decided to upgrade thinking

that
> >>> > I
> >>> > will
> >>> > no longer need PenOffice.
> >>> >
> >>> > The installation program could have warned me that this device is

not
> >>> > fully
> >>> > compatible. It would have saved me a lot of time...
> >>> >
> >>> > -Stan
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>

> >
> >

>
>



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Old 03-26-2005, 08:21 PM
Chris H.
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Re: How can I use Windows XP Tablet Edition on tablet PC with touch screen?

Stan, even if you used the proper PID, the hardware on which you've
installed the MSDN development software is not a true Tablet PC and you
therefore will have unexpected results. We don't support that type of
installation here.
--
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/nichol.mspx
In memory of a true friend, Windows MVP Alex Nichol

Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"Stan" <nospam******.com> wrote in message
news:eiAd4WWMFHA.244@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> The installation was on two CDs, it accepted product key without any
> problems. I did not use any flags..
>
> "Mason [MSFT]" <mason@noemail.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:%23ARi2NMMFHA.3420@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> Quite right, Chris.
>>
>> Stan, double check your steps on the Tablet Edition install. It sounds

> like
>> you have used the incorrect product key or forgotten to use the
>> /makelocalsource:all flag when performing your install.
>>
>> Mason Jensen
>> Software Test Engineer
>> Windows - Tablet PC
>>
>>
>> "Chris H." <winxpnews********.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23n5KyD8LFHA.2940@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>> > Then you know how the EULA regulates your usage. A lot of developers

> use
>> > it on desktops (that's how the Tablet PC Edition was created in the

> first
>> > place).
>> > --
>> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/nichol.mspx
>> > In memory of a true friend, Windows MVP Alex Nichol
>> >
>> > Chris H.
>> > Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
>> > Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
>> > Associate Expert
>> > Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>> >
>> >
>> > "Stan" <nospam******.com> wrote in message
>> > news:%23Hr7F97LFHA.3184@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> >> MSDN universal
>> >> "Chris H." <winxpnews********.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:OH5kua7LFHA.3928@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> >>> Stan, just curious what your source of the Tablet PC Edition is,
>> >>> since
>> >>> it
>> >> is
>> >>> not available off-the-shelf.
>> >>> --
>> >>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/nichol.mspx
>> >>> In memory of a true friend, Windows MVP Alex Nichol
>> >>>
>> >>> Chris H.
>> >>> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
>> >>> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
>> >>> Associate Expert
>> >>> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> "Stan" <nospam******.com> wrote in message
>> >>> news:Os0Pyr6LFHA.3076@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> >>> >> You would need third party software to be able to use it. TabletPC
>> >>> >> relies on the fact that it knows when the cursor is over a text

> area.
>> >> As
>> >>> >> you cannot have that on this model, you will not be able to get it

> to
>> >>> >> work.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > I had third-party ink ooftware originally on the PC - PenOffice.

> After
>> >>> > Windows XP Tablet Edition came out I decided to upgrade thinking

> that
>> >>> > I
>> >>> > will
>> >>> > no longer need PenOffice.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > The installation program could have warned me that this device is

> not
>> >>> > fully
>> >>> > compatible. It would have saved me a lot of time...
>> >>> >
>> >>> > -Stan
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >

>>
>>

>
>



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