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Old 03-21-2005, 07:15 PM
Jonathan Sachs
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Editing Word documents with a pen?

I've been hoping to buy a tablet PC as soon as I can afford to, for
one reason: to be able to edit Word documents with a pen instead of
voice (since carpal tunnel syndrome severely limits my use of
keyboards).

To be absolutely clear about what I mean by "edit," I'll give a couple
of examples. I would be able to delete text by drawing a line through
it and making a "delete" gesture (like the "delete" proofreading
symbol). I would be able to insert text by making an "insert" gesture
(like a proofreader's caret) and writing in the margin or in an input
box or whatever. If the technical details are not quite as I imagine
them and I have to learn a new set of gestures or procedures, that's
not a big deal; the important thing is the ability to make changes to
typed document content with the pen.

Up to now I've simply assumed that Office XP on a tablet PC can do
this. The capability seems so major and so basic that I never
questioned it. But I'm getting suspicious, because I can't find any
documents on the Web that unambiguously say it's possible.

I have found assurance that I can handwrite text and convert it to a
document, but that's not what I need. I also found a "What's new in
Word 2003" thing that gushes about improvements to annotation, but
"annotation" seems to mean handwritten notes and marks that are
layered on top of typed text, and can later be used as a guide to
editing the document with the keyboard and mouse. That's not what I
need, either.

I found a discussion board where someone asked the same question I'm
asking, and got two answers. One answer was that it "should work" with
Word 2003 (which was not yet available at the time). The other answer
was an unconditional "yes," but it was written so obliquely that it
made me wonder whether the author understood the question.

Before I spend $1000 or more for a new gadget, I need to be sure it
will do what I want it to do. Can someone clarify this for me? If the
answer is positive, it will be really useful if you can point me to a
"guided tour" type of web site that shows how it works.

My email address is llm040903 at earthlink dot net.
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Old 03-21-2005, 08:18 PM
Chris H.
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Re: Editing Word documents with a pen?

You won't find exactly what you want as you've described it. And first let
me tell you that Office 2003 is much better for Ink on a Tablet PC than
Office XP (the 2002 version programs), even with the Office XP add-on pack
for Tablets.

However, for removing a word, a double-tap with your pen will select it,
then a right-click or holding the pen tip to the screen for a right-click
menu will allow you to use Delete. As for inserting a word, you just place
your cursor where you want to insert the word then use the TIP floating icon
(Tablet Input Panel Access icon) to write the new word.
--
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/nichol.mspx
In memory of a true friend, Windows MVP Alex Nichol

Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"Jonathan Sachs" <llm040903@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:im0v31pbhclt2hi7aaee0mise81foshll2@4ax.com...
> I've been hoping to buy a tablet PC as soon as I can afford to, for
> one reason: to be able to edit Word documents with a pen instead of
> voice (since carpal tunnel syndrome severely limits my use of
> keyboards).
>
> To be absolutely clear about what I mean by "edit," I'll give a couple
> of examples. I would be able to delete text by drawing a line through
> it and making a "delete" gesture (like the "delete" proofreading
> symbol). I would be able to insert text by making an "insert" gesture
> (like a proofreader's caret) and writing in the margin or in an input
> box or whatever. If the technical details are not quite as I imagine
> them and I have to learn a new set of gestures or procedures, that's
> not a big deal; the important thing is the ability to make changes to
> typed document content with the pen.
>
> Up to now I've simply assumed that Office XP on a tablet PC can do
> this. The capability seems so major and so basic that I never
> questioned it. But I'm getting suspicious, because I can't find any
> documents on the Web that unambiguously say it's possible.
>
> I have found assurance that I can handwrite text and convert it to a
> document, but that's not what I need. I also found a "What's new in
> Word 2003" thing that gushes about improvements to annotation, but
> "annotation" seems to mean handwritten notes and marks that are
> layered on top of typed text, and can later be used as a guide to
> editing the document with the keyboard and mouse. That's not what I
> need, either.
>
> I found a discussion board where someone asked the same question I'm
> asking, and got two answers. One answer was that it "should work" with
> Word 2003 (which was not yet available at the time). The other answer
> was an unconditional "yes," but it was written so obliquely that it
> made me wonder whether the author understood the question.
>
> Before I spend $1000 or more for a new gadget, I need to be sure it
> will do what I want it to do. Can someone clarify this for me? If the
> answer is positive, it will be really useful if you can point me to a
> "guided tour" type of web site that shows how it works.
>
> My email address is llm040903 at earthlink dot net.



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Old 03-21-2005, 09:16 PM
Ken Schaefer
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Re: Editing Word documents with a pen?

: However, for removing a word, a double-tap with your pen will select it,
: then a right-click or holding the pen tip to the screen for a right-click
: menu will allow you to use Delete.

There's also the "Delete" button in the Tablet Input Panel

Or, if you're using a Toshiba, just assign a Symbol Commander "gesture" to
the "Delete" command. That would probably be the closest to what the
original poster wanted (since they already had a specific gesture in mind)




: As for inserting a word, you just place
: your cursor where you want to insert the word then use the TIP floating
icon
: (Tablet Input Panel Access icon) to write the new word.
: --
: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/nichol.mspx
: In memory of a true friend, Windows MVP Alex Nichol
:
: Chris H.
: Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
: Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
: Associate Expert
: Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
:
:
: "Jonathan Sachs" <llm040903@earthlink.net> wrote in message
: news:im0v31pbhclt2hi7aaee0mise81foshll2@4ax.com...
: > I've been hoping to buy a tablet PC as soon as I can afford to, for
: > one reason: to be able to edit Word documents with a pen instead of
: > voice (since carpal tunnel syndrome severely limits my use of
: > keyboards).
: >
: > To be absolutely clear about what I mean by "edit," I'll give a couple
: > of examples. I would be able to delete text by drawing a line through
: > it and making a "delete" gesture (like the "delete" proofreading
: > symbol). I would be able to insert text by making an "insert" gesture
: > (like a proofreader's caret) and writing in the margin or in an input
: > box or whatever. If the technical details are not quite as I imagine
: > them and I have to learn a new set of gestures or procedures, that's
: > not a big deal; the important thing is the ability to make changes to
: > typed document content with the pen.
: >
: > Up to now I've simply assumed that Office XP on a tablet PC can do
: > this. The capability seems so major and so basic that I never
: > questioned it. But I'm getting suspicious, because I can't find any
: > documents on the Web that unambiguously say it's possible.
: >
: > I have found assurance that I can handwrite text and convert it to a
: > document, but that's not what I need. I also found a "What's new in
: > Word 2003" thing that gushes about improvements to annotation, but
: > "annotation" seems to mean handwritten notes and marks that are
: > layered on top of typed text, and can later be used as a guide to
: > editing the document with the keyboard and mouse. That's not what I
: > need, either.
: >
: > I found a discussion board where someone asked the same question I'm
: > asking, and got two answers. One answer was that it "should work" with
: > Word 2003 (which was not yet available at the time). The other answer
: > was an unconditional "yes," but it was written so obliquely that it
: > made me wonder whether the author understood the question.
: >
: > Before I spend $1000 or more for a new gadget, I need to be sure it
: > will do what I want it to do. Can someone clarify this for me? If the
: > answer is positive, it will be really useful if you can point me to a
: > "guided tour" type of web site that shows how it works.
: >
: > My email address is llm040903 at earthlink dot net.
:
:


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Old 03-22-2005, 11:15 AM
Jonathan Sachs
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Re: Editing Word documents with a pen?

On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:29:30 -0800, "Chris H." wrote:

>You won't find exactly what you want...
>However, for removing a word, a double-tap with your pen will select it,
>then a right-click or holding the pen tip to the screen for a right-click
>menu will allow you to use Delete. As for inserting a word, you just place
>your cursor where you want to insert the word then use the TIP floating icon
>(Tablet Input Panel Access icon) to write the new word.


Thanks for providing part of an answer to my question. I hope we can
answer it completely if we focus on what I said in the OP: "the
important thing is the ability to make changes to typed document
content with the pen."

Bear in mind that routine editing operations require all sorts of
changes to text, such as: inserting, deleting or replacing individual
letters or sequences of letters to correct misspellings; inserting,
deleting or replacing single words or small groups of words; inserting
or deleting larger pieces of text in paragraphs, or entire paragraphs;
changing letters or words from lower case to capitalized and vice
versa; setting styles; turning boldface and italics on and off; and so
forth.

I tried to clarify my original inquiry with a couple of specific
statements about inserting and deleting "text." You responded by
telling me how I could insert or delete "a word."

Were you using "a word" as a synonym for "text"? Or does "a word"
literally mean "a word," so that to insert a four-word phrase I would
have to perform an "insert word" operation four times? What about
other common editing operations? Are they implemented with distinct
commands (or not at all), or does insert/delete work the same way no
matter what the unit(s) of text?

My email address is llm040903 at earthlink dot net.
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Old 03-22-2005, 11:15 AM
Chris H.
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Re: Editing Word documents with a pen?

Sorry, I thought you understood editing in Word as it applied to text. It
is the same as using a mouse and cursor. You select a word or words, entire
sentences or paragraphs, or multiples thereof by dragging your pen just as
you would with a mouse/cursor combination. Drag/Select, then do commands
just as you would with a mouse. In this case, your pen is your mouse.

Example, drag and select a paragraph using the pen. You want to delete,
then either right-click the pen button or hold the pen tip to the surface to
achieve the right-click menu. Select Delete or Cut, Copy or Paste. Since
you're talking about existing text, there's no magic thing like the gestures
(http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u.../gestures.mspx)
to select a word, sentence or paragraph and then "scratch-out" the
selection.

Your additional items of inserting text, changing a word, etc., would be
handled through the Tablet Input Panel, where you would select the text
words (or words) in Word, then open the TIP and modify what you want written
there by writing the word or words, then tapping Insert. Selection of font
styles, colors, bold face, Italics, etc., still must be done through the
Word menu items, because it is the Office program which controls how that's
done, not the TIP or Tablet PC Edition superset.

Some input is easier, depending on the program. Windows Journal, for
instance, since the input is handwriting, can be edited with the scratch-out
gesture if you later want to change a word, sentence or paragraph. OneNote
has the same functionality, too, but in both cases the gesture only applies
to Ink, not text.
--
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/nichol.mspx
In memory of a true friend, Windows MVP Alex Nichol

Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"Jonathan Sachs" <llm040903@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:29:30 -0800, "Chris H." wrote:
>
>>You won't find exactly what you want...
>>However, for removing a word, a double-tap with your pen will select it,
>>then a right-click or holding the pen tip to the screen for a right-click
>>menu will allow you to use Delete. As for inserting a word, you just
>>place
>>your cursor where you want to insert the word then use the TIP floating
>>icon
>>(Tablet Input Panel Access icon) to write the new word.

>
> Thanks for providing part of an answer to my question. I hope we can
> answer it completely if we focus on what I said in the OP: "the
> important thing is the ability to make changes to typed document
> content with the pen."
>
> Bear in mind that routine editing operations require all sorts of
> changes to text, such as: inserting, deleting or replacing individual
> letters or sequences of letters to correct misspellings; inserting,
> deleting or replacing single words or small groups of words; inserting
> or deleting larger pieces of text in paragraphs, or entire paragraphs;
> changing letters or words from lower case to capitalized and vice
> versa; setting styles; turning boldface and italics on and off; and so
> forth.
>
> I tried to clarify my original inquiry with a couple of specific
> statements about inserting and deleting "text." You responded by
> telling me how I could insert or delete "a word."
>
> Were you using "a word" as a synonym for "text"? Or does "a word"
> literally mean "a word," so that to insert a four-word phrase I would
> have to perform an "insert word" operation four times? What about
> other common editing operations? Are they implemented with distinct
> commands (or not at all), or does insert/delete work the same way no
> matter what the unit(s) of text?
>
> My email address is llm040903 at earthlink dot net.



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Old 03-22-2005, 01:20 PM
James Gockel
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Re: Editing Word documents with a pen?

Jonathan,
unfortunatly to purely answer your question. No, you can't.
Though, what the MVP's have been saying is the way you write with a tablet
is with the Tablet Input Panel (TIP), which is a small (but expands) box
where you can write words, and full sentances, then hit insert, then write
some more. Honestly, it feels tedious with large documents, or anything that
is more than 3 sentances.

Also, unfortunatly, you're asking purely for word... which just doesnt
utilize any gestures or ability to edit easily, other than the same way with
a mouse and keyboard. And in this case the pen is the mouse, and then you
write in the TIP and insert the text.

I fully understand the affects of carple tunnel, only 20 and i have the
first signs. (yeah talk about somthing that sucks, when im 30 I wont be able
to type anymore.) Hence why i went to tablet also.

Before SP2 of XP (or as the tablet community calls it Tablet Edition 2005),
there was a nifty feature of the TIP... you could write anywhere on the
screen, without having to worry about writing in the small box. Hopefully
this feature will come back. I check for updates everyday hoping that
something good will come out for tablet xp.

I hope my answers made it a little more clear.

PS. these newsgroups are community help based, meaning I have no affiliation
with Microsoft and i can still respond to your post... So getting people to
say "oh you should be able to do that" isnt uncommon with people who didn't
write the code to the software.

-James



"Jonathan Sachs" <llm040903@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:gun041tmg0hrqka7aota0e9dhb3nl1e6q7@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:29:30 -0800, "Chris H." wrote:
>
>>You won't find exactly what you want...
>>However, for removing a word, a double-tap with your pen will select it,
>>then a right-click or holding the pen tip to the screen for a right-click
>>menu will allow you to use Delete. As for inserting a word, you just
>>place
>>your cursor where you want to insert the word then use the TIP floating
>>icon
>>(Tablet Input Panel Access icon) to write the new word.

>
> Thanks for providing part of an answer to my question. I hope we can
> answer it completely if we focus on what I said in the OP: "the
> important thing is the ability to make changes to typed document
> content with the pen."
>
> Bear in mind that routine editing operations require all sorts of
> changes to text, such as: inserting, deleting or replacing individual
> letters or sequences of letters to correct misspellings; inserting,
> deleting or replacing single words or small groups of words; inserting
> or deleting larger pieces of text in paragraphs, or entire paragraphs;
> changing letters or words from lower case to capitalized and vice
> versa; setting styles; turning boldface and italics on and off; and so
> forth.
>
> I tried to clarify my original inquiry with a couple of specific
> statements about inserting and deleting "text." You responded by
> telling me how I could insert or delete "a word."
>
> Were you using "a word" as a synonym for "text"? Or does "a word"
> literally mean "a word," so that to insert a four-word phrase I would
> have to perform an "insert word" operation four times? What about
> other common editing operations? Are they implemented with distinct
> commands (or not at all), or does insert/delete work the same way no
> matter what the unit(s) of text?
>
> My email address is llm040903 at earthlink dot net.



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Old 03-22-2005, 03:17 PM
Jonathan Sachs
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Re: Editing Word documents with a pen?

Thank you, Chris and James, for your input. Chris, what you said about
editing things (deleting, formatting, etc.) makes perfect sense, and
confirms my assumptions. Your description of the TIP, and of how to
change text, is much less clear.

You said that one selects text, opens the TIP, and modifies the text.
So far so good, but you have only explained WHERE one modifies text
(in the TIP), not HOW.

Let's take a realistic example. Suppose I wrote "Any sale, lease, or
other transfer," and I now want to change it to, "All sales, leases,
exchanges, or other transfers." How do I do this?

If I were using "nice" editing software (with the TIP a given) I
could:

1. Select the sentence with a pen, moving it to the TIP.
2. Scratch out (or select) "Any" and replace it by writing "All."
3. Point after "sale" and write an 's'.
4. Point after "lease" and write an 's' and a comma.
5. Point after the comma and write ' exchanges' and a comma.
6. Point after "transfer" and write an 's'.
7. Reinsert the contents of the TIP in the text.

Now, doing the work this way seems to require elementary editing
gestures which you've implied do not exist. How, then, is it done? I'm
trying to imagine some design that does not force me to either delete
and rewrite the whole thing, or select, edit and reinsert each changed
word. I can think of several ways it MIGHT work, but none of them are
easy.

My email address is llm040903 at earthlink dot net.
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Old 03-22-2005, 03:18 PM
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Re: Editing Word documents with a pen?

In the Tablet Input Panel, you have three choices in this instance, to
change the text. In the Writing Pad, Character Pad or using the On-Screen
Keyboard. It is your choice. For your example, you could select the
sentence, then rewrite the whole thing, or:
- Select "Any" by double-tapping the word, then write "All" (without the
quotes) in the TIP. Insert.
- Tap the space immediately next to the end of "sale" and in the TIP write
"s". Insert.
- Tap the space immediately next to the end of "lease" and in the TIP write
"es". Insert.
- Drag/Select "exchanges, " right-click with your pen key or hold the pen to
the screen to achieve the right-click menu, select Cut.
- Tap the space immediately next to the end of "transfer" and in the TIP
write "s". Insert.

The selected text does not appear in the Tablet Input Panel. It is much
easier than you are thinking, once you actually work with the Tablet Input
Panel.
--
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/nichol.mspx
In memory of a true friend, Windows MVP Alex Nichol

Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"Jonathan Sachs" <llm040903@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Thank you, Chris and James, for your input. Chris, what you said about
> editing things (deleting, formatting, etc.) makes perfect sense, and
> confirms my assumptions. Your description of the TIP, and of how to
> change text, is much less clear.
>
> You said that one selects text, opens the TIP, and modifies the text.
> So far so good, but you have only explained WHERE one modifies text
> (in the TIP), not HOW.
>
> Let's take a realistic example. Suppose I wrote "Any sale, lease, or
> other transfer," and I now want to change it to, "All sales, leases,
> exchanges, or other transfers." How do I do this?
>
> If I were using "nice" editing software (with the TIP a given) I
> could:
>
> 1. Select the sentence with a pen, moving it to the TIP.
> 2. Scratch out (or select) "Any" and replace it by writing "All."
> 3. Point after "sale" and write an 's'.
> 4. Point after "lease" and write an 's' and a comma.
> 5. Point after the comma and write ' exchanges' and a comma.
> 6. Point after "transfer" and write an 's'.
> 7. Reinsert the contents of the TIP in the text.
>
> Now, doing the work this way seems to require elementary editing
> gestures which you've implied do not exist. How, then, is it done? I'm
> trying to imagine some design that does not force me to either delete
> and rewrite the whole thing, or select, edit and reinsert each changed
> word. I can think of several ways it MIGHT work, but none of them are
> easy.
>
> My email address is llm040903 at earthlink dot net.



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Old 03-22-2005, 06:15 PM
Jonathan Sachs
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Re: Editing Word documents with a pen?

On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:11:30 -0800, "Chris H." <winxpnews********.com>
wrote:

>- Select "Any" by double-tapping the word, then write "All" (without the
>quotes) in the TIP. Insert.
>- Tap the space immediately next to the end of "sale" and in the TIP write
>"s". Insert....


That sounds essentially like one of my two "couldn't be this bad"
scenarios. I think I will have to find a way to try it to see how it
works in practice.

My email address is llm040903 at earthlink dot net.
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Old 03-22-2005, 06:15 PM
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Re: Editing Word documents with a pen?

The TIP basically works like a keyboard.
you handwrite "I like pizza" in the TIP
it acts as if it typed it in key for key.

So if you had a sentance in a document, you'd have to select whats wrong,
and rewrite it correctly. (Assuming the TIP recognizes your handwriting well
and doesnt make any mistakes...)

So lets say you have a sentance on the page, and it says something wrong in
it.

I Like Piezza

Now you have to select the "L" in Like (as you would with a mouse, but you'd
use the pen), the TIP popup shows, you hover over the popup, and handwrite
in "l", and hit insert. now it looks like

I like Piezza

Now you select the whole word "Piezza", and hover over the popup, and
handwrite in "pizza.", then click insert.

I like pizza.

Now lets change the sentance, insert the cursor right after "I" (same way if
you were using a mouse), click the popup, and write in "'d", hit insert, and
now its.

I'd like pizza.

Insert the cursor right before pizza, and hover over the popup and write
"some". this'll automatically assumea space after "some", and hold the space
after "like".

I'd like some pizza.

At first working with the TIP can get confusing, and frustraiting... but
after a while you do get used to it.
You also can go into keyboard mode in the TIP, which is just like doing
"hunt and peck" (people who don't know how to type do this with at least two
fingers), but with one pen.

If you make a mistake in the TIP you can use the gesture for scratch out. If
you need to use the backspace and you've got the tip open, the backspace
gesture is one swift stroke from the right to the left.

I thin Jonathan you have a great idea, maybe a great addin for word, or
powertoy, something that can understand correction marks.
I know some people I'll see what they think of making a tool or program like
that.

I will let this newsgroup also know what happens. I also frequent
www.tabletpcbuzz.com

-James


"Jonathan Sachs" <llm040903@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:5d6141tir196h6pgn5tb9a233kpvvt8ruk@4ax.com...
> Thank you, Chris and James, for your input. Chris, what you said about
> editing things (deleting, formatting, etc.) makes perfect sense, and
> confirms my assumptions. Your description of the TIP, and of how to
> change text, is much less clear.
>
> You said that one selects text, opens the TIP, and modifies the text.
> So far so good, but you have only explained WHERE one modifies text
> (in the TIP), not HOW.
>
> Let's take a realistic example. Suppose I wrote "Any sale, lease, or
> other transfer," and I now want to change it to, "All sales, leases,
> exchanges, or other transfers." How do I do this?
>
> If I were using "nice" editing software (with the TIP a given) I
> could:
>
> 1. Select the sentence with a pen, moving it to the TIP.
> 2. Scratch out (or select) "Any" and replace it by writing "All."
> 3. Point after "sale" and write an 's'.
> 4. Point after "lease" and write an 's' and a comma.
> 5. Point after the comma and write ' exchanges' and a comma.
> 6. Point after "transfer" and write an 's'.
> 7. Reinsert the contents of the TIP in the text.
>
> Now, doing the work this way seems to require elementary editing
> gestures which you've implied do not exist. How, then, is it done? I'm
> trying to imagine some design that does not force me to either delete
> and rewrite the whole thing, or select, edit and reinsert each changed
> word. I can think of several ways it MIGHT work, but none of them are
> easy.
>
> My email address is llm040903 at earthlink dot net.



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Re: Editing Word documents with a pen?

I think you're seeing dark clouds when there's a rainbow to view, Jonathan.
8-) It really is fairly easy to use, and I don't believe as complicated as
you're imagining. It might help you if you read some of Jeff West's columns
about using the Tablet Input Panel on the Expert Zone:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...s/archive.mspx And
there's a support WebCast from Jeff here:
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;888888 about using
the Tablet Input Panel. There's also a very nice video (45 minutes) about
the use of the OneNote program which is quite informative and will also give
you a glimpse of pen usage:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/as...423061033.aspx
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"Jonathan Sachs" <llm040903@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:11:30 -0800, "Chris H." <winxpnews********.com>
> wrote:
>
>>- Select "Any" by double-tapping the word, then write "All" (without the
>>quotes) in the TIP. Insert.
>>- Tap the space immediately next to the end of "sale" and in the TIP write
>>"s". Insert....

>
> That sounds essentially like one of my two "couldn't be this bad"
> scenarios. I think I will have to find a way to try it to see how it
> works in practice.
>
> My email address is llm040903 at earthlink dot net.



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Old 03-23-2005, 04:17 AM
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Op Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:42:52 -0800 schreef Chris H.:

> I think you're seeing dark clouds when there's a rainbow to view, Jonathan.
> 8-) It really is fairly easy to use, and I don't believe as complicated as
> you're imagining. It might help you if you read some of Jeff West's columns
> about using the Tablet Input Panel on the Expert Zone:
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...s/archive.mspx And
> there's a support WebCast from Jeff here:
> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;888888 about using
> the Tablet Input Panel. There's also a very nice video (45 minutes) about
> the use of the OneNote program which is quite informative and will also give
> you a glimpse of pen usage:
> http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/as...423061033.aspx


Maybe Pen Office would be a useful addition. It's a handwriting recognition
program that allows you to write on the screen and use correction gestures.
It works ideally on a tablet pc, but also works very well on a desktop with
graphic input tablet.

Information about Pen Office: http://www.phatware.com/penoffice/index.html
Basic writing and correction in Word using Pen Office:
http://www.phatware.com/doc/qsg26/qsg3.html


greetings,
Jessica
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On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:42:52 -0800, "Chris H." <winxpnews********.com>
wrote:

>I think you're seeing dark clouds when there's a rainbow to view, Jonathan....


That may be an occupational hazard for me. As a former programmer and
law student, I am accustomed to the idea that if something requires my
attention, it is already a problem! But I have learned to approach new
technology very cautiously through a lifetime of dealing with it.

My email address is llm040903 at earthlink dot net.
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Old 03-23-2005, 06:19 AM
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On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 12:43:47 +0100, Jessica wrote:

>Maybe Pen Office would be a useful addition. It's a handwriting recognition
>program that allows you to write on the screen and use correction gestures....


Perhaps. I looked at their web site but couldn't find any specifics
about editing features. (It says "fully supports Microsoft Word," but
it seems to be talking about document markup rather than editing.)

In any case it's cheap enough to buy as an experiment. Maybe I will
follow my original plan of buying a graphics tablet for my desktop
computer, along with a copy of Pen Office, to see what it does. It
will have to wait a few months, though, until I have time to mess
around with a couple of new gadgets that may or may not turn out to be
useful.

My email address is llm040903 at earthlink dot net.
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