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Old 03-21-2005, 01:19 PM
billj
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Tablet Input Panel missing for logon

* Have Motion Computing 1400 running XP Tablet SP2 - great product
* TIP (Tablet Input Panel) works perfectly after logon
* TIP is not available for entering of password to logon after system
restart; a physically attached keyboard is required

What exactly is the registry setting to make the TIP available for logon
password entry at system restart or when switching user accounts? THX FOR
YOUR HELP

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Old 03-21-2005, 03:20 PM
Chris H.
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Re: Tablet Input Panel missing for logon

The TIP showing at a logon screen should automatically be displaying if the
account to which your logging on requires it. Have you specifically checked
your account's properties in Control Panel/User Accounts? What happens if
you set the account to no logon required, restart the system and then change
it to requiring a logon?
--
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In memory of a true friend, Windows MVP Alex Nichol

Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"billj" <billj@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1859AFA0-2DC4-4B67-9C77-6D83A6BF7EFB@microsoft.com...
>* Have Motion Computing 1400 running XP Tablet SP2 - great product
> * TIP (Tablet Input Panel) works perfectly after logon
> * TIP is not available for entering of password to logon after system
> restart; a physically attached keyboard is required
>
> What exactly is the registry setting to make the TIP available for logon
> password entry at system restart or when switching user accounts? THX FOR
> YOUR HELP
>



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Old 03-21-2005, 04:15 PM
billj
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Re: Tablet Input Panel missing for logon

Good suggestion, but no success. I tries every combo I could think of:

1) Created new acct with/without password
2) Changed acct for password and no password
3) Deleted all accounts except administrator and tries password and no
password

Did 1, 2, and 3 above by logoff/logon, switch users, O/S restart, and cold
shutdown and turn on. Nothing worked. I strongly believe I zapped a needed
registry setting, but don't know what it was, since it had worked properly
before. Perhaps, a setting in
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Run ???

Tsank for your helps. This is a strange one.

"Chris H." wrote:

> The TIP showing at a logon screen should automatically be displaying if the
> account to which your logging on requires it. Have you specifically checked
> your account's properties in Control Panel/User Accounts? What happens if
> you set the account to no logon required, restart the system and then change
> it to requiring a logon?
> --
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/nichol.mspx
> In memory of a true friend, Windows MVP Alex Nichol
>
> Chris H.
> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> Associate Expert
> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>
>
> "billj" <billj@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:1859AFA0-2DC4-4B67-9C77-6D83A6BF7EFB@microsoft.com...
> >* Have Motion Computing 1400 running XP Tablet SP2 - great product
> > * TIP (Tablet Input Panel) works perfectly after logon
> > * TIP is not available for entering of password to logon after system
> > restart; a physically attached keyboard is required
> >
> > What exactly is the registry setting to make the TIP available for logon
> > password entry at system restart or when switching user accounts? THX FOR
> > YOUR HELP
> >

>
>
>

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Old 03-21-2005, 04:15 PM
Chris H.
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Re: Tablet Input Panel missing for logon

The Registry key is found in
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\TabletTip\Lo ginKeyboard, in the folder
under that which is very long number. The data value there
(HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\TabletTip\L oginKeyboard\{VeryLongNumber}
should be: "SoftKeyboard.ini|KbcResources.dll|2752|17490|Logi n" - without
the quotes.

Make sure you back up the Registry before editing, and then after inserting
the data value close out Regedit and restart your system.

WARNING: If you don't know how to edit the Registry, DO NOT attempt to do
so.
--
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/nichol.mspx
In memory of a true friend, Windows MVP Alex Nichol

Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone



"billj" <billj@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:5D9D33F8-74CB-47B7-AF65-9C1A5FD0704A@microsoft.com...
> Good suggestion, but no success. I tries every combo I could think of:
>
> 1) Created new acct with/without password
> 2) Changed acct for password and no password
> 3) Deleted all accounts except administrator and tries password and no
> password
>
> Did 1, 2, and 3 above by logoff/logon, switch users, O/S restart, and cold
> shutdown and turn on. Nothing worked. I strongly believe I zapped a
> needed
> registry setting, but don't know what it was, since it had worked properly
> before. Perhaps, a setting in
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Run ???
>
> Tsank for your helps. This is a strange one.
>
> "Chris H." wrote:
>
>> The TIP showing at a logon screen should automatically be displaying if
>> the
>> account to which your logging on requires it. Have you specifically
>> checked
>> your account's properties in Control Panel/User Accounts? What happens
>> if
>> you set the account to no logon required, restart the system and then
>> change
>> it to requiring a logon?
>> --
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/nichol.mspx
>> In memory of a true friend, Windows MVP Alex Nichol
>>
>> Chris H.
>> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
>> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
>> Associate Expert
>> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>
>>
>> "billj" <billj@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:1859AFA0-2DC4-4B67-9C77-6D83A6BF7EFB@microsoft.com...
>> >* Have Motion Computing 1400 running XP Tablet SP2 - great product
>> > * TIP (Tablet Input Panel) works perfectly after logon
>> > * TIP is not available for entering of password to logon after system
>> > restart; a physically attached keyboard is required
>> >
>> > What exactly is the registry setting to make the TIP available for
>> > logon
>> > password entry at system restart or when switching user accounts? THX
>> > FOR
>> > YOUR HELP
>> >

>>
>>
>>



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Old 03-21-2005, 05:18 PM
billj
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Re: Tablet Input Panel missing for logon

The Default value for the applicable "VeryLongNumber" is already what you
specified. Should I comment it out, reboot, then put back in, reboot again,
and see if that cycles the login kbd back into operation? Thanks Chris.

"Chris H." wrote:

> The Registry key is found in
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\TabletTip\Lo ginKeyboard, in the folder
> under that which is very long number. The data value there
> (HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\TabletTip\L oginKeyboard\{VeryLongNumber}
> should be: "SoftKeyboard.ini|KbcResources.dll|2752|17490|Logi n" - without
> the quotes.
>
> Make sure you back up the Registry before editing, and then after inserting
> the data value close out Regedit and restart your system.
>
> WARNING: If you don't know how to edit the Registry, DO NOT attempt to do
> so.
> --
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/nichol.mspx
> In memory of a true friend, Windows MVP Alex Nichol
>
> Chris H.
> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> Associate Expert
> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>
>
>
> "billj" <billj@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:5D9D33F8-74CB-47B7-AF65-9C1A5FD0704A@microsoft.com...
> > Good suggestion, but no success. I tries every combo I could think of:
> >
> > 1) Created new acct with/without password
> > 2) Changed acct for password and no password
> > 3) Deleted all accounts except administrator and tries password and no
> > password
> >
> > Did 1, 2, and 3 above by logoff/logon, switch users, O/S restart, and cold
> > shutdown and turn on. Nothing worked. I strongly believe I zapped a
> > needed
> > registry setting, but don't know what it was, since it had worked properly
> > before. Perhaps, a setting in
> > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Run ???
> >
> > Tsank for your helps. This is a strange one.
> >
> > "Chris H." wrote:
> >
> >> The TIP showing at a logon screen should automatically be displaying if
> >> the
> >> account to which your logging on requires it. Have you specifically
> >> checked
> >> your account's properties in Control Panel/User Accounts? What happens
> >> if
> >> you set the account to no logon required, restart the system and then
> >> change
> >> it to requiring a logon?
> >> --
> >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/nichol.mspx
> >> In memory of a true friend, Windows MVP Alex Nichol
> >>
> >> Chris H.
> >> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
> >> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> >> Associate Expert
> >> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> >>
> >>
> >> "billj" <billj@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1859AFA0-2DC4-4B67-9C77-6D83A6BF7EFB@microsoft.com...
> >> >* Have Motion Computing 1400 running XP Tablet SP2 - great product
> >> > * TIP (Tablet Input Panel) works perfectly after logon
> >> > * TIP is not available for entering of password to logon after system
> >> > restart; a physically attached keyboard is required
> >> >
> >> > What exactly is the registry setting to make the TIP available for
> >> > logon
> >> > password entry at system restart or when switching user accounts? THX
> >> > FOR
> >> > YOUR HELP
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>

>
>
>

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Old 03-21-2005, 05:18 PM
James Gockel
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Re: Tablet Input Panel missing for logon

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\TabletTip\Lo ginKeyboard]

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\TabletTip\Lo ginKeyboard\{69BEE631-7339-4dca-96EF-2E4BD92AAFF8}]
@="SoftKeyboard.ini|KbcResources.dll|2752|17490|Lo gin"

Thats the reg export that i got. Your string of hex characters may be
different, but there are other strings around TabletTip branch that are the
same as the one that should be used.

-James

"billj" <billj@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1859AFA0-2DC4-4B67-9C77-6D83A6BF7EFB@microsoft.com...
>* Have Motion Computing 1400 running XP Tablet SP2 - great product
> * TIP (Tablet Input Panel) works perfectly after logon
> * TIP is not available for entering of password to logon after system
> restart; a physically attached keyboard is required
>
> What exactly is the registry setting to make the TIP available for logon
> password entry at system restart or when switching user accounts? THX FOR
> YOUR HELP
>



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Old 03-21-2005, 05:18 PM
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Re: Tablet Input Panel missing for logon

You have a Motion, James?
--
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/nichol.mspx
In memory of a true friend, Windows MVP Alex Nichol

Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"James Gockel" <flibbertigibbet007_at_hotmail_dot_com> wrote in message
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> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\TabletTip\Lo ginKeyboard]
>
> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\TabletTip\Lo ginKeyboard\{69BEE631-7339-4dca-96EF-2E4BD92AAFF8}]
> @="SoftKeyboard.ini|KbcResources.dll|2752|17490|Lo gin"
>
> Thats the reg export that i got. Your string of hex characters may be
> different, but there are other strings around TabletTip branch that are
> the same as the one that should be used.
>
> -James
>
> "billj" <billj@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:1859AFA0-2DC4-4B67-9C77-6D83A6BF7EFB@microsoft.com...
>>* Have Motion Computing 1400 running XP Tablet SP2 - great product
>> * TIP (Tablet Input Panel) works perfectly after logon
>> * TIP is not available for entering of password to logon after system
>> restart; a physically attached keyboard is required
>>
>> What exactly is the registry setting to make the TIP available for logon
>> password entry at system restart or when switching user accounts? THX
>> FOR
>> YOUR HELP
>>

>
>



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Old 03-21-2005, 05:18 PM
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Re: Tablet Input Panel missing for logon

I bounced the machine after commenting the (apparently correct) string out,
then bounced it again after editing back to the original (apparently good)
form in the registry. Still no success. Assuming that registry entry
invokes the kbcresources.dll (which I verified is on the machine in the Ink
dir), could there be a problem in the line referenced SoftKeyboard.ini file?
I didn't see anything in that .ini file which jumps out at me for pop-up of
the kbd at login time. What else needs to be in place to get the login kibd
to pop-up? Thanks

"James Gockel" wrote:

> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\TabletTip\Lo ginKeyboard]
>
> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\TabletTip\Lo ginKeyboard\{69BEE631-7339-4dca-96EF-2E4BD92AAFF8}]
> @="SoftKeyboard.ini|KbcResources.dll|2752|17490|Lo gin"
>
> Thats the reg export that i got. Your string of hex characters may be
> different, but there are other strings around TabletTip branch that are the
> same as the one that should be used.
>
> -James
>
> "billj" <billj@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:1859AFA0-2DC4-4B67-9C77-6D83A6BF7EFB@microsoft.com...
> >* Have Motion Computing 1400 running XP Tablet SP2 - great product
> > * TIP (Tablet Input Panel) works perfectly after logon
> > * TIP is not available for entering of password to logon after system
> > restart; a physically attached keyboard is required
> >
> > What exactly is the registry setting to make the TIP available for logon
> > password entry at system restart or when switching user accounts? THX FOR
> > YOUR HELP
> >

>
>
>

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Old 03-21-2005, 06:19 PM
Chris H.
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Re: Tablet Input Panel missing for logon

Please don't change this line just arbitrarily. I am quoting from my
Motion, which differs from what James posted. I've zipped the
softkeyboard.ini file from the Motion for you to compare with your
softkeyboard.ini file (the file inside the zip is a .txt file, but make sure
to run your anti-virus software against it before opening). Hopefully that
will lead to some change. 8-) If not, I would suggest you contact Motion's
support on their toll-free number and see what they've got to say.
--
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/nichol.mspx
In memory of a true friend, Windows MVP Alex Nichol

Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"billj" <billj@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:89703C0E-5AA4-4B1C-BBF4-174D454F1871@microsoft.com...
>I bounced the machine after commenting the (apparently correct) string out,
> then bounced it again after editing back to the original (apparently good)
> form in the registry. Still no success. Assuming that registry entry
> invokes the kbcresources.dll (which I verified is on the machine in the
> Ink
> dir), could there be a problem in the line referenced SoftKeyboard.ini
> file?
> I didn't see anything in that .ini file which jumps out at me for pop-up
> of
> the kbd at login time. What else needs to be in place to get the login
> kibd
> to pop-up? Thanks
>
> "James Gockel" wrote:
>
>> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\TabletTip\Lo ginKeyboard]
>>
>> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\TabletTip\Lo ginKeyboard\{69BEE631-7339-4dca-96EF-2E4BD92AAFF8}]
>> @="SoftKeyboard.ini|KbcResources.dll|2752|17490|Lo gin"
>>
>> Thats the reg export that i got. Your string of hex characters may be
>> different, but there are other strings around TabletTip branch that are
>> the
>> same as the one that should be used.
>>
>> -James
>>
>> "billj" <billj@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:1859AFA0-2DC4-4B67-9C77-6D83A6BF7EFB@microsoft.com...
>> >* Have Motion Computing 1400 running XP Tablet SP2 - great product
>> > * TIP (Tablet Input Panel) works perfectly after logon
>> > * TIP is not available for entering of password to logon after system
>> > restart; a physically attached keyboard is required
>> >
>> > What exactly is the registry setting to make the TIP available for
>> > logon
>> > password entry at system restart or when switching user accounts? THX
>> > FOR
>> > YOUR HELP
>> >

>>
>>
>>





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Old 03-21-2005, 06:19 PM
James Gockel
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Re: Tablet Input Panel missing for logon

No, I have a gateway. I just assumed because it is all Windows XP Tablet...
but I suppose each one is different.
But it was still a try, and maybe the one you gave chris should work.
-James

"Chris H." <winxpnews********.com> wrote in message
news:%237rz%232nLFHA.244@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Please don't change this line just arbitrarily. I am quoting from my
> Motion, which differs from what James posted. I've zipped the
> softkeyboard.ini file from the Motion for you to compare with your
> softkeyboard.ini file (the file inside the zip is a .txt file, but make
> sure to run your anti-virus software against it before opening).
> Hopefully that will lead to some change. 8-) If not, I would suggest you
> contact Motion's support on their toll-free number and see what they've
> got to say.
> --
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/nichol.mspx
> In memory of a true friend, Windows MVP Alex Nichol
>
> Chris H.
> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> Associate Expert
> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>
>
> "billj" <billj@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:89703C0E-5AA4-4B1C-BBF4-174D454F1871@microsoft.com...
>>I bounced the machine after commenting the (apparently correct) string
>>out,
>> then bounced it again after editing back to the original (apparently
>> good)
>> form in the registry. Still no success. Assuming that registry entry
>> invokes the kbcresources.dll (which I verified is on the machine in the
>> Ink
>> dir), could there be a problem in the line referenced SoftKeyboard.ini
>> file?
>> I didn't see anything in that .ini file which jumps out at me for pop-up
>> of
>> the kbd at login time. What else needs to be in place to get the login
>> kibd
>> to pop-up? Thanks
>>
>> "James Gockel" wrote:
>>
>>> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\TabletTip\Lo ginKeyboard]
>>>
>>> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\TabletTip\Lo ginKeyboard\{69BEE631-7339-4dca-96EF-2E4BD92AAFF8}]
>>> @="SoftKeyboard.ini|KbcResources.dll|2752|17490|Lo gin"
>>>
>>> Thats the reg export that i got. Your string of hex characters may be
>>> different, but there are other strings around TabletTip branch that are
>>> the
>>> same as the one that should be used.
>>>
>>> -James
>>>
>>> "billj" <billj@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1859AFA0-2DC4-4B67-9C77-6D83A6BF7EFB@microsoft.com...
>>> >* Have Motion Computing 1400 running XP Tablet SP2 - great product
>>> > * TIP (Tablet Input Panel) works perfectly after logon
>>> > * TIP is not available for entering of password to logon after system
>>> > restart; a physically attached keyboard is required
>>> >
>>> > What exactly is the registry setting to make the TIP available for
>>> > logon
>>> > password entry at system restart or when switching user accounts? THX
>>> > FOR
>>> > YOUR HELP
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>

>
>
>



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Old 03-21-2005, 06:19 PM
billj
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Re: Tablet Input Panel missing for logon

Have been in contact with Motion. Have spent many hours scanning Microsoft
support and knowledge DB, the www with your name (Chris) coming to the top as
being most helpful on forums such as these. Also, have many years of expert
and development experience in most operating systems including Windows. The
background of this case is:

0) Motion 1400 Tablet worked great, including pop-up kbd at logon, until I
cleaned up an about:blank trojan.
1) Let kids use the tablet one day and they contracted the about:blank trojan.
2) Installed Windows Recovery Console (WRC), deleted the problem dll, then
cleaned up the registry manually.
3) Ran a few other tools like Hijack.exe to identify any other problems and
removed varous registry entries. Virus scanned the machine and blessed it
finally as being CLEAN without issues..
4) Subsequently, kbd was not showing at login anymore, and not sure when it
actually started occurring during my machine cleaning process. I thought I
must have removed a needed registry entry.
5) Uninstalled WRC, rebooted, and problem was not fixed.
6) Upgraded machine to SP2 from SP1, rebooted and still not fixed.
7) Upgraded SP2 with various security PTFs, rebooted and still not fixed.
8) Uninstalled Motion Computing dashboard, reinstalled later version,
rebooted and still not fixed.
9) Noticed "tablet s" entry was missing ... (tabtip was ok), so incorporated
that in Registry and validated was checked in system startup - per Chris H.
notes in other trhreads, still no success...
10) Was given a LEVEL 1 support answer to reinstall Windows from Motion
Computing, and realized how pathetic their support was, so resorted to
starting this thread. Can you imagine if someone told you to reinstall
Solaris, UNIX, or Linux??? Would never happen.
11) Scanned entire registry and Ink directory .ini files to look for
suspects with no success.
12) Have tried all suggestions and then some pertaining to this thread.

So, there is the backgorund. I would have kept track of what I did had I
known such an easy system remedy would have caused this issue. I also
cleaned up the backup directory which prevents me from restoring the system
to a previous state. Admittedly, there are steps I should have taken to do a
restore in case I screwed something up - which I did!

Chris, how do I get to your attachment?

Anyone have a Microsoft contact to get this remedied? It has to be
something simple. I'll escalate through Motion to Microsoft and will post any
success.

Thanks for all your time!



"Chris H." wrote:

> Please don't change this line just arbitrarily. I am quoting from my
> Motion, which differs from what James posted. I've zipped the
> softkeyboard.ini file from the Motion for you to compare with your
> softkeyboard.ini file (the file inside the zip is a .txt file, but make sure
> to run your anti-virus software against it before opening). Hopefully that
> will lead to some change. 8-) If not, I would suggest you contact Motion's
> support on their toll-free number and see what they've got to say.
> --
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/nichol.mspx
> In memory of a true friend, Windows MVP Alex Nichol
>
> Chris H.
> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> Associate Expert
> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>
>
> "billj" <billj@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:89703C0E-5AA4-4B1C-BBF4-174D454F1871@microsoft.com...
> >I bounced the machine after commenting the (apparently correct) string out,
> > then bounced it again after editing back to the original (apparently good)
> > form in the registry. Still no success. Assuming that registry entry
> > invokes the kbcresources.dll (which I verified is on the machine in the
> > Ink
> > dir), could there be a problem in the line referenced SoftKeyboard.ini
> > file?
> > I didn't see anything in that .ini file which jumps out at me for pop-up
> > of
> > the kbd at login time. What else needs to be in place to get the login
> > kibd
> > to pop-up? Thanks
> >
> > "James Gockel" wrote:
> >
> >> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\TabletTip\Lo ginKeyboard]
> >>
> >> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\TabletTip\Lo ginKeyboard\{69BEE631-7339-4dca-96EF-2E4BD92AAFF8}]
> >> @="SoftKeyboard.ini|KbcResources.dll|2752|17490|Lo gin"
> >>
> >> Thats the reg export that i got. Your string of hex characters may be
> >> different, but there are other strings around TabletTip branch that are
> >> the
> >> same as the one that should be used.
> >>
> >> -James
> >>
> >> "billj" <billj@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1859AFA0-2DC4-4B67-9C77-6D83A6BF7EFB@microsoft.com...
> >> >* Have Motion Computing 1400 running XP Tablet SP2 - great product
> >> > * TIP (Tablet Input Panel) works perfectly after logon
> >> > * TIP is not available for entering of password to logon after system
> >> > restart; a physically attached keyboard is required
> >> >
> >> > What exactly is the registry setting to make the TIP available for
> >> > logon
> >> > password entry at system restart or when switching user accounts? THX
> >> > FOR
> >> > YOUR HELP
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>

>
>
>

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Old 03-21-2005, 08:18 PM
Chris H.
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Re: Tablet Input Panel missing for logon

The OEM, in this case Motion, is responsible for support, not Microsoft.
8-) Which is one of the reasons I'm here volunteering my time, because
neither provides adequately for users. I'm going to need to spend some time
digging into some things before I can figure this out.

In the meantime, since you're saying you upgraded to XP SP2 in this process
attempting to fix the issue, I would use uninstall in Add or Remove Programs
to get back to the basic configuration (even though it was broken at that
point). Or, if you have a Restore Point going back to when you did that
install, use that.

The problem is an upgrade with a Service Pack won't fix any existing
problems, and probably will only compound them. I would also suggest, since
you've apparently had problems with spyware/malware/Trojans or other
parasites, that you take a look at the information here:
www.aumha.org/secure.htm and try some of those free programs to further
verify that your system is clean.

I'm afraid that Motion's suggestion to wipe the hard drive with a fresh
installation may be the best thing overall. But don't do that right away
while I'm checking on things for you.
--
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/nichol.mspx
In memory of a true friend, Windows MVP Alex Nichol

Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"billj" <billj@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:21A3E8E6-59D5-48C8-9F36-950CBA5ACBA8@microsoft.com...
> Have been in contact with Motion. Have spent many hours scanning Microsoft
> support and knowledge DB, the www with your name (Chris) coming to the top
> as
> being most helpful on forums such as these. Also, have many years of
> expert
> and development experience in most operating systems including Windows.
> The
> background of this case is:
>
> 0) Motion 1400 Tablet worked great, including pop-up kbd at logon, until I
> cleaned up an about:blank trojan.
> 1) Let kids use the tablet one day and they contracted the about:blank
> trojan.
> 2) Installed Windows Recovery Console (WRC), deleted the problem dll, then
> cleaned up the registry manually.
> 3) Ran a few other tools like Hijack.exe to identify any other problems
> and
> removed varous registry entries. Virus scanned the machine and blessed it
> finally as being CLEAN without issues..
> 4) Subsequently, kbd was not showing at login anymore, and not sure when
> it
> actually started occurring during my machine cleaning process. I thought
> I
> must have removed a needed registry entry.
> 5) Uninstalled WRC, rebooted, and problem was not fixed.
> 6) Upgraded machine to SP2 from SP1, rebooted and still not fixed.
> 7) Upgraded SP2 with various security PTFs, rebooted and still not fixed.
> 8) Uninstalled Motion Computing dashboard, reinstalled later version,
> rebooted and still not fixed.
> 9) Noticed "tablet s" entry was missing ... (tabtip was ok), so
> incorporated
> that in Registry and validated was checked in system startup - per Chris
> H.
> notes in other trhreads, still no success...
> 10) Was given a LEVEL 1 support answer to reinstall Windows from Motion
> Computing, and realized how pathetic their support was, so resorted to
> starting this thread. Can you imagine if someone told you to reinstall
> Solaris, UNIX, or Linux??? Would never happen.
> 11) Scanned entire registry and Ink directory .ini files to look for
> suspects with no success.
> 12) Have tried all suggestions and then some pertaining to this thread.
>
> So, there is the backgorund. I would have kept track of what I did had I
> known such an easy system remedy would have caused this issue. I also
> cleaned up the backup directory which prevents me from restoring the
> system
> to a previous state. Admittedly, there are steps I should have taken to
> do a
> restore in case I screwed something up - which I did!
>
> Chris, how do I get to your attachment?
>
> Anyone have a Microsoft contact to get this remedied? It has to be
> something simple. I'll escalate through Motion to Microsoft and will post
> any
> success.
>
> Thanks for all your time!
>
>
>
> "Chris H." wrote:
>
>> Please don't change this line just arbitrarily. I am quoting from my
>> Motion, which differs from what James posted. I've zipped the
>> softkeyboard.ini file from the Motion for you to compare with your
>> softkeyboard.ini file (the file inside the zip is a .txt file, but make
>> sure
>> to run your anti-virus software against it before opening). Hopefully
>> that
>> will lead to some change. 8-) If not, I would suggest you contact
>> Motion's
>> support on their toll-free number and see what they've got to say.
>> --
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/nichol.mspx
>> In memory of a true friend, Windows MVP Alex Nichol
>>
>> Chris H.
>> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
>> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
>> Associate Expert
>> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>
>>
>> "billj" <billj@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:89703C0E-5AA4-4B1C-BBF4-174D454F1871@microsoft.com...
>> >I bounced the machine after commenting the (apparently correct) string
>> >out,
>> > then bounced it again after editing back to the original (apparently
>> > good)
>> > form in the registry. Still no success. Assuming that registry entry
>> > invokes the kbcresources.dll (which I verified is on the machine in the
>> > Ink
>> > dir), could there be a problem in the line referenced SoftKeyboard.ini
>> > file?
>> > I didn't see anything in that .ini file which jumps out at me for
>> > pop-up
>> > of
>> > the kbd at login time. What else needs to be in place to get the login
>> > kibd
>> > to pop-up? Thanks
>> >
>> > "James Gockel" wrote:
>> >
>> >> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\TabletTip\Lo ginKeyboard]
>> >>
>> >> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\TabletTip\Lo ginKeyboard\{69BEE631-7339-4dca-96EF-2E4BD92AAFF8}]
>> >> @="SoftKeyboard.ini|KbcResources.dll|2752|17490|Lo gin"
>> >>
>> >> Thats the reg export that i got. Your string of hex characters may be
>> >> different, but there are other strings around TabletTip branch that
>> >> are
>> >> the
>> >> same as the one that should be used.
>> >>
>> >> -James
>> >>
>> >> "billj" <billj@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:1859AFA0-2DC4-4B67-9C77-6D83A6BF7EFB@microsoft.com...
>> >> >* Have Motion Computing 1400 running XP Tablet SP2 - great product
>> >> > * TIP (Tablet Input Panel) works perfectly after logon
>> >> > * TIP is not available for entering of password to logon after
>> >> > system
>> >> > restart; a physically attached keyboard is required
>> >> >
>> >> > What exactly is the registry setting to make the TIP available for
>> >> > logon
>> >> > password entry at system restart or when switching user accounts?
>> >> > THX
>> >> > FOR
>> >> > YOUR HELP
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>

>>
>>
>>



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Old 03-21-2005, 08:18 PM
Chris H.
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Posts: n/a
Re: Tablet Input Panel missing for logon

Oh, and I forgot to answer your question. You're using the web-based
newsgroup interface, and that doesn't allow attachments. You would need to
use a regular news reader (like Outlook Express, which comes with Windows
XP) and connect via the msnews.microsoft.com news server.

By setting up a News account in OE, you would be able to access all
Microsoft's newsgroups directly. There's no logon, no password and it is
free. Use OE's Help if you don't know how to set up a news account, and
it'll guide you through it. Once you subscribe to the
microsoft.public.windows.tabletpc newsgroup, you'll be able to download all
the messages. OE, as a protective security measure, doesn't allow
attachments to be viewed or downloaded, but you could turn that off for a
moment once you find this thread.

You would just go to Tools/Options/Security tab, and then remove the check
mark from "Do not allow attachments . . ." As soon as you've save the
attachment, you can turn that back on. Since I posted it in .zip form, you
first run your AV program against it to verify it is clean, then simply tap
the *.zip file where you saved it, and use XP's built-in compressed folder
mechanism to extract the text file.
--
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/nichol.mspx
In memory of a true friend, Windows MVP Alex Nichol

Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"billj" <billj@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:21A3E8E6-59D5-48C8-9F36-950CBA5ACBA8@microsoft.com...
> Have been in contact with Motion. Have spent many hours scanning Microsoft
> support and knowledge DB, the www with your name (Chris) coming to the top
> as
> being most helpful on forums such as these. Also, have many years of
> expert
> and development experience in most operating systems including Windows.
> The
> background of this case is:
>
> 0) Motion 1400 Tablet worked great, including pop-up kbd at logon, until I
> cleaned up an about:blank trojan.
> 1) Let kids use the tablet one day and they contracted the about:blank
> trojan.
> 2) Installed Windows Recovery Console (WRC), deleted the problem dll, then
> cleaned up the registry manually.
> 3) Ran a few other tools like Hijack.exe to identify any other problems
> and
> removed varous registry entries. Virus scanned the machine and blessed it
> finally as being CLEAN without issues..
> 4) Subsequently, kbd was not showing at login anymore, and not sure when
> it
> actually started occurring during my machine cleaning process. I thought
> I
> must have removed a needed registry entry.
> 5) Uninstalled WRC, rebooted, and problem was not fixed.
> 6) Upgraded machine to SP2 from SP1, rebooted and still not fixed.
> 7) Upgraded SP2 with various security PTFs, rebooted and still not fixed.
> 8) Uninstalled Motion Computing dashboard, reinstalled later version,
> rebooted and still not fixed.
> 9) Noticed "tablet s" entry was missing ... (tabtip was ok), so
> incorporated
> that in Registry and validated was checked in system startup - per Chris
> H.
> notes in other trhreads, still no success...
> 10) Was given a LEVEL 1 support answer to reinstall Windows from Motion
> Computing, and realized how pathetic their support was, so resorted to
> starting this thread. Can you imagine if someone told you to reinstall
> Solaris, UNIX, or Linux??? Would never happen.
> 11) Scanned entire registry and Ink directory .ini files to look for
> suspects with no success.
> 12) Have tried all suggestions and then some pertaining to this thread.
>
> So, there is the backgorund. I would have kept track of what I did had I
> known such an easy system remedy would have caused this issue. I also
> cleaned up the backup directory which prevents me from restoring the
> system
> to a previous state. Admittedly, there are steps I should have taken to
> do a
> restore in case I screwed something up - which I did!
>
> Chris, how do I get to your attachment?
>
> Anyone have a Microsoft contact to get this remedied? It has to be
> something simple. I'll escalate through Motion to Microsoft and will post
> any
> success.
>
> Thanks for all your time!
>
>
>
> "Chris H." wrote:
>
>> Please don't change this line just arbitrarily. I am quoting from my
>> Motion, which differs from what James posted. I've zipped the
>> softkeyboard.ini file from the Motion for you to compare with your
>> softkeyboard.ini file (the file inside the zip is a .txt file, but make
>> sure
>> to run your anti-virus software against it before opening). Hopefully
>> that
>> will lead to some change. 8-) If not, I would suggest you contact
>> Motion's
>> support on their toll-free number and see what they've got to say.
>> --
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/nichol.mspx
>> In memory of a true friend, Windows MVP Alex Nichol
>>
>> Chris H.
>> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
>> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
>> Associate Expert
>> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>
>>
>> "billj" <billj@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:89703C0E-5AA4-4B1C-BBF4-174D454F1871@microsoft.com...
>> >I bounced the machine after commenting the (apparently correct) string
>> >out,
>> > then bounced it again after editing back to the original (apparently
>> > good)
>> > form in the registry. Still no success. Assuming that registry entry
>> > invokes the kbcresources.dll (which I verified is on the machine in the
>> > Ink
>> > dir), could there be a problem in the line referenced SoftKeyboard.ini
>> > file?
>> > I didn't see anything in that .ini file which jumps out at me for
>> > pop-up
>> > of
>> > the kbd at login time. What else needs to be in place to get the login
>> > kibd
>> > to pop-up? Thanks
>> >
>> > "James Gockel" wrote:
>> >
>> >> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\TabletTip\Lo ginKeyboard]
>> >>
>> >> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\TabletTip\Lo ginKeyboard\{69BEE631-7339-4dca-96EF-2E4BD92AAFF8}]
>> >> @="SoftKeyboard.ini|KbcResources.dll|2752|17490|Lo gin"
>> >>
>> >> Thats the reg export that i got. Your string of hex characters may be
>> >> different, but there are other strings around TabletTip branch that
>> >> are
>> >> the
>> >> same as the one that should be used.
>> >>
>> >> -James
>> >>
>> >> "billj" <billj@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:1859AFA0-2DC4-4B67-9C77-6D83A6BF7EFB@microsoft.com...
>> >> >* Have Motion Computing 1400 running XP Tablet SP2 - great product
>> >> > * TIP (Tablet Input Panel) works perfectly after logon
>> >> > * TIP is not available for entering of password to logon after
>> >> > system
>> >> > restart; a physically attached keyboard is required
>> >> >
>> >> > What exactly is the registry setting to make the TIP available for
>> >> > logon
>> >> > password entry at system restart or when switching user accounts?
>> >> > THX
>> >> > FOR
>> >> > YOUR HELP
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>

>>
>>
>>



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Old 03-21-2005, 10:17 PM
billj
Newsgroup Contributor
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Tablet Input Panel missing for logon

Did a comp.exe on your softkeyboard.txt and my softkeyboard.ini.
Unfortunately, they match exactly. So, that rules out the culprit being the
obvious registry entry and the .ini file.

A) What is the process name, or service, that accepts the
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\TabletTip\Lo ginKeyboard\... registry
config as input to invoke the kbdresource.dll? Perhaps, that is not started,
present, or is missing its own registry config to consult the
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\TabletTip\Lo ginKeyboard for starting
up...

B) Is there a method to unistall only the TIP, and then reinstall it?

C) Could I modify the
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\TabletTip\Lo ginKeyboard\... config to
point to XP's On Screen Keyboard (OSK.EXE)? If so, is only that one key
affected? Better than nothing...

D) Is there an authoritative source for Windows registry definitions?

E) Would uninstalling/reinstalling the pen driver be an option?

Don't you just love how intuitively maintainable the Windows O/S is? NOT...

Thanks for the file Chiris.

"Chris H." wrote:

> Oh, and I forgot to answer your question. You're using the web-based
> newsgroup interface, and that doesn't allow attachments. You would need to
> use a regular news reader (like Outlook Express, which comes with Windows
> XP) and connect via the msnews.microsoft.com news server.
>
> By setting up a News account in OE, you would be able to access all
> Microsoft's newsgroups directly. There's no logon, no password and it is
> free. Use OE's Help if you don't know how to set up a news account, and
> it'll guide you through it. Once you subscribe to the
> microsoft.public.windows.tabletpc newsgroup, you'll be able to download all
> the messages. OE, as a protective security measure, doesn't allow
> attachments to be viewed or downloaded, but you could turn that off for a
> moment once you find this thread.
>
> You would just go to Tools/Options/Security tab, and then remove the check
> mark from "Do not allow attachments . . ." As soon as you've save the
> attachment, you can turn that back on. Since I posted it in .zip form, you
> first run your AV program against it to verify it is clean, then simply tap
> the *.zip file where you saved it, and use XP's built-in compressed folder
> mechanism to extract the text file.
> --
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/nichol.mspx
> In memory of a true friend, Windows MVP Alex Nichol
>
> Chris H.
> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> Associate Expert
> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>
>
> "billj" <billj@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:21A3E8E6-59D5-48C8-9F36-950CBA5ACBA8@microsoft.com...
> > Have been in contact with Motion. Have spent many hours scanning Microsoft
> > support and knowledge DB, the www with your name (Chris) coming to the top
> > as
> > being most helpful on forums such as these. Also, have many years of
> > expert
> > and development experience in most operating systems including Windows.
> > The
> > background of this case is:
> >
> > 0) Motion 1400 Tablet worked great, including pop-up kbd at logon, until I
> > cleaned up an about:blank trojan.
> > 1) Let kids use the tablet one day and they contracted the about:blank
> > trojan.
> > 2) Installed Windows Recovery Console (WRC), deleted the problem dll, then
> > cleaned up the registry manually.
> > 3) Ran a few other tools like Hijack.exe to identify any other problems
> > and
> > removed varous registry entries. Virus scanned the machine and blessed it
> > finally as being CLEAN without issues..
> > 4) Subsequently, kbd was not showing at login anymore, and not sure when
> > it
> > actually started occurring during my machine cleaning process. I thought
> > I
> > must have removed a needed registry entry.
> > 5) Uninstalled WRC, rebooted, and problem was not fixed.
> > 6) Upgraded machine to SP2 from SP1, rebooted and still not fixed.
> > 7) Upgraded SP2 with various security PTFs, rebooted and still not fixed.
> > 8) Uninstalled Motion Computing dashboard, reinstalled later version,
> > rebooted and still not fixed.
> > 9) Noticed "tablet s" entry was missing ... (tabtip was ok), so
> > incorporated
> > that in Registry and validated was checked in system startup - per Chris
> > H.
> > notes in other trhreads, still no success...
> > 10) Was given a LEVEL 1 support answer to reinstall Windows from Motion
> > Computing, and realized how pathetic their support was, so resorted to
> > starting this thread. Can you imagine if someone told you to reinstall
> > Solaris, UNIX, or Linux??? Would never happen.
> > 11) Scanned entire registry and Ink directory .ini files to look for
> > suspects with no success.
> > 12) Have tried all suggestions and then some pertaining to this thread.
> >
> > So, there is the backgorund. I would have kept track of what I did had I
> > known such an easy system remedy would have caused this issue. I also
> > cleaned up the backup directory which prevents me from restoring the
> > system
> > to a previous state. Admittedly, there are steps I should have taken to
> > do a
> > restore in case I screwed something up - which I did!
> >
> > Chris, how do I get to your attachment?
> >
> > Anyone have a Microsoft contact to get this remedied? It has to be
> > something simple. I'll escalate through Motion to Microsoft and will post
> > any
> > success.
> >
> > Thanks for all your time!
> >
> >
> >
> > "Chris H." wrote:
> >
> >> Please don't change this line just arbitrarily. I am quoting from my
> >> Motion, which differs from what James posted. I've zipped the
> >> softkeyboard.ini file from the Motion for you to compare with your
> >> softkeyboard.ini file (the file inside the zip is a .txt file, but make
> >> sure
> >> to run your anti-virus software against it before opening). Hopefully
> >> that
> >> will lead to some change. 8-) If not, I would suggest you contact
> >> Motion's
> >> support on their toll-free number and see what they've got to say.
> >> --
> >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/nichol.mspx
> >> In memory of a true friend, Windows MVP Alex Nichol
> >>
> >> Chris H.
> >> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
> >> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> >> Associate Expert
> >> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> >>
> >>
> >> "billj" <billj@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:89703C0E-5AA4-4B1C-BBF4-174D454F1871@microsoft.com...
> >> >I bounced the machine after commenting the (apparently correct) string
> >> >out,
> >> > then bounced it again after editing back to the original (apparently
> >> > good)
> >> > form in the registry. Still no success. Assuming that registry entry
> >> > invokes the kbcresources.dll (which I verified is on the machine in the
> >> > Ink
> >> > dir), could there be a problem in the line referenced SoftKeyboard.ini
> >> > file?
> >> > I didn't see anything in that .ini file which jumps out at me for
> >> > pop-up
> >> > of
> >> > the kbd at login time. What else needs to be in place to get the login
> >> > kibd
> >> > to pop-up? Thanks
> >> >
> >> > "James Gockel" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\TabletTip\Lo ginKeyboard]
> >> >>
> >> >> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\TabletTip\Lo ginKeyboard\{69BEE631-7339-4dca-96EF-2E4BD92AAFF8}]
> >> >> @="SoftKeyboard.ini|KbcResources.dll|2752|17490|Lo gin"
> >> >>
> >> >> Thats the reg export that i got. Your string of hex characters may be
> >> >> different, but there are other strings around TabletTip branch that
> >> >> are
> >> >> the
> >> >> same as the one that should be used.
> >> >>
> >> >> -James
> >> >>
> >> >> "billj" <billj@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:1859AFA0-2DC4-4B67-9C77-6D83A6BF7EFB@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >* Have Motion Computing 1400 running XP Tablet SP2 - great product
> >> >> > * TIP (Tablet Input Panel) works perfectly after logon
> >> >> > * TIP is not available for entering of password to logon after
> >> >> > system
> >> >> > restart; a physically attached keyboard is required
> >> >> >
> >> >> > What exactly is the registry setting to make the TIP available for
> >> >> > logon
> >> >> > password entry at system restart or when switching user accounts?
> >> >> > THX
> >> >> > FOR
> >> >> > YOUR HELP
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>

>
>
>

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Old 03-21-2005, 11:18 PM
Ken Schaefer
Newsgroup Contributor
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Tablet Input Panel missing for logon

It appears that you have had various experiences with malicious software
(trojans), an in the process both the trojan has modified your system, and
you have made various modifications.

Since you've spent so much time on this issue already, I would recommend
that you backup your data, and restore your machine to a "known good
configuration", either a configuration from before you contracted the
trojan, or a restoration from installation media. That's the only way you're
going to know that you've backed out whatever changes/corruption etc is
causing the problem.

Alterantively, you can gamble on spending some more time on this, but
there's no gaurantee (short of calling Microsoft and spending a few bucks)
that we can get this fixed. We simply don't know all the deviances from a
good configuration that you machine has.

Cheers
Ken

"billj" <billj@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:21A3E8E6-59D5-48C8-9F36-950CBA5ACBA8@microsoft.com...
: Have been in contact with Motion. Have spent many hours scanning Microsoft
: support and knowledge DB, the www with your name (Chris) coming to the top
as
: being most helpful on forums such as these. Also, have many years of
expert
: and development experience in most operating systems including Windows.
The
: background of this case is:
:
: 0) Motion 1400 Tablet worked great, including pop-up kbd at logon, until I
: cleaned up an about:blank trojan.
: 1) Let kids use the tablet one day and they contracted the about:blank
trojan.
: 2) Installed Windows Recovery Console (WRC), deleted the problem dll, then
: cleaned up the registry manually.
: 3) Ran a few other tools like Hijack.exe to identify any other problems
and
: removed varous registry entries. Virus scanned the machine and blessed it
: finally as being CLEAN without issues..
: 4) Subsequently, kbd was not showing at login anymore, and not sure when
it
: actually started occurring during my machine cleaning process. I thought
I
: must have removed a needed registry entry.
: 5) Uninstalled WRC, rebooted, and problem was not fixed.
: 6) Upgraded machine to SP2 from SP1, rebooted and still not fixed.
: 7) Upgraded SP2 with various security PTFs, rebooted and still not fixed.
: 8) Uninstalled Motion Computing dashboard, reinstalled later version,
: rebooted and still not fixed.
: 9) Noticed "tablet s" entry was missing ... (tabtip was ok), so
incorporated
: that in Registry and validated was checked in system startup - per Chris
H.
: notes in other trhreads, still no success...
: 10) Was given a LEVEL 1 support answer to reinstall Windows from Motion
: Computing, and realized how pathetic their support was, so resorted to
: starting this thread. Can you imagine if someone told you to reinstall
: Solaris, UNIX, or Linux??? Would never happen.
: 11) Scanned entire registry and Ink directory .ini files to look for
: suspects with no success.
: 12) Have tried all suggestions and then some pertaining to this thread.
:
: So, there is the backgorund. I would have kept track of what I did had I
: known such an easy system remedy would have caused this issue. I also
: cleaned up the backup directory which prevents me from restoring the
system
: to a previous state. Admittedly, there are steps I should have taken to
do a
: restore in case I screwed something up - which I did!
:
: Chris, how do I get to your attachment?
:
: Anyone have a Microsoft contact to get this remedied? It has to be
: something simple. I'll escalate through Motion to Microsoft and will post
any
: success.
:
: Thanks for all your time!
:
:
:
: "Chris H." wrote:
:
: > Please don't change this line just arbitrarily. I am quoting from my
: > Motion, which differs from what James posted. I've zipped the
: > softkeyboard.ini file from the Motion for you to compare with your
: > softkeyboard.ini file (the file inside the zip is a .txt file, but make
sure
: > to run your anti-virus software against it before opening). Hopefully
that
: > will lead to some change. 8-) If not, I would suggest you contact
Motion's
: > support on their toll-free number and see what they've got to say.
: > --
: > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/nichol.mspx
: > In memory of a true friend, Windows MVP Alex Nichol
: >
: > Chris H.
: > Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
: > Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
: > Associate Expert
: > Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
: >
: >
: > "billj" <billj@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
: > news:89703C0E-5AA4-4B1C-BBF4-174D454F1871@microsoft.com...
: > >I bounced the machine after commenting the (apparently correct) string
out,
: > > then bounced it again after editing back to the original (apparently
good)
: > > form in the registry. Still no success. Assuming that registry entry
: > > invokes the kbcresources.dll (which I verified is on the machine in
the
: > > Ink
: > > dir), could there be a problem in the line referenced SoftKeyboard.ini
: > > file?
: > > I didn't see anything in that .ini file which jumps out at me for
pop-up
: > > of
: > > the kbd at login time. What else needs to be in place to get the
login
: > > kibd
: > > to pop-up? Thanks
: > >
: > > "James Gockel" wrote:
: > >
: > >> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\TabletTip\Lo ginKeyboard]
: > >>
: > >>
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\TabletTip\Lo ginKeyboard\{69BEE631-7339-4dca-96EF-2E4BD92AAFF8}]
: > >> @="SoftKeyboard.ini|KbcResources.dll|2752|17490|Lo gin"
: > >>
: > >> Thats the reg export that i got. Your string of hex characters may be
: > >> different, but there are other strings around TabletTip branch that
are
: > >> the
: > >> same as the one that should be used.
: > >>
: > >> -James
: > >>
: > >> "billj" <billj@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
: > >> news:1859AFA0-2DC4-4B67-9C77-6D83A6BF7EFB@microsoft.com...
: > >> >* Have Motion Computing 1400 running XP Tablet SP2 - great product
: > >> > * TIP (Tablet Input Panel) works perfectly after logon
: > >> > * TIP is not available for entering of password to logon after
system
: > >> > restart; a physically attached keyboard is required
: > >> >
: > >> > What exactly is the registry setting to make the TIP available for
: > >> > logon
: > >> > password entry at system restart or when switching user accounts?
THX
: > >> > FOR
: > >> > YOUR HELP
: > >> >
: > >>
: > >>
: > >>
: >
: >
: >


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