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Old 03-20-2005, 02:16 PM
Jim
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controlling Tablet PC from desktop KB+mouse?

I have a tablet PC as well as desktop. What I would like is to prop my
tablet on its stand next to my monitor, and be able to use my main
desktop and mouse to control the tablet pc (sort of equivalent to a
video card outputting to 2 displays).

I have used winVNC before which allows one machine to control the mouse
and keyboard on another machine. I understand that Remote
Administration under XP can do the same thing.

However, winVNC viewer opens up a window on the viewer machine which
duplicates the screen on the server machine (understandable for remote
administration - an admin needs to be able to see what they're doing on
the remote machine- however absolutely the OPPOSITE of what I want to
be able to do...).

I want to be able to launch an app on my desktop pc that transfers
control of the mouse and kb to the tablet pc (just as winvnc does), but
that DOES NOT open another window on the desktop machine - what I want
is to maximise screen estate, without duplicating visual data.

A certain key combination should then allow me to terminate the remote
admin client and return my mouse and kb back to my desktop as normal.

It seems to me that it would be a very powerful option - not only is it
similar to a 2 display output, but more flexible still, since it *is* 2
different machines, I could literally take my tablet pc and work
elsewhere, or use the tablet to hand draw something I want to use on my
desktop pc. I find I don't use my tablet enough because I miss the
Keyboard and mouse... if I could use my desktop kb and mouse, it would
be great.

Does anyone know if this is possible or know of any software that could
do what I want?

Thanks for any input/suggestions.

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Old 03-20-2005, 02:16 PM
Chris H.
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Re: controlling Tablet PC from desktop KB+mouse?

Jim, the whole problem with "remote" to or from a Tablet PC is that you lose
the Tablet's best features of pen control. If you've noticed the posts in
this newsgroup, the issue is there's no external recognition of pen input
because there's no transfer of the digitizer to even select an object or
open a program. A little difficult to explain, but the external or remote
machine is totally unaware of digital input from the pen. 8-)

You may want to read MVP Charlie Russel's "work-around" information here:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...motedsktp.mspx
as a "method," but unacceptable work-around in every-day use.

For use of a Tablet PC with any monitor on your network - without a physical
connection to it - you might want to look at MaxiVista here:
http://www.maxivista.com/ Pretty slick little program.
--
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In memory of a true friend, Windows MVP Alex Nichol

Chris H.
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"Jim" <camdenguy********.com> wrote in message
news:1111354494.018744.115940@o13g2000cwo.googlegr oups.com...
>I have a tablet PC as well as desktop. What I would like is to prop my
> tablet on its stand next to my monitor, and be able to use my main
> desktop and mouse to control the tablet pc (sort of equivalent to a
> video card outputting to 2 displays).
>
> I have used winVNC before which allows one machine to control the mouse
> and keyboard on another machine. I understand that Remote
> Administration under XP can do the same thing.
>
> However, winVNC viewer opens up a window on the viewer machine which
> duplicates the screen on the server machine (understandable for remote
> administration - an admin needs to be able to see what they're doing on
> the remote machine- however absolutely the OPPOSITE of what I want to
> be able to do...).
>
> I want to be able to launch an app on my desktop pc that transfers
> control of the mouse and kb to the tablet pc (just as winvnc does), but
> that DOES NOT open another window on the desktop machine - what I want
> is to maximise screen estate, without duplicating visual data.
>
> A certain key combination should then allow me to terminate the remote
> admin client and return my mouse and kb back to my desktop as normal.
>
> It seems to me that it would be a very powerful option - not only is it
> similar to a 2 display output, but more flexible still, since it *is* 2
> different machines, I could literally take my tablet pc and work
> elsewhere, or use the tablet to hand draw something I want to use on my
> desktop pc. I find I don't use my tablet enough because I miss the
> Keyboard and mouse... if I could use my desktop kb and mouse, it would
> be great.
>
> Does anyone know if this is possible or know of any software that could
> do what I want?
>
> Thanks for any input/suggestions.
>



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Old 03-20-2005, 03:19 PM
Paul Adare
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Re: controlling Tablet PC from desktop KB+mouse?

In article <1111354494.018744.115940@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups .com>, in
the microsoft.public.windows.tabletpc news group, Jim
<camdenguy********.com> says...

> Does anyone know if this is possible or know of any software that could
> do what I want?
>


http://www.tabletpcpost.com/modules.php?
op=modload&name=Downloads&file=index&req=viewdownl oaddetails&lid=3
&ttitle=ShareKMC

or

http://tinyurl.com/5cfkj

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will the right answers come out?' I am not able to rightly apprehend
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Old 03-20-2005, 04:19 PM
Jim
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Re: controlling Tablet PC from desktop KB+mouse?

Chris-

For me, the main reason that I have not used my tablet pc as much as I
should have done is the lack of a keyboard interface.

If I can do what I want, I get effectively 2 displays, a keyboard/mouse
input to the tablet pc, *and* the ability to pick it off its stand and
draw on it when the need arises. So I still get to use pen control as
and when I need it, but get the convenience of conventional kb and
mouse.

Since my desktop and tablet are wirelessly connected, I see this as a
very powerful combination, and if I can manage what I want, I'll be
very happy :)

I'll check out yours and Paul's links and see what they are.

Thanks.

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Old 03-20-2005, 04:20 PM
Jim
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Re: controlling Tablet PC from desktop KB+mouse?


Paul Adare wrote:

>
> http://www.tabletpcpost.com/modules.php?
> op=modload&name=Downloads&file=index&req=viewdownl oaddetails&lid=3
> &ttitle=ShareKMC
>
> or
>
> http://tinyurl.com/5cfkj
>


Paul -

THANK YOU SO MUCH !!

This is *exactly* what I was looking for.

To anyone else who has a tablet pc and a desktop pc, I strongly suggest
you try this out. Despite Chris' comments that it obviates the pen
writing facility, I think this only increases the tablet pc's
functionality.

At no extra cost, I effectively have a dual display desktop with added
features (removable tablet module and pen-writing ability). Whooop!

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Old 03-20-2005, 04:20 PM
Jonathan Sachs
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Re: controlling Tablet PC from desktop KB+mouse?

On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:17:28 -0500, Paul Adare <padare@newsguy.com>
wrote:

>> Does anyone know if this is possible or know of any software that could
>> do what I want?
>>

>
>http://www.tabletpcpost.com/modules....title=ShareKMC


I recently asked about using the tablet PC as a pen-aware display on
my desktop computer, with the same object in mind, and was told it
would be impossible for the foreseeable future. Longhorn might improve
things, but there are no promises. "Dynamic Duo" operation simply is
not on the menu, so to speak, for the current generation of tablet PC
software.

Thanks for the TabletPCPost link -- it looks like it will provide some
of the interoperability I want.

My email address is llm040903 at earthlink dot net.
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Old 03-20-2005, 04:20 PM
Chris H.
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Re: controlling Tablet PC from desktop KB+mouse?

Jim, you cannot use a Tablet PC as a secondary monitor. The only way you
can access it is by using Remote Desktop, and then you're going to totally
lose the Tablet PC Edition functionality which makes the Tablet PC unique.
--
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In memory of a true friend, Windows MVP Alex Nichol

Chris H.
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Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
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"Jim" <camdenguy********.com> wrote in message
news:1111361645.308359.150900@f14g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> Chris-
>
> For me, the main reason that I have not used my tablet pc as much as I
> should have done is the lack of a keyboard interface.
>
> If I can do what I want, I get effectively 2 displays, a keyboard/mouse
> input to the tablet pc, *and* the ability to pick it off its stand and
> draw on it when the need arises. So I still get to use pen control as
> and when I need it, but get the convenience of conventional kb and
> mouse.
>
> Since my desktop and tablet are wirelessly connected, I see this as a
> very powerful combination, and if I can manage what I want, I'll be
> very happy :)
>
> I'll check out yours and Paul's links and see what they are.
>
> Thanks.
>



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Old 03-21-2005, 06:19 PM
Ken Schaefer
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Re: controlling Tablet PC from desktop KB+mouse?


"Jim" <camdenguy********.com> wrote in message
news:1111362973.117074.143510@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
:
: Paul Adare wrote:
:
: >
: > http://www.tabletpcpost.com/modules.php?
: > op=modload&name=Downloads&file=index&req=viewdownl oaddetails&lid=3
: > &ttitle=ShareKMC
: >
: > or
: >
: > http://tinyurl.com/5cfkj
: >
:
: Paul -
:
: THANK YOU SO MUCH !!
:
: This is *exactly* what I was looking for.

Hi Jim,

Glad you found what you're looking for. Can I make another suggestion? Most
people use KVM boxes (Keyboard, Video, Mouse) for this type of thing. You
connect your boxes to the KVM, and your input/output devices to the KVM, and
the KVM has a switch for toggling between the boxes connected. This gives
you the same sort of functionality, however you don't need to have the
desktop powered on for you to be able to use your keyboard/mouse with the
tablet.

Cheers
Ken


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Old 03-22-2005, 02:32 AM
Peter Diedrich
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Re: controlling Tablet PC from desktop KB+mouse?

I am beta testing the new Maxivista version 2 and it also has a
software kvm included: You can switch between using the tablet as a
secondary monitor or controlling it with the keyb and mouse of the
desktop box.

Peter
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