Our tablet has Sun Java and we wonder if it would be a "great" problem to use
(or install) Microsoft Java instead. Would anyone know the answer? If we
could get rid of the Sun Java and replace it with Microsoft Java, how would
we do that? We are not too computer savvy. Thanks for any help.

You don't any more, Alice. A court decision left Sun in control of the
java, and you have to use their version. I would be sure to check their
site early and often because they've had some security issues and are
updating quite often. Check here: http://java.sun.com/
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"AliceZ" <AliceZ@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:F9C63C46-7359-4F38-9341-6367A7165A93@microsoft.com...
> Our tablet has Sun Java and we wonder if it would be a "great" problem to
> use
> (or install) Microsoft Java instead. Would anyone know the answer? If we
> could get rid of the Sun Java and replace it with Microsoft Java, how
> would
> we do that? We are not too computer savvy. Thanks for any help.

I dont *have* to use anything.
Anyway's isnt that a monopoly? (no not the game) Wait, isn't that illegal?
All things considered JAva sucks, and is just a security problem. Hey, by
the way how do I get rid of java? I don't want it anymore.
-James


"Chris H." wrote:

> You don't any more, Alice. A court decision left Sun in control of the
> java, and you have to use their version. I would be sure to check their
> site early and often because they've had some security issues and are
> updating quite often. Check here: http://java.sun.com/
> --
> Chris H.
> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> Associate Expert
> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>
>
> "AliceZ" <AliceZ@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:F9C63C46-7359-4F38-9341-6367A7165A93@microsoft.com...
> > Our tablet has Sun Java and we wonder if it would be a "great" problem to
> > use
> > (or install) Microsoft Java instead. Would anyone know the answer? If we
> > could get rid of the Sun Java and replace it with Microsoft Java, how
> > would
> > we do that? We are not too computer savvy. Thanks for any help.
>
>
>

Uninstall from within Control Panel/Add or Remove Programs. You may have an
entry like "J2SE Runtime Environment 5.0 Update 1" listed. Be aware that
there are many instances where Java is used, however.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"flibbertigibbet007" <flibbertigibbet007@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:CDFE09AA-1E0E-4DB7-8BBD-F67804F953E7@microsoft.com...
>I dont *have* to use anything.
> Anyway's isnt that a monopoly? (no not the game) Wait, isn't that illegal?
> All things considered JAva sucks, and is just a security problem. Hey, by
> the way how do I get rid of java? I don't want it anymore.
> -James
>
>
> "Chris H." wrote:
>
>> You don't any more, Alice. A court decision left Sun in control of the
>> java, and you have to use their version. I would be sure to check their
>> site early and often because they've had some security issues and are
>> updating quite often. Check here: http://java.sun.com/
>> --
>> Chris H.
>> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
>> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
>> Associate Expert
>> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>
>>
>> "AliceZ" <AliceZ@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:F9C63C46-7359-4F38-9341-6367A7165A93@microsoft.com...
>> > Our tablet has Sun Java and we wonder if it would be a "great" problem
>> > to
>> > use
>> > (or install) Microsoft Java instead. Would anyone know the answer? If
>> > we
>> > could get rid of the Sun Java and replace it with Microsoft Java, how
>> > would
>> > we do that? We are not too computer savvy. Thanks for any help.
>>
>>
>>

We use the Microsoft Java VM to do all our demos because it runs much more
reliably and faster for GUI operations than the Sun JVM. To install
Microsoft's Java do the following:
1. Download the Microsoft VM from one of the links on the bottom of
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/answers_9.htm. Some download sites there work,
some don't.
2. Run Windows update. It will update your Java to the latest version
(Release 5.0.0.3810).
3. You may need to fiddle (in Tools | Internet Options | Advanced) with the
Java (Sun) and Microsoft VM options.

The two disadvantages of the Microsoft JVM are:
1. It uses an older version of Java so it will not run programs using newer
Java features.
2. In some situations TextFields do not summon the TIP, as detailed at
www.segal.org/java/tablet_events/.

If you want to keep the Sun JVM on the computer as well you can use a
utility to switch between JVMs without restarting the browser:
http://www.jensign.com/JavaScience/SelectIEJVM/

"AliceZ" <AliceZ@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:F9C63C46-7359-4F38-9341-6367A7165A93@microsoft.com...
> Our tablet has Sun Java and we wonder if it would be a "great" problem to
> use
> (or install) Microsoft Java instead. Would anyone know the answer? If we
> could get rid of the Sun Java and replace it with Microsoft Java, how
> would
> we do that? We are not too computer savvy. Thanks for any help.

"flibbertigibbet007" <flibbertigibbet007@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:CDFE09AA-1E0E-4DB7-8BBD-F67804F953E7@microsoft.com
> I dont *have* to use anything.
> Anyway's isnt that a monopoly? (no not the game) Wait, isn't that illegal?
> All things considered JAva sucks, and is just a security problem. Hey, by
> the way how do I get rid of java? I don't want it anymore.
> -James
>
>
> "Chris H." wrote:
>
>> You don't any more, Alice. A court decision left Sun in control of the
>> java, and you have to use their version. I would be sure to check their
>> site early and often because they've had some security issues and are
>> updating quite often. Check here: http://java.sun.com/
>> --
>> Chris H.

Sun wrote Java and they have a legal monopoly until their copyright runs
out, by which time no one will be using it anymore.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, IE/OE
Please respond in Newsgroup only. Do not send email
http://www.fjsmjs.com
Protect your PC
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http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/

"Chris H." <winxpnews********.com> wrote in message
news:u2wg$KrIFHA.236@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl
> You don't any more, Alice. A court decision left Sun in control of the
> java, and you have to use their version. I would be sure to check their
> site early and often because they've had some security issues and are
> updating quite often. Check here: http://java.sun.com/
>
> "AliceZ" <AliceZ@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:F9C63C46-7359-4F38-9341-6367A7165A93@microsoft.com...
>> Our tablet has Sun Java and we wonder if it would be a "great" problem to
>> use
>> (or install) Microsoft Java instead. Would anyone know the answer? If we
>> could get rid of the Sun Java and replace it with Microsoft Java, how
>> would
>> we do that? We are not too computer savvy. Thanks for any help.

And before installing a new version uninstall the old one. Otherwise you
can still have the security hole.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, IE/OE
Please respond in Newsgroup only. Do not send email
http://www.fjsmjs.com
Protect your PC
http://www.microsoft.com./athome/sec...t/default.aspx
http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/

flibbertigibbet007 <flibbertigibbet007@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> I dont *have* to use anything.
> Anyway's isnt that a monopoly? (no not the game) Wait, isn't that illegal?

No. It belongs to sun, in the same way as Macromedia are the only
company that can supply you with flash

> All things considered JAva sucks, and is just a security problem. Hey, by
> the way how do I get rid of java? I don't want it anymore.

Uninstall it.

--
Woody

www.alienrat.com

In IE6 Tools / Advanced, it has following CHECKED:
Java (Sun)
Use Java 2v1.4.2 for (applet) (THIS IS CHECKED)
Microsoft VM (all are CHECKED)
Java console enabled
Java logging enabled
JIT compiler
========
Does that mean I have both Sun and MS Java? Is so, can I uncheck the Java
(Sun)?
Please advise and thank you.


"Mickey Segal" wrote:

> We use the Microsoft Java VM to do all our demos because it runs much more
> reliably and faster for GUI operations than the Sun JVM. To install
> Microsoft's Java do the following:
> 1. Download the Microsoft VM from one of the links on the bottom of
> http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/answers_9.htm. Some download sites there work,
> some don't.
> 2. Run Windows update. It will update your Java to the latest version
> (Release 5.0.0.3810).
> 3. You may need to fiddle (in Tools | Internet Options | Advanced) with the
> Java (Sun) and Microsoft VM options.
>
> The two disadvantages of the Microsoft JVM are:
> 1. It uses an older version of Java so it will not run programs using newer
> Java features.
> 2. In some situations TextFields do not summon the TIP, as detailed at
> www.segal.org/java/tablet_events/.
>
> If you want to keep the Sun JVM on the computer as well you can use a
> utility to switch between JVMs without restarting the browser:
> http://www.jensign.com/JavaScience/SelectIEJVM/
>
> "AliceZ" <AliceZ@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:F9C63C46-7359-4F38-9341-6367A7165A93@microsoft.com...
> > Our tablet has Sun Java and we wonder if it would be a "great" problem to
> > use
> > (or install) Microsoft Java instead. Would anyone know the answer? If we
> > could get rid of the Sun Java and replace it with Microsoft Java, how
> > would
> > we do that? We are not too computer savvy. Thanks for any help.
>
>
>

That means you have both the Sun and Microsoft Java VMs installed and the
Sun Java VM is the one that is active. If you uncheck "Use Java 2v1.4.2"
the Microsoft Java VM will take over.

BTW, the current version of Sun's Java is 1.5.0_01 and you should upgrade if
you can.

"AliceZ" <AliceZ@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:18E5301E-C201-4B57-A4E3-CABB48F583E2@microsoft.com...
> In IE6 Tools / Advanced, it has following CHECKED:
> Java (Sun)
> Use Java 2v1.4.2 for (applet) (THIS IS CHECKED)
> Microsoft VM (all are CHECKED)
> Java console enabled
> Java logging enabled
> JIT compiler
> ========
> Does that mean I have both Sun and MS Java? Is so, can I uncheck the Java
> (Sun)?

As Mickey says, you've got the old version of Sun installed. You should
upgrade (and specifically follow their instructions about uninstalling
first) to the latest version. The version you have has a security flaw in
it. Please do not just install the new version. Sun's system doesn't
properly uninstall the previous, and you'll end up with two on your system.
If you think Gateway's site was confusing, wait until you try to follow
Sun's instructions. 8-)
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"AliceZ" <AliceZ@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:18E5301E-C201-4B57-A4E3-CABB48F583E2@microsoft.com...
> In IE6 Tools / Advanced, it has following CHECKED:
> Java (Sun)
> Use Java 2v1.4.2 for (applet) (THIS IS CHECKED)
> Microsoft VM (all are CHECKED)
> Java console enabled
> Java logging enabled
> JIT compiler
> ========
> Does that mean I have both Sun and MS Java? Is so, can I uncheck the Java
> (Sun)?
> Please advise and thank you.
>
>
> "Mickey Segal" wrote:
>
>> We use the Microsoft Java VM to do all our demos because it runs much
>> more
>> reliably and faster for GUI operations than the Sun JVM. To install
>> Microsoft's Java do the following:
>> 1. Download the Microsoft VM from one of the links on the bottom of
>> http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/answers_9.htm. Some download sites there
>> work,
>> some don't.
>> 2. Run Windows update. It will update your Java to the latest version
>> (Release 5.0.0.3810).
>> 3. You may need to fiddle (in Tools | Internet Options | Advanced) with
>> the
>> Java (Sun) and Microsoft VM options.
>>
>> The two disadvantages of the Microsoft JVM are:
>> 1. It uses an older version of Java so it will not run programs using
>> newer
>> Java features.
>> 2. In some situations TextFields do not summon the TIP, as detailed at
>> www.segal.org/java/tablet_events/.
>>
>> If you want to keep the Sun JVM on the computer as well you can use a
>> utility to switch between JVMs without restarting the browser:
>> http://www.jensign.com/JavaScience/SelectIEJVM/
>>
>> "AliceZ" <AliceZ@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:F9C63C46-7359-4F38-9341-6367A7165A93@microsoft.com...
>> > Our tablet has Sun Java and we wonder if it would be a "great" problem
>> > to
>> > use
>> > (or install) Microsoft Java instead. Would anyone know the answer? If
>> > we
>> > could get rid of the Sun Java and replace it with Microsoft Java, how
>> > would
>> > we do that? We are not too computer savvy. Thanks for any help.
>>
>>
>>