tablet pc market in the UK is dead...when will we see mini tablets - Page 5

#61 (**permalink**) 04-26-2005, 07:18 AM

Maybe. That is exactly one of the biggest mistakes Microsoft made in
marketing the current crop of Tablet PCs, taking aim at the wrong market.
Colleges and universities, with thousands of people on the go, needing quick
access to their information, would seem to be an excellent place to start.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone

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> I bet most tablets go into vertical markets (warehousing etc) and that
> market is well covered with specialised products and specialised
> vertical marketing channels.
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jkendrick · #62 (**permalink**) 04-26-2005, 09:02 AM

Jonathan, check out MaxiVista which lets you use the screen on any computer with any other, connects via Ethernet (and WiFi).

http://www.maxivista.com/

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonathan Sachs

On Sun, 6 Mar 2005 10:23:02 -0800, "me" <me@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote:
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What I envision is a software product that makes the tablet PC look to
the desktop computer like just another monitor in a multi-monitor
system, except that the parts of the display that are on the tablet PC
may be edited with the stylus.

Correct me if I'm wrong; I did not pursue either of those links to the
point of finding all the technical details about the product, but it
doesn't appear to me that either one is pushing the envelope in that
direction.

A plain old network connection between the tablet PC and the desktop
is the closest approach to what I need that I have seen, but it's not
very close. To take a very simple example, suppose I'm editing
document A on the tablet while I study document B on another display,
and I want to swap them. I need to be able to drag document A up, drag
document B down, and continue working. If the two computers are
networked, I must instead close each document on its respective
computer (using different pointing devices and gestures), then reopen
each one on the other computer and relocate the part I was working
with. A sequence of two gestures is replaced by a series of operations
that probably takes the better part of the minute. Furthermore, if
either document was maintaining unsavable state information (such as
the status of a software development system's debugging session), it
is lost. In any case my train of thought is broken, and the whole
process becomes disruptive rather than helpful.

My email address is llm040903 at earthlink dot net.

#63 (**permalink**) 04-26-2005, 11:17 AM

Jonathan Sachs <xxxxxxx@earthlink.not> wrote:

> On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:55:29 +0100, usenet@alienrat.co.uk (Woody)
> wrote:
>
> >> I have yet to figure out what useful things a handheld tablet PC would
> >> do that a PalmPilot doesn't do. But that's just me.
> >
> >Notetaking. Like a newton. The palm cant do that.
>
> I'm puzzled by that assertion. It seems to me that taking notes and
> calendar management are the only two generally useful things the Palm
> IS good for.

Calendar management maybe but not notes - thats what I bought the tablet
for. i cant do that on any palm I have tried. a couple of spider like
words on the page and that is it.

I do sales on my palm though.. well, zodiac. And gps on my pocketPC (in
fact it just lives in the car).

--
Woody

www.alienrat.com

#64 (**permalink**) 04-27-2005, 02:24 AM

Seeing the prototype close up, believe me, it will NOT fit in a pocket,
unless it's a very, very large one. It's also not expected to be in the
realm of reality until post Longhorn, 2007-2008.

It's certainly small by today's standards, but some of the other models
shown were just as large, although probably thinner than today's models.

terri

"Mickey Segal" <not_monitored@example.com> wrote in message
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> The whole idea of the smaller Tablets is that they will fit in a pocket.
> The pocket being aimed at is a sport jacket pocket or the equivalent. The
> clothing manufacturers originally objected to the weight, but the
> Microsoft prototype or the OQO are clear statements that the weight can be
> within acceptable limits.
>
> In medicine, people are looking to Tablet PCs as being able to run
> electronic health records software and advanced decision support tools.
> Medical informatics people are giving up on PDA devices and the hardware
> debate is between COWs (computers on wheels) and small tablets. We will
> probably see a mixture and they will both run the same software so it will
> be a battle only on the hardware end.
>
> "Jonathan Sachs" <xxxxxxx@earthlink.not> wrote in message
> news:pe8s61539cejpbhhgtpu7nvd3o909g6cse@4ax.com...
>> On the other hand, a hand-held tablet PC won't fit in my pocket
>
>

#65 (**permalink**) 04-27-2005, 05:15 AM

The idea is not an existing pocket on jackets, but rather a pocket a bit
larger than the current inside high pockets, moved down to a position
similar to the outside bottom pockets, but on the inside for security
reasons. Judging from this video of a normal size person handling the
prototype:
http://www.tabletpccorner.net/news_p...7_whec2005.wmv
it would work fine if one could produce a device this thin and light enough.

OQO used the inside high pocket in their original video, but their computer
is a bit to small and a bit too thick (as well as being a bit too slow and
not a Tablet PC).

There will be no problem getting the clothing manufacturers to move pockets
around. They would be glad to have a reason to drive upgrades for current
customers and glad to have a reason for new customers to buy a sport jacket.

"terri" <support@thetabletpc.net> wrote in message
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> Seeing the prototype close up, believe me, it will NOT fit in a pocket,
> unless it's a very, very large one. It's also not expected to be in the
> realm of reality until post Longhorn, 2007-2008.
>
> It's certainly small by today's standards, but some of the other models
> shown were just as large, although probably thinner than today's models.

#66 (**permalink**) 04-27-2005, 06:16 AM

On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 01:38:04 -0700, "terri" <support@thetabletpc.net>
wrote:

>>> On the other hand, a hand-held tablet PC won't fit in my pocket...

>> The whole idea of the smaller Tablets is that they will fit in a pocket....

>Seeing the prototype close up, believe me, it will NOT fit in a pocket...

You know, it really doesn't make a lot of difference. If a tablet PC
is small enough to fit in a pocket, like a PDA, it BECOMES a PDA that
just happens to run Windows XP Tablet Edition instead of PalmOS or
Windows CE.

The capabilities of this type of product are largely determined by
hardware. The capabilities of the hardware determine the design of the
software. If Windows XP were adapted to make a pocket-size computer
work effectively, most of the significant differences between Windows
XP and PalmOS would disappear.

For some perspective, think about the market for the type of tablets
made by Boise Cascade. According to the Office Depot web site they are
readily available in four sizes from 3x5" to 8½x14", but if you watch
what people use, you will find that 8½x11" is by far the most popular,
even though it won't fit in your pocket. There's a reason for that.

My email address is LLM041103 at earthlink dot net.

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