I have a Toshiba M200 Tablet PC with Windows XP Tablet edition. The machine
is supplied with Recovery CD's that wipe the harddisk, partition it and
restore a base image.

After changing the partitions, doing windows updates and installing my
software, I ghosted my system partition.

My partition structure is 2 primary partitions and one logical partition for
data. I use a boot manager to hide one of the primary partitions and allow me
to boot of the other. Both can see the logical partition.

I restore the ghost image to both primary partitions. Under XP Prof this
normally allows me to test new software on one partition without risking my
normal day to day partition.

Under XP Tablet, when I boot into the 2nd partition, I don't get the virtual
keyboard, and after logging on, the machine logs me off straight away. When I
boot into the 1st partition everything works normally.

Any ideas?

I don't believe it is the Tablet PC (which is Windows XP Pro), but probably
the setting you're using in Ghost. If the partition you're copying with
Ghost is placed on the second primary, and still is being enumerated as the
first location on the drive, then it will fail. I've not used Ghost in
years, but I believe you may need to do something like "cloning" so it
accepts and reports itself as properly being in the second location.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"HippyD" <HippyD@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:4ACF0BD5-8556-45F8-8AC9-74A1CCBC985B@microsoft.com...
>I have a Toshiba M200 Tablet PC with Windows XP Tablet edition. The machine
> is supplied with Recovery CD's that wipe the harddisk, partition it and
> restore a base image.
>
> After changing the partitions, doing windows updates and installing my
> software, I ghosted my system partition.
>
> My partition structure is 2 primary partitions and one logical partition
> for
> data. I use a boot manager to hide one of the primary partitions and allow
> me
> to boot of the other. Both can see the logical partition.
>
> I restore the ghost image to both primary partitions. Under XP Prof this
> normally allows me to test new software on one partition without risking
> my
> normal day to day partition.
>
> Under XP Tablet, when I boot into the 2nd partition, I don't get the
> virtual
> keyboard, and after logging on, the machine logs me off straight away.
> When I
> boot into the 1st partition everything works normally.
>
> Any ideas?
>
>

I found the solution, which was not what I expected and nothing to do with my
tablet. I post this response as I was unable to find a solution on the web,
but did find several others who has asked similar questions and got no
response.

This problem would have occured with XP, but for the slight difference in
the Recovery CD's which slightly altered my build approach.

After using the recovery CDs, I used a partiton editor to alter the
partition size, create my second primary partition and to create my data
partition. The partition manager formated the new partitions and after
rebooting into XP, it was able to see the second primary partition BEFORE I
reinstalled my OSloader! WinXP assigned a drive letter to the disk signature
which is stored in the registry as a DOSDEVICE under
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\MountedDevices. I then rebooted, using the OSLoader
to hide my second primary partition. I used Regedit to delete the associated
key for the second primary partition, before Ghosting. Now when I ghost and
restore, it rempas the new primary partition to C drive correctly, rather
than using it as the drive letter it was assigned earlier.

I don't think I've explained this very well, jeez I've only just slightly
grasped it myself. But certain parts of the install refer to files on the c
drive, which if it isn't there prevent the machine from loading properly,
even though it can partially boot with the primary partition assigned a
different drive letter.

Somehow if windows boots and can't see the device referred to as C and if it
see a new primary partition, it will mount this partiton as C. This is the
tricky unknown bit that has let me dual boot all this time. Unfortunately
because when I restored my ghost originally, windows wasn't seeing it as a
new device, but rather a device that already had a drive letter, it didn't do
this. It then hit a file request that pointed to the C drive and broke.

I hope this helps someone else.

Regards, and thanks to Chris and everyone else who mulled over over my
problem.

HippyD

"Chris H." wrote:

> I don't believe it is the Tablet PC (which is Windows XP Pro), but probably
> the setting you're using in Ghost. If the partition you're copying with
> Ghost is placed on the second primary, and still is being enumerated as the
> first location on the drive, then it will fail. I've not used Ghost in
> years, but I believe you may need to do something like "cloning" so it
> accepts and reports itself as properly being in the second location.
> --
> Chris H.
> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> Associate Expert
> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>
>
> "HippyD" <HippyD@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:4ACF0BD5-8556-45F8-8AC9-74A1CCBC985B@microsoft.com...
> >I have a Toshiba M200 Tablet PC with Windows XP Tablet edition. The machine
> > is supplied with Recovery CD's that wipe the harddisk, partition it and
> > restore a base image.
> >
> > After changing the partitions, doing windows updates and installing my
> > software, I ghosted my system partition.
> >
> > My partition structure is 2 primary partitions and one logical partition
> > for
> > data. I use a boot manager to hide one of the primary partitions and allow
> > me
> > to boot of the other. Both can see the logical partition.
> >
> > I restore the ghost image to both primary partitions. Under XP Prof this
> > normally allows me to test new software on one partition without risking
> > my
> > normal day to day partition.
> >
> > Under XP Tablet, when I boot into the 2nd partition, I don't get the
> > virtual
> > keyboard, and after logging on, the machine logs me off straight away.
> > When I
> > boot into the 1st partition everything works normally.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> >
>
>
>

The problem is still with what Ghost is doing, and what you're trying to do
if I understand what you're saying correctly.

The image taken off the C: drive by Ghost will continue to contain the
Master Boot Record (MBR) and start-up (boot.ini) information pertaining to
Drive C when placed on another primary partition. Therein is the problem.

I'm absolutely no expert on Ghost, since I haven't used it in years, but I
believe unless you properly select whether you're doing a partition or disk
image makes a difference, the former not recording the Master Boot Record.

I would strongly suggest you contact Symantec's support section, read
through their documentation and get their advice before possibly rendering
your system unbootable without a full format and recovery CD/DVD
installation.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"HippyD" <HippyD@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:76B5A991-47FF-407E-AF23-8C3597A63A51@microsoft.com...
>I found the solution, which was not what I expected and nothing to do with
>my
> tablet. I post this response as I was unable to find a solution on the
> web,
> but did find several others who has asked similar questions and got no
> response.
>
> This problem would have occured with XP, but for the slight difference in
> the Recovery CD's which slightly altered my build approach.
>
> After using the recovery CDs, I used a partiton editor to alter the
> partition size, create my second primary partition and to create my data
> partition. The partition manager formated the new partitions and after
> rebooting into XP, it was able to see the second primary partition BEFORE
> I
> reinstalled my OSloader! WinXP assigned a drive letter to the disk
> signature
> which is stored in the registry as a DOSDEVICE under
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\MountedDevices. I then rebooted, using the
> OSLoader
> to hide my second primary partition. I used Regedit to delete the
> associated
> key for the second primary partition, before Ghosting. Now when I ghost
> and
> restore, it rempas the new primary partition to C drive correctly, rather
> than using it as the drive letter it was assigned earlier.
>
> I don't think I've explained this very well, jeez I've only just slightly
> grasped it myself. But certain parts of the install refer to files on the
> c
> drive, which if it isn't there prevent the machine from loading properly,
> even though it can partially boot with the primary partition assigned a
> different drive letter.
>
> Somehow if windows boots and can't see the device referred to as C and if
> it
> see a new primary partition, it will mount this partiton as C. This is the
> tricky unknown bit that has let me dual boot all this time. Unfortunately
> because when I restored my ghost originally, windows wasn't seeing it as a
> new device, but rather a device that already had a drive letter, it didn't
> do
> this. It then hit a file request that pointed to the C drive and broke.
>
> I hope this helps someone else.
>
> Regards, and thanks to Chris and everyone else who mulled over over my
> problem.
>
> HippyD
>
> "Chris H." wrote:
>
>> I don't believe it is the Tablet PC (which is Windows XP Pro), but
>> probably
>> the setting you're using in Ghost. If the partition you're copying with
>> Ghost is placed on the second primary, and still is being enumerated as
>> the
>> first location on the drive, then it will fail. I've not used Ghost in
>> years, but I believe you may need to do something like "cloning" so it
>> accepts and reports itself as properly being in the second location.
>> --
>> Chris H.
>> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
>> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
>> Associate Expert
>> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>
>>
>> "HippyD" <HippyD@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:4ACF0BD5-8556-45F8-8AC9-74A1CCBC985B@microsoft.com...
>> >I have a Toshiba M200 Tablet PC with Windows XP Tablet edition. The
>> >machine
>> > is supplied with Recovery CD's that wipe the harddisk, partition it
>> > and
>> > restore a base image.
>> >
>> > After changing the partitions, doing windows updates and installing my
>> > software, I ghosted my system partition.
>> >
>> > My partition structure is 2 primary partitions and one logical
>> > partition
>> > for
>> > data. I use a boot manager to hide one of the primary partitions and
>> > allow
>> > me
>> > to boot of the other. Both can see the logical partition.
>> >
>> > I restore the ghost image to both primary partitions. Under XP Prof
>> > this
>> > normally allows me to test new software on one partition without
>> > risking
>> > my
>> > normal day to day partition.
>> >
>> > Under XP Tablet, when I boot into the 2nd partition, I don't get the
>> > virtual
>> > keyboard, and after logging on, the machine logs me off straight away.
>> > When I
>> > boot into the 1st partition everything works normally.
>> >
>> > Any ideas?
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>

I am imaging partitions as opposed to disks, so there is no imaging of the MBR.

Ghost handles the boot.ini, changing the partition number. I used to use
DriveImage and had to update this file by hand, but Ghost takes care of that
for you.

I've beeh ghosting and restoring my machine over and over again for several
days with no dramas now I have eliminated that registry entry refering to the
second partition. I can wipe the machine completely, create a new partition
strcuture, restore the ghost image to both new primary partitions, install my
osloader and presto I have a fully working dual boot.


"Chris H." wrote:

> The problem is still with what Ghost is doing, and what you're trying to do
> if I understand what you're saying correctly.
>
> The image taken off the C: drive by Ghost will continue to contain the
> Master Boot Record (MBR) and start-up (boot.ini) information pertaining to
> Drive C when placed on another primary partition. Therein is the problem.
>
> I'm absolutely no expert on Ghost, since I haven't used it in years, but I
> believe unless you properly select whether you're doing a partition or disk
> image makes a difference, the former not recording the Master Boot Record.
>
> I would strongly suggest you contact Symantec's support section, read
> through their documentation and get their advice before possibly rendering
> your system unbootable without a full format and recovery CD/DVD
> installation.
> --
> Chris H.
> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> Associate Expert
> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>
>
> "HippyD" <HippyD@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:76B5A991-47FF-407E-AF23-8C3597A63A51@microsoft.com...
> >I found the solution, which was not what I expected and nothing to do with
> >my
> > tablet. I post this response as I was unable to find a solution on the
> > web,
> > but did find several others who has asked similar questions and got no
> > response.
> >
> > This problem would have occured with XP, but for the slight difference in
> > the Recovery CD's which slightly altered my build approach.
> >
> > After using the recovery CDs, I used a partiton editor to alter the
> > partition size, create my second primary partition and to create my data
> > partition. The partition manager formated the new partitions and after
> > rebooting into XP, it was able to see the second primary partition BEFORE
> > I
> > reinstalled my OSloader! WinXP assigned a drive letter to the disk
> > signature
> > which is stored in the registry as a DOSDEVICE under
> > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\MountedDevices. I then rebooted, using the
> > OSLoader
> > to hide my second primary partition. I used Regedit to delete the
> > associated
> > key for the second primary partition, before Ghosting. Now when I ghost
> > and
> > restore, it rempas the new primary partition to C drive correctly, rather
> > than using it as the drive letter it was assigned earlier.
> >
> > I don't think I've explained this very well, jeez I've only just slightly
> > grasped it myself. But certain parts of the install refer to files on the
> > c
> > drive, which if it isn't there prevent the machine from loading properly,
> > even though it can partially boot with the primary partition assigned a
> > different drive letter.
> >
> > Somehow if windows boots and can't see the device referred to as C and if
> > it
> > see a new primary partition, it will mount this partiton as C. This is the
> > tricky unknown bit that has let me dual boot all this time. Unfortunately
> > because when I restored my ghost originally, windows wasn't seeing it as a
> > new device, but rather a device that already had a drive letter, it didn't
> > do
> > this. It then hit a file request that pointed to the C drive and broke.
> >
> > I hope this helps someone else.
> >
> > Regards, and thanks to Chris and everyone else who mulled over over my
> > problem.
> >
> > HippyD
> >
> > "Chris H." wrote:
> >
> >> I don't believe it is the Tablet PC (which is Windows XP Pro), but
> >> probably
> >> the setting you're using in Ghost. If the partition you're copying with
> >> Ghost is placed on the second primary, and still is being enumerated as
> >> the
> >> first location on the drive, then it will fail. I've not used Ghost in
> >> years, but I believe you may need to do something like "cloning" so it
> >> accepts and reports itself as properly being in the second location.
> >> --
> >> Chris H.
> >> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
> >> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> >> Associate Expert
> >> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> >>
> >>
> >> "HippyD" <HippyD@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:4ACF0BD5-8556-45F8-8AC9-74A1CCBC985B@microsoft.com...
> >> >I have a Toshiba M200 Tablet PC with Windows XP Tablet edition. The
> >> >machine
> >> > is supplied with Recovery CD's that wipe the harddisk, partition it
> >> > and
> >> > restore a base image.
> >> >
> >> > After changing the partitions, doing windows updates and installing my
> >> > software, I ghosted my system partition.
> >> >
> >> > My partition structure is 2 primary partitions and one logical
> >> > partition
> >> > for
> >> > data. I use a boot manager to hide one of the primary partitions and
> >> > allow
> >> > me
> >> > to boot of the other. Both can see the logical partition.
> >> >
> >> > I restore the ghost image to both primary partitions. Under XP Prof
> >> > this
> >> > normally allows me to test new software on one partition without
> >> > risking
> >> > my
> >> > normal day to day partition.
> >> >
> >> > Under XP Tablet, when I boot into the 2nd partition, I don't get the
> >> > virtual
> >> > keyboard, and after logging on, the machine logs me off straight away.
> >> > When I
> >> > boot into the 1st partition everything works normally.
> >> >
> >> > Any ideas?
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

Both partitions are "C"?
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone



"HippyD" <HippyD@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:D61260E4-9B7C-4CD8-B4B3-427B5E8300B3@microsoft.com...
>I am imaging partitions as opposed to disks, so there is no imaging of the
>MBR.
>
> Ghost handles the boot.ini, changing the partition number. I used to use
> DriveImage and had to update this file by hand, but Ghost takes care of
> that
> for you.
>
> I've beeh ghosting and restoring my machine over and over again for
> several
> days with no dramas now I have eliminated that registry entry refering to
> the
> second partition. I can wipe the machine completely, create a new
> partition
> strcuture, restore the ghost image to both new primary partitions, install
> my
> osloader and presto I have a fully working dual boot.
>
>
> "Chris H." wrote:
>
>> The problem is still with what Ghost is doing, and what you're trying to
>> do
>> if I understand what you're saying correctly.
>>
>> The image taken off the C: drive by Ghost will continue to contain the
>> Master Boot Record (MBR) and start-up (boot.ini) information pertaining
>> to
>> Drive C when placed on another primary partition. Therein is the
>> problem.
>>
>> I'm absolutely no expert on Ghost, since I haven't used it in years, but
>> I
>> believe unless you properly select whether you're doing a partition or
>> disk
>> image makes a difference, the former not recording the Master Boot
>> Record.
>>
>> I would strongly suggest you contact Symantec's support section, read
>> through their documentation and get their advice before possibly
>> rendering
>> your system unbootable without a full format and recovery CD/DVD
>> installation.
>> --
>> Chris H.
>> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
>> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
>> Associate Expert
>> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>
>>
>> "HippyD" <HippyD@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:76B5A991-47FF-407E-AF23-8C3597A63A51@microsoft.com...
>> >I found the solution, which was not what I expected and nothing to do
>> >with
>> >my
>> > tablet. I post this response as I was unable to find a solution on the
>> > web,
>> > but did find several others who has asked similar questions and got no
>> > response.
>> >
>> > This problem would have occured with XP, but for the slight difference
>> > in
>> > the Recovery CD's which slightly altered my build approach.
>> >
>> > After using the recovery CDs, I used a partiton editor to alter the
>> > partition size, create my second primary partition and to create my
>> > data
>> > partition. The partition manager formated the new partitions and after
>> > rebooting into XP, it was able to see the second primary partition
>> > BEFORE
>> > I
>> > reinstalled my OSloader! WinXP assigned a drive letter to the disk
>> > signature
>> > which is stored in the registry as a DOSDEVICE under
>> > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\MountedDevices. I then rebooted, using the
>> > OSLoader
>> > to hide my second primary partition. I used Regedit to delete the
>> > associated
>> > key for the second primary partition, before Ghosting. Now when I ghost
>> > and
>> > restore, it rempas the new primary partition to C drive correctly,
>> > rather
>> > than using it as the drive letter it was assigned earlier.
>> >
>> > I don't think I've explained this very well, jeez I've only just
>> > slightly
>> > grasped it myself. But certain parts of the install refer to files on
>> > the
>> > c
>> > drive, which if it isn't there prevent the machine from loading
>> > properly,
>> > even though it can partially boot with the primary partition assigned a
>> > different drive letter.
>> >
>> > Somehow if windows boots and can't see the device referred to as C and
>> > if
>> > it
>> > see a new primary partition, it will mount this partiton as C. This is
>> > the
>> > tricky unknown bit that has let me dual boot all this time.
>> > Unfortunately
>> > because when I restored my ghost originally, windows wasn't seeing it
>> > as a
>> > new device, but rather a device that already had a drive letter, it
>> > didn't
>> > do
>> > this. It then hit a file request that pointed to the C drive and broke.
>> >
>> > I hope this helps someone else.
>> >
>> > Regards, and thanks to Chris and everyone else who mulled over over my
>> > problem.
>> >
>> > HippyD
>> >
>> > "Chris H." wrote:
>> >
>> >> I don't believe it is the Tablet PC (which is Windows XP Pro), but
>> >> probably
>> >> the setting you're using in Ghost. If the partition you're copying
>> >> with
>> >> Ghost is placed on the second primary, and still is being enumerated
>> >> as
>> >> the
>> >> first location on the drive, then it will fail. I've not used Ghost
>> >> in
>> >> years, but I believe you may need to do something like "cloning" so it
>> >> accepts and reports itself as properly being in the second location.
>> >> --
>> >> Chris H.
>> >> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
>> >> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
>> >> Associate Expert
>> >> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "HippyD" <HippyD@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:4ACF0BD5-8556-45F8-8AC9-74A1CCBC985B@microsoft.com...
>> >> >I have a Toshiba M200 Tablet PC with Windows XP Tablet edition. The
>> >> >machine
>> >> > is supplied with Recovery CD's that wipe the harddisk, partition it
>> >> > and
>> >> > restore a base image.
>> >> >
>> >> > After changing the partitions, doing windows updates and installing
>> >> > my
>> >> > software, I ghosted my system partition.
>> >> >
>> >> > My partition structure is 2 primary partitions and one logical
>> >> > partition
>> >> > for
>> >> > data. I use a boot manager to hide one of the primary partitions and
>> >> > allow
>> >> > me
>> >> > to boot of the other. Both can see the logical partition.
>> >> >
>> >> > I restore the ghost image to both primary partitions. Under XP Prof
>> >> > this
>> >> > normally allows me to test new software on one partition without
>> >> > risking
>> >> > my
>> >> > normal day to day partition.
>> >> >
>> >> > Under XP Tablet, when I boot into the 2nd partition, I don't get the
>> >> > virtual
>> >> > keyboard, and after logging on, the machine logs me off straight
>> >> > away.
>> >> > When I
>> >> > boot into the 1st partition everything works normally.
>> >> >
>> >> > Any ideas?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>