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Old 02-11-2005, 07:15 PM
Jan
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cannot use TIP if IE is started with RunAs

I'm running my IE under different user credentials using RunAs. But then the
tip won't add any text into the addressbar. When I click "Insert" it just
beeps. Also the context textbuttons (like www.) are not available.
When I start the IE normally everything works as expected.
Any ideas?
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Old 02-11-2005, 08:20 PM
Chris H.
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Re: cannot use TIP if IE is started with RunAs

Why are you running it in that manner? Just use it normally, and you won't
have the issue.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
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"Jan" <Jan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:413B1451-8418-4A7E-8E9E-3F58D9ED8DA4@microsoft.com...
> I'm running my IE under different user credentials using RunAs. But then
> the
> tip won't add any text into the addressbar. When I click "Insert" it just
> beeps. Also the context textbuttons (like www.) are not available.
> When I start the IE normally everything works as expected.
> Any ideas?



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Old 02-12-2005, 10:15 AM
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Re: cannot use TIP if IE is started with RunAs

Maybe so anything triggered by IE, such as an activex control, or a popup, will
run with a restricted user's rights? Maybe his actual login has higher privileges
that he doesn't want IE to run under?

--


-callahan
"Chris H." <winxpnews********.com> wrote in message
news:%234pz2GLEFHA.1496@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Why are you running it in that manner? Just use it normally, and you won't
> have the issue.
> --
> Chris H.
> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> Associate Expert
> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>
>
> "Jan" <Jan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:413B1451-8418-4A7E-8E9E-3F58D9ED8DA4@microsoft.com...
> > I'm running my IE under different user credentials using RunAs. But then
> > the
> > tip won't add any text into the addressbar. When I click "Insert" it just
> > beeps. Also the context textbuttons (like www.) are not available.
> > When I start the IE normally everything works as expected.
> > Any ideas?

>
>



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Old 02-12-2005, 07:16 PM
MiniMage
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Re: cannot use TIP if IE is started with RunAs

I've got to go with Callahan on this one.
If they teach "Run As" in the official Microsoft support classes
(and having completed one yesterday, I can assure you they do),
then it must be something that should be fully supported. It
does save some time on the job!

The big question is: does it happen for anyone else?
I decided to answer it, myself.

I created a normal user account (I run with admin privileges,
myself).
Both logins demonstrated problems using IE after executing as the
other user. It seems that using the "pointing inserts text"
setting allows the focus to be removed from IE somehow.
In other words, logged in as myself, and running IE as my test
user, when I tried to input in the address bar, the TIP would put
my text into this message, which was the last window I'd had
focus on before running IE. I suspect that the OP had no other
input-receiving windows open, and that meant TIP switched focus
to when input was not allowed (which would explain the beep).
When I changed HWR input to make me tap to insert, I didn't have
this problem.

Hasn't something like this been discussed before? I'm getting
deja vu.


--
TCPW
The Miniature Mage


"Callahan" <ca_callahan@WHATZA_HEycomputer.org> wrote in message
news:%23V9fQySEFHA.512@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> Maybe so anything triggered by IE, such as an activex control,
> or a popup, will
> run with a restricted user's rights? Maybe his actual login
> has higher privileges
> that he doesn't want IE to run under?
>
> --
>
>
> -callahan
> "Chris H." <winxpnews********.com> wrote in message
> news:%234pz2GLEFHA.1496@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> Why are you running it in that manner? Just use it normally,
>> and you won't
>> have the issue.
>> --
>> Chris H.
>> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
>> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
>> Associate Expert
>> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>
>>
>> "Jan" <Jan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:413B1451-8418-4A7E-8E9E-3F58D9ED8DA4@microsoft.com...
>> > I'm running my IE under different user credentials using
>> > RunAs. But then
>> > the
>> > tip won't add any text into the addressbar. When I click
>> > "Insert" it just
>> > beeps. Also the context textbuttons (like www.) are not
>> > available.
>> > When I start the IE normally everything works as expected.
>> > Any ideas?

>>
>>

>
>




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Old 02-13-2005, 03:17 AM
Jan
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Re: cannot use TIP if IE is started with RunAs

Right! to browse the web you don't need much rights. To add some security I
use this "Low-Rights" user. So anything running inside or started by the IE
(scripts or ActiveX controls) also have restricted rights. So they can't
access my files /documents nor can they access my email addressbook. And Run
As is perfect for this.

"Callahan" wrote:

> Maybe so anything triggered by IE, such as an activex control, or a popup, will
> run with a restricted user's rights? Maybe his actual login has higher privileges
> that he doesn't want IE to run under?
>
> --
>
>
> -callahan
> "Chris H." <winxpnews********.com> wrote in message
> news:%234pz2GLEFHA.1496@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> > Why are you running it in that manner? Just use it normally, and you won't
> > have the issue.
> > --
> > Chris H.
> > Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
> > Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> > Associate Expert
> > Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> >
> >
> > "Jan" <Jan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:413B1451-8418-4A7E-8E9E-3F58D9ED8DA4@microsoft.com...
> > > I'm running my IE under different user credentials using RunAs. But then
> > > the
> > > tip won't add any text into the addressbar. When I click "Insert" it just
> > > beeps. Also the context textbuttons (like www.) are not available.
> > > When I start the IE normally everything works as expected.
> > > Any ideas?

> >
> >

>
>
>

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Old 02-13-2005, 04:16 AM
Jan
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Re: cannot use TIP if IE is started with RunAs

Thanks for the research.

> In other words, logged in as myself, and running IE as my test
> user, when I tried to input in the address bar, the TIP would put
> my text into this message, which was the last window I'd had
> focus on before running IE. I suspect that the OP had no other
> input-receiving windows open, and that meant TIP switched focus
> to when input was not allowed (which would explain the beep).
> When I changed HWR input to make me tap to insert, I didn't have
> this problem.

l did the same thing with different TIP setting but have the same behavior.
The text will be inserted into the input receiving control of that user TIP
is running under.
So it doesn't have to do with the TIP settings.
My settings for the TIP are:
-Show next to text
-tapping the icon opens the panel
-tapping insert inserts text
-use Gestures

> Both logins demonstrated problems using IE after executing as the
> other user.

If not using the Tip I don't experience any problems. Everything works as
normal. Keyboard input works fine. It is just the TIP that behaves odd.


TabTip.exe & TCServer.exe are normal processes and running under the
account I login with ,not the restricted one.
Maybe this is the problem.
but can it be solved? don't think you can start them more than one time, do
you?

"MiniMage" wrote:

> I've got to go with Callahan on this one.
> If they teach "Run As" in the official Microsoft support classes
> (and having completed one yesterday, I can assure you they do),
> then it must be something that should be fully supported. It
> does save some time on the job!
>
> The big question is: does it happen for anyone else?
> I decided to answer it, myself.
>
> I created a normal user account (I run with admin privileges,
> myself).
> Both logins demonstrated problems using IE after executing as the
> other user. It seems that using the "pointing inserts text"
> setting allows the focus to be removed from IE somehow.
> In other words, logged in as myself, and running IE as my test
> user, when I tried to input in the address bar, the TIP would put
> my text into this message, which was the last window I'd had
> focus on before running IE. I suspect that the OP had no other
> input-receiving windows open, and that meant TIP switched focus
> to when input was not allowed (which would explain the beep).
> When I changed HWR input to make me tap to insert, I didn't have
> this problem.
>
> Hasn't something like this been discussed before? I'm getting
> deja vu.
>
>
> --
> TCPW
> The Miniature Mage
>
>
> "Callahan" <ca_callahan@WHATZA_HEycomputer.org> wrote in message
> news:%23V9fQySEFHA.512@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> > Maybe so anything triggered by IE, such as an activex control,
> > or a popup, will
> > run with a restricted user's rights? Maybe his actual login
> > has higher privileges
> > that he doesn't want IE to run under?
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> > -callahan
> > "Chris H." <winxpnews********.com> wrote in message
> > news:%234pz2GLEFHA.1496@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> >> Why are you running it in that manner? Just use it normally,
> >> and you won't
> >> have the issue.
> >> --
> >> Chris H.
> >> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
> >> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> >> Associate Expert
> >> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> >>
> >>
> >> "Jan" <Jan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:413B1451-8418-4A7E-8E9E-3F58D9ED8DA4@microsoft.com...
> >> > I'm running my IE under different user credentials using
> >> > RunAs. But then
> >> > the
> >> > tip won't add any text into the addressbar. When I click
> >> > "Insert" it just
> >> > beeps. Also the context textbuttons (like www.) are not
> >> > available.
> >> > When I start the IE normally everything works as expected.
> >> > Any ideas?
> >>
> >>

> >
> >

>
>
>
>

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Old 02-13-2005, 09:24 AM
Chris H.
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Re: cannot use TIP if IE is started with RunAs

That is probably the correct action - they only run one instance, and the
RunAs account doesn't have access to them because your logon account already
has them.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"Jan" <Jan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:277F2242-C2A0-470C-8FD0-2589F337DAA0@microsoft.com...
> Thanks for the research.
>
> TabTip.exe & TCServer.exe are normal processes and running under the
> account I login with ,not the restricted one.
> Maybe this is the problem.
> but can it be solved? don't think you can start them more than one time,
> do
> you?



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Old 02-13-2005, 10:17 AM
Jeffrey W. Roach
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Re: cannot use TIP if IE is started with RunAs

tabtip.exe and tcserver.exe run under the user account, so when you use run
as, the other account does not have access to the ink. you will have to "run
as" in the two ink exe's for it to work I believe.



--
Jeffery W. Roach
MCT, MCSE, MCSA, MCDST, CTTS, CNA, N+, A+
http://spaces.msn.com/members/jeffroach




"MiniMage" <minimage@REMOVEstdio.com> wrote in message
news:%23ZvkvhXEFHA.3596@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> I've got to go with Callahan on this one.
> If they teach "Run As" in the official Microsoft support classes
> (and having completed one yesterday, I can assure you they do),
> then it must be something that should be fully supported. It
> does save some time on the job!
>
> The big question is: does it happen for anyone else?
> I decided to answer it, myself.
>
> I created a normal user account (I run with admin privileges, myself).
> Both logins demonstrated problems using IE after executing as the other
> user. It seems that using the "pointing inserts text" setting allows the
> focus to be removed from IE somehow.
> In other words, logged in as myself, and running IE as my test user, when
> I tried to input in the address bar, the TIP would put my text into this
> message, which was the last window I'd had focus on before running IE. I
> suspect that the OP had no other input-receiving windows open, and that
> meant TIP switched focus to when input was not allowed (which would
> explain the beep).
> When I changed HWR input to make me tap to insert, I didn't have this
> problem.
>
> Hasn't something like this been discussed before? I'm getting deja vu.
>
>
> --
> TCPW
> The Miniature Mage
>
>
> "Callahan" <ca_callahan@WHATZA_HEycomputer.org> wrote in message
> news:%23V9fQySEFHA.512@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>> Maybe so anything triggered by IE, such as an activex control,
>> or a popup, will
>> run with a restricted user's rights? Maybe his actual login
>> has higher privileges
>> that he doesn't want IE to run under?
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> -callahan
>> "Chris H." <winxpnews********.com> wrote in message
>> news:%234pz2GLEFHA.1496@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>> Why are you running it in that manner? Just use it normally,
>>> and you won't
>>> have the issue.
>>> --
>>> Chris H.
>>> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
>>> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
>>> Associate Expert
>>> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jan" <Jan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:413B1451-8418-4A7E-8E9E-3F58D9ED8DA4@microsoft.com...
>>> > I'm running my IE under different user credentials using
>>> > RunAs. But then
>>> > the
>>> > tip won't add any text into the addressbar. When I click
>>> > "Insert" it just
>>> > beeps. Also the context textbuttons (like www.) are not
>>> > available.
>>> > When I start the IE normally everything works as expected.
>>> > Any ideas?
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
>
>



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Old 02-13-2005, 11:17 AM
Jan
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Re: cannot use TIP if IE is started with RunAs

I tried to run the two processes under the same user but it doesn't help at
all.
if you have two tabtips running the TIP goes completely nuts. It is
flashing and seems to be toggling between the two instances. Also both of
them have about 50% of CPU load.
Maybe this is something that slipped through testing. Using RunAs is a
recommend technique for admins. they will have this issue also, when
performing administrative tasks on a tablet pc.
Jan



"Jeffrey W. Roach" wrote:

> tabtip.exe and tcserver.exe run under the user account, so when you use run
> as, the other account does not have access to the ink. you will have to "run
> as" in the two ink exe's for it to work I believe.
>
>
>
> --
> Jeffery W. Roach
> MCT, MCSE, MCSA, MCDST, CTTS, CNA, N+, A+
> http://spaces.msn.com/members/jeffroach
>
>
>
>
> "MiniMage" <minimage@REMOVEstdio.com> wrote in message
> news:%23ZvkvhXEFHA.3596@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > I've got to go with Callahan on this one.
> > If they teach "Run As" in the official Microsoft support classes
> > (and having completed one yesterday, I can assure you they do),
> > then it must be something that should be fully supported. It
> > does save some time on the job!
> >
> > The big question is: does it happen for anyone else?
> > I decided to answer it, myself.
> >
> > I created a normal user account (I run with admin privileges, myself).
> > Both logins demonstrated problems using IE after executing as the other
> > user. It seems that using the "pointing inserts text" setting allows the
> > focus to be removed from IE somehow.
> > In other words, logged in as myself, and running IE as my test user, when
> > I tried to input in the address bar, the TIP would put my text into this
> > message, which was the last window I'd had focus on before running IE. I
> > suspect that the OP had no other input-receiving windows open, and that
> > meant TIP switched focus to when input was not allowed (which would
> > explain the beep).
> > When I changed HWR input to make me tap to insert, I didn't have this
> > problem.
> >
> > Hasn't something like this been discussed before? I'm getting deja vu.
> >
> >
> > --
> > TCPW
> > The Miniature Mage
> >
> >
> > "Callahan" <ca_callahan@WHATZA_HEycomputer.org> wrote in message
> > news:%23V9fQySEFHA.512@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> >> Maybe so anything triggered by IE, such as an activex control,
> >> or a popup, will
> >> run with a restricted user's rights? Maybe his actual login
> >> has higher privileges
> >> that he doesn't want IE to run under?
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >>
> >> -callahan
> >> "Chris H." <winxpnews********.com> wrote in message
> >> news:%234pz2GLEFHA.1496@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> >>> Why are you running it in that manner? Just use it normally,
> >>> and you won't
> >>> have the issue.
> >>> --
> >>> Chris H.
> >>> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
> >>> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> >>> Associate Expert
> >>> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "Jan" <Jan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:413B1451-8418-4A7E-8E9E-3F58D9ED8DA4@microsoft.com...
> >>> > I'm running my IE under different user credentials using
> >>> > RunAs. But then
> >>> > the
> >>> > tip won't add any text into the addressbar. When I click
> >>> > "Insert" it just
> >>> > beeps. Also the context textbuttons (like www.) are not
> >>> > available.
> >>> > When I start the IE normally everything works as expected.
> >>> > Any ideas?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>

> >
> >
> >

>
>
>

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Old 02-13-2005, 04:17 PM
Jeffrey W. Roach
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Re: cannot use TIP if IE is started with RunAs

Let me play with it, but I think you'll have to kill the processes first,
let me modify a "bat file" to see if we can make it work...



--
Jeffery W. Roach
MCT, MCSE, MCSA, MCDST, CTTS, CNA, N+, A+
http://spaces.msn.com/members/jeffroach

"Jan" <Jan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:4D3CD5F8-09CA-44E2-BB12-EC40F409B996@microsoft.com...
>I tried to run the two processes under the same user but it doesn't help at
> all.
> if you have two tabtips running the TIP goes completely nuts. It is
> flashing and seems to be toggling between the two instances. Also both of
> them have about 50% of CPU load.
> Maybe this is something that slipped through testing. Using RunAs is a
> recommend technique for admins. they will have this issue also, when
> performing administrative tasks on a tablet pc.
> Jan
>
>
>
> "Jeffrey W. Roach" wrote:
>
>> tabtip.exe and tcserver.exe run under the user account, so when you use
>> run
>> as, the other account does not have access to the ink. you will have to
>> "run
>> as" in the two ink exe's for it to work I believe.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jeffery W. Roach
>> MCT, MCSE, MCSA, MCDST, CTTS, CNA, N+, A+
>> http://spaces.msn.com/members/jeffroach
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "MiniMage" <minimage@REMOVEstdio.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23ZvkvhXEFHA.3596@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> > I've got to go with Callahan on this one.
>> > If they teach "Run As" in the official Microsoft support classes
>> > (and having completed one yesterday, I can assure you they do),
>> > then it must be something that should be fully supported. It
>> > does save some time on the job!
>> >
>> > The big question is: does it happen for anyone else?
>> > I decided to answer it, myself.
>> >
>> > I created a normal user account (I run with admin privileges, myself).
>> > Both logins demonstrated problems using IE after executing as the other
>> > user. It seems that using the "pointing inserts text" setting allows
>> > the
>> > focus to be removed from IE somehow.
>> > In other words, logged in as myself, and running IE as my test user,
>> > when
>> > I tried to input in the address bar, the TIP would put my text into
>> > this
>> > message, which was the last window I'd had focus on before running IE.
>> > I
>> > suspect that the OP had no other input-receiving windows open, and that
>> > meant TIP switched focus to when input was not allowed (which would
>> > explain the beep).
>> > When I changed HWR input to make me tap to insert, I didn't have this
>> > problem.
>> >
>> > Hasn't something like this been discussed before? I'm getting deja
>> > vu.
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > TCPW
>> > The Miniature Mage
>> >
>> >
>> > "Callahan" <ca_callahan@WHATZA_HEycomputer.org> wrote in message
>> > news:%23V9fQySEFHA.512@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>> >> Maybe so anything triggered by IE, such as an activex control,
>> >> or a popup, will
>> >> run with a restricted user's rights? Maybe his actual login
>> >> has higher privileges
>> >> that he doesn't want IE to run under?
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -callahan
>> >> "Chris H." <winxpnews********.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:%234pz2GLEFHA.1496@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> >>> Why are you running it in that manner? Just use it normally,
>> >>> and you won't
>> >>> have the issue.
>> >>> --
>> >>> Chris H.
>> >>> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
>> >>> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
>> >>> Associate Expert
>> >>> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> "Jan" <Jan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >>> news:413B1451-8418-4A7E-8E9E-3F58D9ED8DA4@microsoft.com...
>> >>> > I'm running my IE under different user credentials using
>> >>> > RunAs. But then
>> >>> > the
>> >>> > tip won't add any text into the addressbar. When I click
>> >>> > "Insert" it just
>> >>> > beeps. Also the context textbuttons (like www.) are not
>> >>> > available.
>> >>> > When I start the IE normally everything works as expected.
>> >>> > Any ideas?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >

>>
>>
>>



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Old 02-13-2005, 04:17 PM
Jeffrey W. Roach
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Re: cannot use TIP if IE is started with RunAs

You'll need a keyboard for this to work, but this works, use the code
between the __ and save it as a .bat
__

REM - First, kill processes
taskkill -im tabtip.exe /F
taskkill -im tcserver.exe /F

REM - switch to directory containing Ink executables
c:
cd "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Ink\"

REM - Startup the processes -
REM - tcserver.exe will be called automatically by tabtip.exe
runas /user:(machine name\admin account name) "tabtip.exe"

__

in the "(machine name\admin account name)" enter as an example:
mymachinename\administrator

then you'll be prompted for a password at the command line, this is why you
need the keyboard...


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"Jan" <Jan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:4D3CD5F8-09CA-44E2-BB12-EC40F409B996@microsoft.com...
>I tried to run the two processes under the same user but it doesn't help at
> all.
> if you have two tabtips running the TIP goes completely nuts. It is
> flashing and seems to be toggling between the two instances. Also both of
> them have about 50% of CPU load.
> Maybe this is something that slipped through testing. Using RunAs is a
> recommend technique for admins. they will have this issue also, when
> performing administrative tasks on a tablet pc.
> Jan
>
>
>
> "Jeffrey W. Roach" wrote:
>
>> tabtip.exe and tcserver.exe run under the user account, so when you use
>> run
>> as, the other account does not have access to the ink. you will have to
>> "run
>> as" in the two ink exe's for it to work I believe.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jeffery W. Roach
>> MCT, MCSE, MCSA, MCDST, CTTS, CNA, N+, A+
>> http://spaces.msn.com/members/jeffroach
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "MiniMage" <minimage@REMOVEstdio.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23ZvkvhXEFHA.3596@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> > I've got to go with Callahan on this one.
>> > If they teach "Run As" in the official Microsoft support classes
>> > (and having completed one yesterday, I can assure you they do),
>> > then it must be something that should be fully supported. It
>> > does save some time on the job!
>> >
>> > The big question is: does it happen for anyone else?
>> > I decided to answer it, myself.
>> >
>> > I created a normal user account (I run with admin privileges, myself).
>> > Both logins demonstrated problems using IE after executing as the other
>> > user. It seems that using the "pointing inserts text" setting allows
>> > the
>> > focus to be removed from IE somehow.
>> > In other words, logged in as myself, and running IE as my test user,
>> > when
>> > I tried to input in the address bar, the TIP would put my text into
>> > this
>> > message, which was the last window I'd had focus on before running IE.
>> > I
>> > suspect that the OP had no other input-receiving windows open, and that
>> > meant TIP switched focus to when input was not allowed (which would
>> > explain the beep).
>> > When I changed HWR input to make me tap to insert, I didn't have this
>> > problem.
>> >
>> > Hasn't something like this been discussed before? I'm getting deja
>> > vu.
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > TCPW
>> > The Miniature Mage
>> >
>> >
>> > "Callahan" <ca_callahan@WHATZA_HEycomputer.org> wrote in message
>> > news:%23V9fQySEFHA.512@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>> >> Maybe so anything triggered by IE, such as an activex control,
>> >> or a popup, will
>> >> run with a restricted user's rights? Maybe his actual login
>> >> has higher privileges
>> >> that he doesn't want IE to run under?
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -callahan
>> >> "Chris H." <winxpnews********.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:%234pz2GLEFHA.1496@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> >>> Why are you running it in that manner? Just use it normally,
>> >>> and you won't
>> >>> have the issue.
>> >>> --
>> >>> Chris H.
>> >>> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
>> >>> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
>> >>> Associate Expert
>> >>> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> "Jan" <Jan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >>> news:413B1451-8418-4A7E-8E9E-3F58D9ED8DA4@microsoft.com...
>> >>> > I'm running my IE under different user credentials using
>> >>> > RunAs. But then
>> >>> > the
>> >>> > tip won't add any text into the addressbar. When I click
>> >>> > "Insert" it just
>> >>> > beeps. Also the context textbuttons (like www.) are not
>> >>> > available.
>> >>> > When I start the IE normally everything works as expected.
>> >>> > Any ideas?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >

>>
>>
>>



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Re: cannot use TIP if IE is started with RunAs

This sounds great! I will try this.
Btw.
You don't need a keyboard for this to work. At least not every time.
RunAs has a parameter called /savecred if you specify it you will be only
asked once for the password. Then it remembers it the next time.

"Jeffrey W. Roach" wrote:

> You'll need a keyboard for this to work, but this works, use the code
> between the __ and save it as a .bat
> __
>
> REM - First, kill processes
> taskkill -im tabtip.exe /F
> taskkill -im tcserver.exe /F
>
> REM - switch to directory containing Ink executables
> c:
> cd "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Ink\"
>
> REM - Startup the processes -
> REM - tcserver.exe will be called automatically by tabtip.exe
> runas /user:(machine name\admin account name) "tabtip.exe"
>
> __
>
> in the "(machine name\admin account name)" enter as an example:
> mymachinename\administrator
>
> then you'll be prompted for a password at the command line, this is why you
> need the keyboard...
>
>
> --
> Jeffery W. Roach
> MCT, MCSE, MCSA, MCDST, CTTS, CNA, N+, A+
> http://spaces.msn.com/members/jeffroach
>
>
>
> "Jan" <Jan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:4D3CD5F8-09CA-44E2-BB12-EC40F409B996@microsoft.com...
> >I tried to run the two processes under the same user but it doesn't help at
> > all.
> > if you have two tabtips running the TIP goes completely nuts. It is
> > flashing and seems to be toggling between the two instances. Also both of
> > them have about 50% of CPU load.
> > Maybe this is something that slipped through testing. Using RunAs is a
> > recommend technique for admins. they will have this issue also, when
> > performing administrative tasks on a tablet pc.
> > Jan
> >
> >
> >
> > "Jeffrey W. Roach" wrote:
> >
> >> tabtip.exe and tcserver.exe run under the user account, so when you use
> >> run
> >> as, the other account does not have access to the ink. you will have to
> >> "run
> >> as" in the two ink exe's for it to work I believe.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jeffery W. Roach
> >> MCT, MCSE, MCSA, MCDST, CTTS, CNA, N+, A+
> >> http://spaces.msn.com/members/jeffroach
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "MiniMage" <minimage@REMOVEstdio.com> wrote in message
> >> news:%23ZvkvhXEFHA.3596@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> >> > I've got to go with Callahan on this one.
> >> > If they teach "Run As" in the official Microsoft support classes
> >> > (and having completed one yesterday, I can assure you they do),
> >> > then it must be something that should be fully supported. It
> >> > does save some time on the job!
> >> >
> >> > The big question is: does it happen for anyone else?
> >> > I decided to answer it, myself.
> >> >
> >> > I created a normal user account (I run with admin privileges, myself).
> >> > Both logins demonstrated problems using IE after executing as the other
> >> > user. It seems that using the "pointing inserts text" setting allows
> >> > the
> >> > focus to be removed from IE somehow.
> >> > In other words, logged in as myself, and running IE as my test user,
> >> > when
> >> > I tried to input in the address bar, the TIP would put my text into
> >> > this
> >> > message, which was the last window I'd had focus on before running IE.
> >> > I
> >> > suspect that the OP had no other input-receiving windows open, and that
> >> > meant TIP switched focus to when input was not allowed (which would
> >> > explain the beep).
> >> > When I changed HWR input to make me tap to insert, I didn't have this
> >> > problem.
> >> >
> >> > Hasn't something like this been discussed before? I'm getting deja
> >> > vu.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > TCPW
> >> > The Miniature Mage
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Callahan" <ca_callahan@WHATZA_HEycomputer.org> wrote in message
> >> > news:%23V9fQySEFHA.512@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> >> >> Maybe so anything triggered by IE, such as an activex control,
> >> >> or a popup, will
> >> >> run with a restricted user's rights? Maybe his actual login
> >> >> has higher privileges
> >> >> that he doesn't want IE to run under?
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> -callahan
> >> >> "Chris H." <winxpnews********.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:%234pz2GLEFHA.1496@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> >> >>> Why are you running it in that manner? Just use it normally,
> >> >>> and you won't
> >> >>> have the issue.
> >> >>> --
> >> >>> Chris H.
> >> >>> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
> >> >>> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> >> >>> Associate Expert
> >> >>> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> "Jan" <Jan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >>> news:413B1451-8418-4A7E-8E9E-3F58D9ED8DA4@microsoft.com...
> >> >>> > I'm running my IE under different user credentials using
> >> >>> > RunAs. But then
> >> >>> > the
> >> >>> > tip won't add any text into the addressbar. When I click
> >> >>> > "Insert" it just
> >> >>> > beeps. Also the context textbuttons (like www.) are not
> >> >>> > available.
> >> >>> > When I start the IE normally everything works as expected.
> >> >>> > Any ideas?
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>

>
>
>

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