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Old 02-01-2005, 06:16 AM
Beith
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2005 Write Anywhere Thread!!

Okay, I have read all the posts re: the removal of Write Anywhere and it
seems there has been no movement re: what is going to be done about it. What
is clear to me from the many posts is that Microsft now makes software for IT
professionals only. I mean you hid this 'upgrade' in the Service Pack just
because IT Administrators complained they couldn't manage the roll-out and
one of the responses to a complaint about the removal of WA that it was:
great to have the little floating tip handy (and this is the important bit)
"for when I need to enter some text" - - and that is the heart of the whole
problem - some of us need to enter text ALL THE TIME (and yes, I know I'm
shouting). It's what we use our computers for. It's what I spent three and a
half thousand dollars on a tablet to do!!!! I didn't buy it just to have the
latest gadget, for goodness sake (though I have been known to do that)!
If you are interested in how anyone who uses Word to its fullest uses their
tablet - here are my issues:
1)
I am a writer and editor and I used Writie Anywhere like this:
tap the input panel; tap the write anywhere button; tap and drag the symbols
and command boxes up to the top right hand of the screen tap ONCE where I
wanted to start writing and start writing. I could write all day, tapping at
any insertion point in the document, tap the tab button to activate the
functions of my Screenwriting software and all without EVER needing to
re-activate ANYTHING AND my view of my document was NEVER obscured - this is
even more important when editing documents.
How do I use it now?
Well - with a usb keyboard but anyway...
hover over the insertion point; tap the floating icon; catch the **** thing
before it disappears and move it a fraction of an inch to keep it open(and
waggling the pointer over the box while you think is an utterly ridiculous
suggestion), remember what you wanted to write - **** I've forgotten -what
was it - oh I can't see under the HUGE OPAQUE BOX tap on the document to get
rid of the HUGE OPAQUE BOX - oh that's right - okay: start again...
AND you have to start all that over AGAIN for EVERY SINGLE INSERTION POINT
beause it disappears.
So you say dock it: a) at the bottom of the screen it is too uncomfortable
to write - I assume that's why you gave us the new 'top dock' so: b) tablets
are, by nature, small - if you're writing up the top, your arm covers the
screen!
It was BRILLIANT! - Why fix what wasn't broken? Oh, that's right, some IT
guys hadn't mastered joined-up writing so it was the handwriting recognition
software that needed to be changed to suit them. For the record (and kudos to
the original developers) both the compaq and acer models I tested in the shop
recognised my psuedo-copperplate on first-go, in wordpad at the shop counter.

I know this was bordering on the rude and sarcastic but Write and Anywhere
and Journal were the ONLY features I spent so much on such a tiny notebook
and without Write Anywher I would not have purchsed it! PLEASE think about
those of us who need to enter more than the occasional bit of text - what DO
you do with you tablet, anyway? It's a very expensive reading machine! :)
PLEASE! PLEASE! PLEASE! BRING WA BACK!! Or at least give us a power-toy-like
plug-in so that my tablet isn't the tiny, hugely expensive notebook it has
now been rendered. (Or you could send me a check for $2500 to make up for the
geuine loss)



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Old 02-01-2005, 07:15 AM
Woody
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Re: 2005 Write Anywhere Thread!!

In article <8F1449DA-B6E0-48FD-918D-A43472DDFB18@microsoft.com>,
Beith@discussions.microsoft.com says...
> Okay, I have read all the posts re: the removal of Write Anywhere and it
> seems there has been no movement re: what is going to be done about it.


Indeed. I don't think anything is going to be done about it.

> I am a writer and editor and I used Writie Anywhere like this:
> tap the input panel; tap the write anywhere button; tap and drag the symbols
> and command boxes up to the top right hand of the screen tap ONCE where I
> wanted to start writing and start writing. I could write all day, tapping at
> any insertion point in the document, tap the tab button to activate the
> functions of my Screenwriting software and all without EVER needing to
> re-activate ANYTHING AND my view of my document was NEVER obscured - this is
> even more important when editing documents.


Wouldn't something like goBinder be more of use to you then word in this
case? Or even just journal.

> I know this was bordering on the rude and sarcastic but Write and Anywhere
> and Journal were the ONLY features I spent so much on such a tiny notebook
> and without Write Anywher I would not have purchsed it! PLEASE think about
> those of us who need to enter more than the occasional bit of text - what DO
> you do with you tablet, anyway?


I use goBinder and have never missed write anywhere. I didn't like it
much when it was there.

> PLEASE! PLEASE! PLEASE! BRING WA BACK!! Or at least give us a power-toy-like
> plug-in so that my tablet isn't the tiny, hugely expensive notebook it has
> now been rendered. (Or you could send me a check for $2500 to make up for the
> geuine loss)


Or you could remove service pack 2?


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Old 02-01-2005, 10:16 AM
Callahan
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Re: 2005 Write Anywhere Thread!!

Beith, I feel your pain. I do a lot of writing (and no editing <g>) and wanted to
use my tablet PC for that reason. I have yet to do so, however, because of the
issues that you now face (and a few of my own).

Honestly, the only thing I can suggest, like Woody, is to do without SP2. It is
the only way to avoid the problem. Of course, doing without SP2 will leave you
open to several security issues, which unfortunately is the true problem. You can
either have all or nothing. I think it's a bummer because I really like the
character recognition better with SP2.

I think the idea of the old write anywhere becoming a power toy is a great idea.
There are some great, useful power toys out there as it is, and it does seem to be
something that would fit into that category nicely.
--


-callahan
"Beith" <Beith@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8F1449DA-B6E0-48FD-918D-A43472DDFB18@microsoft.com...
> Okay, I have read all the posts re: the removal of Write Anywhere and it
> seems there has been no movement re: what is going to be done about it. What
> is clear to me from the many posts is that Microsft now makes software for IT
> professionals only. I mean you hid this 'upgrade' in the Service Pack just
> because IT Administrators complained they couldn't manage the roll-out and
> one of the responses to a complaint about the removal of WA that it was:
> great to have the little floating tip handy (and this is the important bit)
> "for when I need to enter some text" - - and that is the heart of the whole
> problem - some of us need to enter text ALL THE TIME (and yes, I know I'm
> shouting). It's what we use our computers for. It's what I spent three and a
> half thousand dollars on a tablet to do!!!! I didn't buy it just to have the
> latest gadget, for goodness sake (though I have been known to do that)!
> If you are interested in how anyone who uses Word to its fullest uses their
> tablet - here are my issues:
> 1)
> I am a writer and editor and I used Writie Anywhere like this:
> tap the input panel; tap the write anywhere button; tap and drag the symbols
> and command boxes up to the top right hand of the screen tap ONCE where I
> wanted to start writing and start writing. I could write all day, tapping at
> any insertion point in the document, tap the tab button to activate the
> functions of my Screenwriting software and all without EVER needing to
> re-activate ANYTHING AND my view of my document was NEVER obscured - this is
> even more important when editing documents.
> How do I use it now?
> Well - with a usb keyboard but anyway...
> hover over the insertion point; tap the floating icon; catch the **** thing
> before it disappears and move it a fraction of an inch to keep it open(and
> waggling the pointer over the box while you think is an utterly ridiculous
> suggestion), remember what you wanted to write - **** I've forgotten -what
> was it - oh I can't see under the HUGE OPAQUE BOX tap on the document to get
> rid of the HUGE OPAQUE BOX - oh that's right - okay: start again...
> AND you have to start all that over AGAIN for EVERY SINGLE INSERTION POINT
> beause it disappears.
> So you say dock it: a) at the bottom of the screen it is too uncomfortable
> to write - I assume that's why you gave us the new 'top dock' so: b) tablets
> are, by nature, small - if you're writing up the top, your arm covers the
> screen!
> It was BRILLIANT! - Why fix what wasn't broken? Oh, that's right, some IT
> guys hadn't mastered joined-up writing so it was the handwriting recognition
> software that needed to be changed to suit them. For the record (and kudos to
> the original developers) both the compaq and acer models I tested in the shop
> recognised my psuedo-copperplate on first-go, in wordpad at the shop counter.
>
> I know this was bordering on the rude and sarcastic but Write and Anywhere
> and Journal were the ONLY features I spent so much on such a tiny notebook
> and without Write Anywher I would not have purchsed it! PLEASE think about
> those of us who need to enter more than the occasional bit of text - what DO
> you do with you tablet, anyway? It's a very expensive reading machine! :)
> PLEASE! PLEASE! PLEASE! BRING WA BACK!! Or at least give us a power-toy-like
> plug-in so that my tablet isn't the tiny, hugely expensive notebook it has
> now been rendered. (Or you could send me a check for $2500 to make up for the
> geuine loss)
>
>
>



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Old 02-01-2005, 10:16 AM
Sharon F
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Re: 2005 Write Anywhere Thread!!

On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 14:39:31 -0000, Woody wrote:

> Wouldn't something like goBinder be more of use to you then word in this
> case? Or even just journal.


That's where I head when the task at hand is suited for freeform
handwriting. One Note is good for this style of input too.

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Old 02-01-2005, 10:16 AM
Chris H.
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Re: 2005 Write Anywhere Thread!!

Unlike other posters, I would not recommend reverting to pre-XP SP2
conditions. There are many, many security fixes in SP2 which are beneficial
not only to your machine but the rest of us because of the protection you
would be running.

Secondly, the Tablet Input Panel, the recognition and the Ink experience is
much improved in Tablet PC Edition 2005. You cannot have one without the
other, either. 8-) I personally fought against the elimination of Write
Anywhere, but found after a week or so my opinion changed with the 2005
Edition version. I've found it really works better, the overall performance
is improved, and even my scribble (see the web site sample in my signature
line) has become recognizable.

There are a few pretty neat programs which have brought the Write
Anywhere-type screens back to the Tablet PCs for those of just need to have
it. They include OrangeGuava from www.orangeguava.com and PenOffice from
http://www.phatware.com/ . Both are worth a look.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"Beith" <Beith@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8F1449DA-B6E0-48FD-918D-A43472DDFB18@microsoft.com...
> Okay, I have read all the posts re: the removal of Write Anywhere and it
> seems there has been no movement re: what is going to be done about it.
> What
> is clear to me from the many posts is that Microsft now makes software for
> IT
> professionals only. I mean you hid this 'upgrade' in the Service Pack just
> because IT Administrators complained they couldn't manage the roll-out and
> one of the responses to a complaint about the removal of WA that it was:
> great to have the little floating tip handy (and this is the important
> bit)
> "for when I need to enter some text" - - and that is the heart of the
> whole
> problem - some of us need to enter text ALL THE TIME (and yes, I know I'm
> shouting). It's what we use our computers for. It's what I spent three and
> a
> half thousand dollars on a tablet to do!!!! I didn't buy it just to have
> the
> latest gadget, for goodness sake (though I have been known to do that)!
> If you are interested in how anyone who uses Word to its fullest uses
> their
> tablet - here are my issues:
> 1)
> I am a writer and editor and I used Writie Anywhere like this:
> tap the input panel; tap the write anywhere button; tap and drag the
> symbols
> and command boxes up to the top right hand of the screen tap ONCE where I
> wanted to start writing and start writing. I could write all day, tapping
> at
> any insertion point in the document, tap the tab button to activate the
> functions of my Screenwriting software and all without EVER needing to
> re-activate ANYTHING AND my view of my document was NEVER obscured - this
> is
> even more important when editing documents.
> How do I use it now?
> Well - with a usb keyboard but anyway...
> hover over the insertion point; tap the floating icon; catch the ****
> thing
> before it disappears and move it a fraction of an inch to keep it open(and
> waggling the pointer over the box while you think is an utterly ridiculous
> suggestion), remember what you wanted to write - **** I've forgotten -what
> was it - oh I can't see under the HUGE OPAQUE BOX tap on the document to
> get
> rid of the HUGE OPAQUE BOX - oh that's right - okay: start again...
> AND you have to start all that over AGAIN for EVERY SINGLE INSERTION POINT
> beause it disappears.
> So you say dock it: a) at the bottom of the screen it is too uncomfortable
> to write - I assume that's why you gave us the new 'top dock' so: b)
> tablets
> are, by nature, small - if you're writing up the top, your arm covers the
> screen!
> It was BRILLIANT! - Why fix what wasn't broken? Oh, that's right, some IT
> guys hadn't mastered joined-up writing so it was the handwriting
> recognition
> software that needed to be changed to suit them. For the record (and kudos
> to
> the original developers) both the compaq and acer models I tested in the
> shop
> recognised my psuedo-copperplate on first-go, in wordpad at the shop
> counter.
>
> I know this was bordering on the rude and sarcastic but Write and Anywhere
> and Journal were the ONLY features I spent so much on such a tiny notebook
> and without Write Anywher I would not have purchsed it! PLEASE think about
> those of us who need to enter more than the occasional bit of text - what
> DO
> you do with you tablet, anyway? It's a very expensive reading machine! :)
> PLEASE! PLEASE! PLEASE! BRING WA BACK!! Or at least give us a
> power-toy-like
> plug-in so that my tablet isn't the tiny, hugely expensive notebook it has
> now been rendered. (Or you could send me a check for $2500 to make up for
> the
> geuine loss)
>
>
>



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Old 02-01-2005, 11:16 AM
Woody
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Re: 2005 Write Anywhere Thread!!

Chris H. <winxpnews********.com> wrote:

> Unlike other posters, I would not recommend reverting to pre-XP SP2
> conditions. There are many, many security fixes in SP2 which are beneficial
> not only to your machine but the rest of us because of the protection you
> would be running.


Although there are security fixes in SP2 which are useful, there are
still flaws since, and I would never rely on the default security that
is provided by MS.
If you take reasonable precautions, get a third party firewall, don't
use IE (or use it carefully), don't download things from dodgy sources
and don't click on attachments, or links in email, you can manage to
stay just as safe either with or without SP2.

> Secondly, the Tablet Input Panel, the recognition and the Ink experience is
> much improved in Tablet PC Edition 2005. You cannot have one without the
> other, either. 8-) I personally fought against the elimination of Write
> Anywhere, but found after a week or so my opinion changed with the 2005
> Edition version. I've found it really works better, the overall performance
> is improved, and even my scribble (see the web site sample in my signature
> line) has become recognizable.


I would agree with that, but it looks like the OP has tried them and
decided that they are not for him. If he is desparate to get write
anywhere back, it does seem like reverting to SP1 is the best option.

--
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www.alienrat.com
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Old 02-01-2005, 01:17 PM
Mike Williams [MVP]
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Re: 2005 Write Anywhere Thread!!

Woody wrote:

> I would agree with that, but it looks like the OP has tried them and
> decided that they are not for him. If he is desparate to get write
> anywhere back, it does seem like reverting to SP1 is the best option.


Hasn't MIcorsoft announced that WindowsUpdate will not work for pre-SP2
installations of XP from some point in the near future?

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Old 02-01-2005, 03:15 PM
Woody
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Re: 2005 Write Anywhere Thread!!

Mike Williams [MVP] <mikew@Nospam.mvps.org> wrote:

> Woody wrote:
>
> > I would agree with that, but it looks like the OP has tried them and
> > decided that they are not for him. If he is desparate to get write
> > anywhere back, it does seem like reverting to SP1 is the best option.

>
> Hasn't MIcorsoft announced that WindowsUpdate will not work for pre-SP2
> installations of XP from some point in the near future?


Probably true, but if the machine is no use to him without write
anywhere maybe it doesn't matter.

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www.alienrat.com
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Old 02-01-2005, 04:15 PM
Chris H.
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Re: 2005 Write Anywhere Thread!!

That's what I thought when we were beta testing the new Tablet Input Panel.
I dearly missed Write Anywhere, but certainly don't any more. The new TIP
is much easier to use to me than Write Anywhere ever was.

I would say a period of adjustment is needed before seeing the value of the
new setup.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"Woody" <usenet@alienrat.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1grbsp2.hfhwio9shrkvN%usenet@alienrat.co.uk.. .
> Mike Williams [MVP] <mikew@Nospam.mvps.org> wrote:
>
>> Woody wrote:
>>
>> > I would agree with that, but it looks like the OP has tried them and
>> > decided that they are not for him. If he is desparate to get write
>> > anywhere back, it does seem like reverting to SP1 is the best option.

>>
>> Hasn't MIcorsoft announced that WindowsUpdate will not work for pre-SP2
>> installations of XP from some point in the near future?

>
> Probably true, but if the machine is no use to him without write
> anywhere maybe it doesn't matter.
>
> --
> Woody
>
> www.alienrat.com



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Old 02-01-2005, 10:16 PM
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Re: 2005 Write Anywhere Thread!!

Thanks for all your responses. I am loathe to roll back SP2 for security and
future upgrade reasons and I am actually trialling PenOffice from Phat at the
moment but I am not finding it as good as the original MS product, slower,
for one and I also do not really need any of the other features. The
orangeguava desktop is cute but not what I need. I am switching between
PenOffice and the TIP and the TIP is faster with better recognition.
I am starting to get used to using the tablet scroll buttons to move the
document under the open TIP so that I don't have to keep reativating it every
time I want to scroll so the only problems left are the opacity and the
disappearing comand buttons (TAB ENTER etc...)
SO
I have had some potentially useful ideas, what do people think?
IDEA 1
What about a translucent 'skin' for the TIP? How difficult would that be?

IDEA 2
What about a lock for the command buttons on the side of the TIP which
disappear once you start writing and do not re-appear fast enough to allow
for smooth functioning. The second line could just begin at an earlier point.

With those two implemented then I think it really would be an improvement on
Write Anywhere.

"Chris H." wrote:

> That's what I thought when we were beta testing the new Tablet Input Panel.
> I dearly missed Write Anywhere, but certainly don't any more. The new TIP
> is much easier to use to me than Write Anywhere ever was.
>
> I would say a period of adjustment is needed before seeing the value of the
> new setup.
> --
> Chris H.
> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> Associate Expert
> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>
>
> "Woody" <usenet@alienrat.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:1grbsp2.hfhwio9shrkvN%usenet@alienrat.co.uk.. .
> > Mike Williams [MVP] <mikew@Nospam.mvps.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Woody wrote:
> >>
> >> > I would agree with that, but it looks like the OP has tried them and
> >> > decided that they are not for him. If he is desparate to get write
> >> > anywhere back, it does seem like reverting to SP1 is the best option.
> >>
> >> Hasn't MIcorsoft announced that WindowsUpdate will not work for pre-SP2
> >> installations of XP from some point in the near future?

> >
> > Probably true, but if the machine is no use to him without write
> > anywhere maybe it doesn't matter.
> >
> > --
> > Woody
> >
> > www.alienrat.com

>
>
>

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Beith wrote:

> I have had some potentially useful ideas, what do people think?
> IDEA 1
> What about a translucent 'skin' for the TIP? How difficult would that be?
>
> IDEA 2
> What about a lock for the command buttons on the side of the TIP which
> disappear once you start writing and do not re-appear fast enough to allow
> for smooth functioning. The second line could just begin at an earlier point.
>
> With those two implemented then I think it really would be an improvement on
> Write Anywhere.


Without giving details, I don't think you can imagine how many subtle
variations on TIP & Write Anywhere have been explored at Microsoft.
There are lots of vexed issues, especially when this is a stopgap
technology with a limited life-time.

The real effort for Longhorn/Avalon is going into building operating
system elements that work with ink & inputs directly. Spitting out
dozens of intermediate updates to the TIP simply sucks life away from
that effort.
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Old 02-02-2005, 02:23 AM
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I've had several months to adjust. I want Write Anywhere back.
Will I get it? Of course not. Certain folks have convinced
themselves that we don't want or deserve it, and that their time
is better spent convincing the theme folks to make another blue
theme. Maybe they're right, but I don't believe it.

I have OG. Sometimes I have used it to write. Sometimes I write
in Journal and copy/paste elsewhere. No offense tqc, of whom I
think highly, but these solutions have failed to take the place
of Write Anywhere.

Chris, I want to apologize in advance if I ever get a bit sharp
with you. Its just that I've been watching you post for months
about how you no longer miss WA, that people should give it a
try, etc, etc, and it's hard not to feel like the machinery is
rolling right over some of us (the faithful) who had something
which worked well for us and are now being told we don't want
what we do want. In the meantime, I'll keep reminding myself
that you don't work for Microsoft, that you're a volunteer who's
helped a lot of people, and that letting my frustration with
certain choices the SP2 programmers made get the better of me
will solve nothing.

Yes, yes, of course the new TIP's recognition is better than the
old, but it isn't WA, which didn't demand that a certain bit of
code be in an otherwise adequately functioning app to cooperate.
When an app doesn't have that code, I'm forced to use a docked
TIP (yes, I know, that's somebody else's fault, not Microsoft's).
Ever since I installed the 4.82 Wacom drivers, response to pen
strokes at the top of the screen have been excruciatingly slow,
and that happens in all four orientations. This means docking at
the top is a no-no. Docking at the bottom is not good, either.
In case no one noticed, I'm rather verbose, and writing one line
at a time will make me homicidal (no, I don't live anywhere near
Redmond). Oh, yeah, and is there anywhere more uncomfortable to
write than the bottom?

Just once, I'd like to see someone Microsoft respects admit that
Write Anywhere might actually be the best solution for some of us
(or has everyone else but me been converted?)!


--
TCPW
The Miniature Mage


"Chris H." <winxpnews********.com> wrote in message
news:%23mV1GVLCFHA.824@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> That's what I thought when we were beta testing the new Tablet
> Input Panel. I dearly missed Write Anywhere, but certainly
> don't any more. The new TIP is much easier to use to me than
> Write Anywhere ever was.
>
> I would say a period of adjustment is needed before seeing the
> value of the new setup.
> --
> Chris H.
> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> Associate Expert
> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>
>
> "Woody" <usenet@alienrat.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:1grbsp2.hfhwio9shrkvN%usenet@alienrat.co.uk.. .
>> Mike Williams [MVP] <mikew@Nospam.mvps.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Woody wrote:
>>>
>>> > I would agree with that, but it looks like the OP has tried
>>> > them and
>>> > decided that they are not for him. If he is desparate to
>>> > get write
>>> > anywhere back, it does seem like reverting to SP1 is the
>>> > best option.
>>>
>>> Hasn't MIcorsoft announced that WindowsUpdate will not work
>>> for pre-SP2
>>> installations of XP from some point in the near future?

>>
>> Probably true, but if the machine is no use to him without
>> write
>> anywhere maybe it doesn't matter.
>>
>> --
>> Woody
>>
>> www.alienrat.com

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Old 02-02-2005, 03:20 AM
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Re: 2005 Write Anywhere Thread!!

In article <OasAFtQCFHA.824@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl>,
minimage@REMOVEstdio.com says...
> I've had several months to adjust. I want Write Anywhere back.
> Will I get it? Of course not. Certain folks have convinced
> themselves that we don't want or deserve it, and that their time
> is better spent convincing the theme folks to make another blue
> theme. Maybe they're right, but I don't believe it.


To be fair, I don't think the people who make themes are the same people
that did WA :-)

> Yes, yes, of course the new TIP's recognition is better than the
> old, but it isn't WA, which didn't demand that a certain bit of
> code be in an otherwise adequately functioning app to cooperate.
> When an app doesn't have that code, I'm forced to use a docked
> TIP (yes, I know, that's somebody else's fault, not Microsoft's).


Well, no, it is Microsofts. The TIP is designed for non tip-aware
programs to enter text. If there is somewhere I can enter text but cant
use the tip, that is a fault of the TIP, as that is what it is supposed
to do.
Wheras I don't miss write anywhere, I do miss having the fixed hovering
dock which I could put somewhere and write into any application.

It was particularly handy for the command prompt, which doesn't work
with the tip either. I think if MS had got rid of the option to type
into non TIP aware programs, they could make sure that at least their
programs were tip aware!


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"Woody" <usenet@alienrat.co.uk> wrote in message
news:MPG.1c6abbe2daab1af3989792@192.168.254.11...
> In article <OasAFtQCFHA.824@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl>,
> minimage@REMOVEstdio.com says...
>> I've had several months to adjust. I want Write Anywhere
>> back.
>> Will I get it? Of course not. Certain folks have convinced
>> themselves that we don't want or deserve it, and that their
>> time
>> is better spent convincing the theme folks to make another
>> blue
>> theme. Maybe they're right, but I don't believe it.

>
> To be fair, I don't think the people who make themes are the
> same people
> that did WA :-)
>

That's why I said "convincing the theme folks" :)
'Course it was easy to lose in that novella I wrote!


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Old 02-02-2005, 04:19 AM
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Woody wrote:
> I think if MS had got rid of the option to type
> into non TIP aware programs, they could make sure that at least their
> programs were tip aware!


TIP awareness is built onto other infrastructure, which AFAICT simply
doesn't exist for the command window. The TIP's keyboard does work with
it however.

A work-around is to TIP-write into Notepad and paste that into CMD window.
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