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Old 01-11-2005, 07:15 AM
Conley
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Cannot RE-size TABLET INPUT PANEL

The TIP on a Gateway M275LS cannot be resized. It fills
the full width of the screen. There is no "HANDLE" to use
to resize it. Worked w/3 Gateway Techs. to no avail.
Any idea how to fix?

Thanks
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Old 01-11-2005, 07:15 AM
Chris H.
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Re: Cannot RE-size TABLET INPUT PANEL

Are you using the Windows XP SP2 and Tablet PC Edition 2005? If so, the
panel in Undock mode, will be smaller and located near any recognized text
input area when you have the pen near the screen and the little "floating"
Tablet Input Panel Access icon showing.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"Conley" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:210601c4f7eb$d0ec9f80$a401280a@phx.gbl...
> The TIP on a Gateway M275LS cannot be resized. It fills
> the full width of the screen. There is no "HANDLE" to use
> to resize it. Worked w/3 Gateway Techs. to no avail.
> Any idea how to fix?
>
> Thanks



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Old 01-11-2005, 08:19 AM
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Re: Cannot RE-size TABLET INPUT PANEL

Chris H. I am not yet using XP SP2. This is the OEM
version that shipped with the Tablet. I did see the
recommendation from Jeff Van West to install it. I will do
that but the question is how to resize with the original
version or is it a bug. It was working but suddenly
changed, so the TIP cannot be re-sized.

This machine has InocuLate-It and WEB Root installed. Do
they have to be uninstalled when I put SP2 on the system?

Thanks for your prompt response!


>-----Original Message-----
>Are you using the Windows XP SP2 and Tablet PC Edition

2005? If so, the
>panel in Undock mode, will be smaller and located near

any recognized text
>input area when you have the pen near the screen and the

little "floating"
>Tablet Input Panel Access icon showing.
>--
>Chris H.
>Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
>Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
>Associate Expert
>Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>
>
>"Conley" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

message
>news:210601c4f7eb$d0ec9f80$a401280a@phx.gbl...
>> The TIP on a Gateway M275LS cannot be resized. It fills
>> the full width of the screen. There is no "HANDLE" to

use
>> to resize it. Worked w/3 Gateway Techs. to no avail.
>> Any idea how to fix?
>>
>> Thanks

>
>
>.
>

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Old 01-11-2005, 09:18 AM
Chris H.
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Re: Cannot RE-size TABLET INPUT PANEL

You cannot resize the original, especially in the Dock mode. The Tablet PC
Edition 2005 is much improved, including in recognition and context input.
I would suggest you make a sweep of your system with your anti-virus program
(and latest definitions), and use some of the free malware detection
programs (check www.aumha.org/secure.htm for information), then either
uninstall or remove your AV program from start-up before installing.

There is very good information about how to prepare before installing XP SP2
in MVP Charlie Russel's Expert Zone article here:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...nstallsp2.mspx
Remember, too, that most Tablet PC manufacturers have updated their
model-specific drivers for Service Pack 2 on the Windows XP Pro operating
system. It is a good idea to visit the appropriate web site and follow
their instructions for the updates.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"Conley" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1a7201c4f7f4$6c1c2040$a501280a@phx.gbl...
> Chris H. I am not yet using XP SP2. This is the OEM
> version that shipped with the Tablet. I did see the
> recommendation from Jeff Van West to install it. I will do
> that but the question is how to resize with the original
> version or is it a bug. It was working but suddenly
> changed, so the TIP cannot be re-sized.
>
> This machine has InocuLate-It and WEB Root installed. Do
> they have to be uninstalled when I put SP2 on the system?
>
> Thanks for your prompt response!
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Are you using the Windows XP SP2 and Tablet PC Edition

> 2005? If so, the
>>panel in Undock mode, will be smaller and located near

> any recognized text
>>input area when you have the pen near the screen and the

> little "floating"
>>Tablet Input Panel Access icon showing.
>>--
>>Chris H.
>>Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
>>Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
>>Associate Expert
>>Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>
>>
>>"Conley" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

> message
>>news:210601c4f7eb$d0ec9f80$a401280a@phx.gbl...
>>> The TIP on a Gateway M275LS cannot be resized. It fills
>>> the full width of the screen. There is no "HANDLE" to

> use
>>> to resize it. Worked w/3 Gateway Techs. to no avail.
>>> Any idea how to fix?
>>>
>>> Thanks

>>
>>
>>.
>>



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Old 01-12-2005, 11:15 PM
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Cannot RE-size TABLET INPUT PANEL


>-----Original Message-----
>The TIP on a Gateway M275LS cannot be resized. It fills
>the full width of the screen. There is no "HANDLE" to

use
>to resize it. Worked w/3 Gateway Techs. to no avail.
>Any idea how to fix?
>
>Thanks
>.
>

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Old 01-13-2005, 06:16 AM
CONLEY
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Re: Cannot RE-size TABLET INPUT PANEL

Chris:

SP2 is now successfully installed. We cannot set an UNDOCK
indicator and as such the TIP keyboard cannot be moved or
resized. I have a .doc document which I will send to you
at your e-mail address so you can better visualize what is
happening.

I am trying to achieve what I see on Jeff Van West's site
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...etpc/expert/va
nwest_newtip.mspx

Is taht possible or is what he is discussing not yet
available? This seems like a simple item to resolve, but
to date we have not been able to make it happen. The
document I will send to your e-mail address is tip.doc.
>-----Original Message-----
>You cannot resize the original, especially in the Dock

mode. The Tablet PC
>Edition 2005 is much improved, including in recognition

and context input.
>I would suggest you make a sweep of your system with your

anti-virus program
>(and latest definitions), and use some of the free

malware detection
>programs (check www.aumha.org/secure.htm for

information), then either
>uninstall or remove your AV program from start-up before

installing.
>
>There is very good information about how to prepare

before installing XP SP2
>in MVP Charlie Russel's Expert Zone article here:
>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...urity/expert/r

ussel_installsp2.mspx
>Remember, too, that most Tablet PC manufacturers have

updated their
>model-specific drivers for Service Pack 2 on the Windows

XP Pro operating
>system. It is a good idea to visit the appropriate web

site and follow
>their instructions for the updates.
>--
>Chris H.
>Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
>Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
>Associate Expert
>Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>
>
>"Conley" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

message
>news:1a7201c4f7f4$6c1c2040$a501280a@phx.gbl...
>> Chris H. I am not yet using XP SP2. This is the OEM
>> version that shipped with the Tablet. I did see the
>> recommendation from Jeff Van West to install it. I will

do
>> that but the question is how to resize with the original
>> version or is it a bug. It was working but suddenly
>> changed, so the TIP cannot be re-sized.
>>
>> This machine has InocuLate-It and WEB Root installed. Do
>> they have to be uninstalled when I put SP2 on the

system?
>>
>> Thanks for your prompt response!
>>
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>Are you using the Windows XP SP2 and Tablet PC Edition

>> 2005? If so, the
>>>panel in Undock mode, will be smaller and located near

>> any recognized text
>>>input area when you have the pen near the screen and the

>> little "floating"
>>>Tablet Input Panel Access icon showing.
>>>--
>>>Chris H.
>>>Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
>>>Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
>>>Associate Expert
>>>Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>>
>>>
>>>"Conley" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

>> message
>>>news:210601c4f7eb$d0ec9f80$a401280a@phx.gbl.. .
>>>> The TIP on a Gateway M275LS cannot be resized. It

fills
>>>> the full width of the screen. There is no "HANDLE" to

>> use
>>>> to resize it. Worked w/3 Gateway Techs. to no avail.
>>>> Any idea how to fix?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>>.
>>>

>
>
>.
>

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Old 01-13-2005, 07:20 AM
Chris H.
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Re: Cannot RE-size TABLET INPUT PANEL

The Undock mode needs to be set in the Tablet Input Panel Options (the O on
the right of the panel), however once that's set if you launch the TIP with
a Gesture, it reverts to one of the Dock options. Perhaps that's where it
is tripping up.

If the TIP is set to Undock, the Tablet Access (floating TIP) icon will
appear onscreen only when the cursor is in a text input area AND you have
the pen within 1/2 to 3/4 of an inch of the screen so the digitizer
recognizes its presence.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"CONLEY" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:256301c4f977$efcd9a70$a501280a@phx.gbl...
> Chris:
>
> SP2 is now successfully installed. We cannot set an UNDOCK
> indicator and as such the TIP keyboard cannot be moved or
> resized. I have a .doc document which I will send to you
> at your e-mail address so you can better visualize what is
> happening.
>
> I am trying to achieve what I see on Jeff Van West's site
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...etpc/expert/va
> nwest_newtip.mspx
>
> Is taht possible or is what he is discussing not yet
> available? This seems like a simple item to resolve, but
> to date we have not been able to make it happen. The
> document I will send to your e-mail address is tip.doc.
>>-----Original Message-----
>>You cannot resize the original, especially in the Dock

> mode. The Tablet PC
>>Edition 2005 is much improved, including in recognition

> and context input.
>>I would suggest you make a sweep of your system with your

> anti-virus program
>>(and latest definitions), and use some of the free

> malware detection
>>programs (check www.aumha.org/secure.htm for

> information), then either
>>uninstall or remove your AV program from start-up before

> installing.
>>
>>There is very good information about how to prepare

> before installing XP SP2
>>in MVP Charlie Russel's Expert Zone article here:
>>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...urity/expert/r

> ussel_installsp2.mspx
>>Remember, too, that most Tablet PC manufacturers have

> updated their
>>model-specific drivers for Service Pack 2 on the Windows

> XP Pro operating
>>system. It is a good idea to visit the appropriate web

> site and follow
>>their instructions for the updates.
>>--
>>Chris H.
>>Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
>>Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
>>Associate Expert
>>Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>
>>
>>"Conley" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

> message
>>news:1a7201c4f7f4$6c1c2040$a501280a@phx.gbl...
>>> Chris H. I am not yet using XP SP2. This is the OEM
>>> version that shipped with the Tablet. I did see the
>>> recommendation from Jeff Van West to install it. I will

> do
>>> that but the question is how to resize with the original
>>> version or is it a bug. It was working but suddenly
>>> changed, so the TIP cannot be re-sized.
>>>
>>> This machine has InocuLate-It and WEB Root installed. Do
>>> they have to be uninstalled when I put SP2 on the

> system?
>>>
>>> Thanks for your prompt response!
>>>
>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>Are you using the Windows XP SP2 and Tablet PC Edition
>>> 2005? If so, the
>>>>panel in Undock mode, will be smaller and located near
>>> any recognized text
>>>>input area when you have the pen near the screen and the
>>> little "floating"
>>>>Tablet Input Panel Access icon showing.
>>>>--
>>>>Chris H.
>>>>Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
>>>>Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
>>>>Associate Expert
>>>>Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Conley" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>>> message
>>>>news:210601c4f7eb$d0ec9f80$a401280a@phx.gbl. ..
>>>>> The TIP on a Gateway M275LS cannot be resized. It

> fills
>>>>> the full width of the screen. There is no "HANDLE" to
>>> use
>>>>> to resize it. Worked w/3 Gateway Techs. to no avail.
>>>>> Any idea how to fix?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>.
>>>>

>>
>>
>>.
>>



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Old 01-17-2005, 05:16 PM
Jeff
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Re: Cannot RE-size TABLET INPUT PANEL

Hi Conley,

This is Jeff Van West writing and I'm happy to try and help. Sorry I didn't
see your post come by sooner. I'm only on this board about once a week.

Chris is correct that tablet Input Panel (TIP) in SP2 only appears undocked
when activated by the floating TIP icon. This requires that you have a
program that will invoke the floating TIP icon, that your pen is near the
screen, and that the cursor is in a place that will take text input. Unless
all three of these criteria are met you can't get a floating icon and open
the TIP undocked. (Don't ask me why the Undock command even exists on the
SP2 TIP opens because all it does is close the docked TIP.)

You can make the height writing area of the TIP (docked or not) taller or
shorter from the TIP options (Click the little gear symbol) -> Writing
Pad -> Amount of space between writing lines.

You can make the width of the writing area of the floating TIP longer or
shorter by opening the floating (undocked) TIP (See criteria above),
switching to the keyboard pad and then resizing the keyboard. The keyboard
is the only pad that has a resize "tab" to drag but it applies to entire
floating TIP. The resize tab is in the lower right of the keyboard.

Hope that helps.
Jeff Van West


"CONLEY" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:256301c4f977$efcd9a70$a501280a@phx.gbl...
> Chris:
>
> SP2 is now successfully installed. We cannot set an UNDOCK
> indicator and as such the TIP keyboard cannot be moved or
> resized. I have a .doc document which I will send to you
> at your e-mail address so you can better visualize what is
> happening.
>
> I am trying to achieve what I see on Jeff Van West's site
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...etpc/expert/va
> nwest_newtip.mspx
>
> Is taht possible or is what he is discussing not yet
> available? This seems like a simple item to resolve, but
> to date we have not been able to make it happen. The
> document I will send to your e-mail address is tip.doc.
>>-----Original Message-----
>>You cannot resize the original, especially in the Dock

> mode. The Tablet PC
>>Edition 2005 is much improved, including in recognition

> and context input.
>>I would suggest you make a sweep of your system with your

> anti-virus program
>>(and latest definitions), and use some of the free

> malware detection
>>programs (check www.aumha.org/secure.htm for

> information), then either
>>uninstall or remove your AV program from start-up before

> installing.
>>
>>There is very good information about how to prepare

> before installing XP SP2
>>in MVP Charlie Russel's Expert Zone article here:
>>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...urity/expert/r

> ussel_installsp2.mspx
>>Remember, too, that most Tablet PC manufacturers have

> updated their
>>model-specific drivers for Service Pack 2 on the Windows

> XP Pro operating
>>system. It is a good idea to visit the appropriate web

> site and follow
>>their instructions for the updates.
>>--
>>Chris H.
>>Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
>>Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
>>Associate Expert
>>Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>
>>
>>"Conley" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

> message
>>news:1a7201c4f7f4$6c1c2040$a501280a@phx.gbl...
>>> Chris H. I am not yet using XP SP2. This is the OEM
>>> version that shipped with the Tablet. I did see the
>>> recommendation from Jeff Van West to install it. I will

> do
>>> that but the question is how to resize with the original
>>> version or is it a bug. It was working but suddenly
>>> changed, so the TIP cannot be re-sized.
>>>
>>> This machine has InocuLate-It and WEB Root installed. Do
>>> they have to be uninstalled when I put SP2 on the

> system?
>>>
>>> Thanks for your prompt response!
>>>
>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>Are you using the Windows XP SP2 and Tablet PC Edition
>>> 2005? If so, the
>>>>panel in Undock mode, will be smaller and located near
>>> any recognized text
>>>>input area when you have the pen near the screen and the
>>> little "floating"
>>>>Tablet Input Panel Access icon showing.
>>>>--
>>>>Chris H.
>>>>Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
>>>>Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
>>>>Associate Expert
>>>>Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Conley" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>>> message
>>>>news:210601c4f7eb$d0ec9f80$a401280a@phx.gbl. ..
>>>>> The TIP on a Gateway M275LS cannot be resized. It

> fills
>>>>> the full width of the screen. There is no "HANDLE" to
>>> use
>>>>> to resize it. Worked w/3 Gateway Techs. to no avail.
>>>>> Any idea how to fix?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>.
>>>>

>>
>>
>>.
>>



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Old 01-18-2005, 06:16 AM
Jeff
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Re: Cannot RE-size TABLET INPUT PANEL

Hi Conley,

Jeff Van West here. Let me see if I can answer your question.

Chris is correct in saying that the SP2 TIP has no undock mode like SP1 did.
Instead, if you place your cursor in a spot that accepts text input (a place
where you could type something) and you bring your pen near the screen, the
floating TIP icon appears. Tap the icon and you get the floating (undocked)
TIP. As soon as you are done using the TIP in disappears. Some applications
can't invoke the TIP this way, so for those apps you must use the Docked
TIP.

Don't ask me why there is still a "undock" option on the TIP in SP2 since
undocking the TIP when docked is functionally the same as just closing it.

You can resize the TIP, but the height control and the width control are in
different places.

To change the height of the writing area on the TIP (both floating and
docked), tap the tools and options icon (gray gear) and choose Options. Tap
the Writing Pad tab and change the setting for amount of space between
writing lines.

To change the width of the TIP (floating only), invoke the floating TIP by
placing your cursor in a program that accepts text and tapping the floating
TIP icon with your pen. Next, switch to the TIP's on-screen keyboard. In the
lower right of the keyboard (and only the keyboard) is a tab to resize the
keyboard, and subsequently the width of the TIP. The new TIP size will
remain even when you switch back to writing pad.

Hope that helps
Jeff

"CONLEY" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:256301c4f977$efcd9a70$a501280a@phx.gbl...
> Chris:
>
> SP2 is now successfully installed. We cannot set an UNDOCK
> indicator and as such the TIP keyboard cannot be moved or
> resized. I have a .doc document which I will send to you
> at your e-mail address so you can better visualize what is
> happening.
>
> I am trying to achieve what I see on Jeff Van West's site
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...etpc/expert/va
> nwest_newtip.mspx
>
> Is taht possible or is what he is discussing not yet
> available? This seems like a simple item to resolve, but
> to date we have not been able to make it happen. The
> document I will send to your e-mail address is tip.doc.
>>-----Original Message-----
>>You cannot resize the original, especially in the Dock

> mode. The Tablet PC
>>Edition 2005 is much improved, including in recognition

> and context input.
>>I would suggest you make a sweep of your system with your

> anti-virus program
>>(and latest definitions), and use some of the free

> malware detection
>>programs (check www.aumha.org/secure.htm for

> information), then either
>>uninstall or remove your AV program from start-up before

> installing.
>>
>>There is very good information about how to prepare

> before installing XP SP2
>>in MVP Charlie Russel's Expert Zone article here:
>>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...urity/expert/r

> ussel_installsp2.mspx
>>Remember, too, that most Tablet PC manufacturers have

> updated their
>>model-specific drivers for Service Pack 2 on the Windows

> XP Pro operating
>>system. It is a good idea to visit the appropriate web

> site and follow
>>their instructions for the updates.
>>--
>>Chris H.
>>Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
>>Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
>>Associate Expert
>>Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>
>>
>>"Conley" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

> message
>>news:1a7201c4f7f4$6c1c2040$a501280a@phx.gbl...
>>> Chris H. I am not yet using XP SP2. This is the OEM
>>> version that shipped with the Tablet. I did see the
>>> recommendation from Jeff Van West to install it. I will

> do
>>> that but the question is how to resize with the original
>>> version or is it a bug. It was working but suddenly
>>> changed, so the TIP cannot be re-sized.
>>>
>>> This machine has InocuLate-It and WEB Root installed. Do
>>> they have to be uninstalled when I put SP2 on the

> system?
>>>
>>> Thanks for your prompt response!
>>>
>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>Are you using the Windows XP SP2 and Tablet PC Edition
>>> 2005? If so, the
>>>>panel in Undock mode, will be smaller and located near
>>> any recognized text
>>>>input area when you have the pen near the screen and the
>>> little "floating"
>>>>Tablet Input Panel Access icon showing.
>>>>--
>>>>Chris H.
>>>>Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
>>>>Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
>>>>Associate Expert
>>>>Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Conley" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>>> message
>>>>news:210601c4f7eb$d0ec9f80$a401280a@phx.gbl. ..
>>>>> The TIP on a Gateway M275LS cannot be resized. It

> fills
>>>>> the full width of the screen. There is no "HANDLE" to
>>> use
>>>>> to resize it. Worked w/3 Gateway Techs. to no avail.
>>>>> Any idea how to fix?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>.
>>>>

>>
>>
>>.
>>



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