Thanks for persevering. We know it works, but sometimes we just need to
figure out what's going on. On the .NET 1.1, it should be okay. If you
downloaded and saved the 1.1 version, you might keep it in mind if something
else goes awry. 8-)
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"Matno" <Matno@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1404CA5A-16F0-4FBF-A349-E2A27DEC6657@microsoft.com...
> Yeah, it's 1.1. However, I'm not sure when I updated. It could have been
> before or after I installed the recognizer pack.
>
> I think I should be thanking you. Not only for your time, but your
> response
> to that other post about multilingual text recognition (It reminded me
> about
> that). I kept thinking about when it was that this happened and decided
> to
> experiment. So it seems the solution was in the problem, just a matter of
> remembering (haha).
>
> Thanks again for your time, helping me with my small little pet peeve or
> annoyance. It sure looks nice and I have a little more real estate on my
> screen now (1400x1050)!
>
> ;)
>
>
>
> "Chris H." wrote:
>
>> You're just awesome! 8-) That's one to file away, thanks for posting
>> the
>> solution. I'm just curious, can you check in Add or Remove Programs to
>> make
>> sure the .NET install is listed as "Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1". If it
>> isn't you need to update it. The Tablet PC Edition 2005 needs the 1.1
>> version.
>> --
>> Chris H.
>> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
>> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
>> Associate Expert
>> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>
>>
>> "Matno" <Matno@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:6879F5BB-64C8-47FA-BD77-1BEFF3AA0FAB@microsoft.com...
>> > There weren't any error messages.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > In any case, I fixed it. So it seems the tablet recognizer pack didn't
>> > unload itself completely when I disabled it. So I had a revelation or
>> > hunch
>> > (hehe) that I should uninstall it if that was the culprit of the
>> > problem
>> > and
>> > was around the time this problem first surfaced.
>> >
>> > http://www.matno.com/tip-fixed.png
>> > http://www.matno.com/tip-fixed2.png
>> >
>> > As you can see it looks all better now. The docked tip is a decent 129
>> > PX
>> > height. :)
>> >
>> >
>> > "Chris H." wrote:
>> >
>> >> Please describe what "didn't work." I can't tell which or all of what
>> >> I
>> >> suggested failed, and at what point, whether there were error messages
>> >> or
>> >> not.
>> >> --
>> >> Chris H.
>> >> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
>> >> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
>> >> Associate Expert
>> >> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Matno" <Matno@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:CB80AD9D-3790-4237-B38D-66F6E5D3E459@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Argh it didn't work.
>> >> >
>> >> > "Chris H." wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Your undocked2 looks normal, however the other two aren't. Try
>> >> >> booting
>> >> >> your
>> >> >> system into Safe Mode (F8), and reinstalling the graphics driver.
>> >> >> What
>> >> >> screen resolution are you running? Does it make any difference if
>> >> >> you
>> >> >> change, reboot the system, and then change back?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> If that doesn't work, try going into the Command Prompt (not
>> >> >> Start/Run)
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> navigating to the C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft
>> >> >> Shared\Ink
>> >> >> directing. Once at the prompt, enter "regsvr32 inkobj.dll" without
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> quotation marks, then Enter and then "regsvr32 tpcps.dll" (without
>> >> >> quotes)
>> >> >> then Enter again. Restart your machine after finishing each of
>> >> >> those
>> >> >> two
>> >> >> modifications to the Registry.
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Chris H.
>> >> >> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
>> >> >> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
>> >> >> Associate Expert
>> >> >> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Matno" <Matno@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:2CABA8DA-B3CA-461E-AD53-6EA506DB8A69@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> > Here are some screenshots of what it looks like.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > http://www.matno.com/tip-docked.png
>> >> >> > http://www.matno.com/tip-undocked.png
>> >> >> > http://www.matno.com/tip-undocked2.png
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > The undocked2 looks the same in keyboard mode as well. The docked
>> >> >> > screenshot
>> >> >> > looks the same for the keyboard and writing pad modes. Also, the
>> >> >> > visual
>> >> >> > style
>> >> >> > again isn't the problem as it appears the same with the one that
>> >> >> > came
>> >> >> > default
>> >> >> > with Windows XP (Luna I think it's called?). Installation of the
>> >> >> > visual
>> >> >> > style
>> >> >> > I'm using didn't change anything either. I'm pretty sure the
>> >> >> > problem
>> >> >> > came
>> >> >> > about around the time I was playing with regional language
>> >> >> > options
>> >> >> > like
>> >> >> > seeing how japanese input on the TIP worked and speech
>> >> >> > recognition
>> >> >> > with
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > M200 microphones.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "Chris H." wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> Okay, perhaps we should back up a little bit here. Just how
>> >> >> >> much
>> >> >> >> "dead
>> >> >> >> space" are you seeing? With the Tablet PC Edition 2005, there
>> >> >> >> is
>> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> automatic recognition listed if you've not selected the
>> >> >> >> auto-insertion,
>> >> >> >> so
>> >> >> >> there is an area roughly 1/2 inch beneath the ..... line where
>> >> >> >> you're
>> >> >> >> writing the letter. If you write a single character, then run
>> >> >> >> your
>> >> >> >> pen
>> >> >> >> in
>> >> >> >> the area beneath the letter you've written it will give you
>> >> >> >> choices
>> >> >> >> of
>> >> >> >> recognized characters. Is this what you're seeing?
>> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> Chris H.
>> >> >> >> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
>> >> >> >> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
>> >> >> >> Associate Expert
>> >> >> >> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> "Matno" <Matno@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> news:F41AD21F-ACE9-4C5C-AD2B-9F7A040CEAB5@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> >> >I looked at the additional languages an even tried uninstalling
>> >> >> >> >the
>> >> >> >> >easter
>> >> >> >> > languages packs, but it didn't do anything. I removed
>> >> >> >> > everything
>> >> >> >> > from
>> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> > language options (like if there was a layout for dvorak or
>> >> >> >> > japanese
>> >> >> >> > input)
>> >> >> >> > and re-installed the tablet recognition features an nothing
>> >> >> >> > happened.
>> >> >> >> > I'm
>> >> >> >> > not
>> >> >> >> > showing the language bar on the desktop or taskbar. And my TIP
>> >> >> >> > isn't
>> >> >> >> > set
>> >> >> >> > to
>> >> >> >> > automatically recognize writing as text after a pause.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > "Chris H." wrote:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> Good. You might try taking a look at those additional
>> >> >> >> >> languages
>> >> >> >> >> then.
>> >> >> >> >> In
>> >> >> >> >> Control Panel/Regional and Language Settings/Languages
>> >> >> >> >> tab/Details
>> >> >> >> >> button/Settings tab to make sure you don't have a mix of
>> >> >> >> >> Default
>> >> >> >> >> input
>> >> >> >> >> language and the active language under Installed services.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Are you showing the Language Bar on the desktop or Taskbar,
>> >> >> >> >> or
>> >> >> >> >> using
>> >> >> >> >> Key
>> >> >> >> >> Settings (Settings tab, button near the bottom) to switch
>> >> >> >> >> languages?
>> >> >> >> >> I'm
>> >> >> >> >> asking because I haven't seen this issue, and am trying to
>> >> >> >> >> help
>> >> >> >> >> pinpoint
>> >> >> >> >> where it might be.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> In the Tablet Input Panel/Options/Character Pad, are you
>> >> >> >> >> using
>> >> >> >> >> "Automatically recognize writing as text after a pause"? If
>> >> >> >> >> that's
>> >> >> >> >> on,
>> >> >> >> >> try
>> >> >> >> >> removing the check mark and see if the Character Pad will
>> >> >> >> >> react
>> >> >> >> >> properly.
>> >> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> >> Chris H.
>> >> >> >> >> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
>> >> >> >> >> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
>> >> >> >> >> Associate Expert
>> >> >> >> >> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> "Matno" <Matno@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> >> news:12C5E906-7117-461C-987A-6145DB06941F@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> >> >> >I do have all the proper drivers installed. I think this
>> >> >> >> >> >stretch
>> >> >> >> >> >happened
>> >> >> >> >> > sometime when I installed the regional and language packs
>> >> >> >> >> > in
>> >> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> >> > regional
>> >> >> >> >> > and
>> >> >> >> >> > language options dialog box. Or sometime around the point I
>> >> >> >> >> > enable
>> >> >> >> >> > speech
>> >> >> >> >> > recognition and set that up. I have the Wacom drivers
>> >> >> >> >> > installed
>> >> >> >> >> > (the
>> >> >> >> >> > latest
>> >> >> >> >> > whatever that is), but I installed it after I had this
>> >> >> >> >> > problem.
>> >> >> >> >> > I've
>> >> >> >> >> > been
>> >> >> >> >> > tolerating the dead space up until now, but it's becomming
>> >> >> >> >> > an
>> >> >> >> >> > eye
>> >> >> >> >> > sore
>> >> >> >> >> > hehe.
>> >> >> >> >> > And the skin isn't the problem either as I did that after
>> >> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> >> > problem
>> >> >> >> >> > started
>> >> >> >> >> > happening.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > "Chris H." wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> Which Wacom driver are you running? I've got an M200
>> >> >> >> >> >> here,
>> >> >> >> >> >> and
>> >> >> >> >> >> am
>> >> >> >> >> >> not
>> >> >> >> >> >> seeing the issue you're seeing. Are you running any type
>> >> >> >> >> >> of
>> >> >> >> >> >> "skin"
>> >> >> >> >> >> on
>> >> >> >> >> >> your
>> >> >> >> >> >> system? And you do have all the XP SP2-specific drivers
>> >> >> >> >> >> from
>> >> >> >> >> >> Toshiba
>> >> >> >> >> >> installed?
>> >> >> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> >> >> Chris H.
>> >> >> >> >> >> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
>> >> >> >> >> >> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
>> >> >> >> >> >> Associate Expert
>> >> >> >> >> >> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> "Matno" <Matno@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> >> >> news:09AA96B5-B916-48FD-B7FC-C3D9A5664825@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> >> >> >> >I am running SP2, but this isn't a recent install. My
>> >> >> >> >> >> >drivers
>> >> >> >> >> >> >are
>> >> >> >> >> >> >all
>> >> >> >> >> >> >up
>> >> >> >> >> >> >to
>> >> >> >> >> >> > date. I have a Toshiba M200. It happens is both portrait
>> >> >> >> >> >> > and
>> >> >> >> >> >> > landscape.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > "Chris H." wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Are you running Windows XP SP2 and the Tablet PC
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Edition
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> 2005,
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> or
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> recently
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> installed it? If so, have you updated your drivers?
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Some
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> more
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> information
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> about your system, such as brand, which version of the
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> OS
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> and
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Tablet
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> PC
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Edition you're running, drivers and whether you're in
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> portrait
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> or
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> landscape
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> mode (or see this in both) would be helpful.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Chris H.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Associate Expert
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Matno" <Matno@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> message
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> news:D5BD7EBC-32A8-468E-9CD6-2226A54F6481@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > My TIP used to be ok. I'm not quite sure when or how,
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > but
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > my
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > TIP
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > is
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > stretched
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > vertically when I am in character pad mode. There is
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > a
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > lot
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > of
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > dead
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > space
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > at
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > the bottom and it's very annoying when I dock it.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>

You've solved the issue now but I just wanted to mention that I too
encountered this problem and eventually worked out that it was the
recognizer pack as well. The recognizer pack really screws up english input
(it forgets to insert spaces at the end of input lines as well).

Bieing able to input foriegn languages simply wasn't worth the hassle since
I don't do it often so I uninstalled the recognizer pack. A shame really
:(.

"Matno" <Matno@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:D5BD7EBC-32A8-468E-9CD6-2226A54F6481@microsoft.com...
> My TIP used to be ok. I'm not quite sure when or how, but my TIP is
> stretched
> vertically when I am in character pad mode. There is a lot of dead space
> at
> the bottom and it's very annoying when I dock it.

Could you detail, please, exactly what you had installed which caused the
problem. That is, which base language of Windows XP Pro are you running,
whether you're running XP SP2 and the Tablet PC Edition 2005 with the Tablet
2005 MUIRP. Do you have any additional ink programs running, like Office
2003, OneNote SP1, etc.?
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"Thong Nguyen" <tum@veridicus.spamless.com> wrote in message
news:eA1JMLk7EHA.3828@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> You've solved the issue now but I just wanted to mention that I too
> encountered this problem and eventually worked out that it was the
> recognizer pack as well. The recognizer pack really screws up english
> input (it forgets to insert spaces at the end of input lines as well).
>
> Bieing able to input foriegn languages simply wasn't worth the hassle
> since I don't do it often so I uninstalled the recognizer pack. A shame
> really :(.
>
> "Matno" <Matno@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:D5BD7EBC-32A8-468E-9CD6-2226A54F6481@microsoft.com...
>> My TIP used to be ok. I'm not quite sure when or how, but my TIP is
>> stretched
>> vertically when I am in character pad mode. There is a lot of dead space
>> at
>> the bottom and it's very annoying when I dock it.
>
>