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  #16  
Old 12-03-2004, 04:16 AM
Chris H.
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Re: Tablet PC / "Standard" Windows Software

And there are also issues with Remote Desktop and using a domain. If you
want to have some real fun sometime, use RD from one Tablet PC to another.
8-)
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"Woody" <usenet@alienrat.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In article <OXG0gDH2EHA.1264@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl>,
> winxpnews********.com says...
>> Please don't compare the digital Ink on a Tablet PC with the RitePen or
>> writing pad functions, Mickey. Pens on Tablets work with digitizing in
>> the
>> screen, and are not a third-party add-on. The reason "some" programs
>> don't
>> work properly is they are not programmed to identify the text input area
>> with context tagging. They're getting to that point, but some are
>> lagging.
>>

>
> However, some applications will never identify the text input area
> correctly due to either a lack of knowledge of tablets or a lack of
> current development (or a lack of demand).
> Some of those applications may be crucial to peoples use of the
> computer.
> Firefox wasn't a problem when the pre-SP2 floating tip option still
> existed, and is only now a problem, so maybe having that back as an
> option (only as an option, I prefer the in-place tip when it is working)
> would help with that software that will never be converted.
>
> Its easy to pick out firefox as being 'badly written' in this regard,
> but Command Prompt comes with every tabletPC, is written by Microsoft
> and isn't recognised by the tip either.
>
> --
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Old 12-03-2004, 04:16 AM
Mickey Segal
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It is possible to use the Address TextField in FireFox by first summoning
the TIP using its icon or gesture (waving the pen above the screen).
However, it would be better for this to occur just from selecting the
TextField.

I didn't mean to pick on FireFox in particular - I used it as an example
since it has come up in previous threads and is familiar to many people.

"Woody" <usenet@alienrat.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Firefox wasn't a problem when the pre-SP2 floating tip option still
> existed, and is only now a problem, so maybe having that back as an
> option (only as an option, I prefer the in-place tip when it is working)
> would help with that software that will never be converted.
>
> Its easy to pick out firefox as being 'badly written' in this regard,
> but Command Prompt comes with every tabletPC, is written by Microsoft
> and isn't recognised by the tip either.



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Old 12-03-2004, 04:16 AM
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In article <#hN5xbJ2EHA.2624@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl>, ignored@example.com
says...
> It is possible to use the Address TextField in FireFox by first summoning
> the TIP using its icon or gesture (waving the pen above the screen).


Or using the Firefox TIP plugin.

> However, it would be better for this to occur just from selecting the
> TextField.
>

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Old 12-03-2004, 04:16 AM
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In article <OGKSpTJ2EHA.3000@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl>,
winxpnews********.com says...
> And there are also issues with Remote Desktop and using a domain. If you
> want to have some real fun sometime, use RD from one Tablet PC to another.
> 8-)
>


If I managed to see more than one tablet at any time I could think of a
lot more fun things to do!

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Old 12-03-2004, 04:16 AM
Mickey Segal
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Re: Tablet PC / "Standard" Windows Software

A few days after Firefox 1.0 came out people were still arguing over whether
there was a 1.0-compatible plugin and whether it worked. Is everything
working yet? If so, where do we find the plugin?

"Woody" <usenet@alienrat.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Or using the Firefox TIP plugin.



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Old 12-03-2004, 04:16 AM
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Mickey Segal <ignored@example.com> wrote:

> A few days after Firefox 1.0 came out people were still arguing over whether
> there was a 1.0-compatible plugin and whether it worked. Is everything
> working yet? If so, where do we find the plugin?
>


It works fine.
<http://www.tabletpcbuzz.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=17827>

last page of that thread

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Old 12-03-2004, 04:16 AM
Mickey Segal
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I got the Firefox plugin file from:
http://web.mit.edu/andylin/www/tpctip.xpi
but how do you install it?

"Woody" <usenet@alienrat.co.uk> wrote in message
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> It works fine.
> <http://www.tabletpcbuzz.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=17827>
> last page of that thread



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Old 12-03-2004, 04:16 AM
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Mickey Segal <ignored@example.com> wrote:

> I got the Firefox plugin file from:
> http://web.mit.edu/andylin/www/tpctip.xpi
> but how do you install it?
>
> "Woody" <usenet@alienrat.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:1go6mkv.oloo3d1e23tx6N%usenet@alienrat.co.uk. ..
> > It works fine.
> > <http://www.tabletpcbuzz.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=17827>
> > last page of that thread


open it in firefox.
Either click on that link or save it to disk and open it from file->open
file

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Old 12-03-2004, 04:16 AM
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Woody wrote:
> Mickey Segal <ignored@example.com> wrote:
>
>
>>I got the Firefox plugin file from:
>>http://web.mit.edu/andylin/www/tpctip.xpi
>>but how do you install it?
>>
>>"Woody" <usenet@alienrat.co.uk> wrote in message
>>news:1go6mkv.oloo3d1e23tx6N%usenet@alienrat.co.u k...
>>
>>>It works fine.
>>><http://www.tabletpcbuzz.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=17827>
>>>last page of that thread

>
>
> open it in firefox.
> Either click on that link or save it to disk and open it from file->open
> file


I found the Tablet add-ins for Firefox 1.0 (not 1.0PR!!) made Firefox
crash about a dozen times a day. As soon as I uninstalled them, the
crashing stopped.

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Old 12-03-2004, 04:16 AM
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Mike Williams [MVP] <mikew@Nospam.mvps.org> wrote:

> Woody wrote:
> > Mickey Segal <ignored@example.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>I got the Firefox plugin file from:
> >>http://web.mit.edu/andylin/www/tpctip.xpi
> >>but how do you install it?
> >>
> >>"Woody" <usenet@alienrat.co.uk> wrote in message
> >>news:1go6mkv.oloo3d1e23tx6N%usenet@alienrat.co.u k...
> >>
> >>>It works fine.
> >>><http://www.tabletpcbuzz.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=17827>
> >>>last page of that thread

> >
> >
> > open it in firefox.
> > Either click on that link or save it to disk and open it from file->open
> > file

>
> I found the Tablet add-ins for Firefox 1.0 (not 1.0PR!!) made Firefox
> crash about a dozen times a day. As soon as I uninstalled them, the
> crashing stopped.


It works fine here. I want to look into doing a proper inking control
for firefox, although I haven't done any firefox stuff before. As soon
as I get my game done, I shall give it a shot.


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Old 12-03-2004, 04:16 AM
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Re: Tablet PC / "Standard" Windows Software

With the TIP in keyboard mode the TIP closes after each character is
entered. This is not a good advertisement for XP Tablet.

I think I'll wait for the next version.

"Woody" <usenet@alienrat.co.uk> wrote in message
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> open it in firefox. Either click on that link or save it to disk and
> open it from file->open file



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Old 12-03-2004, 04:16 AM
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I don't know why you and MVP Mike are having such problems; the
TIP extension posted on the Buzz works fine for me, and I leave
FF open for DAYS. Sometimes the TIP will get a little shy, and
then it won't come out to play, but that's not often or even
daily, and though I've now had my Tablet for over six months, I
still haven't learned how to PUT IT DOWN!

So once again I use IE only when I have to, like for Expert Zone
chats and our SharePoint web site.

The imp in me wants to suggest you guys update all your drivers
and defrag, but I'm just being a goofball. Will you forgive me?
I did resist the temptation yesterday.


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"Mickey Segal" <ignored@example.com> wrote in message
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> With the TIP in keyboard mode the TIP closes after each
> character is entered. This is not a good advertisement for XP
> Tablet.
>
> I think I'll wait for the next version.
>
> "Woody" <usenet@alienrat.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:1go6skz.15su3acr8hneeN%usenet@alienrat.co.uk. ..
>> open it in firefox. Either click on that link or save it to
>> disk and
>> open it from file->open file

>
>



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Old 12-03-2004, 04:16 AM
Chris H.
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Re: Tablet PC / "Standard" Windows Software

How far away from the screen are you moving the pen between letters? You
need to keep it within about 1/2 to 3/4 of an inch for the recognizer to
know it is there. If you're tapping the key, picking up the pen and moving
to another letter, you are probably causing the issue with your motion.
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"Mickey Segal" <ignored@example.com> wrote in message
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> With the TIP in keyboard mode the TIP closes after each character is
> entered. This is not a good advertisement for XP Tablet.
>
> I think I'll wait for the next version.
>
> "Woody" <usenet@alienrat.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:1go6skz.15su3acr8hneeN%usenet@alienrat.co.uk. ..
>> open it in firefox. Either click on that link or save it to disk and
>> open it from file->open file

>
>



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Old 12-03-2004, 04:16 AM
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MiniMage wrote:
> I don't know why you and MVP Mike are having such problems; the
> TIP extension posted on the Buzz works fine for me, and I leave
> FF open for DAYS.


With the extensions installed, FF can fail within a minute of being
launched - just crashes with my home page(s) sitting open.

Reinstalling FF and/or the extensions makes no difference, but the
crashing stops as soon as the extension is uninstalled. I had no
problems under 1.0PR build or earlier.
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Old 12-03-2004, 04:16 AM
Mickey Segal
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I was not pulling the pen away. The problem doesn't happen with the TIP in
other applications. In Firefox the problem only happens in the TIP keyboard
view, but unfortunately that is the view one would need most for the address
TextField in Firefox.

I remember someone else describing a similar problem, but I forget if it was
in a similar context.

"Chris H." <winxpnews********.com> wrote in message
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> How far away from the screen are you moving the pen between letters? You
> need to keep it within about 1/2 to 3/4 of an inch for the recognizer to
> know it is there. If you're tapping the key, picking up the pen and
> moving to another letter, you are probably causing the issue with your
> motion.



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