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Old 11-30-2004, 09:16 PM
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Mouse freeze and slow redraw on explorer and internet explorer

Hi everyone,

Just recently I became interested in tablet pc development and decided to
try what a recent article in the msdn stated. I bought a wacom digitizer
tablet, formatted my desktop pc and installed Tablet PC OS in it. Since the
OS is a superset of XP, I didn't think I was going to hit any brick walls.
Unfortunately, I did.

Everything is ok except explorer is unusually slow at redrawing itself at
times. For instance, when the task tray hides the inactive icons or you
click the arrow to show inactive icons, the mouse freezes and does not move
until all the icons are shown or hidden.

Also, when browsing through folders the mouse freezes for a second after
opening up a new folder which slows me down more than it seems. This also
happens sometimes when opening up a program group in the start menu.

The problem seems to be reduced almost entirely when using a limited user
account but it is very annoying when I have to use the administrator account.
The other odd part is that if I'm logged in as a limited user I can browse
my folders with hardly any delay but if I run a new instance of explorer
using the runas dialog, browsing in that window will cause the mouse delays
to begin happening again.

I was using regular XP Pro SP 2 before and I did not have any of these
problems. I have formatted my PC 3 times trying out different things to
resolve this problem but have had not luck. I'm using the same hardware as
before installing the tablet pc os and using the same drivers for all of my
components. The only new hardware I added was the digitizer tablet which I
made sure not to include on my last format but that did not help. I've
killed every task I could but none of them seems to make my mouse work
normally again.

I would be very grateful for any assistance as this is really annoying and I
have exhausted all of my possibilities short of removing the tablet pc os and
going back to xp sp 2 which I do not want to do unless I absolutely have to.
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Old 11-30-2004, 11:16 PM
Chris H.
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Re: Mouse freeze and slow redraw on explorer and internet explorer

You might try creating a new user account with Admin rights. Make sure
you've got all the current drivers for your computer installed. There were
a lot of changes made with XP SP2, and most OEM hardware suppliers have
updated their software. If you continue to have issues, you may want to
post to the microsoft.public.windows.tabletpc.developer newsgroup where
other developers run systems similar to what you're using.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"AM" <AM@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:23A512D8-5F29-4094-9B4A-A7C710601AA4@microsoft.com...
> Hi everyone,
>
> Just recently I became interested in tablet pc development and decided to
> try what a recent article in the msdn stated. I bought a wacom digitizer
> tablet, formatted my desktop pc and installed Tablet PC OS in it. Since
> the
> OS is a superset of XP, I didn't think I was going to hit any brick walls.
> Unfortunately, I did.
>
> Everything is ok except explorer is unusually slow at redrawing itself at
> times. For instance, when the task tray hides the inactive icons or you
> click the arrow to show inactive icons, the mouse freezes and does not
> move
> until all the icons are shown or hidden.
>
> Also, when browsing through folders the mouse freezes for a second after
> opening up a new folder which slows me down more than it seems. This also
> happens sometimes when opening up a program group in the start menu.
>
> The problem seems to be reduced almost entirely when using a limited user
> account but it is very annoying when I have to use the administrator
> account.
> The other odd part is that if I'm logged in as a limited user I can browse
> my folders with hardly any delay but if I run a new instance of explorer
> using the runas dialog, browsing in that window will cause the mouse
> delays
> to begin happening again.
>
> I was using regular XP Pro SP 2 before and I did not have any of these
> problems. I have formatted my PC 3 times trying out different things to
> resolve this problem but have had not luck. I'm using the same hardware
> as
> before installing the tablet pc os and using the same drivers for all of
> my
> components. The only new hardware I added was the digitizer tablet which
> I
> made sure not to include on my last format but that did not help. I've
> killed every task I could but none of them seems to make my mouse work
> normally again.
>
> I would be very grateful for any assistance as this is really annoying and
> I
> have exhausted all of my possibilities short of removing the tablet pc os
> and
> going back to xp sp 2 which I do not want to do unless I absolutely have
> to.



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Old 12-01-2004, 03:16 PM
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Re: Mouse freeze and slow redraw on explorer and internet explorer

Thank you for your reply Chris.

Unfortunately, I have logged in using multiple Admin accounts but they all
exhibit the same behavior. I have logged in as the local Admin account and I
have logged in as the domain admin account of my little domain setup at home
and they both have the same problem.

I will post this in the developers section so that hopefully someone can
help me with this.

Thanks again.

"Chris H." wrote:

> You might try creating a new user account with Admin rights. Make sure
> you've got all the current drivers for your computer installed. There were
> a lot of changes made with XP SP2, and most OEM hardware suppliers have
> updated their software. If you continue to have issues, you may want to
> post to the microsoft.public.windows.tabletpc.developer newsgroup where
> other developers run systems similar to what you're using.
> --
> Chris H.
> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> Associate Expert
> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>
>
> "AM" <AM@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:23A512D8-5F29-4094-9B4A-A7C710601AA4@microsoft.com...
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > Just recently I became interested in tablet pc development and decided to
> > try what a recent article in the msdn stated. I bought a wacom digitizer
> > tablet, formatted my desktop pc and installed Tablet PC OS in it. Since
> > the
> > OS is a superset of XP, I didn't think I was going to hit any brick walls.
> > Unfortunately, I did.
> >
> > Everything is ok except explorer is unusually slow at redrawing itself at
> > times. For instance, when the task tray hides the inactive icons or you
> > click the arrow to show inactive icons, the mouse freezes and does not
> > move
> > until all the icons are shown or hidden.
> >
> > Also, when browsing through folders the mouse freezes for a second after
> > opening up a new folder which slows me down more than it seems. This also
> > happens sometimes when opening up a program group in the start menu.
> >
> > The problem seems to be reduced almost entirely when using a limited user
> > account but it is very annoying when I have to use the administrator
> > account.
> > The other odd part is that if I'm logged in as a limited user I can browse
> > my folders with hardly any delay but if I run a new instance of explorer
> > using the runas dialog, browsing in that window will cause the mouse
> > delays
> > to begin happening again.
> >
> > I was using regular XP Pro SP 2 before and I did not have any of these
> > problems. I have formatted my PC 3 times trying out different things to
> > resolve this problem but have had not luck. I'm using the same hardware
> > as
> > before installing the tablet pc os and using the same drivers for all of
> > my
> > components. The only new hardware I added was the digitizer tablet which
> > I
> > made sure not to include on my last format but that did not help. I've
> > killed every task I could but none of them seems to make my mouse work
> > normally again.
> >
> > I would be very grateful for any assistance as this is really annoying and
> > I
> > have exhausted all of my possibilities short of removing the tablet pc os
> > and
> > going back to xp sp 2 which I do not want to do unless I absolutely have
> > to.

>
>
>

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Old 12-01-2004, 04:16 PM
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Re: Mouse freeze and slow redraw on explorer and internet explorer

Sorry, I didn't realize a domain was involved in it. When you're running
cross-platform, i.e., not totally Tablet-enabled, you will be seeing issues
because the "other" OS is not Tablet- or Ink-aware, such as described in
this Knowledge Base article:
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;814066 . There are
even known issues of running Remote Desktop from one Tablet PC to another.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"AM" <AM@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:77BED4C2-A1EA-48C0-A3B1-16F789B34604@microsoft.com...
> Thank you for your reply Chris.
>
> Unfortunately, I have logged in using multiple Admin accounts but they all
> exhibit the same behavior. I have logged in as the local Admin account
> and I
> have logged in as the domain admin account of my little domain setup at
> home
> and they both have the same problem.
>
> I will post this in the developers section so that hopefully someone can
> help me with this.
>
> Thanks again.
>
> "Chris H." wrote:
>
>> You might try creating a new user account with Admin rights. Make sure
>> you've got all the current drivers for your computer installed. There
>> were
>> a lot of changes made with XP SP2, and most OEM hardware suppliers have
>> updated their software. If you continue to have issues, you may want to
>> post to the microsoft.public.windows.tabletpc.developer newsgroup where
>> other developers run systems similar to what you're using.
>> --
>> Chris H.
>> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
>> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
>> Associate Expert
>> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>
>>
>> "AM" <AM@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:23A512D8-5F29-4094-9B4A-A7C710601AA4@microsoft.com...
>> > Hi everyone,
>> >
>> > Just recently I became interested in tablet pc development and decided
>> > to
>> > try what a recent article in the msdn stated. I bought a wacom
>> > digitizer
>> > tablet, formatted my desktop pc and installed Tablet PC OS in it.
>> > Since
>> > the
>> > OS is a superset of XP, I didn't think I was going to hit any brick
>> > walls.
>> > Unfortunately, I did.
>> >
>> > Everything is ok except explorer is unusually slow at redrawing itself
>> > at
>> > times. For instance, when the task tray hides the inactive icons or
>> > you
>> > click the arrow to show inactive icons, the mouse freezes and does not
>> > move
>> > until all the icons are shown or hidden.
>> >
>> > Also, when browsing through folders the mouse freezes for a second
>> > after
>> > opening up a new folder which slows me down more than it seems. This
>> > also
>> > happens sometimes when opening up a program group in the start menu.
>> >
>> > The problem seems to be reduced almost entirely when using a limited
>> > user
>> > account but it is very annoying when I have to use the administrator
>> > account.
>> > The other odd part is that if I'm logged in as a limited user I can
>> > browse
>> > my folders with hardly any delay but if I run a new instance of
>> > explorer
>> > using the runas dialog, browsing in that window will cause the mouse
>> > delays
>> > to begin happening again.
>> >
>> > I was using regular XP Pro SP 2 before and I did not have any of these
>> > problems. I have formatted my PC 3 times trying out different things
>> > to
>> > resolve this problem but have had not luck. I'm using the same
>> > hardware
>> > as
>> > before installing the tablet pc os and using the same drivers for all
>> > of
>> > my
>> > components. The only new hardware I added was the digitizer tablet
>> > which
>> > I
>> > made sure not to include on my last format but that did not help. I've
>> > killed every task I could but none of them seems to make my mouse work
>> > normally again.
>> >
>> > I would be very grateful for any assistance as this is really annoying
>> > and
>> > I
>> > have exhausted all of my possibilities short of removing the tablet pc
>> > os
>> > and
>> > going back to xp sp 2 which I do not want to do unless I absolutely
>> > have
>> > to.

>>
>>
>>



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Old 12-01-2004, 04:16 PM
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Re: Mouse freeze and slow redraw on explorer and internet explorer

I can understand this OS having some problems communicating over the network
with other non-tablet machines through remote desktop, etc. but the problems
I'm experiencing are all within the same computer. My computer with XP Pro
SP2 works fine, the same PC with Tablet PC OS SP2 has these issues when
browsing on the local machine.

I noticed this happened even before I got the machine to join the network
and my domain as I don't do PC formatting with the PC attached to a network
with an internet connection. Its not the best of ideas as the PC will have
not been patched and therefore not be very secure.

Thanks again for the help though. I'm glad that you are looking into this
problem and trying to help me out.

"Chris H." wrote:

> Sorry, I didn't realize a domain was involved in it. When you're running
> cross-platform, i.e., not totally Tablet-enabled, you will be seeing issues
> because the "other" OS is not Tablet- or Ink-aware, such as described in
> this Knowledge Base article:
> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;814066 . There are
> even known issues of running Remote Desktop from one Tablet PC to another.
> --
> Chris H.
> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> Associate Expert
> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>
>
> "AM" <AM@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:77BED4C2-A1EA-48C0-A3B1-16F789B34604@microsoft.com...
> > Thank you for your reply Chris.
> >
> > Unfortunately, I have logged in using multiple Admin accounts but they all
> > exhibit the same behavior. I have logged in as the local Admin account
> > and I
> > have logged in as the domain admin account of my little domain setup at
> > home
> > and they both have the same problem.
> >
> > I will post this in the developers section so that hopefully someone can
> > help me with this.
> >
> > Thanks again.
> >
> > "Chris H." wrote:
> >
> >> You might try creating a new user account with Admin rights. Make sure
> >> you've got all the current drivers for your computer installed. There
> >> were
> >> a lot of changes made with XP SP2, and most OEM hardware suppliers have
> >> updated their software. If you continue to have issues, you may want to
> >> post to the microsoft.public.windows.tabletpc.developer newsgroup where
> >> other developers run systems similar to what you're using.
> >> --
> >> Chris H.
> >> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
> >> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> >> Associate Expert
> >> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> >>
> >>
> >> "AM" <AM@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:23A512D8-5F29-4094-9B4A-A7C710601AA4@microsoft.com...
> >> > Hi everyone,
> >> >
> >> > Just recently I became interested in tablet pc development and decided
> >> > to
> >> > try what a recent article in the msdn stated. I bought a wacom
> >> > digitizer
> >> > tablet, formatted my desktop pc and installed Tablet PC OS in it.
> >> > Since
> >> > the
> >> > OS is a superset of XP, I didn't think I was going to hit any brick
> >> > walls.
> >> > Unfortunately, I did.
> >> >
> >> > Everything is ok except explorer is unusually slow at redrawing itself
> >> > at
> >> > times. For instance, when the task tray hides the inactive icons or
> >> > you
> >> > click the arrow to show inactive icons, the mouse freezes and does not
> >> > move
> >> > until all the icons are shown or hidden.
> >> >
> >> > Also, when browsing through folders the mouse freezes for a second
> >> > after
> >> > opening up a new folder which slows me down more than it seems. This
> >> > also
> >> > happens sometimes when opening up a program group in the start menu.
> >> >
> >> > The problem seems to be reduced almost entirely when using a limited
> >> > user
> >> > account but it is very annoying when I have to use the administrator
> >> > account.
> >> > The other odd part is that if I'm logged in as a limited user I can
> >> > browse
> >> > my folders with hardly any delay but if I run a new instance of
> >> > explorer
> >> > using the runas dialog, browsing in that window will cause the mouse
> >> > delays
> >> > to begin happening again.
> >> >
> >> > I was using regular XP Pro SP 2 before and I did not have any of these
> >> > problems. I have formatted my PC 3 times trying out different things
> >> > to
> >> > resolve this problem but have had not luck. I'm using the same
> >> > hardware
> >> > as
> >> > before installing the tablet pc os and using the same drivers for all
> >> > of
> >> > my
> >> > components. The only new hardware I added was the digitizer tablet
> >> > which
> >> > I
> >> > made sure not to include on my last format but that did not help. I've
> >> > killed every task I could but none of them seems to make my mouse work
> >> > normally again.
> >> >
> >> > I would be very grateful for any assistance as this is really annoying
> >> > and
> >> > I
> >> > have exhausted all of my possibilities short of removing the tablet pc
> >> > os
> >> > and
> >> > going back to xp sp 2 which I do not want to do unless I absolutely
> >> > have
> >> > to.
> >>
> >>
> >>

>
>
>

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Old 12-01-2004, 04:16 PM
Chris H.
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Re: Mouse freeze and slow redraw on explorer and internet explorer

Microsoft is looking into the issues, not I. I'm a user just like you. 8-)

What is your networking setup? Are you on 802.11b, g or a? The network
traffic could have an effect on what you're seeing when you're working with
a different machine.

Same for the Tablet running Windows XP Pro SP2 and the Tablet PC 2005
Edition. The normal, XP functions should not be hampered. If you're having
issues browsing, I'd suggest taking a look at the information here:
www.aumha.org/secure.htm. Even though we're running XP SP2 with the
firewall (and I'm behind a router, too), it pays to run programs like
AdAware, etc., quite often.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"AM" <AM@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:B875905C-692E-4E2B-99AF-AE40644DBAFC@microsoft.com...
>I can understand this OS having some problems communicating over the
>network
> with other non-tablet machines through remote desktop, etc. but the
> problems
> I'm experiencing are all within the same computer. My computer with XP
> Pro
> SP2 works fine, the same PC with Tablet PC OS SP2 has these issues when
> browsing on the local machine.
>
> I noticed this happened even before I got the machine to join the network
> and my domain as I don't do PC formatting with the PC attached to a
> network
> with an internet connection. Its not the best of ideas as the PC will
> have
> not been patched and therefore not be very secure.
>
> Thanks again for the help though. I'm glad that you are looking into this
> problem and trying to help me out.
>
> "Chris H." wrote:
>
>> Sorry, I didn't realize a domain was involved in it. When you're running
>> cross-platform, i.e., not totally Tablet-enabled, you will be seeing
>> issues
>> because the "other" OS is not Tablet- or Ink-aware, such as described in
>> this Knowledge Base article:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;814066 . There
>> are
>> even known issues of running Remote Desktop from one Tablet PC to
>> another.
>> --
>> Chris H.
>> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
>> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
>> Associate Expert
>> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>
>>
>> "AM" <AM@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:77BED4C2-A1EA-48C0-A3B1-16F789B34604@microsoft.com...
>> > Thank you for your reply Chris.
>> >
>> > Unfortunately, I have logged in using multiple Admin accounts but they
>> > all
>> > exhibit the same behavior. I have logged in as the local Admin account
>> > and I
>> > have logged in as the domain admin account of my little domain setup at
>> > home
>> > and they both have the same problem.
>> >
>> > I will post this in the developers section so that hopefully someone
>> > can
>> > help me with this.
>> >
>> > Thanks again.
>> >
>> > "Chris H." wrote:
>> >
>> >> You might try creating a new user account with Admin rights. Make
>> >> sure
>> >> you've got all the current drivers for your computer installed. There
>> >> were
>> >> a lot of changes made with XP SP2, and most OEM hardware suppliers
>> >> have
>> >> updated their software. If you continue to have issues, you may want
>> >> to
>> >> post to the microsoft.public.windows.tabletpc.developer newsgroup
>> >> where
>> >> other developers run systems similar to what you're using.
>> >> --
>> >> Chris H.
>> >> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
>> >> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
>> >> Associate Expert
>> >> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "AM" <AM@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:23A512D8-5F29-4094-9B4A-A7C710601AA4@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Hi everyone,
>> >> >
>> >> > Just recently I became interested in tablet pc development and
>> >> > decided
>> >> > to
>> >> > try what a recent article in the msdn stated. I bought a wacom
>> >> > digitizer
>> >> > tablet, formatted my desktop pc and installed Tablet PC OS in it.
>> >> > Since
>> >> > the
>> >> > OS is a superset of XP, I didn't think I was going to hit any brick
>> >> > walls.
>> >> > Unfortunately, I did.
>> >> >
>> >> > Everything is ok except explorer is unusually slow at redrawing
>> >> > itself
>> >> > at
>> >> > times. For instance, when the task tray hides the inactive icons or
>> >> > you
>> >> > click the arrow to show inactive icons, the mouse freezes and does
>> >> > not
>> >> > move
>> >> > until all the icons are shown or hidden.
>> >> >
>> >> > Also, when browsing through folders the mouse freezes for a second
>> >> > after
>> >> > opening up a new folder which slows me down more than it seems.
>> >> > This
>> >> > also
>> >> > happens sometimes when opening up a program group in the start menu.
>> >> >
>> >> > The problem seems to be reduced almost entirely when using a limited
>> >> > user
>> >> > account but it is very annoying when I have to use the administrator
>> >> > account.
>> >> > The other odd part is that if I'm logged in as a limited user I can
>> >> > browse
>> >> > my folders with hardly any delay but if I run a new instance of
>> >> > explorer
>> >> > using the runas dialog, browsing in that window will cause the mouse
>> >> > delays
>> >> > to begin happening again.
>> >> >
>> >> > I was using regular XP Pro SP 2 before and I did not have any of
>> >> > these
>> >> > problems. I have formatted my PC 3 times trying out different
>> >> > things
>> >> > to
>> >> > resolve this problem but have had not luck. I'm using the same
>> >> > hardware
>> >> > as
>> >> > before installing the tablet pc os and using the same drivers for
>> >> > all
>> >> > of
>> >> > my
>> >> > components. The only new hardware I added was the digitizer tablet
>> >> > which
>> >> > I
>> >> > made sure not to include on my last format but that did not help.
>> >> > I've
>> >> > killed every task I could but none of them seems to make my mouse
>> >> > work
>> >> > normally again.
>> >> >
>> >> > I would be very grateful for any assistance as this is really
>> >> > annoying
>> >> > and
>> >> > I
>> >> > have exhausted all of my possibilities short of removing the tablet
>> >> > pc
>> >> > os
>> >> > and
>> >> > going back to xp sp 2 which I do not want to do unless I absolutely
>> >> > have
>> >> > to.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>

>>
>>
>>



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Old 12-03-2004, 04:15 AM
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Re: Mouse freeze and slow redraw on explorer and internet explorer

Thanks again Chris. Based on your reply I think I should clarify some things.

First, to answer your questions, I'm on a wire-only network. No wireless
ethernet. Just a netgear firewall router, an 8 port switch and 9 machines.

I do not have any tablet PCs. All of my machines are regular desktops.
What I did was remove XP Pro from one of these machines (my main machine at
that) and install the tablet PC OS from my MSDN subscription. I read in an
article in the MSDN that you can use XP Pro to write tablet PC apps on your
desktop using Visual Studio and the tablet PC SDK but you won't get the ink
input panel and the control panel applet for the pen unless you have the
tablet PC OS installed.

The article said that you can install the tablet PC OS on a regular desktop
machine just make sure you have a digitizer tablet connected to the machine
otherwise you are not going to see any difference between the tablet PC OS
install and the regular XP installation.

I did just that and now I'm having these mouse/redraw problems. I get these
problems when using the desktop machine with the tablet PC OS. I'm not
trying to access any machines from the network through shares, remote
desktop, etc. I'm just browsing on explorer in the local machine with tablet
PC OS installed.

I would imagine something was going to go wrong but the problem is almost
completely gone when I log in with my regular user account. It still happens
but it is not as pronounced. It's definately not a lack of computer power.
I have a 2800 Athlon XP processor, 1GB of RAM, an nForce3 motherboard with
dual channel DDR, two SATA harddrives on RAID 0 for performance and a GeForce
5900.

I've kept my eyes on the task manager and explorer's CPU usages spikes up
while these freezes happen. It doesn't hit 100% usage (atleast I can't see
if it does) as it happens fairly quickly but it happens constantly and really
gets in the way of my work.

In any event, I will visit the link you kindly supplied.

"Chris H." wrote:

> Microsoft is looking into the issues, not I. I'm a user just like you. 8-)
>
> What is your networking setup? Are you on 802.11b, g or a? The network
> traffic could have an effect on what you're seeing when you're working with
> a different machine.
>
> Same for the Tablet running Windows XP Pro SP2 and the Tablet PC 2005
> Edition. The normal, XP functions should not be hampered. If you're having
> issues browsing, I'd suggest taking a look at the information here:
> www.aumha.org/secure.htm. Even though we're running XP SP2 with the
> firewall (and I'm behind a router, too), it pays to run programs like
> AdAware, etc., quite often.
> --
> Chris H.
> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> Associate Expert
> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>
>
> "AM" <AM@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:B875905C-692E-4E2B-99AF-AE40644DBAFC@microsoft.com...
> >I can understand this OS having some problems communicating over the
> >network
> > with other non-tablet machines through remote desktop, etc. but the
> > problems
> > I'm experiencing are all within the same computer. My computer with XP
> > Pro
> > SP2 works fine, the same PC with Tablet PC OS SP2 has these issues when
> > browsing on the local machine.
> >
> > I noticed this happened even before I got the machine to join the network
> > and my domain as I don't do PC formatting with the PC attached to a
> > network
> > with an internet connection. Its not the best of ideas as the PC will
> > have
> > not been patched and therefore not be very secure.
> >
> > Thanks again for the help though. I'm glad that you are looking into this
> > problem and trying to help me out.
> >
> > "Chris H." wrote:
> >
> >> Sorry, I didn't realize a domain was involved in it. When you're running
> >> cross-platform, i.e., not totally Tablet-enabled, you will be seeing
> >> issues
> >> because the "other" OS is not Tablet- or Ink-aware, such as described in
> >> this Knowledge Base article:
> >> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;814066 . There
> >> are
> >> even known issues of running Remote Desktop from one Tablet PC to
> >> another.
> >> --
> >> Chris H.
> >> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
> >> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> >> Associate Expert
> >> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> >>
> >>
> >> "AM" <AM@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:77BED4C2-A1EA-48C0-A3B1-16F789B34604@microsoft.com...
> >> > Thank you for your reply Chris.
> >> >
> >> > Unfortunately, I have logged in using multiple Admin accounts but they
> >> > all
> >> > exhibit the same behavior. I have logged in as the local Admin account
> >> > and I
> >> > have logged in as the domain admin account of my little domain setup at
> >> > home
> >> > and they both have the same problem.
> >> >
> >> > I will post this in the developers section so that hopefully someone
> >> > can
> >> > help me with this.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks again.
> >> >
> >> > "Chris H." wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> You might try creating a new user account with Admin rights. Make
> >> >> sure
> >> >> you've got all the current drivers for your computer installed. There
> >> >> were
> >> >> a lot of changes made with XP SP2, and most OEM hardware suppliers
> >> >> have
> >> >> updated their software. If you continue to have issues, you may want
> >> >> to
> >> >> post to the microsoft.public.windows.tabletpc.developer newsgroup
> >> >> where
> >> >> other developers run systems similar to what you're using.
> >> >> --
> >> >> Chris H.
> >> >> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
> >> >> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> >> >> Associate Expert
> >> >> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "AM" <AM@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:23A512D8-5F29-4094-9B4A-A7C710601AA4@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > Hi everyone,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Just recently I became interested in tablet pc development and
> >> >> > decided
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > try what a recent article in the msdn stated. I bought a wacom
> >> >> > digitizer
> >> >> > tablet, formatted my desktop pc and installed Tablet PC OS in it.
> >> >> > Since
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > OS is a superset of XP, I didn't think I was going to hit any brick
> >> >> > walls.
> >> >> > Unfortunately, I did.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Everything is ok except explorer is unusually slow at redrawing
> >> >> > itself
> >> >> > at
> >> >> > times. For instance, when the task tray hides the inactive icons or
> >> >> > you
> >> >> > click the arrow to show inactive icons, the mouse freezes and does
> >> >> > not
> >> >> > move
> >> >> > until all the icons are shown or hidden.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Also, when browsing through folders the mouse freezes for a second
> >> >> > after
> >> >> > opening up a new folder which slows me down more than it seems.
> >> >> > This
> >> >> > also
> >> >> > happens sometimes when opening up a program group in the start menu.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The problem seems to be reduced almost entirely when using a limited
> >> >> > user
> >> >> > account but it is very annoying when I have to use the administrator
> >> >> > account.
> >> >> > The other odd part is that if I'm logged in as a limited user I can
> >> >> > browse
> >> >> > my folders with hardly any delay but if I run a new instance of
> >> >> > explorer
> >> >> > using the runas dialog, browsing in that window will cause the mouse
> >> >> > delays
> >> >> > to begin happening again.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I was using regular XP Pro SP 2 before and I did not have any of
> >> >> > these
> >> >> > problems. I have formatted my PC 3 times trying out different
> >> >> > things
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > resolve this problem but have had not luck. I'm using the same
> >> >> > hardware
> >> >> > as
> >> >> > before installing the tablet pc os and using the same drivers for
> >> >> > all
> >> >> > of
> >> >> > my
> >> >> > components. The only new hardware I added was the digitizer tablet
> >> >> > which
> >> >> > I
> >> >> > made sure not to include on my last format but that did not help.
> >> >> > I've
> >> >> > killed every task I could but none of them seems to make my mouse
> >> >> > work
> >> >> > normally again.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I would be very grateful for any assistance as this is really
> >> >> > annoying
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > I
> >> >> > have exhausted all of my possibilities short of removing the tablet
> >> >> > pc
> >> >> > os
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > going back to xp sp 2 which I do not want to do unless I absolutely
> >> >> > have
> >> >> > to.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>

>
>
>

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Re: Mouse freeze and slow redraw on explorer and internet explorer

Ah! Okay, I seem to recall that in this conversation somewhere. I think I
also may have recommended posting the issues you're seeing to the
microsoft.public.windows.tabletpc.developer newsgroup for clarification of
how you're supposed to do what you're doing from the folks who are
developing programs on their desktops.

I know it can be done properly, and with the SDK 1.7 installed (I cheat and
read that newsgroup, too), but don't develop programs so don't have a clue
how it is done. 8-) I do know all the Tablet PC Edition environment and
subsequent programs like Windows Journal and OneNote heavily relied on
desktop dev and testing.

I'd suggest you check over in the other newsgroup, or do a little search for
some of the posts from Stefan Wick of Microsoft before asking. He may have
already covered the topic for you. 8-) Good luck with it!
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"AM" <AM@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:377167C8-3672-47F4-BFFD-6195A8B2D397@microsoft.com...
> Thanks again Chris. Based on your reply I think I should clarify some
> things.
>
> First, to answer your questions, I'm on a wire-only network. No wireless
> ethernet. Just a netgear firewall router, an 8 port switch and 9
> machines.
>
> I do not have any tablet PCs. All of my machines are regular desktops.
> What I did was remove XP Pro from one of these machines (my main machine
> at
> that) and install the tablet PC OS from my MSDN subscription. I read in
> an
> article in the MSDN that you can use XP Pro to write tablet PC apps on
> your
> desktop using Visual Studio and the tablet PC SDK but you won't get the
> ink
> input panel and the control panel applet for the pen unless you have the
> tablet PC OS installed.
>
> The article said that you can install the tablet PC OS on a regular
> desktop
> machine just make sure you have a digitizer tablet connected to the
> machine
> otherwise you are not going to see any difference between the tablet PC OS
> install and the regular XP installation.
>
> I did just that and now I'm having these mouse/redraw problems. I get
> these
> problems when using the desktop machine with the tablet PC OS. I'm not
> trying to access any machines from the network through shares, remote
> desktop, etc. I'm just browsing on explorer in the local machine with
> tablet
> PC OS installed.
>
> I would imagine something was going to go wrong but the problem is almost
> completely gone when I log in with my regular user account. It still
> happens
> but it is not as pronounced. It's definately not a lack of computer
> power.
> I have a 2800 Athlon XP processor, 1GB of RAM, an nForce3 motherboard with
> dual channel DDR, two SATA harddrives on RAID 0 for performance and a
> GeForce
> 5900.
>
> I've kept my eyes on the task manager and explorer's CPU usages spikes up
> while these freezes happen. It doesn't hit 100% usage (atleast I can't
> see
> if it does) as it happens fairly quickly but it happens constantly and
> really
> gets in the way of my work.
>
> In any event, I will visit the link you kindly supplied.



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Re: Mouse freeze and slow redraw on explorer and internet explorer

Thanks again Chris (I've said that like 5 million times already).

As you said, I will and already posted this on the developer's newsgroup.
Hopefully someone there has come across this as well as figured out a
solution for it.

"Chris H." wrote:

> Ah! Okay, I seem to recall that in this conversation somewhere. I think I
> also may have recommended posting the issues you're seeing to the
> microsoft.public.windows.tabletpc.developer newsgroup for clarification of
> how you're supposed to do what you're doing from the folks who are
> developing programs on their desktops.
>
> I know it can be done properly, and with the SDK 1.7 installed (I cheat and
> read that newsgroup, too), but don't develop programs so don't have a clue
> how it is done. 8-) I do know all the Tablet PC Edition environment and
> subsequent programs like Windows Journal and OneNote heavily relied on
> desktop dev and testing.
>
> I'd suggest you check over in the other newsgroup, or do a little search for
> some of the posts from Stefan Wick of Microsoft before asking. He may have
> already covered the topic for you. 8-) Good luck with it!
> --
> Chris H.
> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> Associate Expert
> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>
>
> "AM" <AM@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:377167C8-3672-47F4-BFFD-6195A8B2D397@microsoft.com...
> > Thanks again Chris. Based on your reply I think I should clarify some
> > things.
> >
> > First, to answer your questions, I'm on a wire-only network. No wireless
> > ethernet. Just a netgear firewall router, an 8 port switch and 9
> > machines.
> >
> > I do not have any tablet PCs. All of my machines are regular desktops.
> > What I did was remove XP Pro from one of these machines (my main machine
> > at
> > that) and install the tablet PC OS from my MSDN subscription. I read in
> > an
> > article in the MSDN that you can use XP Pro to write tablet PC apps on
> > your
> > desktop using Visual Studio and the tablet PC SDK but you won't get the
> > ink
> > input panel and the control panel applet for the pen unless you have the
> > tablet PC OS installed.
> >
> > The article said that you can install the tablet PC OS on a regular
> > desktop
> > machine just make sure you have a digitizer tablet connected to the
> > machine
> > otherwise you are not going to see any difference between the tablet PC OS
> > install and the regular XP installation.
> >
> > I did just that and now I'm having these mouse/redraw problems. I get
> > these
> > problems when using the desktop machine with the tablet PC OS. I'm not
> > trying to access any machines from the network through shares, remote
> > desktop, etc. I'm just browsing on explorer in the local machine with
> > tablet
> > PC OS installed.
> >
> > I would imagine something was going to go wrong but the problem is almost
> > completely gone when I log in with my regular user account. It still
> > happens
> > but it is not as pronounced. It's definately not a lack of computer
> > power.
> > I have a 2800 Athlon XP processor, 1GB of RAM, an nForce3 motherboard with
> > dual channel DDR, two SATA harddrives on RAID 0 for performance and a
> > GeForce
> > 5900.
> >
> > I've kept my eyes on the task manager and explorer's CPU usages spikes up
> > while these freezes happen. It doesn't hit 100% usage (atleast I can't
> > see
> > if it does) as it happens fairly quickly but it happens constantly and
> > really
> > gets in the way of my work.
> >
> > In any event, I will visit the link you kindly supplied.

>
>
>

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