I don't understand why Microsoft had to go and mess up the input panel iwith
SP2.

It's so bad I had to uninstall SP2.

Several issues thane with it

Kwick keys disappear when writing.
I've been accustomed to writing, then pressing enter to paste the text to a
field and include a carriage return for advancing to the next data field.
UP and Down Arrow keys are gone

l can't place the TIP where ++I++ want it !

l can't have two input areas,

'Undocked' in SP2 does +not+ work on my Avertec.
Attempting to reinstall tablet drivers under SP2 causes BSOD!

There's probably more warts, but I didn't discover them.

..TK

Discussion below. See -->.

"tkiehl" <tkiehl@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:E2E11AD8-54BD-4401-82AF-CED64DA2DBD9@microsoft.com...
>I don't understand why Microsoft had to go and mess up the input panel
>iwith
> SP2.
>
> It's so bad I had to uninstall SP2.
>
> Several issues thane with it
>
> Kwick keys disappear when writing.
--> That's the function unless you're in context sensitive input areas,
such as in Internet Explorer for an address line.

> I've been accustomed to writing, then pressing enter to paste the text to
> a
> field and include a carriage return for advancing to the next data field.
--> Options settings allow you to Insert with the button instead of a timed
automatic insertion. You may want to look at what is set.

> UP and Down Arrow keys are gone
--> Where were they? I don't recall such an animal in the original.
Perhaps I've just been using Tablet PC Edition 2005 too long. 8-)

> l can't place the TIP where ++I++ want it !
--> If you set the Tablet Input Panel to Undock, with the Tablet PC Edition
2005 you will have a Tablet Access icon ("floating" TIP icon) which will be
available whenever you're in a text input area.

> l can't have two input areas,
--> We didn't before, did we?

> 'Undocked' in SP2 does +not+ work on my Avertec.
--> What error message are you seeing? As I described above, "Undock"
presents a floating icon when you're near a text input area with the pen in
the close proximity of the screen.

> Attempting to reinstall tablet drivers under SP2 causes BSOD!
--> Try booting with F8 to enter in Safe Mode and then install the drivers.
When installing "live" you're trying to replace drivers which are currently
in use.

> There's probably more warts, but I didn't discover them.
>
> .TK
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone

I discovered one way to get the kwick keys back permenantly, and this has to
do with one of the options. Under options click character pad, and then under
that, in size of writing spaces, move the cursor to closer to the minimum,
and you'll find that the Kwick keys come back.

Good luck, RM



"tkiehl" wrote:

> I don't understand why Microsoft had to go and mess up the input panel iwith
> SP2.
>
> It's so bad I had to uninstall SP2.
>
> Several issues thane with it
>
> Kwick keys disappear when writing.
> I've been accustomed to writing, then pressing enter to paste the text to a
> field and include a carriage return for advancing to the next data field.
> UP and Down Arrow keys are gone
>
> l can't place the TIP where ++I++ want it !
>
> l can't have two input areas,
>
> 'Undocked' in SP2 does +not+ work on my Avertec.
> Attempting to reinstall tablet drivers under SP2 causes BSOD!
>
> There's probably more warts, but I didn't discover them.
>
> .TK
>
>
>
>
>

Chris,

I'm afraid you don't understand...

With delay set, yes it will paste the text, but only after the delay and
kwick keys are not visible unitl delay has ended. With the old pad, I could
click the enter key and immediately paste the text along with the carriage
return appended. Now that functionality is gone (yes you can click the past
button but alas no carriage return, or tab for that matter).

With the missing (up-down) arrow keys, yes I think you've been snookered by
2005 version too long.

Yes you could have two lines of input... yery handy for entering lots of
text, almost continuous input by writing in one entry cell then the other
then back to the first an so on.

With the Undock, I have to click yet another elusive +thing+ that pops up
when it's good and ready to pop up. I want my input panel there +all the
time+. (still can't click it!)

Oh, and where's the "Send as Ink" in SP2?

Somebody really lobotomized the input pael in SP2. While taking away good
functionality, the only thing it gives you additionally is the character by
character input (for lamers) and word lookup (again for lamers).

Really unhappy with the new SP2 input panel. There should be some way to
choose which one you want (or reinstall the old one in SP2).

Tom









"Chris H." wrote:

> Discussion below. See -->.
>
> "tkiehl" <tkiehl@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:E2E11AD8-54BD-4401-82AF-CED64DA2DBD9@microsoft.com...
> >I don't understand why Microsoft had to go and mess up the input panel
> >iwith
> > SP2.
> >
> > It's so bad I had to uninstall SP2.
> >
> > Kwick keys disappear when writing.
> --> That's the function unless you're in context sensitive input areas,
> such as in Internet Explorer for an address line.
>
> > I've been accustomed to writing, then pressing enter to paste the text to
> > a
> > field and include a carriage return for advancing to the next data field.
> --> Options settings allow you to Insert with the button instead of a timed
> automatic insertion. You may want to look at what is set.
>
> > UP and Down Arrow keys are gone
> --> Where were they? I don't recall such an animal in the original.
> Perhaps I've just been using Tablet PC Edition 2005 too long. 8-)
>
> > l can't place the TIP where ++I++ want it !
> --> If you set the Tablet Input Panel to Undock, with the Tablet PC Edition
> 2005 you will have a Tablet Access icon ("floating" TIP icon) which will be
> available whenever you're in a text input area.
>
> > l can't have two input areas,
> --> We didn't before, did we?
>
> > 'Undocked' in SP2 does +not+ work on my Avertec.
> --> What error message are you seeing? As I described above, "Undock"
> presents a floating icon when you're near a text input area with the pen in
> the close proximity of the screen.
>
> > Attempting to reinstall tablet drivers under SP2 causes BSOD!
> --> Try booting with F8 to enter in Safe Mode and then install the drivers.
> When installing "live" you're trying to replace drivers which are currently
> in use.
>
> > There's probably more warts, but I didn't discover them.
> >
> > .TK
> --
> Chris H.
> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> Associate Expert
> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>
>
>
>

Microsoft decided, based on the complaints regarding the initial Tablet
Input Panel, to make changes to the functionality users requested. Now, I
believe, the process is to figure out a combination of the two. 8-)

As for the TIP behavior, set the Options to no timed insert, and simply use
the Insert button. I agree the Enter button, along with others seems to be
backwards in operation. It takes a little different mindset to remember to
tap the Enter button AFTER using Insert for text entry. But in reality, we
complete a sentence and then hit the Enter key twice when we're typing.

Where are you missing "send as Ink?" Programs like Windows Journal, OneNote
and even Word 2003 are Ink enabled, without the Tablet Input Panel. You can
even do emails in Ink with Outlook 2003.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"tkiehl" <tkiehl@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:C263B19F-C90D-483E-A02D-AF13999FB6F9@microsoft.com...
> Chris,
>
> I'm afraid you don't understand...
>
> With delay set, yes it will paste the text, but only after the delay and
> kwick keys are not visible unitl delay has ended. With the old pad, I
> could
> click the enter key and immediately paste the text along with the carriage
> return appended. Now that functionality is gone (yes you can click the
> past
> button but alas no carriage return, or tab for that matter).
>
> With the missing (up-down) arrow keys, yes I think you've been snookered
> by
> 2005 version too long.
>
> Yes you could have two lines of input... yery handy for entering lots of
> text, almost continuous input by writing in one entry cell then the other
> then back to the first an so on.
>
> With the Undock, I have to click yet another elusive +thing+ that pops up
> when it's good and ready to pop up. I want my input panel there +all the
> time+. (still can't click it!)
>
> Oh, and where's the "Send as Ink" in SP2?
>
> Somebody really lobotomized the input pael in SP2. While taking away good
> functionality, the only thing it gives you additionally is the character
> by
> character input (for lamers) and word lookup (again for lamers).
>
> Really unhappy with the new SP2 input panel. There should be some way to
> choose which one you want (or reinstall the old one in SP2).
>
> Tom
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Chris H." wrote:
>
>> Discussion below. See -->.
>>
>> "tkiehl" <tkiehl@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:E2E11AD8-54BD-4401-82AF-CED64DA2DBD9@microsoft.com...
>> >I don't understand why Microsoft had to go and mess up the input panel
>> >iwith
>> > SP2.
>> >
>> > It's so bad I had to uninstall SP2.
>> >
>> > Kwick keys disappear when writing.
>> --> That's the function unless you're in context sensitive input areas,
>> such as in Internet Explorer for an address line.
>>
>> > I've been accustomed to writing, then pressing enter to paste the text
>> > to
>> > a
>> > field and include a carriage return for advancing to the next data
>> > field.
>> --> Options settings allow you to Insert with the button instead of a
>> timed
>> automatic insertion. You may want to look at what is set.
>>
>> > UP and Down Arrow keys are gone
>> --> Where were they? I don't recall such an animal in the original.
>> Perhaps I've just been using Tablet PC Edition 2005 too long. 8-)
>>
>> > l can't place the TIP where ++I++ want it !
>> --> If you set the Tablet Input Panel to Undock, with the Tablet PC
>> Edition
>> 2005 you will have a Tablet Access icon ("floating" TIP icon) which will
>> be
>> available whenever you're in a text input area.
>>
>> > l can't have two input areas,
>> --> We didn't before, did we?
>>
>> > 'Undocked' in SP2 does +not+ work on my Avertec.
>> --> What error message are you seeing? As I described above, "Undock"
>> presents a floating icon when you're near a text input area with the pen
>> in
>> the close proximity of the screen.
>>
>> > Attempting to reinstall tablet drivers under SP2 causes BSOD!
>> --> Try booting with F8 to enter in Safe Mode and then install the
>> drivers.
>> When installing "live" you're trying to replace drivers which are
>> currently
>> in use.
>>
>> > There's probably more warts, but I didn't discover them.
>> >
>> > .TK
>> --
>> Chris H.
>> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
>> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
>> Associate Expert
>> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>
>>
>>
>>

"tkiehl" wrote:

> I don't understand why Microsoft had to go and mess up the input panel iwith
> SP2.
>
> It's so bad I had to uninstall SP2.
>
> Several issues thane with it
>
> Kwick keys disappear when writing.
> I've been accustomed to writing, then pressing enter to paste the text to a
> field and include a carriage return for advancing to the next data field.
> UP and Down Arrow keys are gone
>
> l can't place the TIP where ++I++ want it !
>
> l can't have two input areas,
>
> 'Undocked' in SP2 does +not+ work on my Avertec.
> Attempting to reinstall tablet drivers under SP2 causes BSOD!
>
> There's probably more warts, but I didn't discover them.
>
> .TK
>
>
>
>
>

Regarding the input panel, after downloading sp2, the dictation portion of
the input panel follows my stylus around the desktop. It used to be "docked"
on top of the input panel and wrote as you spoke. Now it follows you around
the document, you can't see what it is writing, and you don't have the
opporunity to edit it before inserting. Has anyone else had this problem?

Thanks!

"tkiehl" wrote:

> I don't understand why Microsoft had to go and mess up the input panel iwith
> SP2.
>
> It's so bad I had to uninstall SP2.
>
> Several issues thane with it
>
> Kwick keys disappear when writing.
> I've been accustomed to writing, then pressing enter to paste the text to a
> field and include a carriage return for advancing to the next data field.
> UP and Down Arrow keys are gone
>
> l can't place the TIP where ++I++ want it !
>
> l can't have two input areas,
>
> 'Undocked' in SP2 does +not+ work on my Avertec.
> Attempting to reinstall tablet drivers under SP2 causes BSOD!
>
> There's probably more warts, but I didn't discover them.
>
> .TK
>
>
>
>
>

Could you explain more, Debbie? When you have the Tablet Input Panel in
Undock position with Tablet PC Edition 2005, there is a TIP Access icon
(floating icon) which will appear when you have the cursor within about 3/4
of an inch of the screen AND are in a text input area.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"Debbie" <Debbie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:4DC50258-0907-4B3A-8910-70935C1879C9@microsoft.com...
> Regarding the input panel, after downloading sp2, the dictation portion of
> the input panel follows my stylus around the desktop. It used to be
> "docked"
> on top of the input panel and wrote as you spoke. Now it follows you
> around
> the document, you can't see what it is writing, and you don't have the
> opporunity to edit it before inserting. Has anyone else had this problem?
>
> Thanks!
>
> "tkiehl" wrote:
>
>> I don't understand why Microsoft had to go and mess up the input panel
>> iwith
>> SP2.
>>
>> It's so bad I had to uninstall SP2.
>>
>> Several issues thane with it
>>
>> Kwick keys disappear when writing.
>> I've been accustomed to writing, then pressing enter to paste the text to
>> a
>> field and include a carriage return for advancing to the next data field.
>> UP and Down Arrow keys are gone
>>
>> l can't place the TIP where ++I++ want it !
>>
>> l can't have two input areas,
>>
>> 'Undocked' in SP2 does +not+ work on my Avertec.
>> Attempting to reinstall tablet drivers under SP2 causes BSOD!
>>
>> There's probably more warts, but I didn't discover them.
>>
>> .TK
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

I understand the floating icon. That is not what I am talking about...at
least I don't think so. When the TIP is docked, and I try to use the
dictation feature, a very small "speech bubble" follows my stylus around the
screen.

Before SP2, the speech component was docked along with the other three input
features: keyboard, character pad, and writing pad. The dication "pad" was
at the top of the other three. As I spoke, I could watch the words being
typed, and I could also see the volume detector/monitor. Now all I see is
the volume detector in a very small speech bubble. The words don't appear in
an editable manner. They are automatically inserted into the document. I
have to edit them in the document. It also seems slower.

The dictation component was much better before I downloaded SP2. Is there
anyway to get it reattaced to the TIP?

"Chris H." wrote:

> Could you explain more, Debbie? When you have the Tablet Input Panel in
> Undock position with Tablet PC Edition 2005, there is a TIP Access icon
> (floating icon) which will appear when you have the cursor within about 3/4
> of an inch of the screen AND are in a text input area.
> --
> Chris H.
> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> Associate Expert
> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>
>
> "Debbie" <Debbie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:4DC50258-0907-4B3A-8910-70935C1879C9@microsoft.com...
> > Regarding the input panel, after downloading sp2, the dictation portion of
> > the input panel follows my stylus around the desktop. It used to be
> > "docked"
> > on top of the input panel and wrote as you spoke. Now it follows you
> > around
> > the document, you can't see what it is writing, and you don't have the
> > opporunity to edit it before inserting. Has anyone else had this problem?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > "tkiehl" wrote:
> >
> >> I don't understand why Microsoft had to go and mess up the input panel
> >> iwith
> >> SP2.
> >>
> >> It's so bad I had to uninstall SP2.
> >>
> >> Several issues thane with it
> >>
> >> Kwick keys disappear when writing.
> >> I've been accustomed to writing, then pressing enter to paste the text to
> >> a
> >> field and include a carriage return for advancing to the next data field.
> >> UP and Down Arrow keys are gone
> >>
> >> l can't place the TIP where ++I++ want it !
> >>
> >> l can't have two input areas,
> >>
> >> 'Undocked' in SP2 does +not+ work on my Avertec.
> >> Attempting to reinstall tablet drivers under SP2 causes BSOD!
> >>
> >> There's probably more warts, but I didn't discover them.
> >>
> >> .TK
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

Depends on the settings you're using, Debbie. Take a look in the Tablet
Input Panel/Options, and also remember you need to train the speech unit in
Control Panel/Speech. You need to make sure you don't have Speech "on" all
the time, too. Are you using Speech in combination with a third-party
program, or just the built-in Speech program?
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"Debbie" <Debbie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:5D12D776-9CDB-45DF-AC6E-BAA44060B715@microsoft.com...
>I understand the floating icon. That is not what I am talking about...at
> least I don't think so. When the TIP is docked, and I try to use the
> dictation feature, a very small "speech bubble" follows my stylus around
> the
> screen.
>
> Before SP2, the speech component was docked along with the other three
> input
> features: keyboard, character pad, and writing pad. The dication "pad"
> was
> at the top of the other three. As I spoke, I could watch the words being
> typed, and I could also see the volume detector/monitor. Now all I see is
> the volume detector in a very small speech bubble. The words don't appear
> in
> an editable manner. They are automatically inserted into the document. I
> have to edit them in the document. It also seems slower.
>
> The dictation component was much better before I downloaded SP2. Is there
> anyway to get it reattaced to the TIP?
>
> "Chris H." wrote:
>
>> Could you explain more, Debbie? When you have the Tablet Input Panel in
>> Undock position with Tablet PC Edition 2005, there is a TIP Access icon
>> (floating icon) which will appear when you have the cursor within about
>> 3/4
>> of an inch of the screen AND are in a text input area.
>> --
>> Chris H.
>> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
>> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
>> Associate Expert
>> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>
>>
>> "Debbie" <Debbie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:4DC50258-0907-4B3A-8910-70935C1879C9@microsoft.com...
>> > Regarding the input panel, after downloading sp2, the dictation portion
>> > of
>> > the input panel follows my stylus around the desktop. It used to be
>> > "docked"
>> > on top of the input panel and wrote as you spoke. Now it follows you
>> > around
>> > the document, you can't see what it is writing, and you don't have the
>> > opporunity to edit it before inserting. Has anyone else had this
>> > problem?
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> >
>> > "tkiehl" wrote:
>> >
>> >> I don't understand why Microsoft had to go and mess up the input panel
>> >> iwith
>> >> SP2.
>> >>
>> >> It's so bad I had to uninstall SP2.
>> >>
>> >> Several issues thane with it
>> >>
>> >> Kwick keys disappear when writing.
>> >> I've been accustomed to writing, then pressing enter to paste the text
>> >> to
>> >> a
>> >> field and include a carriage return for advancing to the next data
>> >> field.
>> >> UP and Down Arrow keys are gone
>> >>
>> >> l can't place the TIP where ++I++ want it !
>> >>
>> >> l can't have two input areas,
>> >>
>> >> 'Undocked' in SP2 does +not+ work on my Avertec.
>> >> Attempting to reinstall tablet drivers under SP2 causes BSOD!
>> >>
>> >> There's probably more warts, but I didn't discover them.
>> >>
>> >> .TK
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>

Chris, I've been to Options, and I've done most of the voice training
passages. I don't have Speech "on" all the time. I am using Speech mostly
for emails and other short entries into Word, Excel, PowePoint, etc. I am
using the built-in Speech program.

I am not necessarily having a problem with it not recognizing my voice. It
seems to have pretty good accuracy. However, before I downloaded SP2, I was
able to see the words as I spoke them and then insert. Now, like I said
before, all I see are the sound detectors (whatever they are called) in a
tiny speech bubble that follows my stylus around. It is very irritating.

Does that make sense?

Thanks!

"Chris H." wrote:

> Depends on the settings you're using, Debbie. Take a look in the Tablet
> Input Panel/Options, and also remember you need to train the speech unit in
> Control Panel/Speech. You need to make sure you don't have Speech "on" all
> the time, too. Are you using Speech in combination with a third-party
> program, or just the built-in Speech program?
> --
> Chris H.
> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> Associate Expert
> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>
>
> "Debbie" <Debbie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:5D12D776-9CDB-45DF-AC6E-BAA44060B715@microsoft.com...
> >I understand the floating icon. That is not what I am talking about...at
> > least I don't think so. When the TIP is docked, and I try to use the
> > dictation feature, a very small "speech bubble" follows my stylus around
> > the
> > screen.
> >
> > Before SP2, the speech component was docked along with the other three
> > input
> > features: keyboard, character pad, and writing pad. The dication "pad"
> > was
> > at the top of the other three. As I spoke, I could watch the words being
> > typed, and I could also see the volume detector/monitor. Now all I see is
> > the volume detector in a very small speech bubble. The words don't appear
> > in
> > an editable manner. They are automatically inserted into the document. I
> > have to edit them in the document. It also seems slower.
> >
> > The dictation component was much better before I downloaded SP2. Is there
> > anyway to get it reattaced to the TIP?
> >
> > "Chris H." wrote:
> >
> >> Could you explain more, Debbie? When you have the Tablet Input Panel in
> >> Undock position with Tablet PC Edition 2005, there is a TIP Access icon
> >> (floating icon) which will appear when you have the cursor within about
> >> 3/4
> >> of an inch of the screen AND are in a text input area.
> >> --
> >> Chris H.
> >> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
> >> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> >> Associate Expert
> >> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> >>
> >>
> >> "Debbie" <Debbie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:4DC50258-0907-4B3A-8910-70935C1879C9@microsoft.com...
> >> > Regarding the input panel, after downloading sp2, the dictation portion
> >> > of
> >> > the input panel follows my stylus around the desktop. It used to be
> >> > "docked"
> >> > on top of the input panel and wrote as you spoke. Now it follows you
> >> > around
> >> > the document, you can't see what it is writing, and you don't have the
> >> > opporunity to edit it before inserting. Has anyone else had this
> >> > problem?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks!
> >> >
> >> > "tkiehl" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I don't understand why Microsoft had to go and mess up the input panel
> >> >> iwith
> >> >> SP2.
> >> >>
> >> >> It's so bad I had to uninstall SP2.
> >> >>
> >> >> Several issues thane with it
> >> >>
> >> >> Kwick keys disappear when writing.
> >> >> I've been accustomed to writing, then pressing enter to paste the text
> >> >> to
> >> >> a
> >> >> field and include a carriage return for advancing to the next data
> >> >> field.
> >> >> UP and Down Arrow keys are gone
> >> >>
> >> >> l can't place the TIP where ++I++ want it !
> >> >>
> >> >> l can't have two input areas,
> >> >>
> >> >> 'Undocked' in SP2 does +not+ work on my Avertec.
> >> >> Attempting to reinstall tablet drivers under SP2 causes BSOD!
> >> >>
> >> >> There's probably more warts, but I didn't discover them.
> >> >>
> >> >> .TK
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

Hi Debbie,

I know what you are talking about because I have the same problem. Maybe
someone will help!

Best Regards,

Joe
================================================== ====================
=?Utf-8?B?RGViYmll?= <Debbie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
news:B4394806-04A4-4CCF-A6B9-02C40F4D260B@microsoft.com:

> Chris, I've been to Options, and I've done most of the voice training
> passages. I don't have Speech "on" all the time. I am using Speech
> mostly for emails and other short entries into Word, Excel, PowePoint,
> etc. I am using the built-in Speech program.
>
> I am not necessarily having a problem with it not recognizing my
> voice. It seems to have pretty good accuracy. However, before I
> downloaded SP2, I was able to see the words as I spoke them and then
> insert. Now, like I said before, all I see are the sound detectors
> (whatever they are called) in a tiny speech bubble that follows my
> stylus around. It is very irritating.
>
> Does that make sense?
>


--
Best Regards,

Joe O

I'm looking into your issue, Debbie, not ignoring you. But it is the
weekend, girls are home from school, and we're busy. 8-) Don't mean to
leave you hanging, but real life calls.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"Debbie" <Debbie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:B4394806-04A4-4CCF-A6B9-02C40F4D260B@microsoft.com...
> Chris, I've been to Options, and I've done most of the voice training
> passages. I don't have Speech "on" all the time. I am using Speech
> mostly
> for emails and other short entries into Word, Excel, PowePoint, etc. I am
> using the built-in Speech program.
>
> I am not necessarily having a problem with it not recognizing my voice.
> It
> seems to have pretty good accuracy. However, before I downloaded SP2, I
> was
> able to see the words as I spoke them and then insert. Now, like I said
> before, all I see are the sound detectors (whatever they are called) in a
> tiny speech bubble that follows my stylus around. It is very irritating.
>
> Does that make sense?
>
> Thanks!
>
> "Chris H." wrote:
>
>> Depends on the settings you're using, Debbie. Take a look in the Tablet
>> Input Panel/Options, and also remember you need to train the speech unit
>> in
>> Control Panel/Speech. You need to make sure you don't have Speech "on"
>> all
>> the time, too. Are you using Speech in combination with a third-party
>> program, or just the built-in Speech program?
>> --
>> Chris H.
>> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
>> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
>> Associate Expert
>> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>
>>
>> "Debbie" <Debbie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:5D12D776-9CDB-45DF-AC6E-BAA44060B715@microsoft.com...
>> >I understand the floating icon. That is not what I am talking
>> >about...at
>> > least I don't think so. When the TIP is docked, and I try to use the
>> > dictation feature, a very small "speech bubble" follows my stylus
>> > around
>> > the
>> > screen.
>> >
>> > Before SP2, the speech component was docked along with the other three
>> > input
>> > features: keyboard, character pad, and writing pad. The dication "pad"
>> > was
>> > at the top of the other three. As I spoke, I could watch the words
>> > being
>> > typed, and I could also see the volume detector/monitor. Now all I see
>> > is
>> > the volume detector in a very small speech bubble. The words don't
>> > appear
>> > in
>> > an editable manner. They are automatically inserted into the document.
>> > I
>> > have to edit them in the document. It also seems slower.
>> >
>> > The dictation component was much better before I downloaded SP2. Is
>> > there
>> > anyway to get it reattaced to the TIP?
>> >
>> > "Chris H." wrote:
>> >
>> >> Could you explain more, Debbie? When you have the Tablet Input Panel
>> >> in
>> >> Undock position with Tablet PC Edition 2005, there is a TIP Access
>> >> icon
>> >> (floating icon) which will appear when you have the cursor within
>> >> about
>> >> 3/4
>> >> of an inch of the screen AND are in a text input area.
>> >> --
>> >> Chris H.
>> >> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
>> >> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
>> >> Associate Expert
>> >> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Debbie" <Debbie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:4DC50258-0907-4B3A-8910-70935C1879C9@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Regarding the input panel, after downloading sp2, the dictation
>> >> > portion
>> >> > of
>> >> > the input panel follows my stylus around the desktop. It used to be
>> >> > "docked"
>> >> > on top of the input panel and wrote as you spoke. Now it follows
>> >> > you
>> >> > around
>> >> > the document, you can't see what it is writing, and you don't have
>> >> > the
>> >> > opporunity to edit it before inserting. Has anyone else had this
>> >> > problem?
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks!
>> >> >
>> >> > "tkiehl" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> I don't understand why Microsoft had to go and mess up the input
>> >> >> panel
>> >> >> iwith
>> >> >> SP2.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It's so bad I had to uninstall SP2.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Several issues thane with it
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Kwick keys disappear when writing.
>> >> >> I've been accustomed to writing, then pressing enter to paste the
>> >> >> text
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> a
>> >> >> field and include a carriage return for advancing to the next data
>> >> >> field.
>> >> >> UP and Down Arrow keys are gone
>> >> >>
>> >> >> l can't place the TIP where ++I++ want it !
>> >> >>
>> >> >> l can't have two input areas,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 'Undocked' in SP2 does +not+ work on my Avertec.
>> >> >> Attempting to reinstall tablet drivers under SP2 causes BSOD!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> There's probably more warts, but I didn't discover them.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> .TK
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>

Your suggestion does Not seem to be Working for me. Bummer ;( darn it

"R. Majithia" wrote:

> I discovered one way to get the kwick keys back permenantly, and this has to
> do with one of the options. Under options click character pad, and then under
> that, in size of writing spaces, move the cursor to closer to the minimum,
> and you'll find that the Kwick keys come back.
>
> Good luck, RM
>
>
>
> "tkiehl" wrote:
>
> > I don't understand why Microsoft had to go and mess up the input panel iwith
> > SP2.
> >
> > It's so bad I had to uninstall SP2.
> >
> > Several issues thane with it
> >
> > Kwick keys disappear when writing.
> > I've been accustomed to writing, then pressing enter to paste the text to a
> > field and include a carriage return for advancing to the next data field.
> > UP and Down Arrow keys are gone
> >
> > l can't place the TIP where ++I++ want it !
> >
> > l can't have two input areas,
> >
> > 'Undocked' in SP2 does +not+ work on my Avertec.
> > Attempting to reinstall tablet drivers under SP2 causes BSOD!
> >
> > There's probably more warts, but I didn't discover them.
> >
> > .TK
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

Thanks, Chris. There now seems to be two of us with the same problem...Debbie

"Chris H." wrote:

> I'm looking into your issue, Debbie, not ignoring you. But it is the
> weekend, girls are home from school, and we're busy. 8-) Don't mean to
> leave you hanging, but real life calls.
> --
> Chris H.
> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> Associate Expert
> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>
>
> "Debbie" <Debbie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:B4394806-04A4-4CCF-A6B9-02C40F4D260B@microsoft.com...
> > Chris, I've been to Options, and I've done most of the voice training
> > passages. I don't have Speech "on" all the time. I am using Speech
> > mostly
> > for emails and other short entries into Word, Excel, PowePoint, etc. I am
> > using the built-in Speech program.
> >
> > I am not necessarily having a problem with it not recognizing my voice.
> > It
> > seems to have pretty good accuracy. However, before I downloaded SP2, I
> > was
> > able to see the words as I spoke them and then insert. Now, like I said
> > before, all I see are the sound detectors (whatever they are called) in a
> > tiny speech bubble that follows my stylus around. It is very irritating.
> >
> > Does that make sense?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > "Chris H." wrote:
> >
> >> Depends on the settings you're using, Debbie. Take a look in the Tablet
> >> Input Panel/Options, and also remember you need to train the speech unit
> >> in
> >> Control Panel/Speech. You need to make sure you don't have Speech "on"
> >> all
> >> the time, too. Are you using Speech in combination with a third-party
> >> program, or just the built-in Speech program?
> >> --
> >> Chris H.
> >> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
> >> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> >> Associate Expert
> >> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> >>
> >>
> >> "Debbie" <Debbie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:5D12D776-9CDB-45DF-AC6E-BAA44060B715@microsoft.com...
> >> >I understand the floating icon. That is not what I am talking
> >> >about...at
> >> > least I don't think so. When the TIP is docked, and I try to use the
> >> > dictation feature, a very small "speech bubble" follows my stylus
> >> > around
> >> > the
> >> > screen.
> >> >
> >> > Before SP2, the speech component was docked along with the other three
> >> > input
> >> > features: keyboard, character pad, and writing pad. The dication "pad"
> >> > was
> >> > at the top of the other three. As I spoke, I could watch the words
> >> > being
> >> > typed, and I could also see the volume detector/monitor. Now all I see
> >> > is
> >> > the volume detector in a very small speech bubble. The words don't
> >> > appear
> >> > in
> >> > an editable manner. They are automatically inserted into the document.
> >> > I
> >> > have to edit them in the document. It also seems slower.
> >> >
> >> > The dictation component was much better before I downloaded SP2. Is
> >> > there
> >> > anyway to get it reattaced to the TIP?
> >> >
> >> > "Chris H." wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Could you explain more, Debbie? When you have the Tablet Input Panel
> >> >> in
> >> >> Undock position with Tablet PC Edition 2005, there is a TIP Access
> >> >> icon
> >> >> (floating icon) which will appear when you have the cursor within
> >> >> about
> >> >> 3/4
> >> >> of an inch of the screen AND are in a text input area.
> >> >> --
> >> >> Chris H.
> >> >> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
> >> >> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> >> >> Associate Expert
> >> >> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "Debbie" <Debbie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:4DC50258-0907-4B3A-8910-70935C1879C9@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > Regarding the input panel, after downloading sp2, the dictation
> >> >> > portion
> >> >> > of
> >> >> > the input panel follows my stylus around the desktop. It used to be
> >> >> > "docked"
> >> >> > on top of the input panel and wrote as you spoke. Now it follows
> >> >> > you
> >> >> > around
> >> >> > the document, you can't see what it is writing, and you don't have
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > opporunity to edit it before inserting. Has anyone else had this
> >> >> > problem?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanks!
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "tkiehl" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> I don't understand why Microsoft had to go and mess up the input
> >> >> >> panel
> >> >> >> iwith
> >> >> >> SP2.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> It's so bad I had to uninstall SP2.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Several issues thane with it
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Kwick keys disappear when writing.
> >> >> >> I've been accustomed to writing, then pressing enter to paste the
> >> >> >> text
> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> a
> >> >> >> field and include a carriage return for advancing to the next data
> >> >> >> field.
> >> >> >> UP and Down Arrow keys are gone
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> l can't place the TIP where ++I++ want it !
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> l can't have two input areas,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> 'Undocked' in SP2 does +not+ work on my Avertec.
> >> >> >> Attempting to reinstall tablet drivers under SP2 causes BSOD!
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> There's probably more warts, but I didn't discover them.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> .TK
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>