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Old 09-25-2004, 02:03 PM
Aaron
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Toshiba or Motion computing

Hi
I'm planning to buy a tablet pc. I did some research and two tpc on the top
of list right now are the toshiba m200 and motion computing m1400.
Can somebody who have seen or used both of them give me some advice?
My main concern is speed.

PS: Will upgrading the memory from 512 to 1024mb greatly improve the
performance?

Thanks
Aaron


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Old 09-25-2004, 02:03 PM
Charlie Russel - MVP
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Re: Toshiba or Motion computing

Both are very good machines. And yes, upgrading the RAM will make a
significant performance increase for some users. Not as big a one as going
from 256 to 512, but significant.

They are very different machines -- My real question for you is how important
it is to have a permanently attached keyboard. If that's important, go with
the M200. If having a somewhat thinner and lighter machine is more important,
go with the Motion. If you want to be able to use your tablet outside, go
with the Motion -- there's no comparision on this one, the outside screen for
the Motion is good, and there isn't one for the Toshiba.


--
Charlie.

Aaron wrote:
> Hi
> I'm planning to buy a tablet pc. I did some research and two tpc on
> the top of list right now are the toshiba m200 and motion computing
> m1400. Can somebody who have seen or used both of them give me some advice?
> My main concern is speed.
>
> PS: Will upgrading the memory from 512 to 1024mb greatly improve the
> performance?
>
> Thanks
> Aaron



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Old 09-25-2004, 02:03 PM
Chris H.
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Re: Toshiba or Motion computing

Hard to recommend between the two, Aaron. The Motion 1400 is a nice slate
model machine, even nicer if you can afford the View Anywhere screen. The
Toshiba is one of the premier convertible models, and really a great
workhorse. Either one will give you all kinds of power if you pump up to a
gig of RAM.

The only recommendation on either one would be to go with a third-party
supplier (like Crucial) for your RAM, and give the machine of your choice as
much as you can afford. Tablet PC MVP Terri Stratton has both on her
comparison charts at http://thetabletpc.net .
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"Aaron" <kuya789******.com> wrote in message
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> Hi
> I'm planning to buy a tablet pc. I did some research and two tpc on the
> top of list right now are the toshiba m200 and motion computing m1400.
> Can somebody who have seen or used both of them give me some advice?
> My main concern is speed.
>
> PS: Will upgrading the memory from 512 to 1024mb greatly improve the
> performance?
>
> Thanks
> Aaron
>



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Old 09-25-2004, 02:04 PM
Aaron
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Re: Toshiba or Motion computing

I would definately like a permanently attacked keyboard as I can type much
faster than I write. How is the keyboard on the M200?
and how is the battery life between the two?


"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
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> Both are very good machines. And yes, upgrading the RAM will make a
> significant performance increase for some users. Not as big a one as going
> from 256 to 512, but significant.
>
> They are very different machines -- My real question for you is how
> important it is to have a permanently attached keyboard. If that's
> important, go with the M200. If having a somewhat thinner and lighter
> machine is more important, go with the Motion. If you want to be able to
> use your tablet outside, go with the Motion -- there's no comparision on
> this one, the outside screen for the Motion is good, and there isn't one
> for the Toshiba.
>
>
> --
> Charlie.
>
> Aaron wrote:
>> Hi
>> I'm planning to buy a tablet pc. I did some research and two tpc on
>> the top of list right now are the toshiba m200 and motion computing
>> m1400. Can somebody who have seen or used both of them give me some
>> advice?
>> My main concern is speed.
>>
>> PS: Will upgrading the memory from 512 to 1024mb greatly improve the
>> performance?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Aaron

>
>



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Old 09-25-2004, 07:02 PM
Charlie Russel - MVP
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Re: Toshiba or Motion computing

The keyboard on the M200 is ok, but basically a standard toshiba laptop
keyboard. IOW, not great but one can adapt. OTOH, the keyboard that attaches
to the Motion is, IMHO, slightly better. Battery life? I really don't have a
feel for that. But for when I'm mobile, I'd rather be carrying the Motion.
Mostly because of the thickness.

--
Charlie.

Aaron wrote:
> I would definately like a permanently attacked keyboard as I can type
> much faster than I write. How is the keyboard on the M200?
> and how is the battery life between the two?
>
>
> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in
> message news:eyVqjVsoEHA.2764@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>> Both are very good machines. And yes, upgrading the RAM will make a
>> significant performance increase for some users. Not as big a one as
>> going from 256 to 512, but significant.
>>
>> They are very different machines -- My real question for you is how
>> important it is to have a permanently attached keyboard. If that's
>> important, go with the M200. If having a somewhat thinner and lighter
>> machine is more important, go with the Motion. If you want to be
>> able to use your tablet outside, go with the Motion -- there's no
>> comparision on this one, the outside screen for the Motion is good,
>> and there isn't one for the Toshiba.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Charlie.
>>
>> Aaron wrote:
>>> Hi
>>> I'm planning to buy a tablet pc. I did some research and two tpc on
>>> the top of list right now are the toshiba m200 and motion computing
>>> m1400. Can somebody who have seen or used both of them give me some
>>> advice?
>>> My main concern is speed.
>>>
>>> PS: Will upgrading the memory from 512 to 1024mb greatly improve the
>>> performance?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Aaron



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Old 09-25-2004, 07:02 PM
Chris H.
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Re: Toshiba or Motion computing

A comparison of battery life is subjective by the way the user has the
Tablet PC set up, Aaron. There are a lot of things which can be done to
extend battery life, like shutting off certain items like infrared or
wireless when not being used. Again, that depends on how the user wants the
Tablet performing. There is no reason to have certain things active,
polling for availability if one doesn't use them, and we certainly can cut
down on the desktop displays and fancy menu fade/slide modes.

Why have wireless enabled and checking for a connection constantly if you
don't need it?

As for typing, I believe most of us can type faster than using the pen for
writing, but if you're in a meeting and wants to take notes without
interjecting your computer into the gathering, note taking while cradling
your Tablet in your arm instead of pounding away on a keyboard is quieter
and a whole lot less intrusive.

As Charlie says, he prefers the slate because of the thickness - or rather
the lack thereof - however, I tend to prefer the M200 which is less than
approximately 1/2 inch thicker in slate mode.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"Aaron" <kuya789******.com> wrote in message
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>I would definately like a permanently attacked keyboard as I can type much
>faster than I write. How is the keyboard on the M200?
> and how is the battery life between the two?



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Old 12-03-2004, 04:16 AM
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Re: Toshiba or Motion computing

Just saw your posts. If have not yet purchased, I'm using the M200 a solid 12
hours/day and love it. DEFINATELY upgrade the memory to 1M. I'm about to do
so and will have to "eat the cost" of the existing SIMM as only has one slot.

Battery life varies dependent upon software. If running wireless will cut
into your battery, but I typically get 1.5-2.0 hours of real time use while
operating 4-6 programs simultaneously. Buy the second battery if concerned
with time away from an outlet. Recharge is very fast. Good luck!

"Aaron" wrote:

> I would definately like a permanently attacked keyboard as I can type much
> faster than I write. How is the keyboard on the M200?
> and how is the battery life between the two?
>
>
> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
> news:eyVqjVsoEHA.2764@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > Both are very good machines. And yes, upgrading the RAM will make a
> > significant performance increase for some users. Not as big a one as going
> > from 256 to 512, but significant.
> >
> > They are very different machines -- My real question for you is how
> > important it is to have a permanently attached keyboard. If that's
> > important, go with the M200. If having a somewhat thinner and lighter
> > machine is more important, go with the Motion. If you want to be able to
> > use your tablet outside, go with the Motion -- there's no comparision on
> > this one, the outside screen for the Motion is good, and there isn't one
> > for the Toshiba.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Charlie.
> >
> > Aaron wrote:
> >> Hi
> >> I'm planning to buy a tablet pc. I did some research and two tpc on
> >> the top of list right now are the toshiba m200 and motion computing
> >> m1400. Can somebody who have seen or used both of them give me some
> >> advice?
> >> My main concern is speed.
> >>
> >> PS: Will upgrading the memory from 512 to 1024mb greatly improve the
> >> performance?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> Aaron

> >
> >

>
>
>

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Old 12-03-2004, 04:16 AM
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Re: Toshiba or Motion computing

The Toshiba M200 has two slots, Dave. Unless you're speaking of having
added a lower MB to the original already. There's an instruction manual on
the Toshiba web site, ". . .Your computer is equipped with two memory slots
which can provide various memory configurations. When additional memory is
added, or original memory replaced, it is recommended that you use only
compatible memory . . ."
--
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Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"DesrtDave" <DesrtDave@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Just saw your posts. If have not yet purchased, I'm using the M200 a solid
> 12
> hours/day and love it. DEFINATELY upgrade the memory to 1M. I'm about to
> do
> so and will have to "eat the cost" of the existing SIMM as only has one
> slot.
>
> Battery life varies dependent upon software. If running wireless will cut
> into your battery, but I typically get 1.5-2.0 hours of real time use
> while
> operating 4-6 programs simultaneously. Buy the second battery if concerned
> with time away from an outlet. Recharge is very fast. Good luck!



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Old 12-03-2004, 03:17 PM
L4CES
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Re: Toshiba or Motion computing

Dave,

have you experienced any problems with Pen movement or mouse movement
during high disk activity.

If this problem exists, I wonder if it really has any impact on the
user. Sometimes, I run a compilation background task and deal with the
performance hit.

My guess is that it is only an observance made by many and not a point
worthy of consideration when deciding to purchase.


Thanks in Advance,
L4CES


DesrtDave wrote:
> Just saw your posts. If have not yet purchased, I'm using the M200 a solid 12
> hours/day and love it. DEFINATELY upgrade the memory to 1M. I'm about to do
> so and will have to "eat the cost" of the existing SIMM as only has one slot.
>
> Battery life varies dependent upon software. If running wireless will cut
> into your battery, but I typically get 1.5-2.0 hours of real time use while
> operating 4-6 programs simultaneously. Buy the second battery if concerned
> with time away from an outlet. Recharge is very fast. Good luck!
>
> "Aaron" wrote:
>
>
>>I would definately like a permanently attacked keyboard as I can type much
>>faster than I write. How is the keyboard on the M200?
>>and how is the battery life between the two?
>>
>>
>>"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
>>news:eyVqjVsoEHA.2764@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>>
>>>Both are very good machines. And yes, upgrading the RAM will make a
>>>significant performance increase for some users. Not as big a one as going
>>>from 256 to 512, but significant.
>>>
>>>They are very different machines -- My real question for you is how
>>>important it is to have a permanently attached keyboard. If that's
>>>important, go with the M200. If having a somewhat thinner and lighter
>>>machine is more important, go with the Motion. If you want to be able to
>>>use your tablet outside, go with the Motion -- there's no comparision on
>>>this one, the outside screen for the Motion is good, and there isn't one
>>>for the Toshiba.
>>>
>>>
>>>--
>>>Charlie.
>>>
>>>Aaron wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi
>>>>I'm planning to buy a tablet pc. I did some research and two tpc on
>>>>the top of list right now are the toshiba m200 and motion computing
>>>>m1400. Can somebody who have seen or used both of them give me some
>>>>advice?
>>>>My main concern is speed.
>>>>
>>>>PS: Will upgrading the memory from 512 to 1024mb greatly improve the
>>>>performance?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks
>>>>Aaron
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

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