When I right click "C" drive in My Computer, to view properties, it hangs.
When I go to task manager it says My Computer, not responding. Help, please !

Sounds like an explorer shell extension is hanging. Do you have any
installed applications that add context menus to Explorer such as WinZip or
Omni Pass?

--
J. Tennyson Einstein
Einstein Technologies

Tablet Enhancements for Outlook 2.0 - Change the way you work without
changing the applications you work in. http://www.tabletoutlook.com


"GG" <GG@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:15B146A8-62FC-4541-B5DD-4FA984C93881@microsoft.com...
> When I right click "C" drive in My Computer, to view properties, it hangs.
> When I go to task manager it says My Computer, not responding. Help,
> please !

"Josh Einstein" wrote:

> Sounds like an explorer shell extension is hanging. Do you have any
> installed applications that add context menus to Explorer such as WinZip or
> Omni Pass?
>
> --
> J. Tennyson Einstein
> Einstein Technologies
>
> Tablet Enhancements for Outlook 2.0 - Change the way you work without
> changing the applications you work in. http://www.tabletoutlook.com
>
>
> "GG" <GG@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:15B146A8-62FC-4541-B5DD-4FA984C93881@microsoft.com...
> > When I right click "C" drive in My Computer, to view properties, it hangs.
> > When I go to task manager it says My Computer, not responding. Help,
> > please !
>
>
>
I have same problem and I have a couple of context menues (I think) added
to my system. Roxio has an add-on for copying to a CD that was acting up so
I tried to uninstall and I think that may have caused the problem but I don't
know how to fix it.

I'd be interested in any resolution to this problem. I have a Toshiba Portege
3500 that has the same problem. I have disabled all shell extensions with no
effect, I have restarted in safe mode and still when I right click on any
drive in my computer or press alt-enter with any drive highlighted or even
attempt to select the file menu with any drive highlighted, windows explorer
hangs.

Regards,

"GG" wrote:

> When I right click "C" drive in My Computer, to view properties, it hangs.
> When I go to task manager it says My Computer, not responding. Help, please !

I'd recommend a thorough scan on the system with the anti-virus program
running the latest definitions, then go through some of the information
here: http://www.aumha.org/secure.htm to check for parasites, Trojans and
other malware on the system. If you have not yet updated to Windows XP SP2,
then it is very likely the system is infested. It should be cleaned up
before attempt to bring it to date.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone

"Scott" <Scott@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:FA87FF77-5634-477E-A241-4200BEE8CA4A@microsoft.com...
> I'd be interested in any resolution to this problem. I have a Toshiba
> Portege
> 3500 that has the same problem. I have disabled all shell extensions with
> no
> effect, I have restarted in safe mode and still when I right click on any
> drive in my computer or press alt-enter with any drive highlighted or even
> attempt to select the file menu with any drive highlighted, windows
> explorer
> hangs.
>
> Regards,
>
> "GG" wrote:
>
>> When I right click "C" drive in My Computer, to view properties, it
>> hangs.
>> When I go to task manager it says My Computer, not responding. Help,
>> please !

Thanks Chris H,

I run CA etrust with hourly updates via a redistribution server on our
network. I use Innoculate for realtime and VET for the scheduled scan that is
done each day. I have SP2 installed and have checked for spyware using
adaware and CWShredder. I have also turned of System Restore, restarted in
safe mode and run both anti-virus scans and adaware, both are clear.

Regards,

"Chris H." wrote:

> I'd recommend a thorough scan on the system with the anti-virus program
> running the latest definitions, then go through some of the information
> here: http://www.aumha.org/secure.htm to check for parasites, Trojans and
> other malware on the system. If you have not yet updated to Windows XP SP2,
> then it is very likely the system is infested. It should be cleaned up
> before attempt to bring it to date.
> --
> Chris H.
> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> Associate Expert
> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>
> "Scott" <Scott@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:FA87FF77-5634-477E-A241-4200BEE8CA4A@microsoft.com...
> > I'd be interested in any resolution to this problem. I have a Toshiba
> > Portege
> > 3500 that has the same problem. I have disabled all shell extensions with
> > no
> > effect, I have restarted in safe mode and still when I right click on any
> > drive in my computer or press alt-enter with any drive highlighted or even
> > attempt to select the file menu with any drive highlighted, windows
> > explorer
> > hangs.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > "GG" wrote:
> >
> >> When I right click "C" drive in My Computer, to view properties, it
> >> hangs.
> >> When I go to task manager it says My Computer, not responding. Help,
> >> please !
>
>
>

See if this Knowledge Base article will help the situation:
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;819946 If it
doesn't, try creating a new User, as part of the Admin group, and see if it
has the same result.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"Scott" <Scott@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3C48B6AC-4795-49A6-B0F5-8BB5E6D9E437@microsoft.com...
> Thanks Chris H,
>
> I run CA etrust with hourly updates via a redistribution server on our
> network. I use Innoculate for realtime and VET for the scheduled scan that
> is
> done each day. I have SP2 installed and have checked for spyware using
> adaware and CWShredder. I have also turned of System Restore, restarted in
> safe mode and run both anti-virus scans and adaware, both are clear.
>
> Regards,
>
> "Chris H." wrote:
>
>> I'd recommend a thorough scan on the system with the anti-virus program
>> running the latest definitions, then go through some of the information
>> here: http://www.aumha.org/secure.htm to check for parasites, Trojans
>> and
>> other malware on the system. If you have not yet updated to Windows XP
>> SP2,
>> then it is very likely the system is infested. It should be cleaned up
>> before attempt to bring it to date.
>> --
>> Chris H.
>> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
>> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
>> Associate Expert
>> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>
>> "Scott" <Scott@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:FA87FF77-5634-477E-A241-4200BEE8CA4A@microsoft.com...
>> > I'd be interested in any resolution to this problem. I have a Toshiba
>> > Portege
>> > 3500 that has the same problem. I have disabled all shell extensions
>> > with
>> > no
>> > effect, I have restarted in safe mode and still when I right click on
>> > any
>> > drive in my computer or press alt-enter with any drive highlighted or
>> > even
>> > attempt to select the file menu with any drive highlighted, windows
>> > explorer
>> > hangs.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > "GG" wrote:
>> >
>> >> When I right click "C" drive in My Computer, to view properties, it
>> >> hangs.
>> >> When I go to task manager it says My Computer, not responding. Help,
>> >> please !
>>
>>
>>

Thanks Chris,

I am running classic folders, I did disable the "Fade or Slide Menus..."
option though with no change. I left the window for 10 minutes and it did not
report an error or become "unhung"

Regards

"Chris H." wrote:

> See if this Knowledge Base article will help the situation:
> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;819946 If it
> doesn't, try creating a new User, as part of the Admin group, and see if it
> has the same result.
> --
> Chris H.
> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> Associate Expert
> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>
>
> "Scott" <Scott@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:3C48B6AC-4795-49A6-B0F5-8BB5E6D9E437@microsoft.com...
> > Thanks Chris H,
> >
> > I run CA etrust with hourly updates via a redistribution server on our
> > network. I use Innoculate for realtime and VET for the scheduled scan that
> > is
> > done each day. I have SP2 installed and have checked for spyware using
> > adaware and CWShredder. I have also turned of System Restore, restarted in
> > safe mode and run both anti-virus scans and adaware, both are clear.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > "Chris H." wrote:
> >
> >> I'd recommend a thorough scan on the system with the anti-virus program
> >> running the latest definitions, then go through some of the information
> >> here: http://www.aumha.org/secure.htm to check for parasites, Trojans
> >> and
> >> other malware on the system. If you have not yet updated to Windows XP
> >> SP2,
> >> then it is very likely the system is infested. It should be cleaned up
> >> before attempt to bring it to date.
> >> --
> >> Chris H.
> >> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
> >> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> >> Associate Expert
> >> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> >>
> >> "Scott" <Scott@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:FA87FF77-5634-477E-A241-4200BEE8CA4A@microsoft.com...
> >> > I'd be interested in any resolution to this problem. I have a Toshiba
> >> > Portege
> >> > 3500 that has the same problem. I have disabled all shell extensions
> >> > with
> >> > no
> >> > effect, I have restarted in safe mode and still when I right click on
> >> > any
> >> > drive in my computer or press alt-enter with any drive highlighted or
> >> > even
> >> > attempt to select the file menu with any drive highlighted, windows
> >> > explorer
> >> > hangs.
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> >
> >> > "GG" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> When I right click "C" drive in My Computer, to view properties, it
> >> >> hangs.
> >> >> When I go to task manager it says My Computer, not responding. Help,
> >> >> please !
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

I have had this problem for some time now and the problem seems to exist in
both SP2 and SP1. It seems to occur with USB drives, Network drives and the
root C:\ alike. Trying everything suggested with no results. Hopefully
someone digs a little deeper to identify this issue. Thanks for all your
comments and suggestions.

"Scott" wrote:

> Thanks Chris,
>
> I am running classic folders, I did disable the "Fade or Slide Menus..."
> option though with no change. I left the window for 10 minutes and it did not
> report an error or become "unhung"
>
> Regards
>
> "Chris H." wrote:
>
> > See if this Knowledge Base article will help the situation:
> > http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;819946 If it
> > doesn't, try creating a new User, as part of the Admin group, and see if it
> > has the same result.
> > --
> > Chris H.
> > Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
> > Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> > Associate Expert
> > Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> >
> >
> > "Scott" <Scott@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:3C48B6AC-4795-49A6-B0F5-8BB5E6D9E437@microsoft.com...
> > > Thanks Chris H,
> > >
> > > I run CA etrust with hourly updates via a redistribution server on our
> > > network. I use Innoculate for realtime and VET for the scheduled scan that
> > > is
> > > done each day. I have SP2 installed and have checked for spyware using
> > > adaware and CWShredder. I have also turned of System Restore, restarted in
> > > safe mode and run both anti-virus scans and adaware, both are clear.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > "Chris H." wrote:
> > >
> > >> I'd recommend a thorough scan on the system with the anti-virus program
> > >> running the latest definitions, then go through some of the information
> > >> here: http://www.aumha.org/secure.htm to check for parasites, Trojans
> > >> and
> > >> other malware on the system. If you have not yet updated to Windows XP
> > >> SP2,
> > >> then it is very likely the system is infested. It should be cleaned up
> > >> before attempt to bring it to date.
> > >> --
> > >> Chris H.
> > >> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
> > >> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> > >> Associate Expert
> > >> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > >>
> > >> "Scott" <Scott@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:FA87FF77-5634-477E-A241-4200BEE8CA4A@microsoft.com...
> > >> > I'd be interested in any resolution to this problem. I have a Toshiba
> > >> > Portege
> > >> > 3500 that has the same problem. I have disabled all shell extensions
> > >> > with
> > >> > no
> > >> > effect, I have restarted in safe mode and still when I right click on
> > >> > any
> > >> > drive in my computer or press alt-enter with any drive highlighted or
> > >> > even
> > >> > attempt to select the file menu with any drive highlighted, windows
> > >> > explorer
> > >> > hangs.
> > >> >
> > >> > Regards,
> > >> >
> > >> > "GG" wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> When I right click "C" drive in My Computer, to view properties, it
> > >> >> hangs.
> > >> >> When I go to task manager it says My Computer, not responding. Help,
> > >> >> please !
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> >
> >

I have just completed a factory restore on my Toshiba 3500 (with
difficulty!!) and the problem is not present. I have installed SP2 plus all
updates, office suite etc and still no problem. I am setting a restore point
before I install anything - if it recurs I'll let you know what app did it.

regards

"G2 Scuba" wrote:

> I have had this problem for some time now and the problem seems to exist in
> both SP2 and SP1. It seems to occur with USB drives, Network drives and the
> root C:\ alike. Trying everything suggested with no results. Hopefully
> someone digs a little deeper to identify this issue. Thanks for all your
> comments and suggestions.
>
> "Scott" wrote:
>
> > Thanks Chris,
> >
> > I am running classic folders, I did disable the "Fade or Slide Menus..."
> > option though with no change. I left the window for 10 minutes and it did not
> > report an error or become "unhung"
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > "Chris H." wrote:
> >
> > > See if this Knowledge Base article will help the situation:
> > > http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;819946 If it
> > > doesn't, try creating a new User, as part of the Admin group, and see if it
> > > has the same result.
> > > --
> > > Chris H.
> > > Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
> > > Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> > > Associate Expert
> > > Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > >
> > >
> > > "Scott" <Scott@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > news:3C48B6AC-4795-49A6-B0F5-8BB5E6D9E437@microsoft.com...
> > > > Thanks Chris H,
> > > >
> > > > I run CA etrust with hourly updates via a redistribution server on our
> > > > network. I use Innoculate for realtime and VET for the scheduled scan that
> > > > is
> > > > done each day. I have SP2 installed and have checked for spyware using
> > > > adaware and CWShredder. I have also turned of System Restore, restarted in
> > > > safe mode and run both anti-virus scans and adaware, both are clear.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > "Chris H." wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> I'd recommend a thorough scan on the system with the anti-virus program
> > > >> running the latest definitions, then go through some of the information
> > > >> here: http://www.aumha.org/secure.htm to check for parasites, Trojans
> > > >> and
> > > >> other malware on the system. If you have not yet updated to Windows XP
> > > >> SP2,
> > > >> then it is very likely the system is infested. It should be cleaned up
> > > >> before attempt to bring it to date.
> > > >> --
> > > >> Chris H.
> > > >> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
> > > >> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> > > >> Associate Expert
> > > >> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > > >>
> > > >> "Scott" <Scott@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > >> news:FA87FF77-5634-477E-A241-4200BEE8CA4A@microsoft.com...
> > > >> > I'd be interested in any resolution to this problem. I have a Toshiba
> > > >> > Portege
> > > >> > 3500 that has the same problem. I have disabled all shell extensions
> > > >> > with
> > > >> > no
> > > >> > effect, I have restarted in safe mode and still when I right click on
> > > >> > any
> > > >> > drive in my computer or press alt-enter with any drive highlighted or
> > > >> > even
> > > >> > attempt to select the file menu with any drive highlighted, windows
> > > >> > explorer
> > > >> > hangs.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Regards,
> > > >> >
> > > >> > "GG" wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> When I right click "C" drive in My Computer, to view properties, it
> > > >> >> hangs.
> > > >> >> When I go to task manager it says My Computer, not responding. Help,
> > > >> >> please !
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >

Awesome I'm not really ready to do a factory install. No offense I hope it
happens again and you can identify for all our sakes. :) Take care. And
thanks again for all who contribute.

GG

"Scott" wrote:

> I have just completed a factory restore on my Toshiba 3500 (with
> difficulty!!) and the problem is not present. I have installed SP2 plus all
> updates, office suite etc and still no problem. I am setting a restore point
> before I install anything - if it recurs I'll let you know what app did it.
>
> regards
>
> "G2 Scuba" wrote:
>
> > I have had this problem for some time now and the problem seems to exist in
> > both SP2 and SP1. It seems to occur with USB drives, Network drives and the
> > root C:\ alike. Trying everything suggested with no results. Hopefully
> > someone digs a little deeper to identify this issue. Thanks for all your
> > comments and suggestions.
> >
> > "Scott" wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks Chris,
> > >
> > > I am running classic folders, I did disable the "Fade or Slide Menus..."
> > > option though with no change. I left the window for 10 minutes and it did not
> > > report an error or become "unhung"
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > "Chris H." wrote:
> > >
> > > > See if this Knowledge Base article will help the situation:
> > > > http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;819946 If it
> > > > doesn't, try creating a new User, as part of the Admin group, and see if it
> > > > has the same result.
> > > > --
> > > > Chris H.
> > > > Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
> > > > Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> > > > Associate Expert
> > > > Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Scott" <Scott@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:3C48B6AC-4795-49A6-B0F5-8BB5E6D9E437@microsoft.com...
> > > > > Thanks Chris H,
> > > > >
> > > > > I run CA etrust with hourly updates via a redistribution server on our
> > > > > network. I use Innoculate for realtime and VET for the scheduled scan that
> > > > > is
> > > > > done each day. I have SP2 installed and have checked for spyware using
> > > > > adaware and CWShredder. I have also turned of System Restore, restarted in
> > > > > safe mode and run both anti-virus scans and adaware, both are clear.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > "Chris H." wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> I'd recommend a thorough scan on the system with the anti-virus program
> > > > >> running the latest definitions, then go through some of the information
> > > > >> here: http://www.aumha.org/secure.htm to check for parasites, Trojans
> > > > >> and
> > > > >> other malware on the system. If you have not yet updated to Windows XP
> > > > >> SP2,
> > > > >> then it is very likely the system is infested. It should be cleaned up
> > > > >> before attempt to bring it to date.
> > > > >> --
> > > > >> Chris H.
> > > > >> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
> > > > >> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> > > > >> Associate Expert
> > > > >> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > > > >>
> > > > >> "Scott" <Scott@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > > >> news:FA87FF77-5634-477E-A241-4200BEE8CA4A@microsoft.com...
> > > > >> > I'd be interested in any resolution to this problem. I have a Toshiba
> > > > >> > Portege
> > > > >> > 3500 that has the same problem. I have disabled all shell extensions
> > > > >> > with
> > > > >> > no
> > > > >> > effect, I have restarted in safe mode and still when I right click on
> > > > >> > any
> > > > >> > drive in my computer or press alt-enter with any drive highlighted or
> > > > >> > even
> > > > >> > attempt to select the file menu with any drive highlighted, windows
> > > > >> > explorer
> > > > >> > hangs.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Regards,
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > "GG" wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >> When I right click "C" drive in My Computer, to view properties, it
> > > > >> >> hangs.
> > > > >> >> When I go to task manager it says My Computer, not responding. Help,
> > > > >> >> please !
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >

On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 15:03:02 -0800, G2 Scuba wrote:

> Awesome I'm not really ready to do a factory install. No offense I hope it
> happens again and you can identify for all our sakes. :) Take care. And
> thanks again for all who contribute.

There are some suggestions on this page that you might find useful :
http://windowsxp.mvps.org/slowrightclick.htm

--
Sharon F
MS-MVP ~ Windows Shell/User

Sharron - I tried all the items in the article but alas the problem prevails.
It seems it is a complete HANG it immediately goes to a "Not Resoponding"
state in the task manager this goes for a right click or trying to use file,
tools etc. in the menu bar. It seems the CPU usage is occupied breifly ( 3-5
sec) then nothing is consuming CPU usage. Any other recommendations would be
appreciated. :) G2

"Sharon F" wrote:

> On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 15:03:02 -0800, G2 Scuba wrote:
>
> > Awesome I'm not really ready to do a factory install. No offense I hope it
> > happens again and you can identify for all our sakes. :) Take care. And
> > thanks again for all who contribute.
>
> There are some suggestions on this page that you might find useful :
> http://windowsxp.mvps.org/slowrightclick.htm
>
> --
> Sharon F
> MS-MVP ~ Windows Shell/User
>

On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 07:31:11 -0800, G2 Scuba wrote:

> Sharron - I tried all the items in the article but alas the problem prevails.
> It seems it is a complete HANG it immediately goes to a "Not Resoponding"
> state in the task manager this goes for a right click or trying to use file,
> tools etc. in the menu bar. It seems the CPU usage is occupied breifly ( 3-5
> sec) then nothing is consuming CPU usage. Any other recommendations would be
> appreciated. :) G2

You mentioned in your very first message that you suspected a Roxio
addon/context menu item. You have the links for the context menu handlers.
Here's a link in regards to CD burning:
http://www.aumha.org/win5/a/xpcd.htm

In the troubleshooting section it goes over some Roxio trouble spots.

There is mention of deleting registry keys and a few files. May want to
create a system restore point or manually export registry keys and retain
copies of the files in question (place in another folder) before making
changes.

I had similar trouble on a desktop with an earlier version of Roxio (could
not access drive properties via right click or File menu; right click often
caused an error and crashed explorer) and these things helped to sort it
out for me. Perhaps they'll be of some help to you too.

--
Sharon F
MS-MVP ~ Windows Shell/User

Confusion I'm not the same GG as the initial post I don't have Roxio
installed. I do have Iomega Hot burn. ;)

"Sharon F" wrote:

> On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 07:31:11 -0800, G2 Scuba wrote:
>
> > Sharron - I tried all the items in the article but alas the problem prevails.
> > It seems it is a complete HANG it immediately goes to a "Not Resoponding"
> > state in the task manager this goes for a right click or trying to use file,
> > tools etc. in the menu bar. It seems the CPU usage is occupied breifly ( 3-5
> > sec) then nothing is consuming CPU usage. Any other recommendations would be
> > appreciated. :) G2
>
> You mentioned in your very first message that you suspected a Roxio
> addon/context menu item. You have the links for the context menu handlers.
> Here's a link in regards to CD burning:
> http://www.aumha.org/win5/a/xpcd.htm
>
> In the troubleshooting section it goes over some Roxio trouble spots.
>
> There is mention of deleting registry keys and a few files. May want to
> create a system restore point or manually export registry keys and retain
> copies of the files in question (place in another folder) before making
> changes.
>
> I had similar trouble on a desktop with an earlier version of Roxio (could
> not access drive properties via right click or File menu; right click often
> caused an error and crashed explorer) and these things helped to sort it
> out for me. Perhaps they'll be of some help to you too.
>
> --
> Sharon F
> MS-MVP ~ Windows Shell/User
>