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Old 11-10-2008, 06:00 AM
Frustrated_Samsung
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In-Place Input Panel Doesn't Work - Please Help!

Hello,

I recently procured a Samsung tablet PC running Windows XP Table PC Edition
2005 with Service Pack 3 installed.

I love this little tablet with one, incredibly annoying exception being the
fact that the in-place Input Panel does not work at all. The input panel
works fine when docked at the top or the bottom of the screen. It's when I
select the Undock option that the panel disappears and there is no orange
floating Input Panel icon next to the blinking cursor within any of my input
fields. Oh how I long for the convenience that this feature promises...

I've been researching this problem wherever I can find it reported and
apparently it was a common side-effect of people installing SP2 on their
tablets and the only documented fix was to uninstall and reinstall SP2.
Well, I'm sitting at SP3 and I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling SP3
with no luck (obviously). I've even learned more than I ever wanted to know
about tablet PC input panel caret tracking from MSDN through this process.

I hope is that someone can point me to a Hotfix for this issue or at least
give me some more ideas to go on. Have you experienced this? Is anyone else
out there using a Samsung Model NP-Q1u tablet and are you experiencing the
same thing?

Thanks in advance!
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Old 11-10-2008, 07:50 AM
Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev]
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Re: In-Place Input Panel Doesn't Work - Please Help!

>> within any of my input fields. <<

First, this is software dependent, not all programs tigger the tip.

So, one question would be what "software" and the other is that is this
happening across the board.

Open Word or other ms app and tap at the insertion point and see if you
get the tip icon.

Beverly Howard [Microsoft MVP-Mobile Devices]



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Old 11-10-2008, 12:00 PM
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Re: In-Place Input Panel Doesn't Work - Please Help!

Thank you for your response Beverly. This is an across-the-board issue.
I've never seen a TIP icon in any input field in any app, MS or otherwise
after clicking the "Undock" option.

Thanks.

"Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev]" wrote:

> >> within any of my input fields. <<

>
> First, this is software dependent, not all programs tigger the tip.
>
> So, one question would be what "software" and the other is that is this
> happening across the board.
>
> Open Word or other ms app and tap at the insertion point and see if you
> get the tip icon.
>
> Beverly Howard [Microsoft MVP-Mobile Devices]
>
>
>
>

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Old 11-10-2008, 04:00 PM
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Re: In-Place Input Panel Doesn't Work - Please Help!

Even when you get it running you won't like it. Always need to
move it around so it's not covering stuff you need to see while
using it.

Try the trial version of this instead:

http://www.ritescript.com/Products/ritePen.aspx

This thing kicks the TIP's butt.

If you decide you want it, it's only $29.95.

Made all the difference for me on my U810.

"Frustrated_Samsung" <FrustratedSamsung@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:D1BFFD5B-826C-48F6-B7F4-F57BA0957209@microsoft.com...
> Thank you for your response Beverly. This is an across-the-board issue.
> I've never seen a TIP icon in any input field in any app, MS or otherwise
> after clicking the "Undock" option.
>
> Thanks.
>
> "Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev]" wrote:
>
> > >> within any of my input fields. <<

> >
> > First, this is software dependent, not all programs tigger the tip.
> >
> > So, one question would be what "software" and the other is that is this
> > happening across the board.
> >
> > Open Word or other ms app and tap at the insertion point and see if you
> > get the tip icon.
> >
> > Beverly Howard [Microsoft MVP-Mobile Devices]
> >
> >
> >
> >



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Old 11-10-2008, 05:20 PM
Rainald Taesler
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Re: In-Place Input Panel Doesn't Work - Please Help!

V Green schrieb:

> Even when you


Who "you"? <bgg>

> ... get it running you won't like it. Always need to
> move it around so it's not covering stuff you need to see while
> using it.


I for one do *not* like it - under XP as well as under Vista (which my
HP tc1100 is running with).

> Try the trial version of this instead:
>
> http://www.ritescript.com/Products/ritePen.aspx
>
> This thing kicks the TIP's butt.


Kicks to where?
I for one tried it (a longer while ago).
I uninstalled it after not too long.

> Made all the difference for me on my U810.


Maybe for YOU.
I did not see the use of it.
I prefer what's built-in (especially in Vista).

Rainald



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Old 11-10-2008, 06:30 PM
V Green
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Re: In-Place Input Panel Doesn't Work - Please Help!

Whatever.

Suggestion still valid.

OP can try for himself.

He now has two completely different opinions
of the same product.

For those of us who do NOT have active digitizers,
and therefore can NOT use gestures with the built-in
TIP, RitePen knows how.

It's worth the $29.95 just for that.


"Rainald Taesler" <taesler@gmx.de> wrote in message
news:%23Ex%23kt5QJHA.4492@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> V Green schrieb:
>
> > Even when you

>
> Who "you"? <bgg>
>
> > ... get it running you won't like it. Always need to
> > move it around so it's not covering stuff you need to see while
> > using it.

>
> I for one do *not* like it - under XP as well as under Vista (which my
> HP tc1100 is running with).
>
> > Try the trial version of this instead:
> >
> > http://www.ritescript.com/Products/ritePen.aspx
> >
> > This thing kicks the TIP's butt.

>
> Kicks to where?
> I for one tried it (a longer while ago).
> I uninstalled it after not too long.
>
> > Made all the difference for me on my U810.

>
> Maybe for YOU.
> I did not see the use of it.
> I prefer what's built-in (especially in Vista).
>
> Rainald
>
>
>



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Old 11-10-2008, 06:30 PM
Rainald Taesler
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Re: In-Place Input Panel Doesn't Work - Please Help!

V Green schrieb:
>> I for one do *not* like it - under XP as well as under Vista
>> (which my HP tc1100 is running with).
>>
>>> Try the trial version of this instead:
>>>
>>> http://www.ritescript.com/Products/ritePen.aspx
>>>
>>> This thing kicks the TIP's butt.

>>
>> Kicks to where?
>> I for one tried it (a longer while ago).
>> I uninstalled it after not too long.
>>
>>> Made all the difference for me on my U810.

>>
>> Maybe for YOU.
>> I did not see the use of it.
>> I prefer what's built-in (especially in Vista).

>
> Whatever.
>
> Suggestion still valid.
>
> OP can try for himself.


For sure. I did not want to deny that.

> He now has two completely different opinions
> of the same product.


AFAICS at present the normal first option does not work :-( :-(

> For those of us who do NOT have active digitizers,
> and therefore can NOT use gestures with the built-in
> TIP, RitePen knows how.


Sorry, I did not have in mind that there are TabletPCs without a
digitizer.
>
> It's worth the $29.95 just for that.


Under those circumstances for sure Yes.

Rainald

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Old 11-10-2008, 07:10 PM
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Re: In-Place Input Panel Doesn't Work - Please Help!


"Rainald Taesler" <taesler@gmx.de> wrote in message
news:OXho9U6QJHA.4504@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> V Green schrieb:
> >> I for one do *not* like it - under XP as well as under Vista
> >> (which my HP tc1100 is running with).
> >>
> >>> Try the trial version of this instead:
> >>>
> >>> http://www.ritescript.com/Products/ritePen.aspx
> >>>
> >>> This thing kicks the TIP's butt.
> >>
> >> Kicks to where?
> >> I for one tried it (a longer while ago).
> >> I uninstalled it after not too long.
> >>
> >>> Made all the difference for me on my U810.
> >>
> >> Maybe for YOU.
> >> I did not see the use of it.
> >> I prefer what's built-in (especially in Vista).

> >
> > Whatever.
> >
> > Suggestion still valid.
> >
> > OP can try for himself.

>
> For sure. I did not want to deny that.
>
> > He now has two completely different opinions
> > of the same product.

>
> AFAICS at present the normal first option does not work :-( :-(
>
> > For those of us who do NOT have active digitizers,
> > and therefore can NOT use gestures with the built-in
> > TIP, RitePen knows how.

>
> Sorry, I did not have in mind that there are TabletPCs without a
> digitizer.


Yeah, I learned the hard way...

There are those that have an "active" digitizer which
recognizes that the stylus is near the screen without
actually touching it, and there are "passive" digitizers
which require actual contact.

From what I have been able to learn, "active" knows
gestures and "passive" does not.

Being a PocketPC user from way back, I was really
unhappy to see that the gestures I used with that
simple device wouldn't work with the U810. Totally
killed my productivity when using stylus input.


> >
> > It's worth the $29.95 just for that.

>
> Under those circumstances for sure Yes.
>
> Rainald
>



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Old 11-10-2008, 08:50 PM
Frustrated_Samsung
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Re: In-Place Input Panel Doesn't Work - Please Help!

Thank Your V

I have downloaded the trial and am trying it out. So far. So good.

"V Green" wrote:

>
> "Rainald Taesler" <taesler@gmx.de> wrote in message
> news:OXho9U6QJHA.4504@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> > V Green schrieb:
> > >> I for one do *not* like it - under XP as well as under Vista
> > >> (which my HP tc1100 is running with).
> > >>
> > >>> Try the trial version of this instead:
> > >>>
> > >>> http://www.ritescript.com/Products/ritePen.aspx
> > >>>
> > >>> This thing kicks the TIP's butt.
> > >>
> > >> Kicks to where?
> > >> I for one tried it (a longer while ago).
> > >> I uninstalled it after not too long.
> > >>
> > >>> Made all the difference for me on my U810.
> > >>
> > >> Maybe for YOU.
> > >> I did not see the use of it.
> > >> I prefer what's built-in (especially in Vista).
> > >
> > > Whatever.
> > >
> > > Suggestion still valid.
> > >
> > > OP can try for himself.

> >
> > For sure. I did not want to deny that.
> >
> > > He now has two completely different opinions
> > > of the same product.

> >
> > AFAICS at present the normal first option does not work :-( :-(
> >
> > > For those of us who do NOT have active digitizers,
> > > and therefore can NOT use gestures with the built-in
> > > TIP, RitePen knows how.

> >
> > Sorry, I did not have in mind that there are TabletPCs without a
> > digitizer.

>
> Yeah, I learned the hard way...
>
> There are those that have an "active" digitizer which
> recognizes that the stylus is near the screen without
> actually touching it, and there are "passive" digitizers
> which require actual contact.
>
> From what I have been able to learn, "active" knows
> gestures and "passive" does not.
>
> Being a PocketPC user from way back, I was really
> unhappy to see that the gestures I used with that
> simple device wouldn't work with the U810. Totally
> killed my productivity when using stylus input.
>
>
> > >
> > > It's worth the $29.95 just for that.

> >
> > Under those circumstances for sure Yes.
> >
> > Rainald
> >

>
>
>

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Old 11-11-2008, 03:50 PM
Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev]
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Re: In-Place Input Panel Doesn't Work - Please Help!

shot in the dark... what are your tip options set to?

tip/gear/options/general/show...

even it it is set, change it to something different, tap "apply" then
set it back and tap "apply" again.

Beverly Howard [Microsoft MVP-Mobile Devices]
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