Hello people

I just installed SP2 onto my desktop and Toshiba Tablet PC.

I turned off the MS Firewall on both machines, but can't browse the Internet
from the Tablet PC (using ICS, which is set up on the desktop).

The desktop is convinced that the Internet connection is shared, it's got
the IP 192.168.0.1 and Subnet of 255.255.255.0, and I've given the Toshiba
192.168.0.2 and the same subnet. I can browse my shared folders, but not
use the Internet from the Toshiba :o(

Any ideas from anyone out there?

Thanks

Dave

If you assigned the IP address yourself (rather than allowing ICS to assign
it) to the Toshiba, did you also assign the DNS addresses that the IP stack
requires (to find things not on the local LAN) ? If you're going to do it
manually make sure you copy the DNS settings from the primary link of the
ICS server machine also.
Al
"Dave Adamson" <nobody@thisplace.com> wrote in message
news:s-Ocnd4_rfzILoXcSa8jmw@karoo.co.uk...
> Hello people
>
> I just installed SP2 onto my desktop and Toshiba Tablet PC.
>
> I turned off the MS Firewall on both machines, but can't browse the
> Internet from the Tablet PC (using ICS, which is set up on the desktop).
>
> The desktop is convinced that the Internet connection is shared, it's got
> the IP 192.168.0.1 and Subnet of 255.255.255.0, and I've given the Toshiba
> 192.168.0.2 and the same subnet. I can browse my shared folders, but not
> use the Internet from the Toshiba :o(
>
> Any ideas from anyone out there?
>
> Thanks
>
> Dave
>

Don't turn off the new firewall, but do follow the suggestion Al posted.
There is no need to shut down the firewall. It isn't what is causing your
problem.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"Dave Adamson" <nobody@thisplace.com> wrote in message
news:s-Ocnd4_rfzILoXcSa8jmw@karoo.co.uk...
> Hello people
>
> I just installed SP2 onto my desktop and Toshiba Tablet PC.
>
> I turned off the MS Firewall on both machines, but can't browse the
> Internet from the Tablet PC (using ICS, which is set up on the desktop).
>
> The desktop is convinced that the Internet connection is shared, it's got
> the IP 192.168.0.1 and Subnet of 255.255.255.0, and I've given the Toshiba
> 192.168.0.2 and the same subnet. I can browse my shared folders, but not
> use the Internet from the Toshiba :o(
>
> Any ideas from anyone out there?
>
> Thanks
>
> Dave
>

In article <Oq01LTtfEHA.2468@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl>, "Al Edlund"
<edlund@ameritech.net> wrote:
>> I just installed SP2 onto my desktop and Toshiba Tablet PC.
>>
>> I turned off the MS Firewall on both machines, but can't browse the
>> Internet from the Tablet PC (using ICS, which is set up on the desktop).
>>
>> The desktop is convinced that the Internet connection is shared, it's got
>> the IP 192.168.0.1 and Subnet of 255.255.255.0, and I've given the Toshiba
>> 192.168.0.2 and the same subnet. I can browse my shared folders, but not
>> use the Internet from the Toshiba :o(
>
>If you assigned the IP address yourself (rather than allowing ICS to assign
>it) to the Toshiba, did you also assign the DNS addresses that the IP stack
>requires (to find things not on the local LAN) ? If you're going to do it
>manually make sure you copy the DNS settings from the primary link of the
>ICS server machine also.
>Al

For manual client configuration, also set the default gateway to
192.168.0.1.

Here are some tips for troubleshooting ICS:

1. On the host computer, right click the local area network connection
and click Status | Support | Details. It should show:

IP Address: 192.168.0.1
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: none
DNS Server = none

2. On the client computer, right click the local area network
connection and click Status | Support | Details. It should show:

IP Address: 192.168.0.x (1<x<255)
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: 192.168.0.1
DNS Server = 192.168.0.1 or your ISP's DNS server

3. If #1 and #2 are right, open a command prompt window on the client
and enter these lines. Each one should get four replies:

ping 192.168.0.1
ping 216.239.39.99
ping google.com

4. If #1-#3 are right, enter these addresses in Internet Explorer on
the client. They should both take you to the Google web page:

http://216.239.39.99
http://google.com
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Hi all,

Same problem here, after installing SP 2, the internet (ICS) does not
work on the second (non host) PC any more. Ping from the client to the
host works fine. All other settings are matching the settings as
described above.

Only when I deactivate the Windows Firewall for the NIC that is
connectet to the internet, the client PC can correctly connect to the
internet.

Any sugestions, how to solve this problem?

Thanks for any help!

Henk

You may want to check your settings in Control Panel/Windows Firewall. If
you have a check mark in "Don't allow exceptions" then you're blocking your
own LAN machines. Also, click on the Exceptions tab in there to make sure
you've got File and Printer Sharing enabled, then check the Advanced tab to
see if you've enabled the Local Area Connection (or Wireless Network
Connection, if wireless).
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"H.Spaan" <heki73********.com> wrote in message
news:5f7d6c8e.0408110833.27e34ec1@posting.google.c om...
> Hi all,
>
> Same problem here, after installing SP 2, the internet (ICS) does not
> work on the second (non host) PC any more. Ping from the client to the
> host works fine. All other settings are matching the settings as
> described above.
>
> Only when I deactivate the Windows Firewall for the NIC that is
> connectet to the internet, the client PC can correctly connect to the
> internet.
>
> Any sugestions, how to solve this problem?
>
> Thanks for any help!
>
> Henk

Hi Chris,

thanks for your help!

> You may want to check your settings in Control Panel/Windows Firewall. If
> you have a check mark in "Don't allow exceptions" then you're blocking your
> own LAN machines.

The checkbox is not marked.

> Also, click on the Exceptions tab in there to make sure
> you've got File and Printer Sharing enabled,

File and printer sharing are enabled.

> then check the Advanced tab to
> see if you've enabled the Local Area Connection (or Wireless Network

I don't know exactly what you mean here. The client indeed is
connected wireless to the ICS-host (Bluetooth). All checkboxes
(Advance tab) are marked. Where and how can I enable the Local Area or
Wireless network connection? As far as I see I only can mark and
unmark the different NICH-interfaces (which ar all marked currently).

Thanks for any sugestion!

Henk



"Chris H." <winxpnews********.com> wrote in message news:<OokJcG8fEHA.632@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl>...
> You may want to check your settings in Control Panel/Windows Firewall. If
> you have a check mark in "Don't allow exceptions" then you're blocking your
> own LAN machines. Also, click on the Exceptions tab in there to make sure
> you've got File and Printer Sharing enabled, then check the Advanced tab to
> see if you've enabled the Local Area Connection (or Wireless Network
> Connection, if wireless).
> --
> Chris H.
> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> Associate Expert
> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone

Sorry, I didn't catch you were running Bluetooth for part of the LAN. Can
you give me an overall description of your networking setup? Do you have a
mixture of Bluetooth and 802.11x machines? Please describe how you are
sharing the connection, and what machine is "sharing" including the
operating system on that machine.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"H.Spaan" <heki73********.com> wrote in message
news:5f7d6c8e.0408120040.a7812cf@posting.google.co m...
> Hi Chris,
>
> thanks for your help!
>
> The checkbox is not marked.
>
> File and printer sharing are enabled.
>
> I don't know exactly what you mean here. The client indeed is
> connected wireless to the ICS-host (Bluetooth). All checkboxes
> (Advance tab) are marked. Where and how can I enable the Local Area or
> Wireless network connection? As far as I see I only can mark and
> unmark the different NICH-interfaces (which ar all marked currently).
>
> Thanks for any sugestion!
>
> Henk

Hi everyone

I've followed all the suggestions given and they were much appreciated.
Alas, I still can't get ICS working :oS

It will be something in the way I am setting it up, I bet :o)

One thing that I didn't mention was that I am using a wireless connection
(built into the Tablet, a USB Wireless Adapter on the desktop and a USB
modem on the desktop). The wireless kit is 802.11b. Is there anything else
I can try?

Thanks for the help :o)




"Dave Adamson" <nobody@thisplace.com> wrote in message
news:s-Ocnd4_rfzILoXcSa8jmw@karoo.co.uk...
> Hello people
>
> I just installed SP2 onto my desktop and Toshiba Tablet PC.
>
> I turned off the MS Firewall on both machines, but can't browse the
> Internet from the Tablet PC (using ICS, which is set up on the desktop).
>
> The desktop is convinced that the Internet connection is shared, it's got
> the IP 192.168.0.1 and Subnet of 255.255.255.0, and I've given the Toshiba
> 192.168.0.2 and the same subnet. I can browse my shared folders, but not
> use the Internet from the Toshiba :o(
>
> Any ideas from anyone out there?
>
> Thanks
>
> Dave
>

Dave, I believe the concept of how this is supposed to take place may be a
bit off target. Take a look at this Microsoft Knowledge Base article
regarding a satellite Internet connection where a USB modem is installed:
http://support.microsoft.com/default...&Product=MSbbn

If you have incoming ISP service to the desktop, you need to share that via
ICS from the desktop through a Network Interface Card to which you've
connected a router/base station that is in Bridging Mode. You cannot have
two wireless adapters talking to each other in this setup. They're just not
built to do that.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"Dave Adamson" <nobody@thisplace.com> wrote in message
news:2QidnZfgcNv9S4DcSa8jmA@karoo.co.uk...
> Hi everyone
>
> I've followed all the suggestions given and they were much appreciated.
> Alas, I still can't get ICS working :oS
>
> It will be something in the way I am setting it up, I bet :o)
>
> One thing that I didn't mention was that I am using a wireless connection
> (built into the Tablet, a USB Wireless Adapter on the desktop and a USB
> modem on the desktop). The wireless kit is 802.11b. Is there anything
> else I can try?
>
> Thanks for the help :o)
>
>
>
>
> "Dave Adamson" <nobody@thisplace.com> wrote in message
> news:s-Ocnd4_rfzILoXcSa8jmw@karoo.co.uk...
>> Hello people
>>
>> I just installed SP2 onto my desktop and Toshiba Tablet PC.
>>
>> I turned off the MS Firewall on both machines, but can't browse the
>> Internet from the Tablet PC (using ICS, which is set up on the desktop).
>>
>> The desktop is convinced that the Internet connection is shared, it's got
>> the IP 192.168.0.1 and Subnet of 255.255.255.0, and I've given the
>> Toshiba 192.168.0.2 and the same subnet. I can browse my shared folders,
>> but not use the Internet from the Toshiba :o(
>>
>> Any ideas from anyone out there?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Dave
>>
>
>

Has something changed in the way that ICS is handled under SP2?

Previously, under SP1, I was able to run my Tablet, via wireless with the
USB WiFI interface on the desktop, and share the internet (being provided
through the USB ADSL modem).

Argh, more to think about :o)

Thanks for the help, though

"Chris H." <winxpnews********.com> wrote in message
news:udfQGqhgEHA.1392@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Dave, I believe the concept of how this is supposed to take place may be a
> bit off target. Take a look at this Microsoft Knowledge Base article
> regarding a satellite Internet connection where a USB modem is installed:
> http://support.microsoft.com/default...&Product=MSbbn
>
> If you have incoming ISP service to the desktop, you need to share that
> via ICS from the desktop through a Network Interface Card to which you've
> connected a router/base station that is in Bridging Mode. You cannot have
> two wireless adapters talking to each other in this setup. They're just
> not built to do that.
> --
> Chris H.
> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> Associate Expert
> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>
>
> "Dave Adamson" <nobody@thisplace.com> wrote in message
> news:2QidnZfgcNv9S4DcSa8jmA@karoo.co.uk...
>> Hi everyone
>>
>> I've followed all the suggestions given and they were much appreciated.
>> Alas, I still can't get ICS working :oS
>>
>> It will be something in the way I am setting it up, I bet :o)
>>
>> One thing that I didn't mention was that I am using a wireless connection
>> (built into the Tablet, a USB Wireless Adapter on the desktop and a USB
>> modem on the desktop). The wireless kit is 802.11b. Is there anything
>> else I can try?
>>
>> Thanks for the help :o)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Dave Adamson" <nobody@thisplace.com> wrote in message
>> news:s-Ocnd4_rfzILoXcSa8jmw@karoo.co.uk...
>>> Hello people
>>>
>>> I just installed SP2 onto my desktop and Toshiba Tablet PC.
>>>
>>> I turned off the MS Firewall on both machines, but can't browse the
>>> Internet from the Tablet PC (using ICS, which is set up on the desktop).
>>>
>>> The desktop is convinced that the Internet connection is shared, it's
>>> got the IP 192.168.0.1 and Subnet of 255.255.255.0, and I've given the
>>> Toshiba 192.168.0.2 and the same subnet. I can browse my shared
>>> folders, but not use the Internet from the Toshiba :o(
>>>
>>> Any ideas from anyone out there?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

In article <udfQGqhgEHA.1392@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl>, "Chris H."
<winxpnews********.com> wrote:
>>> Hi everyone
>>>
>>> I've followed all the suggestions given and they were much appreciated.
>>> Alas, I still can't get ICS working :oS
>>>
>>> It will be something in the way I am setting it up, I bet :o)
>>>
>>> One thing that I didn't mention was that I am using a wireless connection
>>> (built into the Tablet, a USB Wireless Adapter on the desktop and a USB
>>> modem on the desktop). The wireless kit is 802.11b. Is there anything
>>> else I can try?
>>>
>>> Thanks for the help :o)
>
>Dave, I believe the concept of how this is supposed to take place may be a
>bit off target. Take a look at this Microsoft Knowledge Base article
>regarding a satellite Internet connection where a USB modem is installed:
>http://support.microsoft.com/default...&Product=MSbbn
>
>If you have incoming ISP service to the desktop, you need to share that via
>ICS from the desktop through a Network Interface Card to which you've
>connected a router/base station that is in Bridging Mode. You cannot have
>two wireless adapters talking to each other in this setup. They're just not
>built to do that.

Hi, Chris and Dave. Yes, wireless adapters are built to do what Dave
wants. KB article 817461 describes how to configure a Microsoft
Broadband Networking base station to work in a setup similar to
Dave's. However the article neglects to mention that the base station
isn't needed.

A computer-to-computer wireless network, without a router or base
station, is called an "ad hoc" network, and it should work fine in
Dave's setup. Here are some articles on how to set it up:

Ad Hoc Internet Sharing with Microsoft Windows XP
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

Making the Wireless Home Network Connection in Windows XP Without a
Router
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...02april08.mspx
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

I apologize that this is a bit OT for the group, but you might have a
quick answer on this. (And I am asking about something I'm trying to
do on my M200, so it is tablet related. :) )

I often work at places like Panera, that have hotspots. I just switch
the M200 into wireless and it hunts down a connection. Ace.

But sometimes I like to pair program with a colleague who also has
wireless. Two questions relating to that. If you can spare the time to
shoot a link or two this way, I'll be grateful.

1. Is there a way to see the colleague's computer in an "ad hoc"
sense, and the hot spot's internet connection, at the same time, over
the wireless. (My understanding is "no", but I'm hoping I'm wrong.)

2. When we hook the computers together with crossover cable, odd
things happen. My M200 seems to shut down its consideration of the
wireless card, so I can't see the internet connection any more.

Sometimes when my colleague connects to the hot spot, I can share his
connection, and sometimes I cannot. We can't see any difference in
what we've done. Sometimes at the same place it works, other times
not.

I'm not running a Bridge, because at home, where the same computer is
sometimes wired, in the docking station, and sometimes not, when I'm
tableting on the couch, it wouldn't switch back and forth. I'm pretty
sure he's not running a bridge either.

Thanks,

Ron

On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 03:46:08 -0600, "Steve Winograd [MVP]"
<winograd@pobox.com> wrote:

>Hi, Chris and Dave. Yes, wireless adapters are built to do what Dave
>wants. KB article 817461 describes how to configure a Microsoft
>Broadband Networking base station to work in a setup similar to
>Dave's. However the article neglects to mention that the base station
>isn't needed.
>
>A computer-to-computer wireless network, without a router or base
>station, is called an "ad hoc" network, and it should work fine in
>Dave's setup. Here are some articles on how to set it up:
>
>Ad Hoc Internet Sharing with Microsoft Windows XP
>http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
>
>Making the Wireless Home Network Connection in Windows XP Without a
>Router
>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...02april08.mspx


--
Ron Jeffries
www.XProgramming.com
I'm giving the best advice I have. You get to decide if it's true for you.

Steve, thanks. I completely forgot ad hoc's capabilities. Many thanks for
the correction and information for Dave.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <winograd@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:a1buh09pl9aae7ka187j7jbjg6d3p3k2kg@4ax.com...
> In article <udfQGqhgEHA.1392@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl>, "Chris H."
> <winxpnews********.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi everyone
>>>>
>>>> I've followed all the suggestions given and they were much appreciated.
>>>> Alas, I still can't get ICS working :oS
>>>>
>>>> It will be something in the way I am setting it up, I bet :o)
>>>>
>>>> One thing that I didn't mention was that I am using a wireless
>>>> connection
>>>> (built into the Tablet, a USB Wireless Adapter on the desktop and a USB
>>>> modem on the desktop). The wireless kit is 802.11b. Is there anything
>>>> else I can try?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the help :o)
>>
>>Dave, I believe the concept of how this is supposed to take place may be a
>>bit off target. Take a look at this Microsoft Knowledge Base article
>>regarding a satellite Internet connection where a USB modem is installed:
>>http://support.microsoft.com/default...&Product=MSbbn
>>
>>If you have incoming ISP service to the desktop, you need to share that
>>via
>>ICS from the desktop through a Network Interface Card to which you've
>>connected a router/base station that is in Bridging Mode. You cannot have
>>two wireless adapters talking to each other in this setup. They're just
>>not
>>built to do that.
>
> Hi, Chris and Dave. Yes, wireless adapters are built to do what Dave
> wants. KB article 817461 describes how to configure a Microsoft
> Broadband Networking base station to work in a setup similar to
> Dave's. However the article neglects to mention that the base station
> isn't needed.
>
> A computer-to-computer wireless network, without a router or base
> station, is called an "ad hoc" network, and it should work fine in
> Dave's setup. Here are some articles on how to set it up:
>
> Ad Hoc Internet Sharing with Microsoft Windows XP
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
>
> Making the Wireless Home Network Connection in Windows XP Without a
> Router
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...02april08.mspx
> --
> Best Wishes,
> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>
> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>
> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com