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Old 09-26-2008, 09:20 PM
Robert M. Lincoln
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Re: Experience with TC1100 and Solid State Drive

Pedro,

Here's what I did.

With the old hard disk still in place and the TC1100 turned on, I plugged in
my CD-ROM drive to the TC1100 and put in the OS Restore disk. I then shut
off the computer, unplugged the CD-ROM drive (which now has the disk in the
drive), took out the old hard drive, put in the SSD, plugged in the CD-ROM
drive to the computer, and then turned on the computer.

The screen, at boot up, says to press any key if you want to boot off the
CD. That allowed me to format the hard disk and install the OS and HP
drivers, essentially making the machine brand new. Once done, the machine
booted up right off the SSD.

If you did the same sequence and didn't have any luck, you might call or
email Transcend. The tech department answered the phone when I called them
(maybe that was a fluke).

Good luck.



"pedro" <pedro@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:E26F69AB-7584-48CB-B8D3-F0E1D1BBEEC3@microsoft.com...
> Hi Robert
>
> Following your experience, I purchased the same SSD to install on my
> TC1100.
> That's strange the TC1100 bios does not recognize the SSD.
> I have upgraded the bios to the latest release without success. (june
> 2005)
>
> The SSD works inside a USB /IDE box, so it could not be incriminated.
> What do you think ? Bios problem ? SSD problem?
>
> I purchased exactly the same model: TS64GSSD25-M
>
> "Robert M. Lincoln" wrote:
>
>> I recently purchased a 64 GB Transcend 2.5" IDE solid state drive
>> (TS64GSSD25-M) to replace my Hitachi Travelstar 60 GB 7200 rpm drive in
>> my
>> HP tablet TC1100.
>>
>> The drive works flawlessly. However, it is only slightly faster than the
>> physical 7200 rpm drive. It's better, but I have to admit it is a big
>> disappointment. The rate limiting feature seems to be the speed of the
>> TC1100 processor (1.1 GHz).
>>
>> The OS (XP and then service pak 3) installed without incident.
>> Formatting
>> the disk only took 40 secs! I recall it took several minutes for the
>> 60GB
>> physical 7200 drive. I've reinstalled all my applications - no errors.
>> The
>> drive is seductively silent. I've performed numerous defrags (not that
>> this
>> needs to be done on a solid state drive), all without problems. The
>> drive
>> stays cooler than the 7200 rpm drive, and uses battery power a little
>> less.
>>
>> However, it is nowhere near as fast as I thought it would be. Everything
>> is
>> a little snappier than my 7200 rpm physical drive: installations are
>> quicker, some programs load a little faster. But it doesn't blow your
>> mind
>> away. Hibernation takes as much time as with my 7200 rpm drive, a big
>> disappointment. It takes my TC1100 about 30 secs to close down in
>> hibernation (from the tap on the Q menu), and about 25 - 30 seconds to
>> wake
>> up from hibernation (from pressing the on switch to the beginning screen,
>> 10 - 15 seconds just to go through the "resuming windows" progress bar).
>> It
>> uses battery power less, but not dramatically so. It's also not all that
>> light - may scale says 90 grams for the solid state drive, 115 grams for
>> the
>> Hitachi 60GB 7200 rpm drive. I guess I was expecting something very
>> light
>> weight. The solid state drive is supposed to have much greater shock
>> resistance, but I've never dropped a laptop or experienced a broken 2.5"
>> drive.
>>
>> Overall, a good product. But having used the product, I'm not sure it is
>> worth the cost when compared to physical drives. You can get this drive
>> from Amazon or NewEgg for $250 - $300. It's better than the physical
>> drive,
>> but I was expecting really short times to place the PC in hibernation
>> mode.
>> That is not the case. Defrags also still take a lot of time. So, some
>> things work very fast, others show no difference. Movies are not jerky,
>> but
>> they weren't with my 7200 drive.
>>
>> I once had a 5400 rpm drive on my TC1100. I found a noticeable
>> difference
>> in speed between it and the 7200. Upgrading memory from 512k to 1GB RAM
>> also made a noticeable difference. In comparison, the noticeable
>> difference
>> in speed using the solid state drive is not that great when compared to a
>> 7200 rpm physical drive.
>>
>> It seems, for the TC1100, the rate limiting feature is the speed of the
>> CPU.
>>
>>


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Old 09-26-2008, 09:20 PM
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Old 09-27-2008, 07:00 AM
Juan I. Cahis
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Re: Experience with TC1100 and Solid State Drive

Maybe a jumper problem in the disk (Master - Slave, etc)?

pedro <pedro@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>Hi Robert
>
>Following your experience, I purchased the same SSD to install on my TC1100.
>That's strange the TC1100 bios does not recognize the SSD.
>I have upgraded the bios to the latest release without success. (june 2005)
>
>The SSD works inside a USB /IDE box, so it could not be incriminated.
>What do you think ? Bios problem ? SSD problem?
>
>I purchased exactly the same model: TS64GSSD25-M
>
>"Robert M. Lincoln" wrote:
>
>> I recently purchased a 64 GB Transcend 2.5" IDE solid state drive
>> (TS64GSSD25-M) to replace my Hitachi Travelstar 60 GB 7200 rpm drive in my
>> HP tablet TC1100.
>>
>> The drive works flawlessly. However, it is only slightly faster than the
>> physical 7200 rpm drive. It's better, but I have to admit it is a big
>> disappointment. The rate limiting feature seems to be the speed of the
>> TC1100 processor (1.1 GHz).
>>
>> The OS (XP and then service pak 3) installed without incident. Formatting
>> the disk only took 40 secs! I recall it took several minutes for the 60GB
>> physical 7200 drive. I've reinstalled all my applications - no errors. The
>> drive is seductively silent. I've performed numerous defrags (not that this
>> needs to be done on a solid state drive), all without problems. The drive
>> stays cooler than the 7200 rpm drive, and uses battery power a little less.
>>
>> However, it is nowhere near as fast as I thought it would be. Everything is
>> a little snappier than my 7200 rpm physical drive: installations are
>> quicker, some programs load a little faster. But it doesn't blow yourmind
>> away. Hibernation takes as much time as with my 7200 rpm drive, a big
>> disappointment. It takes my TC1100 about 30 secs to close down in
>> hibernation (from the tap on the Q menu), and about 25 - 30 seconds towake
>> up from hibernation (from pressing the on switch to the beginning screen,
>> 10 - 15 seconds just to go through the "resuming windows" progress bar). It
>> uses battery power less, but not dramatically so. It's also not all that
>> light - may scale says 90 grams for the solid state drive, 115 grams for the
>> Hitachi 60GB 7200 rpm drive. I guess I was expecting something very light
>> weight. The solid state drive is supposed to have much greater shock
>> resistance, but I've never dropped a laptop or experienced a broken 2.5"
>> drive.
>>
>> Overall, a good product. But having used the product, I'm not sure itis
>> worth the cost when compared to physical drives. You can get this drive
>> from Amazon or NewEgg for $250 - $300. It's better than the physical drive,
>> but I was expecting really short times to place the PC in hibernation mode.
>> That is not the case. Defrags also still take a lot of time. So, some
>> things work very fast, others show no difference. Movies are not jerky, but
>> they weren't with my 7200 drive.
>>
>> I once had a 5400 rpm drive on my TC1100. I found a noticeable difference
>> in speed between it and the 7200. Upgrading memory from 512k to 1GB RAM
>> also made a noticeable difference. In comparison, the noticeable difference
>> in speed using the solid state drive is not that great when compared to a
>> 7200 rpm physical drive.
>>
>> It seems, for the TC1100, the rate limiting feature is the speed of the CPU.
>>
>>

Thanks
Juan I. Cahis
Santiago de Chile (South America)
Note: Please forgive me for my bad English, I am trying to improve it!
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Old 09-29-2008, 02:40 AM
pedro
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Re: Experience with TC1100 and Solid State Drive

Hi robert,
Last week-end, I did exactly what you said.
And Miracle ! it worked, I could format the drive and install XP on it.
After that, I was pushing the driver CD and installing the TC drivers and ...
a nice blue screen with ununderstanble error messages.
I tried to reboot: no operating system found.
I tried to put the SSD on a USB box: the disk is not recognized anymore.

Now I am convinced that I got a non working SSD, the problem is probably in
the contacts, that's my only explanation for why it worked on and off.

I am slightly disappointed by this, this stuff is advertised as more
reliable than a standard harddrive, they seem to be not reliable at all.

Anyway, thanks a lot for your help, the fact that we have exactly the same
configuration was essential to make the proof of the default.

Take care

Pedro
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Old 10-03-2008, 10:10 PM
Kevin M
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RE: Experience with TC1100 and Solid State Drive

One of the things with the SSD you purchased is the type of NAND memory it
uses. there is MLS and SLC. MLC (which is the drive you purchased) is very
inexpensive to produce, and unfortunately suffers from amazingly slow write
speeds. As such, you wouldn't see much improvement. SLC drives are more
expensive, but will give you the performance improvements you are looking for.

"Robert M. Lincoln" wrote:


> The drive works flawlessly. However, it is only slightly faster than the
> physical 7200 rpm drive. It's better, but I have to admit it is a big
> disappointment. The rate limiting feature seems to be the speed of the
> TC1100 processor (1.1 GHz).

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