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Old 08-03-2004, 11:23 AM
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Tablet takes a really long time to start up

Hello:

Lately, I've been noticing that my tablet takes and extemely long time to start up. It sits on the welcome screen for a bout a minute or two, then my desktop loads, but only with the background image and no icons, start menu, or taskbar. It sits on this screen for about another minute or two and then it finally finishes loading up completely. It used to happen once in awhile and now it happens like about 75 - 80% of the time I start the computer up. I"m using the Gateway M275XL machine with SP2 installed. It also used to happen before I installed SP2 so I don't think its an issue with that. And I haven't installed any software recently.

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Old 08-03-2004, 11:23 AM
Chris H.
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Re: Tablet takes a really long time to start up

RV, go to Start/Run and type in "msconfig" without the quotes, then hit the
OK button. Look on the Startup tab to see what's loading in the very
beginning. You can also look at All Programs/Startup to see what programs
are loading in the background to be "available" for you when you reach the
desktop. You may find some items that aren't necessary. If you do, just
eliminate one at a time and restart the machine to see which one it is for
future reference.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"RV" <RV@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Hello:
>
> Lately, I've been noticing that my tablet takes and extemely long time to
> start up. It sits on the welcome screen for a bout a minute or two, then
> my desktop loads, but only with the background image and no icons, start
> menu, or taskbar. It sits on this screen for about another minute or two
> and then it finally finishes loading up completely. It used to happen once
> in awhile and now it happens like about 75 - 80% of the time I start the
> computer up. I"m using the Gateway M275XL machine with SP2 installed. It
> also used to happen before I installed SP2 so I don't think its an issue
> with that. And I haven't installed any software recently.
>
> RV



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Old 08-03-2004, 03:20 PM
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Re: Tablet takes a really long time to start up

A full defragmentation might be a good idea, especially after installing
SP2. Also here's a little performance tip that you might find useful. If you
know about the page file and where to adjust it, try setting it to a static
size (same min/max). This will prevent fragmentation of the page file and
Windows also won't have to spend time growing/truncating it.

If your page file is already fragmented, you might want to remove the page
file entirely, then defrag, then create the static page file.

Of course if you don't know what a page file is, then I wouldn't mess with
it. I don't want to be liable for anything. :)

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"RV" <RV@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Hello:
>
> Lately, I've been noticing that my tablet takes and extemely long time to
> start up. It sits on the welcome screen for a bout a minute or two, then
> my desktop loads, but only with the background image and no icons, start
> menu, or taskbar. It sits on this screen for about another minute or two
> and then it finally finishes loading up completely. It used to happen once
> in awhile and now it happens like about 75 - 80% of the time I start the
> computer up. I"m using the Gateway M275XL machine with SP2 installed. It
> also used to happen before I installed SP2 so I don't think its an issue
> with that. And I haven't installed any software recently.
>
> RV



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Old 08-03-2004, 03:58 PM
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Re: Tablet takes a really long time to start up

RV, in all honesty, a recommendation of a "static" pagefile is contrary to
the Windows XP operating system use on Tablet PCs. I would strongly suggest
before following any such suggestions you thoroughly read through the
information from Microsoft Windows Storage Management/File Systems MVP Alex
Nichol here: http://www.aumha.org/win5/a/xpvm.htm

The information will let you know that, contrary to the old Win98-type
memory management, Windows XP does just fine if the user wants a fixed
minimum, but should be allowed to automatically expand, and NEVER the same
minimum and maximum sizes. One of the best "adjustments" which can be made
is to assure you're NTFS install is running clusters at 4K and/or adding
more RAM. You'll see an explanation in Alex's information.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
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"RV" <RV@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Hello:
>
> Lately, I've been noticing that my tablet takes and extemely long time to
> start up. It sits on the welcome screen for a bout a minute or two, then
> my desktop loads, but only with the background image and no icons, start
> menu, or taskbar. It sits on this screen for about another minute or two
> and then it finally finishes loading up completely. It used to happen once
> in awhile and now it happens like about 75 - 80% of the time I start the
> computer up. I"m using the Gateway M275XL machine with SP2 installed. It
> also used to happen before I installed SP2 so I don't think its an issue
> with that. And I haven't installed any software recently.
>
> RV



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Old 08-03-2004, 03:58 PM
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RE: Tablet takes a really long time to start up

RV,

Just another take on this. Do you have any disconnected network drives showing up in "My Computer".

On occasion I have mapped network drives, and then later when not on the same network, have encountered long waits while the o/s tries to find them.
--
WN
Microsoft MVP - Tablet PC


"RV" wrote:

> Hello:
>
> Lately, I've been noticing that my tablet takes and extemely long time to start up. It sits on the welcome screen for a bout a minute or two, then my desktop loads, but only with the background image and no icons, start menu, or taskbar. It sits on this screen for about another minute or two and then it finally finishes loading up completely. It used to happen once in awhile and now it happens like about 75 - 80% of the time I start the computer up. I"m using the Gateway M275XL machine with SP2 installed. It also used to happen before I installed SP2 so I don't think its an issue with that. And I haven't installed any software recently.
>
> RV

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Old 08-03-2004, 07:31 PM
Mike Williams [MVP]
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Re: Tablet takes a really long time to start up

And as an adjunct, run a spyware detection program or two over your system.

"Chris H." <winxpnews********.com> wrote in message
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> RV, go to Start/Run and type in "msconfig" without the quotes, then hit
> the OK button. Look on the Startup tab to see what's loading in the very
> beginning. You can also look at All Programs/Startup to see what programs
> are loading in the background to be "available" for you when you reach the
> desktop. You may find some items that aren't necessary. If you do, just
> eliminate one at a time and restart the machine to see which one it is for
> future reference.
> --
> Chris H.
> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> Associate Expert
> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>
>
> "RV" <RV@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:BFE965AD-828A-48FD-876A-F91CAB27AC5A@microsoft.com...
>> Hello:
>>
>> Lately, I've been noticing that my tablet takes and extemely long time to
>> start up. It sits on the welcome screen for a bout a minute or two, then
>> my desktop loads, but only with the background image and no icons, start
>> menu, or taskbar. It sits on this screen for about another minute or two
>> and then it finally finishes loading up completely. It used to happen
>> once in awhile and now it happens like about 75 - 80% of the time I start
>> the computer up. I"m using the Gateway M275XL machine with SP2 installed.
>> It also used to happen before I installed SP2 so I don't think its an
>> issue with that. And I haven't installed any software recently.
>>
>> RV

>
>



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Old 08-04-2004, 05:12 AM
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I don't have a solution but I get the same problem sometimes.
However I only get this problem when other wireless networks signals are detected upon starting up.

It starts up fast with my default wireless connection but if detects others while starting up I can go make a cup a coffee, cook breakfast and take shower before it will finish...


I have no idea why.


Update:

I'm sorry after further research it only stalls when the (SSID:SST-PR-1) shows up in the wireless connections. It seems this signal can be found in many random places and cities.

I'm sure some of you have had it pop up in your wireless connections too.
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Old 08-04-2004, 07:06 AM
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Re: Tablet takes a really long time to start up

Thanks for the help guys:
Here's what I found after I played around w/ msconfig.Every time I disable something called "tabUserW" the computer takes along tone to startup. otherwise it is fine. Any Ideas as to what this Tabusew thing is? I also run regular spyware checks on the comp and it didn't find anything this time except for the usual cookies.

"Chris H." wrote:

> RV, go to Start/Run and type in "msconfig" without the quotes, then hit the
> OK button. Look on the Startup tab to see what's loading in the very
> beginning. You can also look at All Programs/Startup to see what programs
> are loading in the background to be "available" for you when you reach the
> desktop. You may find some items that aren't necessary. If you do, just
> eliminate one at a time and restart the machine to see which one it is for
> future reference.
> --
> Chris H.
> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> Associate Expert
> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>
>
> "RV" <RV@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:BFE965AD-828A-48FD-876A-F91CAB27AC5A@microsoft.com...
> > Hello:
> >
> > Lately, I've been noticing that my tablet takes and extemely long time to
> > start up. It sits on the welcome screen for a bout a minute or two, then
> > my desktop loads, but only with the background image and no icons, start
> > menu, or taskbar. It sits on this screen for about another minute or two
> > and then it finally finishes loading up completely. It used to happen once
> > in awhile and now it happens like about 75 - 80% of the time I start the
> > computer up. I"m using the Gateway M275XL machine with SP2 installed. It
> > also used to happen before I installed SP2 so I don't think its an issue
> > with that. And I haven't installed any software recently.
> >
> > RV

>
>
>

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Old 08-04-2004, 07:06 AM
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Re: Tablet takes a really long time to start up

It's the Wacom pen driver. It's definitely something you need.

Have you updated this from the Wacom site? If so, you might want to roll it
back. If you haven't, then give it a try and see if it helps the loading
speed.
--
Terri Stratton
Editor / Owner
http://thetabletpc.net
Microsoft Windows MVP / Tablet PC

"RV" <RV@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:69E74B8F-69A8-4374-9E4F-5FDE6A884478@microsoft.com...
> Thanks for the help guys:
> Here's what I found after I played around w/ msconfig.Every time I disable
> something called "tabUserW" the computer takes along tone to startup.
> otherwise it is fine. Any Ideas as to what this Tabusew thing is? I also
> run regular spyware checks on the comp and it didn't find anything this
> time except for the usual cookies.
>
> "Chris H." wrote:
>
>> RV, go to Start/Run and type in "msconfig" without the quotes, then hit
>> the
>> OK button. Look on the Startup tab to see what's loading in the very
>> beginning. You can also look at All Programs/Startup to see what
>> programs
>> are loading in the background to be "available" for you when you reach
>> the
>> desktop. You may find some items that aren't necessary. If you do, just
>> eliminate one at a time and restart the machine to see which one it is
>> for
>> future reference.
>> --
>> Chris H.
>> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
>> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
>> Associate Expert
>> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>
>>
>> "RV" <RV@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:BFE965AD-828A-48FD-876A-F91CAB27AC5A@microsoft.com...
>> > Hello:
>> >
>> > Lately, I've been noticing that my tablet takes and extemely long time
>> > to
>> > start up. It sits on the welcome screen for a bout a minute or two,
>> > then
>> > my desktop loads, but only with the background image and no icons,
>> > start
>> > menu, or taskbar. It sits on this screen for about another minute or
>> > two
>> > and then it finally finishes loading up completely. It used to happen
>> > once
>> > in awhile and now it happens like about 75 - 80% of the time I start
>> > the
>> > computer up. I"m using the Gateway M275XL machine with SP2 installed.
>> > It
>> > also used to happen before I installed SP2 so I don't think its an
>> > issue
>> > with that. And I haven't installed any software recently.
>> >
>> > RV

>>
>>
>>


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Old 08-04-2004, 09:27 AM
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Re: Tablet takes a really long time to start up

You can speed up the connection using the settings in Network Connections.
Go to the icon representing your wireless LAN, right-click and choose
Properties. Then go to the Wireless Networks tab. Make sure you have a
check mark in Use Windows to configure my wireless network settings at the
top.

In the little pane at the bottom, make sure only your LAN name is showing -
highlight and Remove all others. Check the Advanced button in the
bottom-right, and make sure you're set for Networks to access as "Access
point (infrastructure) networks only" and then close that and OK your way
out.
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"Nelxon" <Nelxon.1agyzz@no-mx.forums.yourdomain.com.au> wrote in message
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>
> I don't have a solution but I get the same problem sometimes.
> However I only get this problem when other wireless networks signals
> are detected upon starting up.
>
> It starts up fast with my default wireless connection but if detects
> others while starting up I can go make a cup a coffee, cook breakfast
> and take shower before it will finish...
>
>
> I have no idea why.
>
>
> Update:
>
> I'm sorry after further research it only stalls when the
> (SSID:SST-PR-1) shows up in the wireless connections. It seems this
> signal can be found in many random places and cities.
>
> I'm sure some of you have had it pop up in your wireless connections
> too.
>
>
> --
> Nelxon
>
>
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> View this thread: http://www.tabletquestions.com/showthread.php?t=2493
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Old 08-04-2004, 11:32 AM
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Re: Tablet takes a really long time to start up

Update on the problem:

I thought it was disabling the wacom driver that was slowing me down, but even after I re-enabled it I still have the same problem. The computer sits on the welcome screen and then it loads my desktop without any icons, taskbar, or start menu, and sits on that for about a minute before completely loading. Any other suggestions? I'm not computer saavy enough to mess around with the pagefile.

RV

"terri" wrote:

> It's the Wacom pen driver. It's definitely something you need.
>
> Have you updated this from the Wacom site? If so, you might want to roll it
> back. If you haven't, then give it a try and see if it helps the loading
> speed.
> --
> Terri Stratton
> Editor / Owner
> http://thetabletpc.net
> Microsoft Windows MVP / Tablet PC
>
> "RV" <RV@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:69E74B8F-69A8-4374-9E4F-5FDE6A884478@microsoft.com...
> > Thanks for the help guys:
> > Here's what I found after I played around w/ msconfig.Every time I disable
> > something called "tabUserW" the computer takes along tone to startup.
> > otherwise it is fine. Any Ideas as to what this Tabusew thing is? I also
> > run regular spyware checks on the comp and it didn't find anything this
> > time except for the usual cookies.
> >
> > "Chris H." wrote:
> >
> >> RV, go to Start/Run and type in "msconfig" without the quotes, then hit
> >> the
> >> OK button. Look on the Startup tab to see what's loading in the very
> >> beginning. You can also look at All Programs/Startup to see what
> >> programs
> >> are loading in the background to be "available" for you when you reach
> >> the
> >> desktop. You may find some items that aren't necessary. If you do, just
> >> eliminate one at a time and restart the machine to see which one it is
> >> for
> >> future reference.
> >> --
> >> Chris H.
> >> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
> >> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> >> Associate Expert
> >> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> >>
> >>
> >> "RV" <RV@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:BFE965AD-828A-48FD-876A-F91CAB27AC5A@microsoft.com...
> >> > Hello:
> >> >
> >> > Lately, I've been noticing that my tablet takes and extemely long time
> >> > to
> >> > start up. It sits on the welcome screen for a bout a minute or two,
> >> > then
> >> > my desktop loads, but only with the background image and no icons,
> >> > start
> >> > menu, or taskbar. It sits on this screen for about another minute or
> >> > two
> >> > and then it finally finishes loading up completely. It used to happen
> >> > once
> >> > in awhile and now it happens like about 75 - 80% of the time I start
> >> > the
> >> > computer up. I"m using the Gateway M275XL machine with SP2 installed.
> >> > It
> >> > also used to happen before I installed SP2 so I don't think its an
> >> > issue
> >> > with that. And I haven't installed any software recently.
> >> >
> >> > RV
> >>
> >>
> >>

>
>

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Old 08-04-2004, 11:32 AM
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Re: Tablet takes a really long time to start up

Have you checked the system for virus infections or Trojans? This sounds
very much like symptoms of a parasite overload, RV. Take a look at this
information: http://www.aumha.org/secure.htm
--
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"RV" <RV@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Update on the problem:
>
> I thought it was disabling the wacom driver that was slowing me down, but
> even after I re-enabled it I still have the same problem. The computer
> sits on the welcome screen and then it loads my desktop without any icons,
> taskbar, or start menu, and sits on that for about a minute before
> completely loading. Any other suggestions? I'm not computer saavy enough
> to mess around with the pagefile.
>
> RV
>
> "terri" wrote:
>
>> It's the Wacom pen driver. It's definitely something you need.
>>
>> Have you updated this from the Wacom site? If so, you might want to roll
>> it
>> back. If you haven't, then give it a try and see if it helps the loading
>> speed.
>> --
>> Terri Stratton
>> Editor / Owner
>> http://thetabletpc.net
>> Microsoft Windows MVP / Tablet PC
>>
>> "RV" <RV@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:69E74B8F-69A8-4374-9E4F-5FDE6A884478@microsoft.com...
>> > Thanks for the help guys:
>> > Here's what I found after I played around w/ msconfig.Every time I
>> > disable
>> > something called "tabUserW" the computer takes along tone to startup.
>> > otherwise it is fine. Any Ideas as to what this Tabusew thing is? I
>> > also
>> > run regular spyware checks on the comp and it didn't find anything this
>> > time except for the usual cookies.
>> >
>> > "Chris H." wrote:
>> >
>> >> RV, go to Start/Run and type in "msconfig" without the quotes, then
>> >> hit
>> >> the
>> >> OK button. Look on the Startup tab to see what's loading in the very
>> >> beginning. You can also look at All Programs/Startup to see what
>> >> programs
>> >> are loading in the background to be "available" for you when you reach
>> >> the
>> >> desktop. You may find some items that aren't necessary. If you do,
>> >> just
>> >> eliminate one at a time and restart the machine to see which one it is
>> >> for
>> >> future reference.
>> >> --
>> >> Chris H.
>> >> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
>> >> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
>> >> Associate Expert
>> >> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "RV" <RV@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:BFE965AD-828A-48FD-876A-F91CAB27AC5A@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Hello:
>> >> >
>> >> > Lately, I've been noticing that my tablet takes and extemely long
>> >> > time
>> >> > to
>> >> > start up. It sits on the welcome screen for a bout a minute or two,
>> >> > then
>> >> > my desktop loads, but only with the background image and no icons,
>> >> > start
>> >> > menu, or taskbar. It sits on this screen for about another minute or
>> >> > two
>> >> > and then it finally finishes loading up completely. It used to
>> >> > happen
>> >> > once
>> >> > in awhile and now it happens like about 75 - 80% of the time I start
>> >> > the
>> >> > computer up. I"m using the Gateway M275XL machine with SP2
>> >> > installed.
>> >> > It
>> >> > also used to happen before I installed SP2 so I don't think its an
>> >> > issue
>> >> > with that. And I haven't installed any software recently.
>> >> >
>> >> > RV
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>

>>
>>



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Old 08-04-2004, 09:30 PM
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Re: Tablet takes a really long time to start up

My experience is that the Symantec AntiVirus program has a LiveUpdate
procedure that cause the long boot time. The LiveUpdate usually start to
check new virus signature file while booting and makes the whole boot
process takes several minutes to complete. I disabled the automatic update
option and the boot time becames normal. Now I update virus code manually.

Austin
Kaohsiung, Taiwan

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> Hello:
>
> Lately, I've been noticing that my tablet takes and extemely long time to

start up. It sits on the welcome screen for a bout a minute or two, then my
desktop loads, but only with the background image and no icons, start menu,
or taskbar. It sits on this screen for about another minute or two and then
it finally finishes loading up completely. It used to happen once in awhile
and now it happens like about 75 - 80% of the time I start the computer up.
I"m using the Gateway M275XL machine with SP2 installed. It also used to
happen before I installed SP2 so I don't think its an issue with that. And I
haven't installed any software recently.
>
> RV



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