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Old 06-03-2008, 08:20 AM
Chuck
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Desktop Orientation

I have a Fujitsu 1610 UMPC, the problem, when in tablet mode is
that when writting in TIP your hand is hitting the function buttons in
landscape, and in portriat mode your hand is resting on the power and usb
plugs. I called Fujitsu support and was told that is just the it is! Does any
one know of a program that will allow the desktop to be changed four
different ways or a fix ?
Thanks,
Chuck
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Old 06-03-2008, 12:00 PM
Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev]
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Re: Desktop Orientation

fwiw, I have to use my 4215 upside down from the "default" tablet mode
because of the screen latch which is located under the support hand heel
which constantly presses and unlatches it.

There are several options...

First, go into control panel and launch the display utility (Intel?)
rather than try to use the windows screen properties.

Once setup the way you want it, you can then go to fujitsu tablet
controls and "save current profile" ...note... the profile will be
specific to the current state... i.e. docked or undocked.

You should also be able to program the buttons to rotate to the
orientation you need.

The display utility shows "hotkeys" which include rotation keys... the
tip will issue these, but, I have found that at times one or more of
these rotation key combos may not work.

Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]
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Old 06-04-2008, 10:30 AM
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Re: Desktop Orientation



"Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev]" wrote:

> fwiw, I have to use my 4215 upside down from the "default" tablet mode
> because of the screen latch which is located under the support hand heel
> which constantly presses and unlatches it.
>
> There are several options...
>
> First, go into control panel and launch the display utility (Intel?)
> rather than try to use the windows screen properties.
>
> Once setup the way you want it, you can then go to fujitsu tablet
> controls and "save current profile" ...note... the profile will be
> specific to the current state... i.e. docked or undocked.
>
> You should also be able to program the buttons to rotate to the
> orientation you need.
>
> The display utility shows "hotkeys" which include rotation keys... the
> tip will issue these, but, I have found that at times one or more of
> these rotation key combos may not work.
>
> Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]
>

Beverly,
Your reply was very helpfull ! But still don't have it correct. In desktop I
can change the orientation by using the Crtl-Alt-and arrow keys, When I turn
the screen to tablet the display goes into portrait! :>( Do you know of a way
to disable it from going into portrait when in tablet mode? If that can be
done then it would be forced into landscape and she could use the
CRLT-Alt-Arrows keys to turn the display 180 deg. prior to going into tablet
mode.
Chuck
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Old 06-04-2008, 11:00 AM
Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev]
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Re: Desktop Orientation

>> In desktop I can change... <<

long distance support has it's problems since the helpers can't see what
is so obvious to you.

It's really not clear to me what you are describing both in general and
with specific statements such as the above... i.e. I have no idea what
is meant by "in desktop"

....please clarify with baby step details so my aged brain can comprehend ;-)

Stabbing in the dark with what I read, it sounds like you are not saving
the profile after setting it... pointing to the fact that you need to be
in the desired "state" (docked/undocked/etc) when you execute the save
profile.

Further, describe the utility (Intel???) and if you have used it to get
to the state you desire or have simply used the hotkeys.

Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]






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Old 06-04-2008, 07:10 PM
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Re: Desktop Orientation



"Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev]" wrote:

> >> In desktop I can change... <<

>
> long distance support has it's problems since the helpers can't see what
> is so obvious to you.
>
> It's really not clear to me what you are describing both in general and
> with specific statements such as the above... i.e. I have no idea what
> is meant by "in desktop"
>
> ....please clarify with baby step details so my aged brain can comprehend ;-)
>
> Stabbing in the dark with what I read, it sounds like you are not saving
> the profile after setting it... pointing to the fact that you need to be
> in the desired "state" (docked/undocked/etc) when you execute the save
> profile.
>
> Further, describe the utility (Intel???) and if you have used it to get
> to the state you desire or have simply used the hotkeys.
>
> Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Old 06-05-2008, 01:20 PM
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RE: Desktop Orientation

Chuck: I don't know if this will help or not as I am not familiar with you
Pc-however, I had experienced on my HP tablet that every time I switched to
tablet mode, the screen would twist an orientation without my promptly it to
do so,
I found in the tablet settings a selection for default & primary Vs.
secondary screen orientations. if you can locate options such as these, try
changing your defaulted primaryorientation to landscape. You'll probably find
that set to portrait. you may also want to go through each setting is when
you move one, they all switch around I had hated how my pc always rotated
landscape portraitlandscape portrait. if h was using portrait, I usually just
wanted to flip the PC to avoid the movie buttons or the thumb reader. I set
mine to do portrait portrait, landscape landscape. So much better for my
needs!
Look in Control Panel, Motile PC, Tablet PC Settings, change screen
orientation.
you should see a tab for display for these options with the 'change
sequence' button to fix it.

And if you don't Know, you can calibrate each screen orientation at the same
time so when you do flip it, you pen won't need to be readjusted.
Just on the dropdown above the calibrate the screen button to change
orientation, then did calibrate. Repeat for each rotation, then set
orientation back towhee you started , and click apply /0k





"Chuck" wrote:

> I have a Fujitsu 1610 UMPC, the problem, when in tablet mode is
> that when writting in TIP your hand is hitting the function buttons in
> landscape, and in portriat mode your hand is resting on the power and usb
> plugs. I called Fujitsu support and was told that is just the it is! Does any
> one know of a program that will allow the desktop to be changed four
> different ways or a fix ?
> Thanks,
> Chuck

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Old 06-06-2008, 01:10 PM
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RE: Desktop Orientation

Ron & Beverely
I have gone thur every thing possiable that I can find, when I turn the
screen and go into tablet mode, the screen goes to portirat no matter how the
setting are changed. Do either of you know if the registry can be edit to
stop it from going into portirat?
Chuck

"Ron G." wrote:

> Chuck: I don't know if this will help or not as I am not familiar with you
> Pc-however, I had experienced on my HP tablet that every time I switched to
> tablet mode, the screen would twist an orientation without my promptly it to
> do so,
> I found in the tablet settings a selection for default & primary Vs.
> secondary screen orientations. if you can locate options such as these, try
> changing your defaulted primaryorientation to landscape. You'll probably find
> that set to portrait. you may also want to go through each setting is when
> you move one, they all switch around I had hated how my pc always rotated
> landscape portraitlandscape portrait. if h was using portrait, I usually just
> wanted to flip the PC to avoid the movie buttons or the thumb reader. I set
> mine to do portrait portrait, landscape landscape. So much better for my
> needs!
> Look in Control Panel, Motile PC, Tablet PC Settings, change screen
> orientation.
> you should see a tab for display for these options with the 'change
> sequence' button to fix it.
>
> And if you don't Know, you can calibrate each screen orientation at the same
> time so when you do flip it, you pen won't need to be readjusted.
> Just on the dropdown above the calibrate the screen button to change
> orientation, then did calibrate. Repeat for each rotation, then set
> orientation back towhee you started , and click apply /0k
>
>
>
>
>
> "Chuck" wrote:
>
> > I have a Fujitsu 1610 UMPC, the problem, when in tablet mode is
> > that when writting in TIP your hand is hitting the function buttons in
> > landscape, and in portriat mode your hand is resting on the power and usb
> > plugs. I called Fujitsu support and was told that is just the it is! Does any
> > one know of a program that will allow the desktop to be changed four
> > different ways or a fix ?
> > Thanks,
> > Chuck

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Old 06-06-2008, 02:10 PM
Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev]
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Re: Desktop Orientation

Chuck,

Since I don't have access to the 1620, the suggestions I make are based
on the 4215 which has similar controls.

Again, we are flying in the dark here because we don't have any
information from you on the exact steps you have taken and what your
current settings are.

__please_ answer all of the following;

1 - did you _ever_ have the ability to set the orientation?

2 - Have you installed or configured anything on the computer?

3 - do the pen input functions work?

4 - how are start/controlpanel/fujtabletcontrols/buttonpanels set?

5 - how is start/controlpanel/tabletandpencontrols/display/change set?


again, exact info... we can't do much with incomplete data.

Assuming the answer to 4 is tablet buttons "enabled" - I would assume
that the screen buttons (near the fingerprint sensor) are similar to the
4215... only two are programmable, and one _should be_ screen
rotation... can you use your manual and determine if one of these is for
screen rotation and what it does when you press it?

We _know_ you are frustrated, but need your help to help you.

Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]


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Old 06-07-2008, 09:10 AM
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Re: Desktop Orientation


Beverly,
Thank you for being paitent with me, and helping!!!

1 - did you _ever_ have the ability to set the orientation?
Yes I can change the orientation in two different ways, one way is to push a
orientation button at the base of the screen that will change the screen form
landscape to portirat, and from portirat to landscape. The other way is togo
into control panel, GMA driver, display settings, there in laptop mode, I can
change the screen orientation four different ways, hit apply and ok and the
screen will stay in that posistion. Still in laptop mode I can change the
screen 180 deg. hit apply.& ok, turn the screen to go in to tablet mode, once
in tablet mode the screen will orientate into portirat.

2 - Have you installed or configured anything on the computer?
Yes I have installed Nextup Talker and NeoSpech, a text to speech program
and NeoSpeech is a female voice for Talker, MS Word, Counter Spy, Hot Mail
and only configured e-mail, nothing else.

> 3 - do the pen input functions work?

Yes, she can write in TIP it will convert to text and
Talker will speak it.

> 4 - how are start/controlpanel/fujtabletcontrols/buttonpanels set?

In the Display Tab / Display Profile, Enable undocked notebook profile, is
checked and Enable undocked Tablet profile, is checked. All others are not
checked.
The Button Panel Tab, nothing is checked.

> 5 - how is start/controlpanel/tabletandpencontrols/display/change set?

On her computer in control there is no "tablet and pen controls" there is an
icon "Pen and Input Devices" In the, Pen Options Tab, under pen action,
Single-tap =Single click, Double-tap=Double click, Press and
hold=Right-click, Start Tablet PC input panel=None. Pen buttons, Use
the pen button as a right-click equivalent is checked
Use the top of the pen to erase ink (where available) Checked
On the, Pointer Options Tab, all boxes are checked
On the, Flicks Tab, Use flicks to perform common actions quickly and easley,
is checked. Navigational flicks, is checked. Navigational flicks and
editing flicks, not checked. Display flicks icon in the notification
area, not checked.
On the, Touch Tab, use your finger as an input device, is checked, Touch
Pointer, Show the touch pointer when I'm interacting with items on the
screen, is checked.

I sure hope this helps, and thank you again!!
Chuck



"Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev]" wrote:

> Chuck,
>
> Since I don't have access to the 1620, the suggestions I make are based
> on the 4215 which has similar controls.
>
> Again, we are flying in the dark here because we don't have any
> information from you on the exact steps you have taken and what your
> current settings are.
>
> __please_ answer all of the following;
>
> 1 - did you _ever_ have the ability to set the orientation?
>
> 2 - Have you installed or configured anything on the computer?
>
> 3 - do the pen input functions work?
>
> 4 - how are start/controlpanel/fujtabletcontrols/buttonpanels set?
>
> 5 - how is start/controlpanel/tabletandpencontrols/display/change set?
>
>
> again, exact info... we can't do much with incomplete data.
>
> Assuming the answer to 4 is tablet buttons "enabled" - I would assume
> that the screen buttons (near the fingerprint sensor) are similar to the
> 4215... only two are programmable, and one _should be_ screen
> rotation... can you use your manual and determine if one of these is for
> screen rotation and what it does when you press it?
>
> We _know_ you are frustrated, but need your help to help you.
>
> Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]
>
>
>

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Old 06-07-2008, 07:50 PM
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Re: Desktop Orientation

Good info... will follow up tomorrow (with more questions ;-)... tis
late and am tired.

Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]
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Old 06-08-2008, 04:10 PM
Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev]
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Re: Desktop Orientation

>> 5 - how is start/controlpanel/tabletandpencontrols/display/change
set? <<

See if there is a start/controlpanel/ "tablet and pen settings" which
would present the boxes shown in the attached images.

This control on the T4215 sets the orientation for the _current_ use
mode... i.e. if you open the above folded as a tablet, it will display
the orientation for "tablet use" and, if you change to laptop and open
the controls, it will show what is set for the laptop... obviously, if
you change the orientation it will show the current setting.

Once you have the above set to your preference _in the mode you want to
use it_ such as tablet, the control panel "fujitsu tablet controls" has
a "save current profile" which, when done and the computer rebooted,
should bring it back to the same orientation for the same use mode.

If, you don't have the above, it's time to go back to fuj tech support
and ask what replaced this.

Going back to your original post, if the above does not get you to a
solution, please review your post and rewrite it (again in baby steps)
to make it as clear as possible what you are trying to achieve as that
is not currently clear to me.

Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]



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Old 06-11-2008, 06:00 PM
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Re: Desktop Orientation

Beverly,
I give up!
The reason is because I built a laptop tray that Will elavate to different
angles, she can turn the tray 180 deg. put the computer in Tablet mode and
raise the tray so that it is comfortable to to write on. I have gone through
every setting that you suggested, and that the computer has, and it will not
orientate the way I think it should.
I thank you for your time and effort!!
Chuck


"Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev]" wrote:

> >> 5 - how is start/controlpanel/tabletandpencontrols/display/change

> set? <<
>
> See if there is a start/controlpanel/ "tablet and pen settings" which
> would present the boxes shown in the attached images.
>
> This control on the T4215 sets the orientation for the _current_ use
> mode... i.e. if you open the above folded as a tablet, it will display
> the orientation for "tablet use" and, if you change to laptop and open
> the controls, it will show what is set for the laptop... obviously, if
> you change the orientation it will show the current setting.
>
> Once you have the above set to your preference _in the mode you want to
> use it_ such as tablet, the control panel "fujitsu tablet controls" has
> a "save current profile" which, when done and the computer rebooted,
> should bring it back to the same orientation for the same use mode.
>
> If, you don't have the above, it's time to go back to fuj tech support
> and ask what replaced this.
>
> Going back to your original post, if the above does not get you to a
> solution, please review your post and rewrite it (again in baby steps)
> to make it as clear as possible what you are trying to achieve as that
> is not currently clear to me.
>
> Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]
>
>
>

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