I would like to explore using Tablets at our school and allow students to
submit papers via email so that instructors can provide written feedback on
the documents and then send them back to the student.

1. Can anyone think of any issues with this?

2. Can Mac users read ink on .doc files?

3. Is there a way to lock ink so that it can not be erased?

4. Is there a program that would allow an instructor to connect a tablet to
an overhead, write lecture notes on the tablet, and have those notes
converted to graphic files, or a format that could easily be uploaded to the
web?


Thanks.

Yes, Steve. Definitely, but on the Mac issues it would need the specific
programs to read the .doc files you envision being produced. You might want
to take a look at this case study at Northeastern University:
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/c...eStudyID=15376
There are several Tablet PC-specific programs which can be used with
educational operations in mind, including Microsoft's OneNote
(http://office.microsoft.com/home/off...tid=FX01085803) and the
GoBinder from Agilix (http://www.gobinder.com/index.html).
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"Steve" <steveatnowhere@nowdoesnotexist.com> wrote in message
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>I would like to explore using Tablets at our school and allow students to
> submit papers via email so that instructors can provide written feedback
> on
> the documents and then send them back to the student.
>
> 1. Can anyone think of any issues with this?
>
> 2. Can Mac users read ink on .doc files?
>
> 3. Is there a way to lock ink so that it can not be erased?
>
> 4. Is there a program that would allow an instructor to connect a tablet
> to
> an overhead, write lecture notes on the tablet, and have those notes
> converted to graphic files, or a format that could easily be uploaded to
> the
> web?
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>

"Steve" <steveatnowhere@nowdoesnotexist.com> wrote in message
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> 4. Is there a program that would allow an instructor to connect a tablet
> to
> an overhead, write lecture notes on the tablet, and have those notes
> converted to graphic files, or a format that could easily be uploaded to
> the
> web?

There are several ways to do this including
1. using ink on PowerPoint 2003 (or PowerPoint 2002 and the Office XP tablet
pack). The slides can be saved as graphic files or as web format from PPT
2. writing in Journal and exporting to Web archives (.MHT files)

Thanks guys for the responses.

1.) What are web format? Does this just mean it will convert the PowerPoint
to HTML and convert the ink parts to .gif files?

2.) What is Journal? Is this a program that comes with TabletOS? Is there a
reason to use Journal if you have OneNote?

Thanks!




"Mike Williams [MVP]" <mikew@Nospam]mvps.org> wrote in message
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>
> "Steve" <steveatnowhere@nowdoesnotexist.com> wrote in message
> news:eZFdpFHWEHA.208@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>
> > 4. Is there a program that would allow an instructor to connect a tablet
> > to
> > an overhead, write lecture notes on the tablet, and have those notes
> > converted to graphic files, or a format that could easily be uploaded to
> > the
> > web?
>
> There are several ways to do this including
> 1. using ink on PowerPoint 2003 (or PowerPoint 2002 and the Office XP
tablet
> pack). The slides can be saved as graphic files or as web format from PPT
> 2. writing in Journal and exporting to Web archives (.MHT files)
>
>

In article <#0VpmRIWEHA.3012@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl>,
steveatnowhere@nowdoesnotexist.com says...
> What is Journal? Is this a program that comes with TabletOS? Is there a
> reason to use Journal if you have OneNote?

Yes, it comes with Windows XP Tablet PC edition. There are definitely
distinct differences between the two apps. I use OneNote for my
handwritten and typed note taking. I like the tabbed interface. However,
marking up things can be a bit of a pain for me so I use Journal for
things like that. I think of Journal as my magic white board. You can
draw anywhere without worrying about which drawing box a particular mark
is going to end up in. You can also, and I like this part the best, group
different marks together and then drag, drop, and resize them as a unit.

Let's say you are creating a flow chart. You can group the label with the
box and then rearrange the boxes all you want. This is not nearly as easy
in OneNote.

So I use OneNote for my handwritten notes and Journal for my drawing type
notes. Many people have already asked for the same functionality to be
incorporated into OneNote but I don't think that is going to happen any
time soon. So, for now, this is a great combination for me.

"Steve" <steveatnowhere@nowdoesnotexist.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks guys for the responses.
>
> 1.) What are web format? Does this just mean it will convert the
> PowerPoint
> to HTML and convert the ink parts to .gif files?

PowerPoint has a feature to save any or all slides to common image formats
(not a well-known feature,but very useful).

If you save Office docs to HTML or MHT format then certain page elements
will be saved as image files.

Steve, to answer number 2, you may want to give this link a try if you want
an idea if Macs can read ink.
http://www.macnet2.com/more.php?id=501_0_1_0

I know that several of the online comic artists use Mac OSX and wacom
tablets to do their art, so ink is in the Mac OS. Just how deep it goes, l
don't know

As an instructor I feel I can safely say that you can easily connect any
notebook (if it has VGA or s-video ports) to a projector. Check to make sure
the tablet you choose can do presentations, or connect to a projector. You
can then annotate slides and documents on screen, & save them in the file
format that you wish. As for there being a particular piece of software to
facilitate this (other than the OS, and possibly an add on pack for ms
office), I don't know.

HTH
-callahan

"Steve" <steveatnowhere@nowdoesnotexist.com> wrote in message
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> I would like to explore using Tablets at our school and allow students to
> submit papers via email so that instructors can provide written feedback
on
> the documents and then send them back to the student.
>
> 1. Can anyone think of any issues with this?
>
> 2. Can Mac users read ink on .doc files?
>
> 3. Is there a way to lock ink so that it can not be erased?
>
> 4. Is there a program that would allow an instructor to connect a tablet
to
> an overhead, write lecture notes on the tablet, and have those notes
> converted to graphic files, or a format that could easily be uploaded to
the
> web?
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>

"Callahan" <callahanmct@SPAMBAD.comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Steve, to answer number 2, you may want to give this link a try if you
> want
> an idea if Macs can read ink.
> http://www.macnet2.com/more.php?id=501_0_1_0
>
> I know that several of the online comic artists use Mac OSX and wacom
> tablets to do their art, so ink is in the Mac OS. Just how deep it goes, l
> don't know

In that context it's only ink as a graphic artefact within drawing programs.
On Tablets it's understood to be a particular data-type that requires system
ink services to render.

Sorry Mike, l don't think I chose the best link to demonstrate the Mac's ink
(called inkwell) ability. I don't mean to argue, but I think it has been
native to the Mac OS since 10 came out. And it's not just graphics, it's
text/handwriting recognition as well.

http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/inkwell/

-callahan

"Mike Williams [MVP]" <mikew@Nospam]mvps.org> wrote in message
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>
> "Callahan" <callahanmct@SPAMBAD.comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:egEj1dNWEHA.3492@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > Steve, to answer number 2, you may want to give this link a try if you
> > want
> > an idea if Macs can read ink.
> > http://www.macnet2.com/more.php?id=501_0_1_0
> >
> > I know that several of the online comic artists use Mac OSX and wacom
> > tablets to do their art, so ink is in the Mac OS. Just how deep it goes,
l
> > don't know
>
> In that context it's only ink as a graphic artefact within drawing
programs.
> On Tablets it's understood to be a particular data-type that requires
system
> ink services to render.
>
>

In article <#9B9GzSWEHA.2816@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl>,
callahanmct@SPAMBAD.comcast.net says...
> Sorry Mike, l don't think I chose the best link to demonstrate the Mac's ink
> (called inkwell) ability. I don't mean to argue, but I think it has been
> native to the Mac OS since 10 came out. And it's not just graphics, it's
> text/handwriting recognition as well.
>
> http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/inkwell/

So when is Apple going to come out with a Tablet PC? I live in a college
town and half of my friends have Mac's. I show them the Tablet PC and
they tell me it is just a fad that will die out. I tell them if Apple had
one they would buy it in an instant.

Now Please don't start a Mac vs. PC war. I actually think if Apple came
out with a Tablet PC (They would probably call it a G5 Tablet or
something like that) that it would help legitimize the technology and
Microsoft would then sell more copies of Windows XP Tablet PC Edition.

"Callahan" <callahanmct@SPAMBAD.comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Sorry Mike, l don't think I chose the best link to demonstrate the Mac's
> ink
> (called inkwell) ability. I don't mean to argue, but I think it has been
> native to the Mac OS since 10 came out. And it's not just graphics, it's
> text/handwriting recognition as well.
>
> http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/inkwell/

Doesn't mean it is the same thing as the Tablet ink type or that Tablet ink
docs will be rendered on a Mac. I'm a bit skeptical about their handwriting
recognition claims - anyone remember the Newton?

They did. They named it Newton. :)

--
Terri Stratton
Microsoft Windows MVP / Tablet PC
http://thetabletpc.net
Expert Zone - http://microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/default.asp


"Grant Robertson" <BOGUS@BOGUS.com> wrote in message
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> In article <#9B9GzSWEHA.2816@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl>,
> callahanmct@SPAMBAD.comcast.net says...
>> Sorry Mike, l don't think I chose the best link to demonstrate the Mac's
>> ink
>> (called inkwell) ability. I don't mean to argue, but I think it has been
>> native to the Mac OS since 10 came out. And it's not just graphics, it's
>> text/handwriting recognition as well.
>>
>> http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/inkwell/
>
> So when is Apple going to come out with a Tablet PC? I live in a college
> town and half of my friends have Mac's. I show them the Tablet PC and
> they tell me it is just a fad that will die out. I tell them if Apple had
> one they would buy it in an instant.
>
> Now Please don't start a Mac vs. PC war. I actually think if Apple came
> out with a Tablet PC (They would probably call it a G5 Tablet or
> something like that) that it would help legitimize the technology and
> Microsoft would then sell more copies of Windows XP Tablet PC Edition.

Rumor has it that they are thinking about it. :)

I honestly have both Macs and PCs and make a pretty penny integrating them
(when I am not teaching/presenting). I too don't want to start any battles,
but sometimes I do feel as if there are a few features in the Mac OS that
tend to be overlooked by everyone. I mean Apple is getting better at
blowing their own horn, but they still have a ways to go. Newton or no
(which was great for me BTW, for some reason it learned my handwriting just
fine), the capability is there. So for someone in education, when they
already have Macs in the schools, it's an idea. Mind you, those wacom
tablets are not portable.

-callahan

"Grant Robertson" <BOGUS@BOGUS.com> wrote in message
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> In article <#9B9GzSWEHA.2816@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl>,
> callahanmct@SPAMBAD.comcast.net says...
> > Sorry Mike, l don't think I chose the best link to demonstrate the Mac's
ink
> > (called inkwell) ability. I don't mean to argue, but I think it has been
> > native to the Mac OS since 10 came out. And it's not just graphics, it's
> > text/handwriting recognition as well.
> >
> > http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/inkwell/
>
> So when is Apple going to come out with a Tablet PC? I live in a college
> town and half of my friends have Mac's. I show them the Tablet PC and
> they tell me it is just a fad that will die out. I tell them if Apple had
> one they would buy it in an instant.
>
> Now Please don't start a Mac vs. PC war. I actually think if Apple came
> out with a Tablet PC (They would probably call it a G5 Tablet or
> something like that) that it would help legitimize the technology and
> Microsoft would then sell more copies of Windows XP Tablet PC Edition.

The problem with Wacom writing pads is they sample primarily at the rate the
mouse does. Since Tablet PC requirements are triple and higher for sampling
with the digital screens, the Ink is much better recognized and the user
experience is much enhanced.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"Callahan" <callahanmct@SPAMBAD.comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Rumor has it that they are thinking about it. :)
>
> I honestly have both Macs and PCs and make a pretty penny integrating them
> (when I am not teaching/presenting). I too don't want to start any
> battles,
> but sometimes I do feel as if there are a few features in the Mac OS that
> tend to be overlooked by everyone. I mean Apple is getting better at
> blowing their own horn, but they still have a ways to go. Newton or no
> (which was great for me BTW, for some reason it learned my handwriting
> just
> fine), the capability is there. So for someone in education, when they
> already have Macs in the schools, it's an idea. Mind you, those wacom
> tablets are not portable.
>
> -callahan

Yeah you have a good point with that. Although I am accustomed to mouse
speeds, I can see where that could be an issue.

-callahan


"Chris H." <winxpnews********.com> wrote in message
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> The problem with Wacom writing pads is they sample primarily at the rate
the
> mouse does. Since Tablet PC requirements are triple and higher for
sampling
> with the digital screens, the Ink is much better recognized and the user
> experience is much enhanced.
> --
> Chris H.
> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> Associate Expert
> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>
>
> "Callahan" <callahanmct@SPAMBAD.comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:%235eXBgXWEHA.808@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > Rumor has it that they are thinking about it. :)
> >
> > I honestly have both Macs and PCs and make a pretty penny integrating
them
> > (when I am not teaching/presenting). I too don't want to start any
> > battles,
> > but sometimes I do feel as if there are a few features in the Mac OS
that
> > tend to be overlooked by everyone. I mean Apple is getting better at
> > blowing their own horn, but they still have a ways to go. Newton or no
> > (which was great for me BTW, for some reason it learned my handwriting
> > just
> > fine), the capability is there. So for someone in education, when they
> > already have Macs in the schools, it's an idea. Mind you, those wacom
> > tablets are not portable.
> >
> > -callahan
>
>