We are in the latter stages of developing a tablet PC, and we have been running XP Pro. What would it take for us to start putting Tablet OS on the engineering prototypes? We have been unable to locate a local source for JUST the OS. Does one have to be in the MSDN to get a copy of the MS tablet OS for the purpose of testing the product and our software solution together?

Any help would be appreciated! Thank you!

T.

If you're building a Tablet PC, then you'd need to contact Microsoft about
obtaining the OS for testing. Hardware requirements are stringent, as I'm
sure you know.

The OS is not sold separately.

--
Terri Stratton
Microsoft Windows MVP / Tablet PC
http://thetabletpc.net
Expert Zone - http://microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/default.asp


"wefixpc4u" <wefixpc4u@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:6DCA88C2-A83C-400A-AD6F-2567B18614B8@microsoft.com...
> We are in the latter stages of developing a tablet PC, and we have been
> running XP Pro. What would it take for us to start putting Tablet OS on
> the engineering prototypes? We have been unable to locate a local source
> for JUST the OS. Does one have to be in the MSDN to get a copy of the MS
> tablet OS for the purpose of testing the product and our software solution
> together?
>
> Any help would be appreciated! Thank you!
>
> T.

In article <6DCA88C2-A83C-400A-AD6F-2567B18614B8@microsoft.com>,
wefixpc4u@discussions.microsoft.com says...
> We are in the latter stages of developing a tablet PC, and we have been running XP Pro. What would it take for us to start putting Tablet OS on the engineering prototypes? We have been unable to locate a local source for JUST the OS. Does one have to be in the MSDN to get a copy of the MS tablet OS for the purpose of testing
the product and our software solution together?

What company do you work for? I want to make sure never to buy any
products from them. Any company that claims to be developing a Tablet PC
but hasn't even contacted Microsoft yet is not the kind of company I
would ever trust my money to.

That's a pretty ignorant remark.

--
Josh Einstein
Einstein Technologies
--------------------------------------------------------
Add ink input to Outlook with Tablet Enhancements for Outlook! Only $19.99!
http://www.einsteinware.com

"Grant Robertson" <BOGUS@BOGUS.com> wrote in message
news:ux%23gD$7TEHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> In article <6DCA88C2-A83C-400A-AD6F-2567B18614B8@microsoft.com>,
> wefixpc4u@discussions.microsoft.com says...
>> We are in the latter stages of developing a tablet PC, and we have been
>> running XP Pro. What would it take for us to start putting Tablet OS on
>> the engineering prototypes? We have been unable to locate a local source
>> for JUST the OS. Does one have to be in the MSDN to get a copy of the MS
>> tablet OS for the purpose of testing
> the product and our software solution together?
>
> What company do you work for? I want to make sure never to buy any
> products from them. Any company that claims to be developing a Tablet PC
> but hasn't even contacted Microsoft yet is not the kind of company I
> would ever trust my money to.

In article <#cNHhCBUEHA.2544@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl>,
josheinstein********.com says...
> That's a pretty ignorant remark.
>
>
I know I was pretty harsh. But really, would you want to buy a Tablet PC
from a company who claims to be in the process of designing one and
hasn't even had the gumption to contact Microsoft to get the spec's?

This is a Microsoft newsgroup but Microsoft is not the sole owner of the
term "Tablet PC". Perhaps he was looking at building a laptop with touch
screen capabilities and is starting to realize the benefits that Microsoft's
Tablet PC operating system has to offer.

--
Josh Einstein
Einstein Technologies
--------------------------------------------------------
Add ink input to Outlook with Tablet Enhancements for Outlook! Only $19.99!
http://www.einsteinware.com

"Grant Robertson" <BOGUS@BOGUS.com> wrote in message
news:OV4FxoJUEHA.1656@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> In article <#cNHhCBUEHA.2544@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl>,
> josheinstein********.com says...
>> That's a pretty ignorant remark.
>>
>>
> I know I was pretty harsh. But really, would you want to buy a Tablet PC
> from a company who claims to be in the process of designing one and
> hasn't even had the gumption to contact Microsoft to get the spec's?

In article <uQ7O9TPUEHA.1652@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl>,
josheinstein********.com says...
> This is a Microsoft newsgroup but Microsoft is not the sole owner of the
> term "Tablet PC". Perhaps he was looking at building a laptop with touch
> screen capabilities and is starting to realize the benefits that Microsoft's
> Tablet PC operating system has to offer.
>
>
Actually, I was under the impression that Microsoft had trademarked the
term "Tablet PC" and that other people were using "Tablet Computer"
instead. But I may be wrong on that point.

Regardless, even if what you say is true (which was not even hinted at by
the original poster), the painfully obvious first step is to contact
Microsoft directly. Not try and glom onto a copy of the OS to start
fiddling with. That's the problem with the computer industry today. Far
too many products are just fiddled with until some marketing exec says.
"Ship it!". There is very little actual planning involved. Well, I, for
one, don't want to buy any products from a company that is so obviously
just fiddling with things. You can rationalize and speculate all day but
that still doesn't make fiddling with things a good way to design a
Tablet PC. And you are certainly not ever going to convince me that it
is. If you want to buy cobbled together crap then you go right ahead.
That's your business. But stop trying to convince me that I am wrong and
stop trying to make me out to be some heinous fiend for having an
opinion. Considering the lack of response I doubt the original poster is
even checking back for answers.

Sorry that you're so easily offended. Half the equipment in your PC was
probably "fiddled with" by your definition. Your opinions have offered zero
value to this newsgroup.

I'm as big a supporter and fan of Microsoft as the next guy but they are not
the governing authority on PC manufacturing - regardless of the platform.
Get over that.

--
Josh Einstein
Einstein Technologies
--------------------------------------------------------
Add ink input to Outlook with Tablet Enhancements for Outlook! Only $19.99!
http://www.einsteinware.com

"Grant Robertson" <BOGUS@BOGUS.com> wrote in message
news:u$vfDvWUEHA.4048@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> In article <uQ7O9TPUEHA.1652@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl>,
> josheinstein********.com says...
>> This is a Microsoft newsgroup but Microsoft is not the sole owner of the
>> term "Tablet PC". Perhaps he was looking at building a laptop with touch
>> screen capabilities and is starting to realize the benefits that
>> Microsoft's
>> Tablet PC operating system has to offer.
>>
>>
> Actually, I was under the impression that Microsoft had trademarked the
> term "Tablet PC" and that other people were using "Tablet Computer"
> instead. But I may be wrong on that point.
>
> Regardless, even if what you say is true (which was not even hinted at by
> the original poster), the painfully obvious first step is to contact
> Microsoft directly. Not try and glom onto a copy of the OS to start
> fiddling with. That's the problem with the computer industry today. Far
> too many products are just fiddled with until some marketing exec says.
> "Ship it!". There is very little actual planning involved. Well, I, for
> one, don't want to buy any products from a company that is so obviously
> just fiddling with things. You can rationalize and speculate all day but
> that still doesn't make fiddling with things a good way to design a
> Tablet PC. And you are certainly not ever going to convince me that it
> is. If you want to buy cobbled together crap then you go right ahead.
> That's your business. But stop trying to convince me that I am wrong and
> stop trying to make me out to be some heinous fiend for having an
> opinion. Considering the lack of response I doubt the original poster is
> even checking back for answers.

Wow. Dude. Not that Josh needs or asked for my help in this disagreement but I'll chime in because it is very important for different points of view to be openly discussed and not just screamed down.

After 30 years of being an industry observer and participant, I've found that most things begin with someone's idea being 'fiddled' with in their heads and later in prototypes so that more people can fiddle with it.

Maybe you are defining fiddling a bit differently than many others here but I use the term as a tweak or test or refinement of an idea or thought. If you will, it's a modified brainstorm.

It is absolutely vital to the product cycle to tinker before bringing something to market. Things in our world aren't just "created" with a bang.

Strangely, I think you meant that you wouldn't want this product to appear on a store shelf tomorrow ... but ... I can't speak for you .. maybe after he finds the right contacts at MS and makes proper tweaks then in a few months the product is ready for the store shelves. Is that acceptable?

Now, in terms of the person not contacting Microsoft before now - heck - that is not only possible - it's very probably correct. Microsoft is a huge company. Even Microsoft doesn't talk to people at Intel all the time - and they may be working on the same thing. It's okay. It's just part of the industry.

If you know who he should contact then let him know in the post. I'm not sure who might have the correct answer for him. Maybe someone else here does. If you know then help the guy out.

Many people do not check for answers immediately, especially if they are busy. An alternative explanation may simply be he does not feel compeled to respond to the type of message that you've posted because you are being a bit harsh to the original post and to Josh.

Personally, the more people fiddling with the Tablet PC - the better. If you disagree then you are welcome to your opinion. You don't need to change your mind. Life is good.

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