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Old 06-06-2004, 07:14 PM
Terri K. Schurter
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Choosing Between Motion 1400 and Motion 1300

I have decided on a Motion tablet when I finally make my tablet
purchase. I might wait until the new operating system is out.

I was pleased when Motion came out with a new model, but I wonder why
they do not offer the "view anywhere" screen on the 1400. I don't
anticipate using the slate outdoors, but I will be using it under
floresent light in my classroom. I have noticed that my desktop LCD
is easily viewable under the classroom lighting. (I am the teacher)
But I have noticed that my laptop screen is not as crisp as the
desktop under the floresent lighting. I am wondering if the slate
screen will also suffer in the floresent lighting, and if the "view
anywhere" screen is the answer. I also think I might want to use the
slate in the passenger seat of the car while on drives with my
husband.

Should I just get the 1300 with the view anywhere screen? Or am I
missing something special by not getting the 1400?

Terri
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Old 06-06-2004, 07:14 PM
Josh Einstein
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Re: Choosing Between Motion 1400 and Motion 1300

A couple things...

1) I've heard rumors that the M1300 View Anywhere isn't available yet and
that certain sites claiming to stock it are not actually stocking.

2) There is really no need to wait for Tablet PC 2005. It's going to be a
free upgrade and you could always download the release candidates today
(which I've had no problems with at all.)

3) The flourecent lights shouldn't be a problem for most tablets. They're
used in office buildings all the time. You have to decide whether the
ability to use it outdoors is worth the extra cost. For example, I almost
went with a Fujitsu with the outdoor screen but realized I probably won't
use it outdoors that much, especially considering it doesn't have a
keyboard. I ended up choosing the Electrovaya which is usable outdoors (not
an outdoor screen, but is readable) because of the additional battery life.

Choosing Tablet PCs is HARD WORK and no one will be able to help you make
your decision. It's a very personal decision.

--
Josh Einstein
Einstein Technologies
--------------------------------------------------------
Add ink input to Outlook with Tablet Enhancements for Outlook! Only $19.99!
http://www.einsteinware.com

"Terri K. Schurter" <goddess@wingsgoclub.org> wrote in message
news:6578dd39.0406061620.7a0515f0@posting.google.c om...
> I have decided on a Motion tablet when I finally make my tablet
> purchase. I might wait until the new operating system is out.
>
> I was pleased when Motion came out with a new model, but I wonder why
> they do not offer the "view anywhere" screen on the 1400. I don't
> anticipate using the slate outdoors, but I will be using it under
> floresent light in my classroom. I have noticed that my desktop LCD
> is easily viewable under the classroom lighting. (I am the teacher)
> But I have noticed that my laptop screen is not as crisp as the
> desktop under the floresent lighting. I am wondering if the slate
> screen will also suffer in the floresent lighting, and if the "view
> anywhere" screen is the answer. I also think I might want to use the
> slate in the passenger seat of the car while on drives with my
> husband.
>
> Should I just get the 1300 with the view anywhere screen? Or am I
> missing something special by not getting the 1400?
>
> Terri



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Old 06-06-2004, 07:14 PM
terri
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Re: Choosing Between Motion 1400 and Motion 1300

Hi, Terri,

Depending on when you plan to actually making the purchase, there may be a
M1400 with ViewAnywhere.

I've used both, and there's no question that the ViewAnywhere is better in
bright light and outdoors. The M1400, on the other hand, gives a much wider
viewing angle. This can be a plus when the screen isn't at the perfect
angle, but can be a problem if you're working on something you'd prefer
someone next to you not see.

--
Terri Stratton
Microsoft Windows MVP / Tablet PC
http://thetabletpc.net
Expert Zone - http://microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/default.asp


"Terri K. Schurter" <goddess@wingsgoclub.org> wrote in message
news:6578dd39.0406061620.7a0515f0@posting.google.c om...
>I have decided on a Motion tablet when I finally make my tablet
> purchase. I might wait until the new operating system is out.
>
> I was pleased when Motion came out with a new model, but I wonder why
> they do not offer the "view anywhere" screen on the 1400. I don't
> anticipate using the slate outdoors, but I will be using it under
> floresent light in my classroom. I have noticed that my desktop LCD
> is easily viewable under the classroom lighting. (I am the teacher)
> But I have noticed that my laptop screen is not as crisp as the
> desktop under the floresent lighting. I am wondering if the slate
> screen will also suffer in the floresent lighting, and if the "view
> anywhere" screen is the answer. I also think I might want to use the
> slate in the passenger seat of the car while on drives with my
> husband.
>
> Should I just get the 1300 with the view anywhere screen? Or am I
> missing something special by not getting the 1400?
>
> Terri


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Old 06-06-2004, 07:14 PM
Mike Williams [MVP]
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Re: Choosing Between Motion 1400 and Motion 1300


"Josh Einstein" <josheinstein********.com> wrote in message
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> 2) There is really no need to wait for Tablet PC 2005. It's going to be a
> free upgrade and you could always download the release candidates today
> (which I've had no problems with at all.)


Every build from RC1 on has blue screened or worse with my M1300 so I'm
waiting for others to report back on early installs before trying another
build.


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Old 06-06-2004, 07:48 PM
terri
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Re: Choosing Between Motion 1400 and Motion 1300

I've used several builds on my M1300 with very minor issues only.
--
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Microsoft Windows MVP / Tablet PC
http://thetabletpc.net
Expert Zone - http://microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/default.asp


"Mike Williams [MVP]" <mikew@Nospam]mvps.org> wrote in message
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>
> "Josh Einstein" <josheinstein********.com> wrote in message
> news:uPbGzYCTEHA.3332@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> 2) There is really no need to wait for Tablet PC 2005. It's going to be a
>> free upgrade and you could always download the release candidates today
>> (which I've had no problems with at all.)

>
> Every build from RC1 on has blue screened or worse with my M1300 so I'm
> waiting for others to report back on early installs before trying another
> build.
>
>


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Old 06-06-2004, 09:26 PM
Chris H.
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Re: Choosing Between Motion 1400 and Motion 1300

Relatively minor issues here, too, Mike, on three Tablets. I suggest you
keep filing bug reports via the mechanism available to you. The RC1 public
preview version is all that's available to regular users to download.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"Mike Williams [MVP]" <mikew@Nospam]mvps.org> wrote in message
news:OpOVumCTEHA.2692@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>
> "Josh Einstein" <josheinstein********.com> wrote in message
> news:uPbGzYCTEHA.3332@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> 2) There is really no need to wait for Tablet PC 2005. It's going to be a
>> free upgrade and you could always download the release candidates today
>> (which I've had no problems with at all.)

>
> Every build from RC1 on has blue screened or worse with my M1300 so I'm
> waiting for others to report back on early installs before trying another
> build.
>
>



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Old 06-06-2004, 09:26 PM
Mike Williams [MVP]
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Re: Choosing Between Motion 1400 and Motion 1300


"Chris H." <winxpnews********.com> wrote in message
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> Relatively minor issues here, too, Mike, on three Tablets. I suggest you
> keep filing bug reports via the mechanism available to you. The RC1

public
> preview version is all that's available to regular users to download.


As I'm travelling at the moment, it's not quite worth my while. Those builds
left my Tablet unbootable, even when installed on fresh SP1 builds. I've
continued to see reports of the same results from builds up to 2142 so I'm
holding off. I can't file bugs on any features past a failure to boot :-(
I'm lunching with some Tablet Team pals this week so I may have to slap them
around a bit :-)


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Old 06-06-2004, 11:27 PM
Chris H.
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Re: Choosing Between Motion 1400 and Motion 1300

Please do. 8-)
--
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Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"Mike Williams [MVP]" <mikew@Nospam]mvps.org> wrote in message
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>
>
> As I'm travelling at the moment, it's not quite worth my while. Those
> builds
> left my Tablet unbootable, even when installed on fresh SP1 builds. I've
> continued to see reports of the same results from builds up to 2142 so I'm
> holding off. I can't file bugs on any features past a failure to boot :-(
> I'm lunching with some Tablet Team pals this week so I may have to slap
> them
> around a bit :-)
>
>



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Old 06-07-2004, 07:11 AM
Michael Gerbasio
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Re: Choosing Between Motion 1400 and Motion 1300

Terri,
I'm this close || to buying the M1400. My biggest concern is the wi-fi.
PCMag has give the M1400 a pretty poor rating when it comes to wi-fi range
and throughput. Right now I'm using a Thinkpad X31 and I'd hate to take a
step backwards with wi-fi since I use it all the time. Otherwise the PCMag
review says this is the one to buy.

I'd also would like the view anywhere screen on the M1400 but the wider
viewing angle on the current screen isn't a bad tradeoff.

Regards-Michael G.


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Old 06-07-2004, 03:27 PM
Deb
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Re: Choosing Between Motion 1400 and Motion 1300

Michael
I have a linksys wireless 80211b on a DSL connection. With my M1300 at the
other end of my house (through 3 walls) I was getting 2-3 green bars (signal
strength). I recently purchased an M1400 and now get 3-4 green bars at the
same place on far end of house. I probably should have the linksys in the
middle of the house but the newer motion seems to perform better.
HTH
Deb



"Michael Gerbasio" <mwgerbasio********.com> wrote in message
news:O8YXsWJTEHA.1048@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Terri,
> I'm this close || to buying the M1400. My biggest concern is the wi-fi.
> PCMag has give the M1400 a pretty poor rating when it comes to wi-fi range
> and throughput. Right now I'm using a Thinkpad X31 and I'd hate to take a
> step backwards with wi-fi since I use it all the time. Otherwise the

PCMag
> review says this is the one to buy.
>
> I'd also would like the view anywhere screen on the M1400 but the wider
> viewing angle on the current screen isn't a bad tradeoff.
>
> Regards-Michael G.
>
>



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Old 06-07-2004, 03:27 PM
terri
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Re: Choosing Between Motion 1400 and Motion 1300

Michael, I can't speak to the M1400 since I haven't had that much time with
it, but I have both an M1200 and the M1300 and I've had no problems with
wi-fi. I'm not sure what the problems PCMag are seeing, but I'll take a
look at the article.

The array mic and the viewing angle on the M1400 are way above the norm for
Tablets.

Interesting aside - the G8 conference for world leaders will be using
Motions. I have the full story on my news page along with another Motion
announcement about its CEO.

--
Terri Stratton
Microsoft Windows MVP / Tablet PC
http://thetabletpc.net
Expert Zone - http://microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/default.asp


"Michael Gerbasio" <mwgerbasio********.com> wrote in message
news:O8YXsWJTEHA.1048@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Terri,
> I'm this close || to buying the M1400. My biggest concern is the wi-fi.
> PCMag has give the M1400 a pretty poor rating when it comes to wi-fi range
> and throughput. Right now I'm using a Thinkpad X31 and I'd hate to take a
> step backwards with wi-fi since I use it all the time. Otherwise the
> PCMag
> review says this is the one to buy.
>
> I'd also would like the view anywhere screen on the M1400 but the wider
> viewing angle on the current screen isn't a bad tradeoff.
>
> Regards-Michael G.
>
>


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Old 06-07-2004, 03:27 PM
Michael Gerbasio
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Re: Choosing Between Motion 1400 and Motion 1300

Terri,
After reading Debbie's and your comments, I went to the Motion site and was
ready to purchase. Unfortunately, looking at the terms of sale, they don't
allow for a refund. That for me is a show stopper; too much money to invest
for hardware that just might not work for me. I'd be buying site unseen so
there is no way to judge the quality or knowing how well tabletpc software
fits my needs.

I doubt I'd return the tabletpc from the reading I've done, but for
something I haven't had a chance to even try, $2.5k is too much money. I'm
not interested in a convertible like the Toshiba since it is too heavy, kind
of defeats the purpose of a tabletpc. Guess I'll wait for HP to improve the
1100 with a larger screen and stick with my Thinkpad X31 for now. Thanks.

Regards-Michael G.

"terri" <support@thetabletpc.net> wrote in message
news:eeG93$JTEHA.3332@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Michael, I can't speak to the M1400 since I haven't had that much time

with
> it, but I have both an M1200 and the M1300 and I've had no problems with
> wi-fi. I'm not sure what the problems PCMag are seeing, but I'll take a
> look at the article.
>
> The array mic and the viewing angle on the M1400 are way above the norm

for
> Tablets.
>
> Interesting aside - the G8 conference for world leaders will be using
> Motions. I have the full story on my news page along with another Motion
> announcement about its CEO.
>
> --
> Terri Stratton
> Microsoft Windows MVP / Tablet PC
> http://thetabletpc.net
> Expert Zone - http://microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/default.asp
>
>
> "Michael Gerbasio" <mwgerbasio********.com> wrote in message
> news:O8YXsWJTEHA.1048@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > Terri,
> > I'm this close || to buying the M1400. My biggest concern is the wi-fi.
> > PCMag has give the M1400 a pretty poor rating when it comes to wi-fi

range
> > and throughput. Right now I'm using a Thinkpad X31 and I'd hate to take

a
> > step backwards with wi-fi since I use it all the time. Otherwise the
> > PCMag
> > review says this is the one to buy.
> >
> > I'd also would like the view anywhere screen on the M1400 but the wider
> > viewing angle on the current screen isn't a bad tradeoff.
> >
> > Regards-Michael G.
> >
> >

>



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Old 06-07-2004, 03:27 PM
Josh Einstein
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Re: Choosing Between Motion 1400 and Motion 1300

Check out the Electrovaya. That's the one I went with (was deciding between
that or Motion). The "show stopper" for me was that Motion didn't even
acknowledge my emails. But I found the Electrovaya to be a better
investment. Well... I shouldn't speak too soon because it hasn't arrived
yet. But from the various features and selling points, it appears to be.

Electrovaya has a return policy too. But there's a restocking fee. But you
won't find anyone that will take an open Tablet PC without a restocking fee.

--
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Einstein Technologies
--------------------------------------------------------
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http://www.einsteinware.com


"Michael Gerbasio" <mwgerbasio********.com> wrote in message
news:#jbawPKTEHA.3768@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Terri,
> After reading Debbie's and your comments, I went to the Motion site and

was
> ready to purchase. Unfortunately, looking at the terms of sale, they

don't
> allow for a refund. That for me is a show stopper; too much money to

invest
> for hardware that just might not work for me. I'd be buying site unseen so
> there is no way to judge the quality or knowing how well tabletpc software
> fits my needs.
>
> I doubt I'd return the tabletpc from the reading I've done, but for
> something I haven't had a chance to even try, $2.5k is too much money. I'm
> not interested in a convertible like the Toshiba since it is too heavy,

kind
> of defeats the purpose of a tabletpc. Guess I'll wait for HP to improve

the
> 1100 with a larger screen and stick with my Thinkpad X31 for now. Thanks.
>
> Regards-Michael G.
>
> "terri" <support@thetabletpc.net> wrote in message
> news:eeG93$JTEHA.3332@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > Michael, I can't speak to the M1400 since I haven't had that much time

> with
> > it, but I have both an M1200 and the M1300 and I've had no problems with
> > wi-fi. I'm not sure what the problems PCMag are seeing, but I'll take a
> > look at the article.
> >
> > The array mic and the viewing angle on the M1400 are way above the norm

> for
> > Tablets.
> >
> > Interesting aside - the G8 conference for world leaders will be using
> > Motions. I have the full story on my news page along with another

Motion
> > announcement about its CEO.
> >
> > --
> > Terri Stratton
> > Microsoft Windows MVP / Tablet PC
> > http://thetabletpc.net
> > Expert Zone - http://microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/default.asp
> >
> >
> > "Michael Gerbasio" <mwgerbasio********.com> wrote in message
> > news:O8YXsWJTEHA.1048@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > Terri,
> > > I'm this close || to buying the M1400. My biggest concern is the

wi-fi.
> > > PCMag has give the M1400 a pretty poor rating when it comes to wi-fi

> range
> > > and throughput. Right now I'm using a Thinkpad X31 and I'd hate to

take
> a
> > > step backwards with wi-fi since I use it all the time. Otherwise the
> > > PCMag
> > > review says this is the one to buy.
> > >
> > > I'd also would like the view anywhere screen on the M1400 but the

wider
> > > viewing angle on the current screen isn't a bad tradeoff.
> > >
> > > Regards-Michael G.
> > >
> > >

> >

>
>



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Old 06-07-2004, 03:27 PM
Terri K. Schurter
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Re: Choosing Between Motion 1400 and Motion 1300

Terri,

Thanks for this response. This gives me a good reason to wait. (The
operating system isn't a good reason to wait, as has been pointed
out.) I would really like to have the view anywhere screen with the
1400, so I will wait and see what comes to pass. In the meantime I
will keep reading the group and the sites and dream. Thanks again.

Terri

"terri" <support@thetabletpc.net> wrote in message news:<OwWoThCTEHA.808@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl>...
> Hi, Terri,
>
> Depending on when you plan to actually making the purchase, there may be a
> M1400 with ViewAnywhere.
>
> I've used both, and there's no question that the ViewAnywhere is better in
> bright light and outdoors. The M1400, on the other hand, gives a much wider
> viewing angle. This can be a plus when the screen isn't at the perfect
> angle, but can be a problem if you're working on something you'd prefer
> someone next to you not see.
>
> --
> Terri Stratton
> Microsoft Windows MVP / Tablet PC
> http://thetabletpc.net
> Expert Zone - http://microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/default.asp
>
>
> "Terri K. Schurter" <goddess@wingsgoclub.org> wrote in message
> news:6578dd39.0406061620.7a0515f0@posting.google.c om...
> >I have decided on a Motion tablet when I finally make my tablet
> > purchase. I might wait until the new operating system is out.
> >
> > I was pleased when Motion came out with a new model, but I wonder why
> > they do not offer the "view anywhere" screen on the 1400. I don't
> > anticipate using the slate outdoors, but I will be using it under
> > floresent light in my classroom. I have noticed that my desktop LCD
> > is easily viewable under the classroom lighting. (I am the teacher)
> > But I have noticed that my laptop screen is not as crisp as the
> > desktop under the floresent lighting. I am wondering if the slate
> > screen will also suffer in the floresent lighting, and if the "view
> > anywhere" screen is the answer. I also think I might want to use the
> > slate in the passenger seat of the car while on drives with my
> > husband.
> >
> > Should I just get the 1300 with the view anywhere screen? Or am I
> > missing something special by not getting the 1400?
> >
> > Terri

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Old 06-07-2004, 03:27 PM
terri
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Re: Choosing Between Motion 1400 and Motion 1300

Michael, have you checked with any third party vendors such as
Infocater.com?

--
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Microsoft Windows MVP / Tablet PC
http://thetabletpc.net
Expert Zone - http://microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/default.asp


"Michael Gerbasio" <mwgerbasio********.com> wrote in message
news:%23jbawPKTEHA.3768@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Terri,
> After reading Debbie's and your comments, I went to the Motion site and
> was
> ready to purchase. Unfortunately, looking at the terms of sale, they
> don't
> allow for a refund. That for me is a show stopper; too much money to
> invest
> for hardware that just might not work for me. I'd be buying site unseen so
> there is no way to judge the quality or knowing how well tabletpc software
> fits my needs.
>
> I doubt I'd return the tabletpc from the reading I've done, but for
> something I haven't had a chance to even try, $2.5k is too much money. I'm
> not interested in a convertible like the Toshiba since it is too heavy,
> kind
> of defeats the purpose of a tabletpc. Guess I'll wait for HP to improve
> the
> 1100 with a larger screen and stick with my Thinkpad X31 for now. Thanks.
>
> Regards-Michael G.
>
> "terri" <support@thetabletpc.net> wrote in message
> news:eeG93$JTEHA.3332@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> Michael, I can't speak to the M1400 since I haven't had that much time

> with
>> it, but I have both an M1200 and the M1300 and I've had no problems with
>> wi-fi. I'm not sure what the problems PCMag are seeing, but I'll take a
>> look at the article.
>>
>> The array mic and the viewing angle on the M1400 are way above the norm

> for
>> Tablets.
>>
>> Interesting aside - the G8 conference for world leaders will be using
>> Motions. I have the full story on my news page along with another Motion
>> announcement about its CEO.
>>
>> --
>> Terri Stratton
>> Microsoft Windows MVP / Tablet PC
>> http://thetabletpc.net
>> Expert Zone - http://microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/default.asp
>>
>>
>> "Michael Gerbasio" <mwgerbasio********.com> wrote in message
>> news:O8YXsWJTEHA.1048@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> > Terri,
>> > I'm this close || to buying the M1400. My biggest concern is the
>> > wi-fi.
>> > PCMag has give the M1400 a pretty poor rating when it comes to wi-fi

> range
>> > and throughput. Right now I'm using a Thinkpad X31 and I'd hate to
>> > take

> a
>> > step backwards with wi-fi since I use it all the time. Otherwise the
>> > PCMag
>> > review says this is the one to buy.
>> >
>> > I'd also would like the view anywhere screen on the M1400 but the wider
>> > viewing angle on the current screen isn't a bad tradeoff.
>> >
>> > Regards-Michael G.
>> >
>> >

>>

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