While visiting my local Sam's Club yesterday, I saw an HP 1327cl for $997. It had 2GB RAM, an AMD64 X2 CPU, 160GB hard drive, and a 12.1" touchscreen. Other than using Vista Home Premium (I'd rather have Business or Ultimate), what's the collective opinion about this unit. Here's the link to the Specs on HP's site:
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/g...reg_R1002_USEN

It says that the unit has a 12.1" WXGA High-Definition HP BrightView Widescreen Touch-screen Display (1280 x 800). My biggest question is about the screen: Can I write on it and have my handwriting translated? Is this an active or passive digitizer? I want to use OneNote extensively, Outlook, Business Contact Manager, and other business oriented apps. I'm not an artist and don't care about formatting notes as much as being able to write notes during a meeting and have them translated to text.

What do you think?

Thanks for your support,
Lon

__________________________________________________ _________
Lon Orenstein
pinpointtools, llc
Lon@pinpointtools.com
Author of Outlook 2007 Business Contact Manager For Dummies
Author of the eBook: Moving from ACT! to Business Contact Manager
www.pinpointtools.com

Looked like a pretty good deal, and I have been looking for a smaller tablet than my monstrous Toshiba. Went and bought one at the local Sams. How's that for an impulse buy. It is a passive digitizer, you do need to touch the screen for it to register. Not as slick feeling as my Motion or the Toshiba, but I don't do that much writing on the things. I normally just navigate and select, with a little input. This seems a little more like writing with a roller ball with thick ink, than a pencil on glass. Yes it recognizes handwriting. That's what tablets do. Mostly though you write in a box and that is translated into the application you are using. Check out the Tablet stuff on MS site to see what it is like. In some programs (OneNote, e.g.) you can just handwrite and it will stay as ink, but in OneNote it recognizes in the background so you can search handwritten text.

Screen is about 6.75x10" so could get pretty much a standard page on it in portrait.

Seems pretty snappy. WiFi working well around the house. Cute little remote, though I haven't really tried it. Stores in the Express Card slot. The 2G of RAM is a plus. It will support four, but you would need to replace both 1G modules to up it. Good bright screen.

I do wish OEMs would just load the OS and drivers and give you a DVD with all the other crap, that you can select what you do and don't want loaded. This as the usual pile of stuff, ISP offers, anti-virus pre-loads, trial stuff, that takes hours, sometimes days to get rid of.

I'm currently cutting the Restore DVDs. It has a restore partition, but I like to have it on media. Lots of nice little features on it. Lights indicating what's happening are blue or orange, orange for off, like the WiFi or the speaker. It has a little touchpad off switch that I know touch typists would appreciate. Know lots of folks whose thumbs hit the touch pad, and lord knows where the cursor winds up. Built in camera, mics on the screen, fingerprint reader. Might have been nice if it had BT and/or a tuner, but you can add that for $100, if you want it.

Battery sticks out in the back, so I'm not sure if this comes with an extended battery, and there is a smaller one, or if this is just how it is. Little flyer lists three battery sizes, but I haven't looked to see what they are like.

It has the nice, watch a DVD without booting up feature. Dual headset jacks, support for a good number of media cards. I think I'm going to be pretty happy with it.

--
Sven
MS MVP Mobile Devices
"Lon Orenstein" <Lon@pinpointtools.com> wrote in message news:0B2401A3-D55E-47F2-ADB7-C9A94D6F9E73@microsoft.com...
While visiting my local Sam's Club yesterday, I saw an HP 1327cl for $997. It had 2GB RAM, an AMD64 X2 CPU, 160GB hard drive, and a 12.1" touchscreen. Other than using Vista Home Premium (I'd rather have Business or Ultimate), what's the collective opinion about this unit. Here's the link to the Specs on HP's site:
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/g...reg_R1002_USEN

It says that the unit has a 12.1" WXGA High-Definition HP BrightView Widescreen Touch-screen Display (1280 x 800). My biggest question is about the screen: Can I write on it and have my handwriting translated? Is this an active or passive digitizer? I want to use OneNote extensively, Outlook, Business Contact Manager, and other business oriented apps. I'm not an artist and don't care about formatting notes as much as being able to write notes during a meeting and have them translated to text.

What do you think?

Thanks for your support,
Lon

__________________________________________________ _________
Lon Orenstein
pinpointtools, llc
Lon@pinpointtools.com
Author of Outlook 2007 Business Contact Manager For Dummies
Author of the eBook: Moving from ACT! to Business Contact Manager
www.pinpointtools.com

If writing is your main concern then avoid passive digitizers. You can't beat a Wacom active digitizer. Check out the models Gateway has. There are some heavier ones for under $1000 and all of their tablets now use Wacom digitizers.

My use case is very similar to yours and I am very happy with the HP 2710p but that's gonna run you about $1800.

--
Josh Einstein (Tablet PC MVP)
Einstein Technologies
Tablet Enhancements for Outlook - Try it free: www.tabletoutlook.com

"Lon Orenstein" <Lon@pinpointtools.com> wrote in message news:0B2401A3-D55E-47F2-ADB7-C9A94D6F9E73@microsoft.com...
While visiting my local Sam's Club yesterday, I saw an HP 1327cl for $997. It had 2GB RAM, an AMD64 X2 CPU, 160GB hard drive, and a 12.1" touchscreen. Other than using Vista Home Premium (I'd rather have Business or Ultimate), what's the collective opinion about this unit. Here's the link to the Specs on HP's site:
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/g...reg_R1002_USEN

It says that the unit has a 12.1" WXGA High-Definition HP BrightView Widescreen Touch-screen Display (1280 x 800). My biggest question is about the screen: Can I write on it and have my handwriting translated? Is this an active or passive digitizer? I want to use OneNote extensively, Outlook, Business Contact Manager, and other business oriented apps. I'm not an artist and don't care about formatting notes as much as being able to write notes during a meeting and have them translated to text.

What do you think?

Thanks for your support,
Lon

__________________________________________________ _________
Lon Orenstein
pinpointtools, llc
Lon@pinpointtools.com
Author of Outlook 2007 Business Contact Manager For Dummies
Author of the eBook: Moving from ACT! to Business Contact Manager
www.pinpointtools.com

>> If writing is your main concern then avoid passive digitizers. <<

To expand on Josh's caution, there are a couple of issues on "touch" vs
active digitizers...

The first is that when writing on a touch screen, you can't allow
anything other than the stylus (such as the heel of your hand) to touch
the screen or it will register... with a pen digitizer, it responds only
to the stylus tip.

There is also a consensus that the active digitizers are more
accurate... don't have the experience to confirm that.

Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]

Yeah it's hard to explain. As someone that has used both touchscreen and
active (Finepoint and Wacom) I can honestly say nothing beats the "feel" of
a Wacom-based tablet. Tracy Hooten put it best when she described her return
to Wacom as "like writing on a cloud". I don't know how else to describe it.
Demand Wacom.

--
Josh Einstein (Tablet PC MVP)
Einstein Technologies
Tablet Enhancements for Outlook - Try it free: www.tabletoutlook.com


"Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev]" <BevNoSpamBevHoward.com> wrote in
message news:eyDi7W3DIHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >> If writing is your main concern then avoid passive digitizers. <<
>
> To expand on Josh's caution, there are a couple of issues on "touch" vs
> active digitizers...
>
> The first is that when writing on a touch screen, you can't allow anything
> other than the stylus (such as the heel of your hand) to touch the screen
> or it will register... with a pen digitizer, it responds only to the
> stylus tip.
>
> There is also a consensus that the active digitizers are more accurate...
> don't have the experience to confirm that.
>
> Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]
>

Thanks to you all for the input (pun intended...).

What I REALLY want is portable Nirvana -- a small screen and form factor,
with big power, long battery life, and enough of a keyboard for my chubby
little fingers to type away! Having been keyboard-centric for so long
(software and website development, email, and writing), I want to replace my
Pocket PC and laptop with a PC running Vista, that's easy to carry in a
shoulder bag, and can power up quickly enough to enter a task or note into
Outlook or OneNote when I remember something I should have done. I'm really
not sure how much active digitizing I'll do -- I've become a master at
taking notes with a laptop in meetings and still maintaining eye contact
with people.

Beverly, when you mentioned a pen digitizer, did you mean that ALL active
digitizers use one or you could get a pen digitizer that works on a passive
screen and improves the writing?

Thanks again, folks!

Lon

__________________________________________________ _________
Lon Orenstein
pinpointtools, llc
Lon@pinpointtools.com
Author of Outlook 2007 Business Contact Manager For Dummies
Author of the eBook: Moving from ACT! to Business Contact Manager
www.pinpointtools.com



"Josh Einstein" <josh@einsteintech.net> wrote in message
news:30E1B3B1-3EEC-46F4-8CA1-29B905F97C89@microsoft.com...
> Yeah it's hard to explain. As someone that has used both touchscreen and
> active (Finepoint and Wacom) I can honestly say nothing beats the "feel"
> of a Wacom-based tablet. Tracy Hooten put it best when she described her
> return to Wacom as "like writing on a cloud". I don't know how else to
> describe it. Demand Wacom.
>
> --
> Josh Einstein (Tablet PC MVP)
> Einstein Technologies
> Tablet Enhancements for Outlook - Try it free: www.tabletoutlook.com
>
>
> "Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev]" <BevNoSpamBevHoward.com> wrote in
> message news:eyDi7W3DIHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> >> If writing is your main concern then avoid passive digitizers. <<
>>
>> To expand on Josh's caution, there are a couple of issues on "touch" vs
>> active digitizers...
>>
>> The first is that when writing on a touch screen, you can't allow
>> anything other than the stylus (such as the heel of your hand) to touch
>> the screen or it will register... with a pen digitizer, it responds only
>> to the stylus tip.
>>
>> There is also a consensus that the active digitizers are more accurate...
>> don't have the experience to confirm that.
>>
>> Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]
>>
>

>> Beverly, when you mentioned a pen digitizer <<

I may have the terms wrong, but what I am trying to describe is the
difference between a screen that responds to physical touch with a
stylus or any other object such as a finger, toothpick, etc (touch
screen) or one that responds only to the presence of a dedicated stylus
and ignores other objects (such as wacom.)

Josh and I differ on this, but with almost a decade of ppc use, I
actually prefer touch on a small screen because it allows alternate
input... for example, using fingers instead of fishing out the stylus,
that plus the cost of the wacom stylus replacements. If the device you
are looking at is small enough to keep your hand off of the screen,
imho, one of the major issues is addressed.

While your goal is to replace the ppc with a full windows system, I'm
not there yet and still exploiting the ppc as my primary personal device
with the pc as my work device ;-)

Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]

I gotta say that I'm really loving the HP 2710p that I bought a month or two
ago. It's not the fastest machine in the world, but my primary pc is a quad
core desktop which makes anything else pale in comparison anyway.

But it's about 3 and a half pounds, very thin, beautiful design, long
battery life (even with the standard but they have a slice that goes almost
all day) and an integrated camera. The keyboard feels very nice on this and
the screen is even with the bezel so there is no raised bezel around the
screen which adds so much to the writing experience. It's also a 12"
widescreen so it's pretty tiny compared to most laptops. But as you probably
know, the smaller the device, the worse the writing experience. 12" seems to
be the "sweet spot" that manufacturers have settled on. Small enough to be
ultra portable and not so small that the writing experience or laptop
experience suffers. Also smaller devices usually have shorter battery life
because they do just as much but the battery has to be half the size.

Where are you from? You should go on the forums at www.gottabemobile.com and
see if any nearby members would be willing to meet up and let you try some
out. Also John Hill over at www.alltp.com has a try before you buy program
where you can actually test drive a tablet before committing to buying it.

--
Josh Einstein (Tablet PC MVP)
Einstein Technologies
Tablet Enhancements for Outlook - Try it free: www.tabletoutlook.com


"Lon Orenstein" <Lon@pinpointtools.com> wrote in message
news:54250C42-C784-4DD7-9163-9DFF07EA7502@microsoft.com...
> Thanks to you all for the input (pun intended...).
>
> What I REALLY want is portable Nirvana -- a small screen and form factor,
> with big power, long battery life, and enough of a keyboard for my chubby
> little fingers to type away! Having been keyboard-centric for so long
> (software and website development, email, and writing), I want to replace
> my Pocket PC and laptop with a PC running Vista, that's easy to carry in a
> shoulder bag, and can power up quickly enough to enter a task or note into
> Outlook or OneNote when I remember something I should have done. I'm
> really not sure how much active digitizing I'll do -- I've become a master
> at taking notes with a laptop in meetings and still maintaining eye
> contact with people.
>
> Beverly, when you mentioned a pen digitizer, did you mean that ALL active
> digitizers use one or you could get a pen digitizer that works on a
> passive screen and improves the writing?
>
> Thanks again, folks!
>
> Lon
>
> __________________________________________________ _________
> Lon Orenstein
> pinpointtools, llc
> Lon@pinpointtools.com
> Author of Outlook 2007 Business Contact Manager For Dummies
> Author of the eBook: Moving from ACT! to Business Contact Manager
> www.pinpointtools.com
>
>
>
> "Josh Einstein" <josh@einsteintech.net> wrote in message
> news:30E1B3B1-3EEC-46F4-8CA1-29B905F97C89@microsoft.com...
>> Yeah it's hard to explain. As someone that has used both touchscreen and
>> active (Finepoint and Wacom) I can honestly say nothing beats the "feel"
>> of a Wacom-based tablet. Tracy Hooten put it best when she described her
>> return to Wacom as "like writing on a cloud". I don't know how else to
>> describe it. Demand Wacom.
>>
>> --
>> Josh Einstein (Tablet PC MVP)
>> Einstein Technologies
>> Tablet Enhancements for Outlook - Try it free: www.tabletoutlook.com
>>
>>
>> "Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev]" <BevNoSpamBevHoward.com> wrote in
>> message news:eyDi7W3DIHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> >> If writing is your main concern then avoid passive digitizers. <<
>>>
>>> To expand on Josh's caution, there are a couple of issues on "touch" vs
>>> active digitizers...
>>>
>>> The first is that when writing on a touch screen, you can't allow
>>> anything other than the stylus (such as the heel of your hand) to touch
>>> the screen or it will register... with a pen digitizer, it responds only
>>> to the stylus tip.
>>>
>>> There is also a consensus that the active digitizers are more
>>> accurate... don't have the experience to confirm that.
>>>
>>> Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]
>>>
>>
>

I think that piece is going to cause you some difficulty. You can enter
quick notes into a PPC as you already know, but I don't believe that they
have yet really come up with a full windows machine, that boots fast enough
to answer that need. You'd need one with the OS in flash (ROM), like the
PPCs are.

My guess is that the closest thing might be HTC's Shift.
http://www.htc.com/product/03-product_htcshift.htm I don't recall from the
various videos floating around if you can write on the "PPC" side of the
device. You might also look into the UMPC genre. I recall that they were
touted as potentially having instant on features, but I don't recall if any
of them actually are being made that way. have a gut feel that feature
would drive the cost way up.

One thing I liked about the HP you started this with was the price to size
ratio. That seems to be inverse on portables. This was reasonably small at a
reasonable price. Wouldn't take a huge shoulder bag, but it doesn't boot any
faster than any other Vista (or other MS OS) laptop.

Just for clarity, this is a passive screen, meaning you have to actually
touch the screen, for it to react. It does however seem to understand the
difference between a point and a palm. I can rest my hand on the screen and
still write with the stylus, without it getting confused. I can however,
with a little pressure, have it register my fingernail, if I just want to
select something or drag an elevator bar. Probably shouldn't do that, just
like on a PPC, but you know we all do.

--
Sven
MS MVP Mobile Devices
"Lon Orenstein" <Lon@pinpointtools.com> wrote in message
news:54250C42-C784-4DD7-9163-9DFF07EA7502@microsoft.com...

>and can power up quickly enough to enter a task or note into Outlook or
>OneNote when I remember something I should have done.

Thanks again to you all -- I appreciate the advice!

Sven: I now have HTC Shift envy! That may be the winner. I saw Fujitsu's
U810 but haven't been able to type on it or try to see the text on the
screen. That screen is 5.6" which may be too small. The Shift has a 7"
screen which may be the next sweet spot, below the 12" that Josh mentioned.
That's the UMPC standard, right? I'm glad to hear you say that the screen
on the HP 1327 allows your palm to touch and not activate anything -- that
helps!

My goal in this is to get rid of the PocketPC limitations and move the
advantages into a Vista-based device. As a background, I had a Newton, a
Windows CE 1.0 Phillips, one of the first iPAQ's and Axims, and my all time
favorite, the Compaq Aero. I write on PPC screens and am pretty good at it
but it's limiting. I need to type and thumbs were made for holding on to
branches. I believe that the next wave of computing is based around
TabletPC interfaces (that run real Windows) and keyboards just big enough to
be able to type comfortably, without crushing the PC when the airplane seat
in front of you comes down for a nap. The key factor here is the bootup
time and I'm "hoping" that sleep/hibernation mode will solve that (plus an
extra power charger at home so I don't have to carry one around, except when
I travel).

For me (and I believe the great unwashed out there...), the problem is data.
People want their data with them and to be able to synchronize it without 37
steps. Exchange goes a long way towards solving this, coupled with WiFi and
Outlook Web Access and an OST file, and OneNote is perfect for unstructured
data. Add in a Bluetooth headset and a VoIP softphone, and you are on your
way to not having a cellphone. So, that's where I'm trying to go...

Thanks again... I'm off to hunt the HTC Shift and see what it's like... I
may still get the HP at Sam's Club in the meantime.

Lon

__________________________________________________ _________
Lon Orenstein
pinpointtools, llc
Lon@pinpointtools.com
Author of Outlook 2007 Business Contact Manager For Dummies
Author of the eBook: Moving from ACT! to Business Contact Manager
www.pinpointtools.com



"Sven" <sejohannsen********.com> wrote in message
news:56425C51-DC63-40A1-AFB4-9F143938EE62@microsoft.com...
>I think that piece is going to cause you some difficulty. You can enter
>quick notes into a PPC as you already know, but I don't believe that they
>have yet really come up with a full windows machine, that boots fast enough
>to answer that need. You'd need one with the OS in flash (ROM), like the
>PPCs are.
>
> My guess is that the closest thing might be HTC's Shift.
> http://www.htc.com/product/03-product_htcshift.htm I don't recall from
> the various videos floating around if you can write on the "PPC" side of
> the device. You might also look into the UMPC genre. I recall that they
> were touted as potentially having instant on features, but I don't recall
> if any of them actually are being made that way. have a gut feel that
> feature would drive the cost way up.
>
> One thing I liked about the HP you started this with was the price to size
> ratio. That seems to be inverse on portables. This was reasonably small at
> a reasonable price. Wouldn't take a huge shoulder bag, but it doesn't boot
> any faster than any other Vista (or other MS OS) laptop.
>
> Just for clarity, this is a passive screen, meaning you have to actually
> touch the screen, for it to react. It does however seem to understand the
> difference between a point and a palm. I can rest my hand on the screen
> and still write with the stylus, without it getting confused. I can
> however, with a little pressure, have it register my fingernail, if I just
> want to select something or drag an elevator bar. Probably shouldn't do
> that, just like on a PPC, but you know we all do.
>
> --
> Sven
> MS MVP Mobile Devices
> "Lon Orenstein" <Lon@pinpointtools.com> wrote in message
> news:54250C42-C784-4DD7-9163-9DFF07EA7502@microsoft.com...
>
>>and can power up quickly enough to enter a task or note into Outlook or
>>OneNote when I remember something I should have done.
>

Couple of leads

http://www.theunwired.net/?item=phot...ows-vista-umpc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwjJXFxP_6Q

http://ubertablet.blogspot.com/2007/...htc-shift.html Download
the video on this one


--
Sven
MS MVP Mobile Devices
"Lon Orenstein" <Lon@pinpointtools.com> wrote in message
news:25E15F1A-7218-41CB-B284-B269A9CFED05@microsoft.com...
> Thanks again... I'm off to hunt the HTC Shift and see what it's like... I
> may still get the HP at Sam's Club in the meantime.
>
> Lon

I just saw it today in Sam's too. It appears that it is just a special
customized version of the tx1000z. The tx100z can be further customized.
Check out the tx100z on HP's site.
I am highly considering it in lieu of a Toughbook CF30 that I have to give
back to my job due to retirement. I'm hooked on a touchscreen; however these
Toughbooks, are bulky, heavy, and expensive.
"Lon Orenstein" wrote:

> While visiting my local Sam's Club yesterday, I saw an HP 1327cl for $997.
> It had 2GB RAM, an AMD64 X2 CPU, 160GB hard drive, and a 12.1"
> touchscreen. Other than using Vista Home Premium (I'd rather have
> Business or Ultimate), what's the collective opinion about this unit.
> Here's the link to the Specs on HP's site:
> http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/g...01160968&cc=us
> &dlc=en&lc=en&jumpid=reg_R1002_USEN
>
> It says that the unit has a 12.1" WXGA High-Definition HP BrightView
> Widescreen Touch-screen Display (1280 x 800). My biggest question is
> about the screen: Can I write on it and have my handwriting translated?
> Is this an active or passive digitizer? I want to use OneNote
> extensively, Outlook, Business Contact Manager, and other business
> oriented apps. I'm not an artist and don't care about formatting notes as
> much as being able to write notes during a meeting and have them
> translated to text.
>
> What do you think?
>
> Thanks for your support,
> Lon
>
> __________________________________________________ _________
> Lon Orenstein
> pinpointtools, llc
> Lon@pinpointtools.com
> Author of Outlook 2007 Business Contact Manager For Dummies
> Author of the eBook: Moving from ACT! to Business Contact Manager
> www.pinpointtools.com
>
>
>

Some of those AMD tablets are really "touchscreens" they do not have
the same Wacom digitizer as a real tablet...i.e. you can use anything
to interact with the screen.

On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 20:34:01 -0700, Paul
<Paul@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>I just saw it today in Sam's too. It appears that it is just a special
>customized version of the tx1000z. The tx100z can be further customized.
>Check out the tx100z on HP's site.
>I am highly considering it in lieu of a Toughbook CF30 that I have to give
>back to my job due to retirement. I'm hooked on a touchscreen; however these
>Toughbooks, are bulky, heavy, and expensive.
>"Lon Orenstein" wrote:
>
>> While visiting my local Sam's Club yesterday, I saw an HP 1327cl for $997.
>> It had 2GB RAM, an AMD64 X2 CPU, 160GB hard drive, and a 12.1"
>> touchscreen. Other than using Vista Home Premium (I'd rather have
>> Business or Ultimate), what's the collective opinion about this unit.
>> Here's the link to the Specs on HP's site:
>> http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/g...01160968&cc=us
>> &dlc=en&lc=en&jumpid=reg_R1002_USEN
>>
>> It says that the unit has a 12.1" WXGA High-Definition HP BrightView
>> Widescreen Touch-screen Display (1280 x 800). My biggest question is
>> about the screen: Can I write on it and have my handwriting translated?
>> Is this an active or passive digitizer? I want to use OneNote
>> extensively, Outlook, Business Contact Manager, and other business
>> oriented apps. I'm not an artist and don't care about formatting notes as
>> much as being able to write notes during a meeting and have them
>> translated to text.
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>> Thanks for your support,
>> Lon
>>
>> __________________________________________________ _________
>> Lon Orenstein
>> pinpointtools, llc
>> Lon@pinpointtools.com
>> Author of Outlook 2007 Business Contact Manager For Dummies
>> Author of the eBook: Moving from ACT! to Business Contact Manager
>> www.pinpointtools.com
>>
>>
>>

--
Cheers,
Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
http://vpc.essjae.com/
I do not work for Microsoft.

Including your palm by accident while you're trying to write. LOL.

:-) Sorry I know I beat on touchscreens a lot...

--
Josh Einstein (Tablet PC MVP)
Einstein Technologies
Tablet Enhancements for Outlook - Try it free: www.tabletoutlook.com


"Steve Jain" <noreply.-@-.essjae.com> wrote in message
news:per7j3l5blqgbjfnunph26nobjvck2tpgk@4ax.com...
> Some of those AMD tablets are really "touchscreens" they do not have
> the same Wacom digitizer as a real tablet...i.e. you can use anything
> to interact with the screen.
>
> On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 20:34:01 -0700, Paul
> <Paul@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>>I just saw it today in Sam's too. It appears that it is just a special
>>customized version of the tx1000z. The tx100z can be further customized.
>>Check out the tx100z on HP's site.
>>I am highly considering it in lieu of a Toughbook CF30 that I have to give
>>back to my job due to retirement. I'm hooked on a touchscreen; however
>>these
>>Toughbooks, are bulky, heavy, and expensive.
>>"Lon Orenstein" wrote:
>>
>>> While visiting my local Sam's Club yesterday, I saw an HP 1327cl for
>>> $997.
>>> It had 2GB RAM, an AMD64 X2 CPU, 160GB hard drive, and a 12.1"
>>> touchscreen. Other than using Vista Home Premium (I'd rather have
>>> Business or Ultimate), what's the collective opinion about this unit.
>>> Here's the link to the Specs on HP's site:
>>> http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/g...01160968&cc=us
>>> &dlc=en&lc=en&jumpid=reg_R1002_USEN
>>>
>>> It says that the unit has a 12.1" WXGA High-Definition HP BrightView
>>> Widescreen Touch-screen Display (1280 x 800). My biggest question is
>>> about the screen: Can I write on it and have my handwriting translated?
>>> Is this an active or passive digitizer? I want to use OneNote
>>> extensively, Outlook, Business Contact Manager, and other business
>>> oriented apps. I'm not an artist and don't care about formatting notes
>>> as
>>> much as being able to write notes during a meeting and have them
>>> translated to text.
>>>
>>> What do you think?
>>>
>>> Thanks for your support,
>>> Lon
>>>
>>> __________________________________________________ _________
>>> Lon Orenstein
>>> pinpointtools, llc
>>> Lon@pinpointtools.com
>>> Author of Outlook 2007 Business Contact Manager For Dummies
>>> Author of the eBook: Moving from ACT! to Business Contact Manager
>>> www.pinpointtools.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
> http://vpc.essjae.com/
> I do not work for Microsoft.

On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 18:16:33 -0500, "Josh Einstein"
<josh@einsteintech.net> wrote:

>Including your palm by accident while you're trying to write. LOL.
>
>:-) Sorry I know I beat on touchscreens a lot...

and you can't flip the stylus and erase

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Cheers,
Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
http://vpc.essjae.com/
I do not work for Microsoft.