I have the same issue as Mr. Hilk. I also tried the PowerToy and i agree it is not what he and I (and probably many other users who havent found this webstie) are looking for.

Perhaps it would be helpful to add some additional specificity to Mr. Hilk's question:

I use the tablet as my primary PC at work. It is attached to a regular keyboard, mouse and monitor. When i am at work, i use the regular keyboard, mouse and monitor just like a regular PC. The regular monitor is set up as my primary monitor and the tablet monitor is set up as the second monitor. Under "Display Properties", "Settings", the "Display" drop-down menu is set to "1. (Multiple Monitors) on Intel(R) 82830M Graphics-Controller-0". The primary screen (my desktop screen) is set to 1400x1050 resolution. The secondary screen (my tablet screen) is set to 1024x768. On the primary screen, both check boxes are gray under "Use this device as the primary monitor" and "Extend my Windows desktop onto this monitor." On the secondary screen, the "Use this device as the primary monitor" is unchecked and the "Extend my Windows desktop onto this monitor" is checked.

I believe that this is what you were referring to when you said to use the extended desktop feature. It would be very inconvenient for me to use the tablet screen as the primary monitor since it is off to the side of my desk and i dont really ever look at that screen. if the tablet were my primary monitor then my start menu would appear over there and all the applications would launch over there -- not really very useful in my situation.

With this configuration, when i point the tablet pen to the tablet display, the mouse movements appear on my primary display (i.e. the desktop monitor). This is basically useless since i already have a mouse that works perfectly well for pointing to things on my desktop monitor.

I typically open up Windows Journal when i come in in the morning, move it to the tablet display, and leave it open while i work. I would like to be able to take notes with the pen on my Windows Journal during the day. However, if i point the pen to the tablet screen the mouse movements appear on the primary desktop screen.

So the questions is: assuming i leave my screen configuration with the desktop monitor as my primary monitor, is there any way that i can use the tablet pen to write on the tablet screen?

----- Christian Hilk wrote: -----

Mason Jensen [MSFT] wrote:
> Alot of people have used the extended desktop for tablet powertoy to gain
> that functionality:

I think its not a solution for my problem. I will use a monitor as
primary desktop with a external mouse, and the tablet as secondary
desktop with the pen.

I already tested the Extended Desktop powertoy.

> This PowerToy will create a window on your Tablet PC that shows a
> duplicate image of the desktop on the external monitor. You can then
> manipulate the objects on the extended desktop within this window.

It´s a nice workaround, but no way to work productive with a external
monitor.

Christian

Hi, Tom, I'm pretty sure that the Tablet PC screens do not have the option
to be used as a second monitor. It can only be used as the main with a
second monitor. I know it's not what you (or many others) want to hear, but
for now, it needs to be used as the main monitor.

--
Terri Stratton
Microsoft Windows MVP / Tablet PC
http://thetabletpc.net
Expert Zone - http://microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/default.asp


"Tom Kaplan" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:812D4511-59D4-4A07-B718-3494C2633BB9@microsoft.com...
> I have the same issue as Mr. Hilk. I also tried the PowerToy and i agree
it is not what he and I (and probably many other users who havent found this
webstie) are looking for.
>
> Perhaps it would be helpful to add some additional specificity to Mr.
Hilk's question:
>
> I use the tablet as my primary PC at work. It is attached to a regular
keyboard, mouse and monitor. When i am at work, i use the regular keyboard,
mouse and monitor just like a regular PC. The regular monitor is set up as
my primary monitor and the tablet monitor is set up as the second monitor.
Under "Display Properties", "Settings", the "Display" drop-down menu is set
to "1. (Multiple Monitors) on Intel(R) 82830M Graphics-Controller-0". The
primary screen (my desktop screen) is set to 1400x1050 resolution. The
secondary screen (my tablet screen) is set to 1024x768. On the primary
screen, both check boxes are gray under "Use this device as the primary
monitor" and "Extend my Windows desktop onto this monitor." On the
secondary screen, the "Use this device as the primary monitor" is unchecked
and the "Extend my Windows desktop onto this monitor" is checked.
>
> I believe that this is what you were referring to when you said to use the
extended desktop feature. It would be very inconvenient for me to use the
tablet screen as the primary monitor since it is off to the side of my desk
and i dont really ever look at that screen. if the tablet were my primary
monitor then my start menu would appear over there and all the applications
would launch over there -- not really very useful in my situation.
>
> With this configuration, when i point the tablet pen to the tablet
display, the mouse movements appear on my primary display (i.e. the desktop
monitor). This is basically useless since i already have a mouse that works
perfectly well for pointing to things on my desktop monitor.
>
> I typically open up Windows Journal when i come in in the morning, move it
to the tablet display, and leave it open while i work. I would like to be
able to take notes with the pen on my Windows Journal during the day.
However, if i point the pen to the tablet screen the mouse movements appear
on the primary desktop screen.
>
> So the questions is: assuming i leave my screen configuration with the
desktop monitor as my primary monitor, is there any way that i can use the
tablet pen to write on the tablet screen?
>
> ----- Christian Hilk wrote: -----
>
> Mason Jensen [MSFT] wrote:
> > Alot of people have used the extended desktop for tablet powertoy
to gain
> > that functionality:
>
> I think its not a solution for my problem. I will use a monitor as
> primary desktop with a external mouse, and the tablet as secondary
> desktop with the pen.
>
> I already tested the Extended Desktop powertoy.
>
> > This PowerToy will create a window on your Tablet PC that shows a
> > duplicate image of the desktop on the external monitor. You can
then
> > manipulate the objects on the extended desktop within this window.
>
> It´s a nice workaround, but no way to work productive with a external
> monitor.
>
> Christian
>
>

what is the difference between "main" and secondary? isn´t an artificial
differentiation?

"terri" <support@thetabletpc.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:e2gcsmHLEHA.556@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Hi, Tom, I'm pretty sure that the Tablet PC screens do not have the option
> to be used as a second monitor. It can only be used as the main with a
> second monitor. I know it's not what you (or many others) want to hear,
but
> for now, it needs to be used as the main monitor.
>
> --
> Terri Stratton
> Microsoft Windows MVP / Tablet PC
> http://thetabletpc.net
> Expert Zone - http://microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/default.asp
>
>
> "Tom Kaplan" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:812D4511-59D4-4A07-B718-3494C2633BB9@microsoft.com...
> > I have the same issue as Mr. Hilk. I also tried the PowerToy and i
agree
> it is not what he and I (and probably many other users who havent found
this
> webstie) are looking for.
> >
> > Perhaps it would be helpful to add some additional specificity to Mr.
> Hilk's question:
> >
> > I use the tablet as my primary PC at work. It is attached to a regular
> keyboard, mouse and monitor. When i am at work, i use the regular
keyboard,
> mouse and monitor just like a regular PC. The regular monitor is set up
as
> my primary monitor and the tablet monitor is set up as the second monitor.
> Under "Display Properties", "Settings", the "Display" drop-down menu is
set
> to "1. (Multiple Monitors) on Intel(R) 82830M Graphics-Controller-0". The
> primary screen (my desktop screen) is set to 1400x1050 resolution. The
> secondary screen (my tablet screen) is set to 1024x768. On the primary
> screen, both check boxes are gray under "Use this device as the primary
> monitor" and "Extend my Windows desktop onto this monitor." On the
> secondary screen, the "Use this device as the primary monitor" is
unchecked
> and the "Extend my Windows desktop onto this monitor" is checked.
> >
> > I believe that this is what you were referring to when you said to use
the
> extended desktop feature. It would be very inconvenient for me to use the
> tablet screen as the primary monitor since it is off to the side of my
desk
> and i dont really ever look at that screen. if the tablet were my primary
> monitor then my start menu would appear over there and all the
applications
> would launch over there -- not really very useful in my situation.
> >
> > With this configuration, when i point the tablet pen to the tablet
> display, the mouse movements appear on my primary display (i.e. the
desktop
> monitor). This is basically useless since i already have a mouse that
works
> perfectly well for pointing to things on my desktop monitor.
> >
> > I typically open up Windows Journal when i come in in the morning, move
it
> to the tablet display, and leave it open while i work. I would like to be
> able to take notes with the pen on my Windows Journal during the day.
> However, if i point the pen to the tablet screen the mouse movements
appear
> on the primary desktop screen.
> >
> > So the questions is: assuming i leave my screen configuration with the
> desktop monitor as my primary monitor, is there any way that i can use the
> tablet pen to write on the tablet screen?
> >
> > ----- Christian Hilk wrote: -----
> >
> > Mason Jensen [MSFT] wrote:
> > > Alot of people have used the extended desktop for tablet powertoy
> to gain
> > > that functionality:
> >
> > I think its not a solution for my problem. I will use a monitor as
> > primary desktop with a external mouse, and the tablet as secondary
> > desktop with the pen.
> >
> > I already tested the Extended Desktop powertoy.
> >
> > > This PowerToy will create a window on your Tablet PC that shows
a
> > > duplicate image of the desktop on the external monitor. You can
> then
> > > manipulate the objects on the extended desktop within this
window.
> >
> > It´s a nice workaround, but no way to work productive with a
external
> > monitor.
> >
> > Christian
> >
> >
>

"Main" being the source computer - "Secondary" being an extended
monitor. So with a tablet PC you can plug in a second monitor and use
both with the tablet (with either being #1 or #2 - NOT what he was
referring to below) but you can't plug the tablet into a desktop or
another machine and have it's display be the "extended desktop"
monitor for the other computer.

John





On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 20:09:12 +0200, "www.MSmobiles.com"
<nospam@msmobiles.com> wrote:

>what is the difference between "main" and secondary? isn´t an artificial
>differentiation?
>
>"terri" <support@thetabletpc.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
>news:e2gcsmHLEHA.556@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> Hi, Tom, I'm pretty sure that the Tablet PC screens do not have the option
>> to be used as a second monitor. It can only be used as the main with a
>> second monitor. I know it's not what you (or many others) want to hear,
>but
>> for now, it needs to be used as the main monitor.
>>
>> --
>> Terri Stratton
>> Microsoft Windows MVP / Tablet PC
>> http://thetabletpc.net
>> Expert Zone - http://microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/default.asp
>>
>>
>> "Tom Kaplan" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:812D4511-59D4-4A07-B718-3494C2633BB9@microsoft.com...
>> > I have the same issue as Mr. Hilk. I also tried the PowerToy and i
>agree
>> it is not what he and I (and probably many other users who havent found
>this
>> webstie) are looking for.
>> >
>> > Perhaps it would be helpful to add some additional specificity to Mr.
>> Hilk's question:
>> >
>> > I use the tablet as my primary PC at work. It is attached to a regular
>> keyboard, mouse and monitor. When i am at work, i use the regular
>keyboard,
>> mouse and monitor just like a regular PC. The regular monitor is set up
>as
>> my primary monitor and the tablet monitor is set up as the second monitor.
>> Under "Display Properties", "Settings", the "Display" drop-down menu is
>set
>> to "1. (Multiple Monitors) on Intel(R) 82830M Graphics-Controller-0". The
>> primary screen (my desktop screen) is set to 1400x1050 resolution. The
>> secondary screen (my tablet screen) is set to 1024x768. On the primary
>> screen, both check boxes are gray under "Use this device as the primary
>> monitor" and "Extend my Windows desktop onto this monitor." On the
>> secondary screen, the "Use this device as the primary monitor" is
>unchecked
>> and the "Extend my Windows desktop onto this monitor" is checked.
>> >
>> > I believe that this is what you were referring to when you said to use
>the
>> extended desktop feature. It would be very inconvenient for me to use the
>> tablet screen as the primary monitor since it is off to the side of my
>desk
>> and i dont really ever look at that screen. if the tablet were my primary
>> monitor then my start menu would appear over there and all the
>applications
>> would launch over there -- not really very useful in my situation.
>> >
>> > With this configuration, when i point the tablet pen to the tablet
>> display, the mouse movements appear on my primary display (i.e. the
>desktop
>> monitor). This is basically useless since i already have a mouse that
>works
>> perfectly well for pointing to things on my desktop monitor.
>> >
>> > I typically open up Windows Journal when i come in in the morning, move
>it
>> to the tablet display, and leave it open while i work. I would like to be
>> able to take notes with the pen on my Windows Journal during the day.
>> However, if i point the pen to the tablet screen the mouse movements
>appear
>> on the primary desktop screen.
>> >
>> > So the questions is: assuming i leave my screen configuration with the
>> desktop monitor as my primary monitor, is there any way that i can use the
>> tablet pen to write on the tablet screen?
>> >
>> > ----- Christian Hilk wrote: -----
>> >
>> > Mason Jensen [MSFT] wrote:
>> > > Alot of people have used the extended desktop for tablet powertoy
>> to gain
>> > > that functionality:
>> >
>> > I think its not a solution for my problem. I will use a monitor as
>> > primary desktop with a external mouse, and the tablet as secondary
>> > desktop with the pen.
>> >
>> > I already tested the Extended Desktop powertoy.
>> >
>> > > This PowerToy will create a window on your Tablet PC that shows
>a
>> > > duplicate image of the desktop on the external monitor. You can
>> then
>> > > manipulate the objects on the extended desktop within this
>window.
>> >
>> > It´s a nice workaround, but no way to work productive with a
>external
>> > monitor.
>> >
>> > Christian
>> >
>> >
>>
>

of course not, tablet pc is not a monitor! you are comparing apples
(conputer) with oranges (display)

"JDTHREE [MVP]" <john@removeforspam.engagenet.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:duat80pq3jaa1a44cmthsch7u0culh2qdi@4ax.com...
> "Main" being the source computer - "Secondary" being an extended
> monitor. So with a tablet PC you can plug in a second monitor and use
> both with the tablet (with either being #1 or #2 - NOT what he was
> referring to below) but you can't plug the tablet into a desktop or
> another machine and have it's display be the "extended desktop"
> monitor for the other computer.
>
> John
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 20:09:12 +0200, "www.MSmobiles.com"
> <nospam@msmobiles.com> wrote:
>
> >what is the difference between "main" and secondary? isn´t an artificial
> >differentiation?
> >
> >"terri" <support@thetabletpc.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> >news:e2gcsmHLEHA.556@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> >> Hi, Tom, I'm pretty sure that the Tablet PC screens do not have the
option
> >> to be used as a second monitor. It can only be used as the main with a
> >> second monitor. I know it's not what you (or many others) want to
hear,
> >but
> >> for now, it needs to be used as the main monitor.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Terri Stratton
> >> Microsoft Windows MVP / Tablet PC
> >> http://thetabletpc.net
> >> Expert Zone - http://microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/default.asp
> >>
> >>
> >> "Tom Kaplan" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:812D4511-59D4-4A07-B718-3494C2633BB9@microsoft.com...
> >> > I have the same issue as Mr. Hilk. I also tried the PowerToy and i
> >agree
> >> it is not what he and I (and probably many other users who havent found
> >this
> >> webstie) are looking for.
> >> >
> >> > Perhaps it would be helpful to add some additional specificity to Mr.
> >> Hilk's question:
> >> >
> >> > I use the tablet as my primary PC at work. It is attached to a
regular
> >> keyboard, mouse and monitor. When i am at work, i use the regular
> >keyboard,
> >> mouse and monitor just like a regular PC. The regular monitor is set
up
> >as
> >> my primary monitor and the tablet monitor is set up as the second
monitor.
> >> Under "Display Properties", "Settings", the "Display" drop-down menu is
> >set
> >> to "1. (Multiple Monitors) on Intel(R) 82830M Graphics-Controller-0".
The
> >> primary screen (my desktop screen) is set to 1400x1050 resolution. The
> >> secondary screen (my tablet screen) is set to 1024x768. On the primary
> >> screen, both check boxes are gray under "Use this device as the primary
> >> monitor" and "Extend my Windows desktop onto this monitor." On the
> >> secondary screen, the "Use this device as the primary monitor" is
> >unchecked
> >> and the "Extend my Windows desktop onto this monitor" is checked.
> >> >
> >> > I believe that this is what you were referring to when you said to
use
> >the
> >> extended desktop feature. It would be very inconvenient for me to use
the
> >> tablet screen as the primary monitor since it is off to the side of my
> >desk
> >> and i dont really ever look at that screen. if the tablet were my
primary
> >> monitor then my start menu would appear over there and all the
> >applications
> >> would launch over there -- not really very useful in my situation.
> >> >
> >> > With this configuration, when i point the tablet pen to the tablet
> >> display, the mouse movements appear on my primary display (i.e. the
> >desktop
> >> monitor). This is basically useless since i already have a mouse that
> >works
> >> perfectly well for pointing to things on my desktop monitor.
> >> >
> >> > I typically open up Windows Journal when i come in in the morning,
move
> >it
> >> to the tablet display, and leave it open while i work. I would like to
be
> >> able to take notes with the pen on my Windows Journal during the day.
> >> However, if i point the pen to the tablet screen the mouse movements
> >appear
> >> on the primary desktop screen.
> >> >
> >> > So the questions is: assuming i leave my screen configuration with
the
> >> desktop monitor as my primary monitor, is there any way that i can use
the
> >> tablet pen to write on the tablet screen?
> >> >
> >> > ----- Christian Hilk wrote: -----
> >> >
> >> > Mason Jensen [MSFT] wrote:
> >> > > Alot of people have used the extended desktop for tablet
powertoy
> >> to gain
> >> > > that functionality:
> >> >
> >> > I think its not a solution for my problem. I will use a monitor
as
> >> > primary desktop with a external mouse, and the tablet as
secondary
> >> > desktop with the pen.
> >> >
> >> > I already tested the Extended Desktop powertoy.
> >> >
> >> > > This PowerToy will create a window on your Tablet PC that
shows
> >a
> >> > > duplicate image of the desktop on the external monitor. You
can
> >> then
> >> > > manipulate the objects on the extended desktop within this
> >window.
> >> >
> >> > It´s a nice workaround, but no way to work productive with a
> >external
> >> > monitor.
> >> >
> >> > Christian
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
>

I'm comparing nothing - I'm answering a question that you yourself
posted.

John

On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 21:16:13 +0200, "www.MSmobiles.com"
<nospam@msmobiles.com> wrote:

>of course not, tablet pc is not a monitor! you are comparing apples
>(conputer) with oranges (display)
>
>"JDTHREE [MVP]" <john@removeforspam.engagenet.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
>news:duat80pq3jaa1a44cmthsch7u0culh2qdi@4ax.com.. .
>> "Main" being the source computer - "Secondary" being an extended
>> monitor. So with a tablet PC you can plug in a second monitor and use
>> both with the tablet (with either being #1 or #2 - NOT what he was
>> referring to below) but you can't plug the tablet into a desktop or
>> another machine and have it's display be the "extended desktop"
>> monitor for the other computer.
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 20:09:12 +0200, "www.MSmobiles.com"
>> <nospam@msmobiles.com> wrote:
>>
>> >what is the difference between "main" and secondary? isn´t an artificial
>> >differentiation?
>> >
>> >"terri" <support@thetabletpc.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
>> >news:e2gcsmHLEHA.556@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> >> Hi, Tom, I'm pretty sure that the Tablet PC screens do not have the
>option
>> >> to be used as a second monitor. It can only be used as the main with a
>> >> second monitor. I know it's not what you (or many others) want to
>hear,
>> >but
>> >> for now, it needs to be used as the main monitor.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Terri Stratton
>> >> Microsoft Windows MVP / Tablet PC
>> >> http://thetabletpc.net
>> >> Expert Zone - http://microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/default.asp
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Tom Kaplan" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:812D4511-59D4-4A07-B718-3494C2633BB9@microsoft.com...
>> >> > I have the same issue as Mr. Hilk. I also tried the PowerToy and i
>> >agree
>> >> it is not what he and I (and probably many other users who havent found
>> >this
>> >> webstie) are looking for.
>> >> >
>> >> > Perhaps it would be helpful to add some additional specificity to Mr.
>> >> Hilk's question:
>> >> >
>> >> > I use the tablet as my primary PC at work. It is attached to a
>regular
>> >> keyboard, mouse and monitor. When i am at work, i use the regular
>> >keyboard,
>> >> mouse and monitor just like a regular PC. The regular monitor is set
>up
>> >as
>> >> my primary monitor and the tablet monitor is set up as the second
>monitor.
>> >> Under "Display Properties", "Settings", the "Display" drop-down menu is
>> >set
>> >> to "1. (Multiple Monitors) on Intel(R) 82830M Graphics-Controller-0".
>The
>> >> primary screen (my desktop screen) is set to 1400x1050 resolution. The
>> >> secondary screen (my tablet screen) is set to 1024x768. On the primary
>> >> screen, both check boxes are gray under "Use this device as the primary
>> >> monitor" and "Extend my Windows desktop onto this monitor." On the
>> >> secondary screen, the "Use this device as the primary monitor" is
>> >unchecked
>> >> and the "Extend my Windows desktop onto this monitor" is checked.
>> >> >
>> >> > I believe that this is what you were referring to when you said to
>use
>> >the
>> >> extended desktop feature. It would be very inconvenient for me to use
>the
>> >> tablet screen as the primary monitor since it is off to the side of my
>> >desk
>> >> and i dont really ever look at that screen. if the tablet were my
>primary
>> >> monitor then my start menu would appear over there and all the
>> >applications
>> >> would launch over there -- not really very useful in my situation.
>> >> >
>> >> > With this configuration, when i point the tablet pen to the tablet
>> >> display, the mouse movements appear on my primary display (i.e. the
>> >desktop
>> >> monitor). This is basically useless since i already have a mouse that
>> >works
>> >> perfectly well for pointing to things on my desktop monitor.
>> >> >
>> >> > I typically open up Windows Journal when i come in in the morning,
>move
>> >it
>> >> to the tablet display, and leave it open while i work. I would like to
>be
>> >> able to take notes with the pen on my Windows Journal during the day.
>> >> However, if i point the pen to the tablet screen the mouse movements
>> >appear
>> >> on the primary desktop screen.
>> >> >
>> >> > So the questions is: assuming i leave my screen configuration with
>the
>> >> desktop monitor as my primary monitor, is there any way that i can use
>the
>> >> tablet pen to write on the tablet screen?
>> >> >
>> >> > ----- Christian Hilk wrote: -----
>> >> >
>> >> > Mason Jensen [MSFT] wrote:
>> >> > > Alot of people have used the extended desktop for tablet
>powertoy
>> >> to gain
>> >> > > that functionality:
>> >> >
>> >> > I think its not a solution for my problem. I will use a monitor
>as
>> >> > primary desktop with a external mouse, and the tablet as
>secondary
>> >> > desktop with the pen.
>> >> >
>> >> > I already tested the Extended Desktop powertoy.
>> >> >
>> >> > > This PowerToy will create a window on your Tablet PC that
>shows
>> >a
>> >> > > duplicate image of the desktop on the external monitor. You
>can
>> >> then
>> >> > > manipulate the objects on the extended desktop within this
>> >window.
>> >> >
>> >> > It´s a nice workaround, but no way to work productive with a
>> >external
>> >> > monitor.
>> >> >
>> >> > Christian
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>>
>

> "Tom Kaplan" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:812D4511-59D4-4A07-B718-3494C2633BB9@microsoft.com...
>
> > I use the tablet as my primary PC at work. It is attached to a regular
> keyboard, mouse and monitor. When i am at work, i use the regular keyboard,
> mouse and monitor just like a regular PC. The regular monitor is set up as
> my primary monitor and the tablet monitor is set up as the second monitor.

In article <e2gcsmHLEHA.556@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl>,
support@thetabletpc.net says...
> Hi, Tom, I'm pretty sure that the Tablet PC screens do not have the option
> to be used as a second monitor. It can only be used as the main with a
> second monitor. I know it's not what you (or many others) want to hear, but
> for now, it needs to be used as the main monitor.

Terri, if you reread Tom's post carefully you will see that he isn't
trying to use the Tablet PC 'as a second monitor'. Although I do remember
hashing this issue out thoroughly quite some time ago because several of
Microsoft's demos included a statement claiming that you could, in fact,
do that. All Tom was saying is that he had set the settings ON HIS TABLET
PC to make the external monitor, which he had connected to his Tablet
PC's VGA port, the primary monitor, thus making the Tablet PC's screen
the 'secondary' monitor.

I haven't tried the same thing that Tom has yet so I don't know if I
would have the same results but I can see how this would be a problem. If
you prop the Tablet PC up and set it as the Primary monitor it is
difficult to write on. If you lay it down and set it as the secondary
monitor you can't write on it at all. If you lay it down so it is easy to
write on and leave it set as the primary monitor so you can actually
write on it then all the apps open on that monitor and you gotta keep
dragging them over to the external monitor. Plus you have less room in
the task bar for minimized applications. It's almost as if someone had
just read 'Catch-22' before they sat down to write the code for this.

There seem to be plenty of people on the newsgroup who have opinions about this issue, but no one seems to have a solution. Grant states that "Several of Microsoft's demos included a statement claiming that you could, in fact, do that" and then goes on to point out that you can't, in fact, do that. So at this point i have to conclude that either:
(i) Microsoft is demo-ing something that does not exist; or
(ii) (Hopefully) Grant is mistaken and you can, in fact do that.

("Do that" being -- use a desktop monitor as your primary monitor, the tablet screen as a secondary monitor, and use the tablet pen as a pointer on the tablet screen)

Does anyone care to weigh in on whether we are in (i) or (ii)??
____________________________________



----- Grant Robertson wrote: -----

Terri, if you reread Tom's post carefully you will see that he isn't trying to use the Tablet PC 'as a second monitor'. Although I do remember hashing this issue out thoroughly quite some time ago becauses several of Microsoft's demos included a statement claiming that you could, in fact, do that. All Tom was saying is that he had set the settings ON HIS TABLET PC to make the external monitor, which he had connected to his Tablet PC's VGA port, the primary monitor, thus making the Tablet PC's screen the 'secondary' monitor.

I haven't tried the same thing that Tom has yet so I don't know if I would have the same results but I can see how this would be a problem. If you prop the Tablet PC up and set it as the Primary monitor it is difficult to write on. If you lay it down and set it as the secondary monitor you can't write on it at all. If you lay it down so it is easy to write on and leave it set as the primary monitor so you can actually write on it then all the apps open on that monitor and you gotta keep dragging them over to the external monitor. Plus you have less room in the task bar for minimized applications. It's almost as if someone had just read 'Catch-22' before they sat down to write the code for this.

____________________________________

In article <e2gcsmHLEHA.556@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl>,
support@thetabletpc.net says...

Hi, Tom, I'm pretty sure that the Tablet PC screens do not have the option to be used as a second monitor. It can only be used as the main with a second monitor. I know it's not what you (or many others) want to hear, but for now, it needs to be used as the main monitor.
--
Terri Stratton
Microsoft Windows MVP / Tablet PC
http://thetabletpc.net
Expert Zone - http://microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/default.asp
____________________________________

"Tom Kaplan" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:812D4511-59D4-4A07-B718-3494C2633BB9@microsoft.com...

I have the same issue as Mr. Hilk. I also tried the PowerToy and i agree it is not what he and I (and probably many other users who havent found this website) are looking for.

Perhaps it would be helpful to add some additional specificity to Mr. Hilk's question:

I use the tablet as my primary PC at work. It is attached to a regular keyboard, mouse and monitor. When i am at work, i use the regular keyboard, mouse and monitor just like a regular PC. The regular monitor is set up as my primary monitor and the tablet monitor is set up as the second monitor. Under "Display Properties", "Settings", the "Display" drop-down menu is set to "1. (Multiple Monitors) on Intel(R) 82830M Graphics-Controller-0". The primary screen (my desktop screen) is set to 1400x1050 resolution. The secondary screen (my tablet screen) is set to 1024x768. On the primary screen, both check boxes are gray under "Use this device as the primary monitor" and "Extend my Windows desktop onto this monitor." On the secondary screen, the "Use this device as the primary monitor" is unchecked and the "Extend my Windows desktop onto this monitor" is checked.

I believe that this is what you were referring to when you said to use the extended desktop feature. It would be very inconvenient for me to use the tablet screen as the primary monitor since it is off to the side of my desk and i dont really ever look at that screen. if the tablet were my primary monitor then my start menu would appear over there and all the applications would launch over there -- not really very useful in my situation.

With this configuration, when i point the tablet pen to the tablet display, the mouse movements appear on my primary display (i.e. the desktop monitor). This is basically useless since i already have a mouse that works perfectly well for pointing to things on my desktop monitor.

I typically open up Windows Journal when i come in in the morning, move it to the tablet display, and leave it open while i work. I would like to be able to take notes with the pen on my Windows Journal during the day. However, if i point the pen to the tablet screen the mouse movements appear on the primary desktop screen.

So the questions is: assuming i leave my screen configuration with the desktop monitor as my primary monitor, is there any way that i can use the tablet pen to write on the tablet screen?
____________________________________

"Christian Hilk" <mh76d@web.de> wrote in message
news:bului0$hlsuf$1@ID-158094.news.uni-berlin.de...

I think its not a solution for my problem. I will use a monitor as primary desktop with a external mouse, and the tablet as secondary desktop with the pen. I already tested the Extended Desktop powertoy. It´s a nice workaround, but no way to work productive with a external monitor.

Christian
____________________________________
Mason Jensen [MSFT] wrote:

Alot of people have used the extended desktop for tablet powertoy to gain that functionality:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/t.../powertoys.asp
____________________________________

"Christian Hilk" <mh76d@web.de> wrote in message
news:bului0$hlsuf$1@ID-158094.news.uni-berlin.de...

In this case, I run into another problem: The taskbar should be on the external display (it´s possible with drag & drop). But new applications starts on the tablet. How can I start new applications directly on the external display?

Isn't there any possibility to redirect the pen movement to the secondary display?
____________________________________

Mason Jensen [MSFT] wrote:

Extended desktop should do what you are requesting, mouse controls the cursor for the external display, and pen controls the cursor for the tablet. What do you mean when you say "I’m looking for (actual mouse position) bud it only show’s the cursor when you set focus on it"?
____________________________________

"Christian Hilk" <mh76d@web.de> wrote in message
news:bului0$hlsuf$1@ID-158094.news.uni-berlin.de...

I run a Tablet PC (Acer TravelMate C300) on a monitor over the Extended Desktop. The monitor is main (Portrait), the Tablet is secondary (Landscape). My Problem is that the movement of the Pen on the Tablet is shown as a mouse movement on the monitor. The user should work on the Tablet with the pen and on the monitor with a external mouse.

I tried Extended Desktop from Microsoft witch show’s one of the results I’m looking for (actual mouse position) bud it only show’s the cursor when you set focus on it.

Thanks,
Christian

Tom, I've sent your post off to the Tablet team for clarification.

--
Terri Stratton
Microsoft Windows MVP / Tablet PC
http://thetabletpc.net
Expert Zone - http://microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/default.asp


"Tom Kaplan" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:9B49A16D-4BDF-4111-8F13-42FC65224378@microsoft.com...
> There seem to be plenty of people on the newsgroup who have opinions about
> this issue, but no one seems to have a solution. Grant states that
> "Several of Microsoft's demos included a statement claiming that you
> could, in fact, do that" and then goes on to point out that you can't, in
> fact, do that. So at this point i have to conclude that either:
> (i) Microsoft is demo-ing something that does not exist; or
> (ii) (Hopefully) Grant is mistaken and you can, in fact do that.
>
> ("Do that" being -- use a desktop monitor as your primary monitor, the
> tablet screen as a secondary monitor, and use the tablet pen as a pointer
> on the tablet screen)
>
> Does anyone care to weigh in on whether we are in (i) or (ii)??
> ____________________________________
>
>
>
> ----- Grant Robertson wrote: -----
>
> Terri, if you reread Tom's post carefully you will see that he isn't
> trying to use the Tablet PC 'as a second monitor'. Although I do remember
> hashing this issue out thoroughly quite some time ago becauses several of
> Microsoft's demos included a statement claiming that you could, in fact,
> do that. All Tom was saying is that he had set the settings ON HIS TABLET
> PC to make the external monitor, which he had connected to his Tablet PC's
> VGA port, the primary monitor, thus making the Tablet PC's screen the
> 'secondary' monitor.
>
> I haven't tried the same thing that Tom has yet so I don't know if I would
> have the same results but I can see how this would be a problem. If you
> prop the Tablet PC up and set it as the Primary monitor it is difficult to
> write on. If you lay it down and set it as the secondary monitor you can't
> write on it at all. If you lay it down so it is easy to write on and leave
> it set as the primary monitor so you can actually write on it then all the
> apps open on that monitor and you gotta keep dragging them over to the
> external monitor. Plus you have less room in the task bar for minimized
> applications. It's almost as if someone had just read 'Catch-22' before
> they sat down to write the code for this.
>
> ____________________________________
>
> In article <e2gcsmHLEHA.556@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl>,
> support@thetabletpc.net says...
>
> Hi, Tom, I'm pretty sure that the Tablet PC screens do not have the option
> to be used as a second monitor. It can only be used as the main with a
> second monitor. I know it's not what you (or many others) want to hear,
> but for now, it needs to be used as the main monitor.
> --
> Terri Stratton
> Microsoft Windows MVP / Tablet PC
> http://thetabletpc.net
> Expert Zone - http://microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/default.asp
> ____________________________________
>
> "Tom Kaplan" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:812D4511-59D4-4A07-B718-3494C2633BB9@microsoft.com...
>
> I have the same issue as Mr. Hilk. I also tried the PowerToy and i agree
> it is not what he and I (and probably many other users who havent found
> this website) are looking for.
>
> Perhaps it would be helpful to add some additional specificity to Mr.
> Hilk's question:
>
> I use the tablet as my primary PC at work. It is attached to a regular
> keyboard, mouse and monitor. When i am at work, i use the regular
> keyboard, mouse and monitor just like a regular PC. The regular monitor
> is set up as my primary monitor and the tablet monitor is set up as the
> second monitor. Under "Display Properties", "Settings", the "Display"
> drop-down menu is set to "1. (Multiple Monitors) on Intel(R) 82830M
> Graphics-Controller-0". The primary screen (my desktop screen) is set to
> 1400x1050 resolution. The secondary screen (my tablet screen) is set to
> 1024x768. On the primary screen, both check boxes are gray under "Use
> this device as the primary monitor" and "Extend my Windows desktop onto
> this monitor." On the secondary screen, the "Use this device as the
> primary monitor" is unchecked and the "Extend my Windows desktop onto this
> monitor" is checked.
>
> I believe that this is what you were referring to when you said to use the
> extended desktop feature. It would be very inconvenient for me to use the
> tablet screen as the primary monitor since it is off to the side of my
> desk and i dont really ever look at that screen. if the tablet were my
> primary monitor then my start menu would appear over there and all the
> applications would launch over there -- not really very useful in my
> situation.
>
> With this configuration, when i point the tablet pen to the tablet
> display, the mouse movements appear on my primary display (i.e. the
> desktop monitor). This is basically useless since i already have a mouse
> that works perfectly well for pointing to things on my desktop monitor.
>
> I typically open up Windows Journal when i come in in the morning, move it
> to the tablet display, and leave it open while i work. I would like to be
> able to take notes with the pen on my Windows Journal during the day.
> However, if i point the pen to the tablet screen the mouse movements
> appear on the primary desktop screen.
>
> So the questions is: assuming i leave my screen configuration with the
> desktop monitor as my primary monitor, is there any way that i can use the
> tablet pen to write on the tablet screen?
> ____________________________________
>
> "Christian Hilk" <mh76d@web.de> wrote in message
> news:bului0$hlsuf$1@ID-158094.news.uni-berlin.de...
>
> I think its not a solution for my problem. I will use a monitor as primary
> desktop with a external mouse, and the tablet as secondary desktop with
> the pen. I already tested the Extended Desktop powertoy. It´s a nice
> workaround, but no way to work productive with a external monitor.
>
> Christian
> ____________________________________
> Mason Jensen [MSFT] wrote:
>
> Alot of people have used the extended desktop for tablet powertoy to gain
> that functionality:
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/t.../powertoys.asp
> ____________________________________
>
> "Christian Hilk" <mh76d@web.de> wrote in message
> news:bului0$hlsuf$1@ID-158094.news.uni-berlin.de...
>
> In this case, I run into another problem: The taskbar should be on the
> external display (it´s possible with drag & drop). But new applications
> starts on the tablet. How can I start new applications directly on the
> external display?
>
> Isn't there any possibility to redirect the pen movement to the secondary
> display?
> ____________________________________
>
> Mason Jensen [MSFT] wrote:
>
> Extended desktop should do what you are requesting, mouse controls the
> cursor for the external display, and pen controls the cursor for the
> tablet. What do you mean when you say "I’m looking for (actual mouse
> position) bud it only show’s the cursor when you set focus on it"?
> ____________________________________
>
> "Christian Hilk" <mh76d@web.de> wrote in message
> news:bului0$hlsuf$1@ID-158094.news.uni-berlin.de...
>
> I run a Tablet PC (Acer TravelMate C300) on a monitor over the Extended
> Desktop. The monitor is main (Portrait), the Tablet is secondary
> (Landscape). My Problem is that the movement of the Pen on the Tablet is
> shown as a mouse movement on the monitor. The user should work on the
> Tablet with the pen and on the monitor with a external mouse.
>
> I tried Extended Desktop from Microsoft witch show’s one of the results I’m
> looking for (actual mouse position) bud it only show’s the cursor when you
> set focus on it.
>
> Thanks,
> Christian
>

In article <9B49A16D-4BDF-4111-8F13-42FC65224378@microsoft.com>,
anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com says...
> There seem to be plenty of people on the newsgroup who have opinions about this issue, but no one seems to have a solution. Grant states that "Several of Microsoft's demos included a statement claiming that you could, in fact, do that" and then goes on to point out that you can't, in fact, do that. So at this point i have to
conclude that either:
> (i) Microsoft is demo-ing something that does not exist; or
> (ii) (Hopefully) Grant is mistaken and you can, in fact do that.
>
>

Actually the conclusion was that the person giving the demo must have
mispoken. They said, "You can use it AS a second monitor." when they
should have said "You can use it WITH a second monitor.

Technically, you can connect a _second_ monitor to most Tablet PC's,
then set that monitor as the _primary_ monitor in the Display Properties
dialog, thus making the Tablet PC's main screen the _secondARY_ monitor.
This has cause much confusion in discussions where people aren't as
careful in their wording as they should be.

Now, to make things even more confusing, a company named MaxiVista
(www.maxivista.com) has created a program that allows you to use _any_
computer, laptop, or Tablet PC as a _second_ monitor for any other
computer that is connected over a network. Essentially, it is a virtual
vidio card driver, much like Adobe Distiller is a virtual printer driver.
You install the driver on the computer that needs an extra monitor. Then
you run a small utility (that doesn't even need to be installed) on some
other computer. The driver on the first computer compresses the display
information and sends it over the network to the second computer which
displays it. You can have the second computer display it full screen or
in a window.
So now you can actually use your Tablet PC as a _second_ monitor. I
don't think the Microsoft employee's doing the demo's had this in mind
when they misspoke. But this is the type of technology that Microsoft
likes to snap up and then pretend that they invented it.

P.S. The only reason I know about this product is that I read it in this
newsgroup. It was discussed about a month ago. I highly recommend taking
the time to read back through all the messages. There is a lot of good
information in there and all of your questions on this issue have already
been answered.

Has there been any further information or "resolution" on this? I am also trying to use my monitor as my primary, and my tablet as my secondary while still using pen input on my tablet. Hardware is Acer C301.

Thanks,
Mike



[quote=terri]Tom, I've sent your post off to the Tablet team for clarification.

--
Terri Stratton
Microsoft Windows MVP / Tablet PC
http://thetabletpc.net
Expert Zone - http://microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/default.asp

After trawling through a few forums (should that be fora ?) its good to see an actual discussion of this issue by people who seem to know what they are talking about ;-)

I'm using an HP TC1100 tablet and AFAIK, I am not able to set the tablet so that its screen is the primary monitor. I too want to be able to use it alonsgide my desktop screen so that I can scribble notes on it whilst viewing other apps on the desktop.

I have been told by someone in another forum that the reason why the "