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Hello,

I'm looking to purchase a tablet pc within the next few months, and I'd
like to get ideas one which types users currently have. I'll be using
it to take notes in class using OneNote, papers in Word, possibly some
Visio charts, and some Java programming.

tx,

- --rob

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Excellent choices in programs. Depending on where you're going to school,
you may also want to check into GoBinder from Agilix:
http://www.gobinder.com/index.html It works with Blackboard, used by many
colleges for transmitting information between professors and students.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - www.sandpoint.net/creations
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone

"Robert D. Napiza" <robert.usenet@napiza.org> wrote in message
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> I'm looking to purchase a tablet pc within the next few months, and I'd
> like to get ideas one which types users currently have. I'll be using
> it to take notes in class using OneNote, papers in Word, possibly some
> Visio charts, and some Java programming.
>
> tx,
>
> - --rob
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"terri" <support@thetabletpc.net> wrote in message
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> I have a comparison chart listed on the websit in my signature. I think
you
> may find it helpful in matching a tablet to the features your want.
> http://thetabletpc.net

What is the word on the OQO Ultra Personal Computer:
http://www.oqo.com/hardware/basics/
It is touted as being available in the fall of 2004 but OQO missed 2003
deadlines for a release. The computer opens up the jacket-pocket size
market, and sounds like it could be really revolutionary, both for the
computer business and for the clothing business.

"terri" <support@thetabletpc.net> wrote in message
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> I checked the specs and I only saw XP, not Tablet PC Edition as the
> operating system. I saw this unit at a show, but I don't remember if this
> is the one that has Windows XP Tablet PC Edition or if it's Transmeta's
8.4"
> model.
>
> There are enough that use the latest tablet operating system, so I keep
> pretty busy with those and don't always pay a lot of attention to the
> machines that use only XP Home or Pro. :)

http://www.oqo.com/hardware/basics/ says "For input and navigation it
includes thumb keyboard with TrackStik(TM) and mouse buttons as well as
digital pen and thumbwheel" and http://www.oqo.com/hardware/video/ shows
someone writing on the screen with a digital pen. I may have jumped to
conclusions by assuming that a Windows XP computer with digital pen input
uses XP Tablet PC Edition, but it would be a big mistake if it did not.

"terri" <support@thetabletpc.net> wrote in message
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> I agree. There are many tablets out there that don't use Tablet PC
Edition,
> but getting a license requires very specific hardware requirements.

I sent an e-mail to OQO's contact address to ask if they use regular XP or
Tablet XP. If I don't get an answer I will figure they are not coming out
with a computer with XP Tablet anytime soon.

Robert D. Napiza wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I'm looking to purchase a tablet pc within the next few months, and I'd
> like to get ideas one which types users currently have. I'll be using
> it to take notes in class using OneNote, papers in Word, possibly some
> Visio charts, and some Java programming.
>
> tx,
>
> --rob
>


WOW... just want to say thanks for all you're suggestions... I did look
at the oqo at one point, although very interesting, I find more annoying
than difficult taking notes on such a small screen. I'm already doing
that with a PocketPC.


thanx a bunch!!

btw: i'll keep you all posted on which one i decide on :-D

--rob

"terri" <support@thetabletpc.net> wrote in message
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> Please keep us posted, Mickey.

OQO didn't respond within 48 hours of my query about whether their computer
will use XP Tablet. I will assume they are not coming out with a computer
with XP Tablet anytime soon. If I get a response suggesting otherwise I
will post again about this.

"Mickey Segal" <ignored@example.com> wrote in message
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> OQO didn't respond within 48 hours of my query about whether their
computer
> will use XP Tablet. I will assume they are not coming out with a computer
> with XP Tablet anytime soon. If I get a response suggesting otherwise I
> will post again about this.

I heard from OQO but I can't figure out what their answer means.

When asked "whether the OQO Ultra Personal Computer will use regular Windows
XP or Windows XP Tablet PC edition" they responded "The OQO uPC is a real
computer and is capable of using normal Windows XP".

I asked for a clarification.

"Capable" means that's not what is running on it. If they were using the
Tablet PC Edition and Windows XP Pro, they'd say so. 8-)
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone



"Mickey Segal" <ignored@example.com> wrote in message
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> "Mickey Segal" <ignored@example.com> wrote in message
> news:OgXYK7$IEHA.2576@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> OQO didn't respond within 48 hours of my query about whether their
> computer
>> will use XP Tablet. I will assume they are not coming out with a
>> computer
>> with XP Tablet anytime soon. If I get a response suggesting otherwise I
>> will post again about this.
>
> I heard from OQO but I can't figure out what their answer means.
>
> When asked "whether the OQO Ultra Personal Computer will use regular
> Windows
> XP or Windows XP Tablet PC edition" they responded "The OQO uPC is a real
> computer and is capable of using normal Windows XP".
>
> I asked for a clarification.
>
>

"terri" <support@thetabletpc.net> wrote in message
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> Sounds as though it runs Windows XP and they may think that you were
asking
> about Windows CE rather than the Tablet PC Edition. Some get them
confused,
> but I'd expect better from a vendor.

The material at www.oqo.com makes it clear that the computer will come with
some form of Windows XP. So far, everything I hear suggests it is regular
XP, not Tablet XP.

After the first ambiguous answer from OQO about the Operating System for
their tiny OQO tablet computer, I asked as directly as I could: "But does it
come with Windows XP Tablet Edition or is that not a possibility?"

I got a response today: "Please explain why you would want to use the Tablet
Edition over XP Professional."

So it sounds like OQO does not offer XP Tablet. However, another
possibility is that the messages are being answered by an Artificial
Intelligence program that hasn't quite figured out what I am trying to ask.

In my reply I tried my best to answer OQO's question about Tablet XP, and
they may indeed have some cool proprietary technology, but betting that
their version #3 will beat Microsoft's version #3 would seem more plausible
if they were willing to acknowledge that they were going head to head
against a very experienced company that has shipped many products before,
while they haven't yet shipped product #1.

It is too bad. The OQO computer seems like excellent hardware design. Why
would they shoot themselves in the foot with a big software gamble?

Mickey, since the Tablet PCs have to meet stringent hardware specs, it might
be that OQO doesn't meet those specs with their tablet. Pen tablets have
been around a long time and this looks like another in the line.

Not everyone needs a Tablet PC nor can everyone afford one. Other tablets
fill a void for a lot of folks who may not need or want a Tablet PC. Rite
Pen is an excellent handwriting program, so this may be a good option for
those who want to try one or stay within a budget.
--
Terri Stratton
Microsoft Windows MVP / Tablet PC
http://thetabletpc.net
Expert Zone - http://microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/default.asp


"Mickey Segal" <ignored@example.com> wrote in message
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> After the first ambiguous answer from OQO about the Operating System for
> their tiny OQO tablet computer, I asked as directly as I could: "But does
it
> come with Windows XP Tablet Edition or is that not a possibility?"
>
> I got a response today: "Please explain why you would want to use the
Tablet
> Edition over XP Professional."
>
> So it sounds like OQO does not offer XP Tablet. However, another
> possibility is that the messages are being answered by an Artificial
> Intelligence program that hasn't quite figured out what I am trying to
ask.
>
> In my reply I tried my best to answer OQO's question about Tablet XP, and
> they may indeed have some cool proprietary technology, but betting that
> their version #3 will beat Microsoft's version #3 would seem more
plausible
> if they were willing to acknowledge that they were going head to head
> against a very experienced company that has shipped many products before,
> while they haven't yet shipped product #1.
>
> It is too bad. The OQO computer seems like excellent hardware design.
Why
> would they shoot themselves in the foot with a big software gamble?
>
>

"Chris H." <winxpnews********.com> wrote in message
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> The are certain hardware requirements for true Tablet PCs:
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/t...per/hdwreq.asp There
are
> already products saying they're "tablets" when they don't and can't run
the
> Tablet PC Edition on Windows XP Pro, and don't run the digital screens.
The
> specifics are to insure quality of the product.

As discussed in the current thread "BETTER than Tablets r ritePen SW + iPen.
Tablets r NOT a better KIND of computer" it seems that OQO is arguing that
the ritePen (http://www.penandinternet.com/) is a better approach than
building pen support into the operating system. We have seen such battles
before; OQO may be the Apple of the pen computing world. However, we should
not become so trapped by history that we make the opposite mistakes.

Voting with our dollars, we will probably buy a mainstream XP Tablet device
such as the Electrovaya Scribbler. But if OQO wants to lend me one of their
pocket-size XP ritePen devices for a medical conference at which I've been
asked to lead a session I bet they would sell a lot of computers due to the
size of the hardware.

beg my pardon: des OQO has digitizer on the display?

"Mickey Segal" <ignored@example.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> "Chris H." <winxpnews********.com> wrote in message
> news:uxa$CxALEHA.2244@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > The are certain hardware requirements for true Tablet PCs:
> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/t...per/hdwreq.asp There
> are
> > already products saying they're "tablets" when they don't and can't run
> the
> > Tablet PC Edition on Windows XP Pro, and don't run the digital screens.
> The
> > specifics are to insure quality of the product.
>
> As discussed in the current thread "BETTER than Tablets r ritePen SW +
iPen.
> Tablets r NOT a better KIND of computer" it seems that OQO is arguing that
> the ritePen (http://www.penandinternet.com/) is a better approach than
> building pen support into the operating system. We have seen such battles
> before; OQO may be the Apple of the pen computing world. However, we
should
> not become so trapped by history that we make the opposite mistakes.
>
> Voting with our dollars, we will probably buy a mainstream XP Tablet
device
> such as the Electrovaya Scribbler. But if OQO wants to lend me one of
their
> pocket-size XP ritePen devices for a medical conference at which I've been
> asked to lead a session I bet they would sell a lot of computers due to
the
> size of the hardware.
>
>

"www.MSmobiles.com" <nospam@msmobiles.com> wrote in message
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> beg my pardon: des OQO has digitizer on the display?

I don't see the answer on the Web site, which lists under specifications
only:
800 x 480 W-VGA 5" transflective display (indoor / outdoor readable)

As a result, I don't know if their choice of operating system is constrained
by their hardware choices.