I've been eyeing the Electrovaya Scribbler 2010 but my chief concern is that
its support for only 802.11b wireless support will make the computer a lot
less useful as wireless security becomes a greater concern. What are good
approaches:
1. Is an equivalent Tablet PC with 802.11g support expected soon, or are
there reasons for expecting that 802.11b will persist for a long time in the
marketplace?
2. Are there good ways of upgrading wireless support on the existing
Electrovaya Scribbler 2010?

As a general wireless statement, if the Tablet PC you're looking at doesn't
include the option for 802.11b/g presently, you're not going to be able to
do a simple "update" to include "g" in the future. It is different
hardware. There are a lot of Tablets currently on the market which offer
dual configurations. If your choice of Tablets currently offers only "b"
but has a PCMCIA slot, you could always get a "g" card at some point in the
future.

It is a matter of investigating the availability. You might want to check
the comparison charts on MVP Terri Stratton's web site:
http://thetabletpc.net for further information. She always has the latest
info.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - www.sandpoint.net/creations
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone

"Mickey Segal" <ignored@example.com> wrote in message
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> I've been eyeing the Electrovaya Scribbler 2010 but my chief concern is
> that
> its support for only 802.11b wireless support will make the computer a lot
> less useful as wireless security becomes a greater concern. What are good
> approaches:
> 1. Is an equivalent Tablet PC with 802.11g support expected soon, or are
> there reasons for expecting that 802.11b will persist for a long time in
> the
> marketplace?
> 2. Are there good ways of upgrading wireless support on the existing
> Electrovaya Scribbler 2010?
>
>
>
>

It also depends on what you're willing to do. :)

On my Toshiba 3500, I wanted A support, so spent under $80 for a dell
truemobile 1400 802.11a/b/g mini-pci. Pulled the mini-PCI out of the
Toshiba, put in the new one, and had support for three different
network types. Worked well.

On my current tablet, I have b/g only. So I went out last night to
buy a 802.11g firewall. I'm hoping that it'll let me keep using G
even if I have B devices running - they'll be locked out of this unit
and using one of the other two access points I have at home. We'll
see...

The problem with swapping out on my old Toshiba tablet was that I
could no longer use the handy switch to physically turn off the
wireless. Other than that, it caused me no problems.

John

On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 08:27:06 -0700, "Chris H." <winxpnews********.com>
wrote:

>As a general wireless statement, if the Tablet PC you're looking at doesn't
>include the option for 802.11b/g presently, you're not going to be able to
>do a simple "update" to include "g" in the future. It is different
>hardware. There are a lot of Tablets currently on the market which offer
>dual configurations. If your choice of Tablets currently offers only "b"
>but has a PCMCIA slot, you could always get a "g" card at some point in the
>future.
>
>It is a matter of investigating the availability. You might want to check
>the comparison charts on MVP Terri Stratton's web site:
>http://thetabletpc.net for further information. She always has the latest
>info.

Yup we have done a similar thing with the Motion M1300 when it first came
out and put in an a Mini PCI and we have also put in the same DELL 1400 into
others. If you feel comfortable doing it then it is possible.

Cheers

Paul

"JDTHREE [MVP]" <john@removeforspam.engagenet.com> wrote in message
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> It also depends on what you're willing to do. :)
>
> On my Toshiba 3500, I wanted A support, so spent under $80 for a dell
> truemobile 1400 802.11a/b/g mini-pci. Pulled the mini-PCI out of the
> Toshiba, put in the new one, and had support for three different
> network types. Worked well.
>
> On my current tablet, I have b/g only. So I went out last night to
> buy a 802.11g firewall. I'm hoping that it'll let me keep using G
> even if I have B devices running - they'll be locked out of this unit
> and using one of the other two access points I have at home. We'll
> see...
>
> The problem with swapping out on my old Toshiba tablet was that I
> could no longer use the handy switch to physically turn off the
> wireless. Other than that, it caused me no problems.
>
> John
>
> On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 08:27:06 -0700, "Chris H." <winxpnews********.com>
> wrote:
>
> >As a general wireless statement, if the Tablet PC you're looking at
doesn't
> >include the option for 802.11b/g presently, you're not going to be able
to
> >do a simple "update" to include "g" in the future. It is different
> >hardware. There are a lot of Tablets currently on the market which offer
> >dual configurations. If your choice of Tablets currently offers only "b"
> >but has a PCMCIA slot, you could always get a "g" card at some point in
the
> >future.
> >
> >It is a matter of investigating the availability. You might want to
check
> >the comparison charts on MVP Terri Stratton's web site:
> >http://thetabletpc.net for further information. She always has the
latest
> >info.
>

"Paul" <info@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Yup we have done a similar thing with the Motion M1300 when it first came
> out and put in an a Mini PCI and we have also put in the same DELL 1400
into
> others. If you feel comfortable doing it then it is possible.

Looking through the comparisons at:
http://thetabletpc.net/comparison.htm
it is remarkable how many of the latest Tablet PC models still use 802.11b
instead of g.

Are Tablet PCs slower to adapt to new technologies or is there some reason
that existing 802.11g chips are not great for Tablet PCs, such as large
power demands?

Personally, I don't believe either of your questions is the reason. I think
it is hardware availability, and a choice of the OEM which market they're
going to push. For the most part, a user who may be connected to a business
LAN with T-1 during the daytime probably has an 802.11b network at home. It
is almost like expecting "DSL or better" for everyone's Internet connection,
when most people (at least in the U.S.) are still on dial-up.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - www.sandpoint.net/creations
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone

"Mickey Segal" <ignored@example.com> wrote in message
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> "Paul" <info@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:OTW5dvwIEHA.520@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> Yup we have done a similar thing with the Motion M1300 when it first came
>> out and put in an a Mini PCI and we have also put in the same DELL 1400
> into
>> others. If you feel comfortable doing it then it is possible.
>
> Looking through the comparisons at:
> http://thetabletpc.net/comparison.htm
> it is remarkable how many of the latest Tablet PC models still use 802.11b
> instead of g.
>
> Are Tablet PCs slower to adapt to new technologies or is there some reason
> that existing 802.11g chips are not great for Tablet PCs, such as large
> power demands?
>
>

As the newer models are released, most are offering b/g and in some cases
a/b/g. More models will be offered throughout this year, yet, and I'd
expect to see more and more bluetooth and 802.11g.

--
Terri Stratton
Microsoft Windows MVP / Tablet PC
http://thetabletpc.net
Expert Zone - http://microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/default.asp


"Mickey Segal" <ignored@example.com> wrote in message
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> "Paul" <info@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:OTW5dvwIEHA.520@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > Yup we have done a similar thing with the Motion M1300 when it first
came
> > out and put in an a Mini PCI and we have also put in the same DELL 1400
> into
> > others. If you feel comfortable doing it then it is possible.
>
> Looking through the comparisons at:
> http://thetabletpc.net/comparison.htm
> it is remarkable how many of the latest Tablet PC models still use 802.11b
> instead of g.
>
> Are Tablet PCs slower to adapt to new technologies or is there some reason
> that existing 802.11g chips are not great for Tablet PCs, such as large
> power demands?
>
>

"Chris H." <winxpnews********.com> wrote in message
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> Personally, I don't believe either of your questions is the reason. I
think
> it is hardware availability, and a choice of the OEM which market they're
> going to push. For the most part, a user who may be connected to a
business
> LAN with T-1 during the daytime probably has an 802.11b network at home.
It
> is almost like expecting "DSL or better" for everyone's Internet
connection,
> when most people (at least in the U.S.) are still on dial-up.

I wasn't suggesting that Tablet PC manufacturers are backward in their
thinking; I was fishing for a scenario similar to what you describe.
Historically, processor chips of a given speed arrived in laptop computers
significantly later than they arrived in desktop computers. Tablet
computers seem to be displaying a similar pattern, getting the technology
slower than other computers.

It is good to hear that there are not substantial differences in power
consumption of g vs. b.

8-) I don't know about "later" because I'm running 802.11g on a Tablet here
with my Microsoft MN-700 base station in G-only mode. 8-)
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - www.sandpoint.net/creations
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone

"Mickey Segal" <ignored@example.com> wrote in message
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> "Chris H." <winxpnews********.com> wrote in message
> news:Ow86NI0IEHA.3556@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> Personally, I don't believe either of your questions is the reason. I
> think
>> it is hardware availability, and a choice of the OEM which market they're
>> going to push. For the most part, a user who may be connected to a
> business
>> LAN with T-1 during the daytime probably has an 802.11b network at home.
> It
>> is almost like expecting "DSL or better" for everyone's Internet
> connection,
>> when most people (at least in the U.S.) are still on dial-up.
>
> I wasn't suggesting that Tablet PC manufacturers are backward in their
> thinking; I was fishing for a scenario similar to what you describe.
> Historically, processor chips of a given speed arrived in laptop computers
> significantly later than they arrived in desktop computers. Tablet
> computers seem to be displaying a similar pattern, getting the technology
> slower than other computers.
>
> It is good to hear that there are not substantial differences in power
> consumption of g vs. b.
>
>

"Chris H." <winxpnews********.com> wrote in message
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> 8-) I don't know about "later" because I'm running 802.11g on a Tablet
here
> with my Microsoft MN-700 base station in G-only mode. 8-)

Electrovaya says they have a Scribbler with G mode coming very soon. I've
asked for details.