Hi. I am currently trying to reinstall my Tablet but am having some
problems. The Tablet comes with a manufacturer Recovery CD which appears to
have the normal Win XP Tablet edition with some additional tools and
graphics specific to the OEM. My Tablet doesn't have any CD/DVD drive or
Floppy disk built in, so I've purchased an external USB floppy and external
USB DVD Drive. Unfortunately the Tablet will not boot from the DVD drive,
but it does work normally in windows, afrom reading some online forums there
does appear to be compatibility problems with certain drives when trying to
boot from them. Subsqeuntly I tried using the Win XP Pro boot disks but it
fails on the last disk. The error is suggesting it can't see the HD or a
removable device. I've checked the supplied remaster disk and there is the
additional $OEM$\$1 folder but most of the additional files/programs don't
appear to be related to necessary installation drivers e.g. the only sub
folder is is UTILS and then there are folders containing software such as
Modem and Bluetooth programs.

Can anyone suggest what my options are and what I could do to initate the
install from Boot disks ? I have tried the install 3 times since the errors
have occurred at different points. I did once make it to the main reset
after the boot disks are finished but then received the same error about not
being able to find the HD or removable device. I can't work out why the
install doesn't fail at the same point.

Thanks,
Stuart.

On my Acer I had to go into the BIOS to make sure I boot from CD first. Your
machine may have a similiar setting.

Bernd
"Stuart Mackie [MCP, MSP]" <me@--REMOVE_THIS--stu.uk.com> wrote in message
news:eejOqDDGEHA.688@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Hi. I am currently trying to reinstall my Tablet but am having some
> problems. The Tablet comes with a manufacturer Recovery CD which appears
to
> have the normal Win XP Tablet edition with some additional tools and
> graphics specific to the OEM. My Tablet doesn't have any CD/DVD drive or
> Floppy disk built in, so I've purchased an external USB floppy and
external
> USB DVD Drive. Unfortunately the Tablet will not boot from the DVD drive,
> but it does work normally in windows, afrom reading some online forums
there
> does appear to be compatibility problems with certain drives when trying
to
> boot from them. Subsqeuntly I tried using the Win XP Pro boot disks but
it
> fails on the last disk. The error is suggesting it can't see the HD or a
> removable device. I've checked the supplied remaster disk and there is
the
> additional $OEM$\$1 folder but most of the additional files/programs don't
> appear to be related to necessary installation drivers e.g. the only sub
> folder is is UTILS and then there are folders containing software such as
> Modem and Bluetooth programs.
>
> Can anyone suggest what my options are and what I could do to initate the
> install from Boot disks ? I have tried the install 3 times since the
errors
> have occurred at different points. I did once make it to the main reset
> after the boot disks are finished but then received the same error about
not
> being able to find the HD or removable device. I can't work out why the
> install doesn't fail at the same point.
>
> Thanks,
> Stuart.
>
>

Hi. I've checked the bios and spoke with the manufacturer and unfortunately
it just doesn't seem to want to boot from the DVD drive :( Its really
annoying me atm, becuase if it did I wouldn't have to try and mess around
with floppy drives :)

I'll double check everything again tomorrow, but I've tested booting from
the Recovery CD, as well as a fresh downloaded ISO of Tablet Edition from
MSDN, and neither will boot. It appears as though the Tablet just ignores
the DVD drive on boot, although it does seem to register it is there.

Thanks,
Stuart.


"Bernd Helzer" <bhelzer@byu.net> wrote in message
news:u%23P5UMDGEHA.2308@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> On my Acer I had to go into the BIOS to make sure I boot from CD first.
Your
> machine may have a similiar setting.
>
> Bernd
> "Stuart Mackie [MCP, MSP]" <me@--REMOVE_THIS--stu.uk.com> wrote in message
> news:eejOqDDGEHA.688@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > Hi. I am currently trying to reinstall my Tablet but am having some
> > problems. The Tablet comes with a manufacturer Recovery CD which
appears
> to
> > have the normal Win XP Tablet edition with some additional tools and
> > graphics specific to the OEM. My Tablet doesn't have any CD/DVD drive
or
> > Floppy disk built in, so I've purchased an external USB floppy and
> external
> > USB DVD Drive. Unfortunately the Tablet will not boot from the DVD
drive,
> > but it does work normally in windows, afrom reading some online forums
> there
> > does appear to be compatibility problems with certain drives when trying
> to
> > boot from them. Subsqeuntly I tried using the Win XP Pro boot disks but
> it
> > fails on the last disk. The error is suggesting it can't see the HD or
a
> > removable device. I've checked the supplied remaster disk and there is
> the
> > additional $OEM$\$1 folder but most of the additional files/programs
don't
> > appear to be related to necessary installation drivers e.g. the only sub
> > folder is is UTILS and then there are folders containing software such
as
> > Modem and Bluetooth programs.
> >
> > Can anyone suggest what my options are and what I could do to initate
the
> > install from Boot disks ? I have tried the install 3 times since the
> errors
> > have occurred at different points. I did once make it to the main reset
> > after the boot disks are finished but then received the same error about
> not
> > being able to find the HD or removable device. I can't work out why the
> > install doesn't fail at the same point.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Stuart.
> >
> >
>
>

Unfortunately, a lot of the OEM Recovery CD's use proprietary CD drivers for
their drives, so they will not boot from 3rd party units. I have a Sony
MPD-AP20U drive and a TC1000, and had the same problem. I had to make a
custom disk 1 of my recovery CD's to make it work. I found instructions for
this on tabletpcbuzz.com. Do a search for "boot disk" on the forums there
for the same instructions.

HTH!

Dennis Rice, Tablet MVP

"Stuart Mackie [MCP, MSP]" <me@--REMOVE_THIS--stu.uk.com> wrote in message
news:OQW8qRDGEHA.692@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Hi. I've checked the bios and spoke with the manufacturer and
unfortunately
> it just doesn't seem to want to boot from the DVD drive :( Its really
> annoying me atm, becuase if it did I wouldn't have to try and mess around
> with floppy drives :)
>
> I'll double check everything again tomorrow, but I've tested booting from
> the Recovery CD, as well as a fresh downloaded ISO of Tablet Edition from
> MSDN, and neither will boot. It appears as though the Tablet just ignores
> the DVD drive on boot, although it does seem to register it is there.
>
> Thanks,
> Stuart.
>
>
> "Bernd Helzer" <bhelzer@byu.net> wrote in message
> news:u%23P5UMDGEHA.2308@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > On my Acer I had to go into the BIOS to make sure I boot from CD first.
> Your
> > machine may have a similiar setting.
> >
> > Bernd
> > "Stuart Mackie [MCP, MSP]" <me@--REMOVE_THIS--stu.uk.com> wrote in
message
> > news:eejOqDDGEHA.688@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > Hi. I am currently trying to reinstall my Tablet but am having some
> > > problems. The Tablet comes with a manufacturer Recovery CD which
> appears
> > to
> > > have the normal Win XP Tablet edition with some additional tools and
> > > graphics specific to the OEM. My Tablet doesn't have any CD/DVD drive
> or
> > > Floppy disk built in, so I've purchased an external USB floppy and
> > external
> > > USB DVD Drive. Unfortunately the Tablet will not boot from the DVD
> drive,
> > > but it does work normally in windows, afrom reading some online forums
> > there
> > > does appear to be compatibility problems with certain drives when
trying
> > to
> > > boot from them. Subsqeuntly I tried using the Win XP Pro boot disks
but
> > it
> > > fails on the last disk. The error is suggesting it can't see the HD
or
> a
> > > removable device. I've checked the supplied remaster disk and there
is
> > the
> > > additional $OEM$\$1 folder but most of the additional files/programs
> don't
> > > appear to be related to necessary installation drivers e.g. the only
sub
> > > folder is is UTILS and then there are folders containing software such
> as
> > > Modem and Bluetooth programs.
> > >
> > > Can anyone suggest what my options are and what I could do to initate
> the
> > > install from Boot disks ? I have tried the install 3 times since the
> > errors
> > > have occurred at different points. I did once make it to the main
reset
> > > after the boot disks are finished but then received the same error
about
> > not
> > > being able to find the HD or removable device. I can't work out why
the
> > > install doesn't fail at the same point.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Stuart.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Hi Dennis, thanks for the link. I'm searching as I write this :)

So just to check, you had to add the Sony drivers to the TC1000 recovery
disk ? Were the drivers for a specific O/S e.g. DOS or XP ?

Thanks for your help,
Stuart.


"Dennis Rice (Tablet MVP)" <drice(at)saliantech.com> wrote in message
news:e5VUgCEGEHA.700@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Unfortunately, a lot of the OEM Recovery CD's use proprietary CD drivers
for
> their drives, so they will not boot from 3rd party units. I have a Sony
> MPD-AP20U drive and a TC1000, and had the same problem. I had to make a
> custom disk 1 of my recovery CD's to make it work. I found instructions
for
> this on tabletpcbuzz.com. Do a search for "boot disk" on the forums there
> for the same instructions.
>
> HTH!
>
> Dennis Rice, Tablet MVP
>
> "Stuart Mackie [MCP, MSP]" <me@--REMOVE_THIS--stu.uk.com> wrote in message
> news:OQW8qRDGEHA.692@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > Hi. I've checked the bios and spoke with the manufacturer and
> unfortunately
> > it just doesn't seem to want to boot from the DVD drive :( Its really
> > annoying me atm, becuase if it did I wouldn't have to try and mess
around
> > with floppy drives :)
> >
> > I'll double check everything again tomorrow, but I've tested booting
from
> > the Recovery CD, as well as a fresh downloaded ISO of Tablet Edition
from
> > MSDN, and neither will boot. It appears as though the Tablet just
ignores
> > the DVD drive on boot, although it does seem to register it is there.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Stuart.
> >
> >
> > "Bernd Helzer" <bhelzer@byu.net> wrote in message
> > news:u%23P5UMDGEHA.2308@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > On my Acer I had to go into the BIOS to make sure I boot from CD
first.
> > Your
> > > machine may have a similiar setting.
> > >
> > > Bernd
> > > "Stuart Mackie [MCP, MSP]" <me@--REMOVE_THIS--stu.uk.com> wrote in
> message
> > > news:eejOqDDGEHA.688@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > > Hi. I am currently trying to reinstall my Tablet but am having some
> > > > problems. The Tablet comes with a manufacturer Recovery CD which
> > appears
> > > to
> > > > have the normal Win XP Tablet edition with some additional tools and
> > > > graphics specific to the OEM. My Tablet doesn't have any CD/DVD
drive
> > or
> > > > Floppy disk built in, so I've purchased an external USB floppy and
> > > external
> > > > USB DVD Drive. Unfortunately the Tablet will not boot from the DVD
> > drive,
> > > > but it does work normally in windows, afrom reading some online
forums
> > > there
> > > > does appear to be compatibility problems with certain drives when
> trying
> > > to
> > > > boot from them. Subsqeuntly I tried using the Win XP Pro boot disks
> but
> > > it
> > > > fails on the last disk. The error is suggesting it can't see the HD
> or
> > a
> > > > removable device. I've checked the supplied remaster disk and there
> is
> > > the
> > > > additional $OEM$\$1 folder but most of the additional files/programs
> > don't
> > > > appear to be related to necessary installation drivers e.g. the only
> sub
> > > > folder is is UTILS and then there are folders containing software
such
> > as
> > > > Modem and Bluetooth programs.
> > > >
> > > > Can anyone suggest what my options are and what I could do to
initate
> > the
> > > > install from Boot disks ? I have tried the install 3 times since
the
> > > errors
> > > > have occurred at different points. I did once make it to the main
> reset
> > > > after the boot disks are finished but then received the same error
> about
> > > not
> > > > being able to find the HD or removable device. I can't work out why
> the
> > > > install doesn't fail at the same point.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Stuart.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Stuart,

I had exactly the same problem with my Acer.

A solution (which works) is to take the hard drive out of the laptop and
connect it to your main PC (if you have one) as a secondary hard drive.

The using a decent tool in Windows (partition magic), partition the hard
drive so that you have a main partition (which will be your C drive) of x
size and a secondary partition of 2GB (where x is the remainder of the space
you have)

If you are following so far you will have a large C: partition and a 2GB D:
partition.

Format both partitions as FAT32. (This is important)

OK, so now, take the files from the Windows XP Tablet Edition (MSDN) and
plonk them onto the D partition.

Put the hard drive back into the laptop.

Boot from floppy to the C drive and type:

D:\I386\Winnt

The XP Tablet Edition setup will initialise.

(You may want to add a line to the config.sys of the boot floppy to include
smartdrive as it speeds the install process up a hell of a lot)

Go through the XP setup process, but make sure you format the first
partition to NTFS before the files are copied (this bit is self explanatory
when you install XP as it asks you if you want to change file structures.)

When XP is installed fully and you can see the desktop, use partition magic
to change the second partition to NTFS too.

Install your drivers / programs etc, and delete the Tablet XP files from the
D: partition.

Make a ghost image (norton ghost) and put it into the clean D: partition.

Then make a boot floppy from the norton ghost installation, and whenever you
need to reinstall the OS you will have an image to call from which will have
all your programs and drivers already installed, and more importantly will
take you arond 10 mins to restore.

You only need to do it once and its a life saver.

Hope this helps

Cheers
Simon

I also forgot to mention in my original post than it won't be any type of CD
so far. I've tried the Recovery CD, an ISO download of Tablet Ednt from
MSDN, and a normal Windows XP Pro CD just to check if it would boot. None
of the three would boot :( Booting from a USB floppy drive works, which
isn't much help, but thought I'd mention it in case it was related to
anything else :)

Thanks,
Stuart.


"Stuart Mackie [MCP, MSP]" <me@--REMOVE_THIS--stu.uk.com> wrote in message
news:%23gAujjEGEHA.2876@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Hi Dennis, thanks for the link. I'm searching as I write this :)
>
> So just to check, you had to add the Sony drivers to the TC1000 recovery
> disk ? Were the drivers for a specific O/S e.g. DOS or XP ?
>
> Thanks for your help,
> Stuart.
>
>
> "Dennis Rice (Tablet MVP)" <drice(at)saliantech.com> wrote in message
> news:e5VUgCEGEHA.700@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > Unfortunately, a lot of the OEM Recovery CD's use proprietary CD drivers
> for
> > their drives, so they will not boot from 3rd party units. I have a Sony
> > MPD-AP20U drive and a TC1000, and had the same problem. I had to make a
> > custom disk 1 of my recovery CD's to make it work. I found instructions
> for
> > this on tabletpcbuzz.com. Do a search for "boot disk" on the forums
there
> > for the same instructions.
> >
> > HTH!
> >
> > Dennis Rice, Tablet MVP
> >
> > "Stuart Mackie [MCP, MSP]" <me@--REMOVE_THIS--stu.uk.com> wrote in
message
> > news:OQW8qRDGEHA.692@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > Hi. I've checked the bios and spoke with the manufacturer and
> > unfortunately
> > > it just doesn't seem to want to boot from the DVD drive :( Its
really
> > > annoying me atm, becuase if it did I wouldn't have to try and mess
> around
> > > with floppy drives :)
> > >
> > > I'll double check everything again tomorrow, but I've tested booting
> from
> > > the Recovery CD, as well as a fresh downloaded ISO of Tablet Edition
> from
> > > MSDN, and neither will boot. It appears as though the Tablet just
> ignores
> > > the DVD drive on boot, although it does seem to register it is there.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Stuart.
> > >
> > >
> > > "Bernd Helzer" <bhelzer@byu.net> wrote in message
> > > news:u%23P5UMDGEHA.2308@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > > On my Acer I had to go into the BIOS to make sure I boot from CD
> first.
> > > Your
> > > > machine may have a similiar setting.
> > > >
> > > > Bernd
> > > > "Stuart Mackie [MCP, MSP]" <me@--REMOVE_THIS--stu.uk.com> wrote in
> > message
> > > > news:eejOqDDGEHA.688@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > > > Hi. I am currently trying to reinstall my Tablet but am having
some
> > > > > problems. The Tablet comes with a manufacturer Recovery CD which
> > > appears
> > > > to
> > > > > have the normal Win XP Tablet edition with some additional tools
and
> > > > > graphics specific to the OEM. My Tablet doesn't have any CD/DVD
> drive
> > > or
> > > > > Floppy disk built in, so I've purchased an external USB floppy and
> > > > external
> > > > > USB DVD Drive. Unfortunately the Tablet will not boot from the
DVD
> > > drive,
> > > > > but it does work normally in windows, afrom reading some online
> forums
> > > > there
> > > > > does appear to be compatibility problems with certain drives when
> > trying
> > > > to
> > > > > boot from them. Subsqeuntly I tried using the Win XP Pro boot
disks
> > but
> > > > it
> > > > > fails on the last disk. The error is suggesting it can't see the
HD
> > or
> > > a
> > > > > removable device. I've checked the supplied remaster disk and
there
> > is
> > > > the
> > > > > additional $OEM$\$1 folder but most of the additional
files/programs
> > > don't
> > > > > appear to be related to necessary installation drivers e.g. the
only
> > sub
> > > > > folder is is UTILS and then there are folders containing software
> such
> > > as
> > > > > Modem and Bluetooth programs.
> > > > >
> > > > > Can anyone suggest what my options are and what I could do to
> initate
> > > the
> > > > > install from Boot disks ? I have tried the install 3 times since
> the
> > > > errors
> > > > > have occurred at different points. I did once make it to the main
> > reset
> > > > > after the boot disks are finished but then received the same error
> > about
> > > > not
> > > > > being able to find the HD or removable device. I can't work out
why
> > the
> > > > > install doesn't fail at the same point.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Stuart.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Stuart.

See my post above this one, believe me it works, I had the same problem as
you.

If you need any assistance with it then drop me a line. (remove spamtrap)

Cheers
Simon

I had the same issues with my 3500. So I booted from a floppy, loaded
dos drivers for my cd drive, and installed the tablet PC from MSDN
from dos mode. If you can boot from the floppy, you should be able to
achieve this. you may need to get with the manufacturer of your drive
to get the dos drivers for it (my manufacturer, Storix, had dos
drivers not only for the usb but also to get it into usb 2.0 mode).

Then I created a second partition, and now I use Acronis True Image to
manage my images and restore as needed for rebuilds.

John

On Fri, 2 Apr 2004 01:58:21 +0100, "Stuart Mackie [MCP, MSP]"
<me@--REMOVE_THIS--stu.uk.com> wrote:

>I also forgot to mention in my original post than it won't be any type of CD
>so far. I've tried the Recovery CD, an ISO download of Tablet Ednt from
>MSDN, and a normal Windows XP Pro CD just to check if it would boot. None
>of the three would boot :( Booting from a USB floppy drive works, which
>isn't much help, but thought I'd mention it in case it was related to
>anything else :)
>
>Thanks,
>Stuart.
>
>
>"Stuart Mackie [MCP, MSP]" <me@--REMOVE_THIS--stu.uk.com> wrote in message
>news:%23gAujjEGEHA.2876@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> Hi Dennis, thanks for the link. I'm searching as I write this :)
>>
>> So just to check, you had to add the Sony drivers to the TC1000 recovery
>> disk ? Were the drivers for a specific O/S e.g. DOS or XP ?
>>
>> Thanks for your help,
>> Stuart.
>>
>>
>> "Dennis Rice (Tablet MVP)" <drice(at)saliantech.com> wrote in message
>> news:e5VUgCEGEHA.700@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> > Unfortunately, a lot of the OEM Recovery CD's use proprietary CD drivers
>> for
>> > their drives, so they will not boot from 3rd party units. I have a Sony
>> > MPD-AP20U drive and a TC1000, and had the same problem. I had to make a
>> > custom disk 1 of my recovery CD's to make it work. I found instructions
>> for
>> > this on tabletpcbuzz.com. Do a search for "boot disk" on the forums
>there
>> > for the same instructions.
>> >
>> > HTH!
>> >
>> > Dennis Rice, Tablet MVP
>> >
>> > "Stuart Mackie [MCP, MSP]" <me@--REMOVE_THIS--stu.uk.com> wrote in
>message
>> > news:OQW8qRDGEHA.692@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> > > Hi. I've checked the bios and spoke with the manufacturer and
>> > unfortunately
>> > > it just doesn't seem to want to boot from the DVD drive :( Its
>really
>> > > annoying me atm, becuase if it did I wouldn't have to try and mess
>> around
>> > > with floppy drives :)
>> > >
>> > > I'll double check everything again tomorrow, but I've tested booting
>> from
>> > > the Recovery CD, as well as a fresh downloaded ISO of Tablet Edition
>> from
>> > > MSDN, and neither will boot. It appears as though the Tablet just
>> ignores
>> > > the DVD drive on boot, although it does seem to register it is there.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks,
>> > > Stuart.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > "Bernd Helzer" <bhelzer@byu.net> wrote in message
>> > > news:u%23P5UMDGEHA.2308@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> > > > On my Acer I had to go into the BIOS to make sure I boot from CD
>> first.
>> > > Your
>> > > > machine may have a similiar setting.
>> > > >
>> > > > Bernd
>> > > > "Stuart Mackie [MCP, MSP]" <me@--REMOVE_THIS--stu.uk.com> wrote in
>> > message
>> > > > news:eejOqDDGEHA.688@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> > > > > Hi. I am currently trying to reinstall my Tablet but am having
>some
>> > > > > problems. The Tablet comes with a manufacturer Recovery CD which
>> > > appears
>> > > > to
>> > > > > have the normal Win XP Tablet edition with some additional tools
>and
>> > > > > graphics specific to the OEM. My Tablet doesn't have any CD/DVD
>> drive
>> > > or
>> > > > > Floppy disk built in, so I've purchased an external USB floppy and
>> > > > external
>> > > > > USB DVD Drive. Unfortunately the Tablet will not boot from the
>DVD
>> > > drive,
>> > > > > but it does work normally in windows, afrom reading some online
>> forums
>> > > > there
>> > > > > does appear to be compatibility problems with certain drives when
>> > trying
>> > > > to
>> > > > > boot from them. Subsqeuntly I tried using the Win XP Pro boot
>disks
>> > but
>> > > > it
>> > > > > fails on the last disk. The error is suggesting it can't see the
>HD
>> > or
>> > > a
>> > > > > removable device. I've checked the supplied remaster disk and
>there
>> > is
>> > > > the
>> > > > > additional $OEM$\$1 folder but most of the additional
>files/programs
>> > > don't
>> > > > > appear to be related to necessary installation drivers e.g. the
>only
>> > sub
>> > > > > folder is is UTILS and then there are folders containing software
>> such
>> > > as
>> > > > > Modem and Bluetooth programs.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Can anyone suggest what my options are and what I could do to
>> initate
>> > > the
>> > > > > install from Boot disks ? I have tried the install 3 times since
>> the
>> > > > errors
>> > > > > have occurred at different points. I did once make it to the main
>> > reset
>> > > > > after the boot disks are finished but then received the same error
>> > about
>> > > > not
>> > > > > being able to find the HD or removable device. I can't work out
>why
>> > the
>> > > > > install doesn't fail at the same point.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Thanks,
>> > > > > Stuart.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>

Hi. Thanks for the suggestion. This sounds a perfect solution as I've just
found out there is definately a compatibility problem with my USB DVD drive
and booting. I didn't think it was possible to install Windows XP from a
DOS boot ?

Thanks,
Stuart.


"JDTHREE [MVP]" <john@removeforspam.engagenet.com> wrote in message
news:qlnp6053las7j9jtm95jnfljttjv3mu9iu@4ax.com...
> I had the same issues with my 3500. So I booted from a floppy, loaded
> dos drivers for my cd drive, and installed the tablet PC from MSDN
> from dos mode. If you can boot from the floppy, you should be able to
> achieve this. you may need to get with the manufacturer of your drive
> to get the dos drivers for it (my manufacturer, Storix, had dos
> drivers not only for the usb but also to get it into usb 2.0 mode).
>
> Then I created a second partition, and now I use Acronis True Image to
> manage my images and restore as needed for rebuilds.
>
> John
>
> On Fri, 2 Apr 2004 01:58:21 +0100, "Stuart Mackie [MCP, MSP]"
> <me@--REMOVE_THIS--stu.uk.com> wrote:
>
> >I also forgot to mention in my original post than it won't be any type of
CD
> >so far. I've tried the Recovery CD, an ISO download of Tablet Ednt from
> >MSDN, and a normal Windows XP Pro CD just to check if it would boot.
None
> >of the three would boot :( Booting from a USB floppy drive works, which
> >isn't much help, but thought I'd mention it in case it was related to
> >anything else :)
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Stuart.
> >
> >
> >"Stuart Mackie [MCP, MSP]" <me@--REMOVE_THIS--stu.uk.com> wrote in
message
> >news:%23gAujjEGEHA.2876@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> >> Hi Dennis, thanks for the link. I'm searching as I write this :)
> >>
> >> So just to check, you had to add the Sony drivers to the TC1000
recovery
> >> disk ? Were the drivers for a specific O/S e.g. DOS or XP ?
> >>
> >> Thanks for your help,
> >> Stuart.
> >>
> >>
> >> "Dennis Rice (Tablet MVP)" <drice(at)saliantech.com> wrote in message
> >> news:e5VUgCEGEHA.700@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> >> > Unfortunately, a lot of the OEM Recovery CD's use proprietary CD
drivers
> >> for
> >> > their drives, so they will not boot from 3rd party units. I have a
Sony
> >> > MPD-AP20U drive and a TC1000, and had the same problem. I had to
make a
> >> > custom disk 1 of my recovery CD's to make it work. I found
instructions
> >> for
> >> > this on tabletpcbuzz.com. Do a search for "boot disk" on the forums
> >there
> >> > for the same instructions.
> >> >
> >> > HTH!
> >> >
> >> > Dennis Rice, Tablet MVP
> >> >
> >> > "Stuart Mackie [MCP, MSP]" <me@--REMOVE_THIS--stu.uk.com> wrote in
> >message
> >> > news:OQW8qRDGEHA.692@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> >> > > Hi. I've checked the bios and spoke with the manufacturer and
> >> > unfortunately
> >> > > it just doesn't seem to want to boot from the DVD drive :( Its
> >really
> >> > > annoying me atm, becuase if it did I wouldn't have to try and mess
> >> around
> >> > > with floppy drives :)
> >> > >
> >> > > I'll double check everything again tomorrow, but I've tested
booting
> >> from
> >> > > the Recovery CD, as well as a fresh downloaded ISO of Tablet
Edition
> >> from
> >> > > MSDN, and neither will boot. It appears as though the Tablet just
> >> ignores
> >> > > the DVD drive on boot, although it does seem to register it is
there.
> >> > >
> >> > > Thanks,
> >> > > Stuart.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > "Bernd Helzer" <bhelzer@byu.net> wrote in message
> >> > > news:u%23P5UMDGEHA.2308@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> >> > > > On my Acer I had to go into the BIOS to make sure I boot from CD
> >> first.
> >> > > Your
> >> > > > machine may have a similiar setting.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Bernd
> >> > > > "Stuart Mackie [MCP, MSP]" <me@--REMOVE_THIS--stu.uk.com> wrote
in
> >> > message
> >> > > > news:eejOqDDGEHA.688@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> >> > > > > Hi. I am currently trying to reinstall my Tablet but am having
> >some
> >> > > > > problems. The Tablet comes with a manufacturer Recovery CD
which
> >> > > appears
> >> > > > to
> >> > > > > have the normal Win XP Tablet edition with some additional
tools
> >and
> >> > > > > graphics specific to the OEM. My Tablet doesn't have any
CD/DVD
> >> drive
> >> > > or
> >> > > > > Floppy disk built in, so I've purchased an external USB floppy
and
> >> > > > external
> >> > > > > USB DVD Drive. Unfortunately the Tablet will not boot from the
> >DVD
> >> > > drive,
> >> > > > > but it does work normally in windows, afrom reading some online
> >> forums
> >> > > > there
> >> > > > > does appear to be compatibility problems with certain drives
when
> >> > trying
> >> > > > to
> >> > > > > boot from them. Subsqeuntly I tried using the Win XP Pro boot
> >disks
> >> > but
> >> > > > it
> >> > > > > fails on the last disk. The error is suggesting it can't see
the
> >HD
> >> > or
> >> > > a
> >> > > > > removable device. I've checked the supplied remaster disk and
> >there
> >> > is
> >> > > > the
> >> > > > > additional $OEM$\$1 folder but most of the additional
> >files/programs
> >> > > don't
> >> > > > > appear to be related to necessary installation drivers e.g. the
> >only
> >> > sub
> >> > > > > folder is is UTILS and then there are folders containing
software
> >> such
> >> > > as
> >> > > > > Modem and Bluetooth programs.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Can anyone suggest what my options are and what I could do to
> >> initate
> >> > > the
> >> > > > > install from Boot disks ? I have tried the install 3 times
since
> >> the
> >> > > > errors
> >> > > > > have occurred at different points. I did once make it to the
main
> >> > reset
> >> > > > > after the boot disks are finished but then received the same
error
> >> > about
> >> > > > not
> >> > > > > being able to find the HD or removable device. I can't work
out
> >why
> >> > the
> >> > > > > install doesn't fail at the same point.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Thanks,
> >> > > > > Stuart.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
>

Hi Simon. Thanks for all your help and write up. After talking again with
the tablet manufacturer and the DVD drive manufacturer, I've been told that
the DVD in fact is the issue. Supposedly the unit does not support booting
which is why I'm having the problems. I'm not sure what to do at the
minute. I'm happy to boot from a floppy and then install from the CD, but I
can't get any boot disks to work. The Windows XP boot disk seems to go
wrong after the 6th disk, and from what I understand it isn't possible to
install XP from a DOS boot. So far I can get the DOS boot to work and see
the CD and floppy drive, but thats about it :)

I might just take the DVD drive back and get a CD drive which is known to be
compatible and work (so far Iomega has been recommended).

Thanks again,
Stuart.


"Simon G" <simon_graves@spamtrapntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:20040401195805.287$g7@news.newsreader.com...
> Stuart,
>
> I had exactly the same problem with my Acer.
>
> A solution (which works) is to take the hard drive out of the laptop and
> connect it to your main PC (if you have one) as a secondary hard drive.
>
> The using a decent tool in Windows (partition magic), partition the hard
> drive so that you have a main partition (which will be your C drive) of x
> size and a secondary partition of 2GB (where x is the remainder of the
space
> you have)
>
> If you are following so far you will have a large C: partition and a 2GB
D:
> partition.
>
> Format both partitions as FAT32. (This is important)
>
> OK, so now, take the files from the Windows XP Tablet Edition (MSDN) and
> plonk them onto the D partition.
>
> Put the hard drive back into the laptop.
>
> Boot from floppy to the C drive and type:
>
> D:\I386\Winnt
>
> The XP Tablet Edition setup will initialise.
>
> (You may want to add a line to the config.sys of the boot floppy to
include
> smartdrive as it speeds the install process up a hell of a lot)
>
> Go through the XP setup process, but make sure you format the first
> partition to NTFS before the files are copied (this bit is self
explanatory
> when you install XP as it asks you if you want to change file structures.)
>
> When XP is installed fully and you can see the desktop, use partition
magic
> to change the second partition to NTFS too.
>
> Install your drivers / programs etc, and delete the Tablet XP files from
the
> D: partition.
>
> Make a ghost image (norton ghost) and put it into the clean D: partition.
>
> Then make a boot floppy from the norton ghost installation, and whenever
you
> need to reinstall the OS you will have an image to call from which will
have
> all your programs and drivers already installed, and more importantly will
> take you arond 10 mins to restore.
>
> You only need to do it once and its a life saver.
>
> Hope this helps
>
> Cheers
> Simon
>
>

Sure is! Had that option for all their 32bit systems since I first
moved to MS network operating systems back with NT 3.5

Once you're booted up with the dos disk, and your cd drivers are
loaded, get on the cd drive, get to the \i386 directory, and type
winnt

It'll start the dos based install - pretty much all the "dos based"
part does is get the files copied to the hard drive, and initialize
the MBR to boot it up from the hard drive. Once that's done, pull the
floppy, wait for it to prompt you for a reboot, and hopefully you'll
be set.

John


On Fri, 2 Apr 2004 12:43:31 +0100, "Stuart Mackie [MCP, MSP]"
<me@--REMOVE_THIS--stu.uk.com> wrote:

>Hi. Thanks for the suggestion. This sounds a perfect solution as I've just
>found out there is definately a compatibility problem with my USB DVD drive
>and booting. I didn't think it was possible to install Windows XP from a
>DOS boot ?
>
>Thanks,
>Stuart.
>
>
>"JDTHREE [MVP]" <john@removeforspam.engagenet.com> wrote in message
>news:qlnp6053las7j9jtm95jnfljttjv3mu9iu@4ax.com.. .
>> I had the same issues with my 3500. So I booted from a floppy, loaded
>> dos drivers for my cd drive, and installed the tablet PC from MSDN
>> from dos mode. If you can boot from the floppy, you should be able to
>> achieve this. you may need to get with the manufacturer of your drive
>> to get the dos drivers for it (my manufacturer, Storix, had dos
>> drivers not only for the usb but also to get it into usb 2.0 mode).
>>
>> Then I created a second partition, and now I use Acronis True Image to
>> manage my images and restore as needed for rebuilds.
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Fri, 2 Apr 2004 01:58:21 +0100, "Stuart Mackie [MCP, MSP]"
>> <me@--REMOVE_THIS--stu.uk.com> wrote:
>>
>> >I also forgot to mention in my original post than it won't be any type of
>CD
>> >so far. I've tried the Recovery CD, an ISO download of Tablet Ednt from
>> >MSDN, and a normal Windows XP Pro CD just to check if it would boot.
>None
>> >of the three would boot :( Booting from a USB floppy drive works, which
>> >isn't much help, but thought I'd mention it in case it was related to
>> >anything else :)
>> >
>> >Thanks,
>> >Stuart.
>> >
>> >
>> >"Stuart Mackie [MCP, MSP]" <me@--REMOVE_THIS--stu.uk.com> wrote in
>message
>> >news:%23gAujjEGEHA.2876@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> >> Hi Dennis, thanks for the link. I'm searching as I write this :)
>> >>
>> >> So just to check, you had to add the Sony drivers to the TC1000
>recovery
>> >> disk ? Were the drivers for a specific O/S e.g. DOS or XP ?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for your help,
>> >> Stuart.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Dennis Rice (Tablet MVP)" <drice(at)saliantech.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:e5VUgCEGEHA.700@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> >> > Unfortunately, a lot of the OEM Recovery CD's use proprietary CD
>drivers
>> >> for
>> >> > their drives, so they will not boot from 3rd party units. I have a
>Sony
>> >> > MPD-AP20U drive and a TC1000, and had the same problem. I had to
>make a
>> >> > custom disk 1 of my recovery CD's to make it work. I found
>instructions
>> >> for
>> >> > this on tabletpcbuzz.com. Do a search for "boot disk" on the forums
>> >there
>> >> > for the same instructions.
>> >> >
>> >> > HTH!
>> >> >
>> >> > Dennis Rice, Tablet MVP
>> >> >
>> >> > "Stuart Mackie [MCP, MSP]" <me@--REMOVE_THIS--stu.uk.com> wrote in
>> >message
>> >> > news:OQW8qRDGEHA.692@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> >> > > Hi. I've checked the bios and spoke with the manufacturer and
>> >> > unfortunately
>> >> > > it just doesn't seem to want to boot from the DVD drive :( Its
>> >really
>> >> > > annoying me atm, becuase if it did I wouldn't have to try and mess
>> >> around
>> >> > > with floppy drives :)
>> >> > >
>> >> > > I'll double check everything again tomorrow, but I've tested
>booting
>> >> from
>> >> > > the Recovery CD, as well as a fresh downloaded ISO of Tablet
>Edition
>> >> from
>> >> > > MSDN, and neither will boot. It appears as though the Tablet just
>> >> ignores
>> >> > > the DVD drive on boot, although it does seem to register it is
>there.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Thanks,
>> >> > > Stuart.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > "Bernd Helzer" <bhelzer@byu.net> wrote in message
>> >> > > news:u%23P5UMDGEHA.2308@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> >> > > > On my Acer I had to go into the BIOS to make sure I boot from CD
>> >> first.
>> >> > > Your
>> >> > > > machine may have a similiar setting.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Bernd
>> >> > > > "Stuart Mackie [MCP, MSP]" <me@--REMOVE_THIS--stu.uk.com> wrote
>in
>> >> > message
>> >> > > > news:eejOqDDGEHA.688@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> >> > > > > Hi. I am currently trying to reinstall my Tablet but am having
>> >some
>> >> > > > > problems. The Tablet comes with a manufacturer Recovery CD
>which
>> >> > > appears
>> >> > > > to
>> >> > > > > have the normal Win XP Tablet edition with some additional
>tools
>> >and
>> >> > > > > graphics specific to the OEM. My Tablet doesn't have any
>CD/DVD
>> >> drive
>> >> > > or
>> >> > > > > Floppy disk built in, so I've purchased an external USB floppy
>and
>> >> > > > external
>> >> > > > > USB DVD Drive. Unfortunately the Tablet will not boot from the
>> >DVD
>> >> > > drive,
>> >> > > > > but it does work normally in windows, afrom reading some online
>> >> forums
>> >> > > > there
>> >> > > > > does appear to be compatibility problems with certain drives
>when
>> >> > trying
>> >> > > > to
>> >> > > > > boot from them. Subsqeuntly I tried using the Win XP Pro boot
>> >disks
>> >> > but
>> >> > > > it
>> >> > > > > fails on the last disk. The error is suggesting it can't see
>the
>> >HD
>> >> > or
>> >> > > a
>> >> > > > > removable device. I've checked the supplied remaster disk and
>> >there
>> >> > is
>> >> > > > the
>> >> > > > > additional $OEM$\$1 folder but most of the additional
>> >files/programs
>> >> > > don't
>> >> > > > > appear to be related to necessary installation drivers e.g. the
>> >only
>> >> > sub
>> >> > > > > folder is is UTILS and then there are folders containing
>software
>> >> such
>> >> > > as
>> >> > > > > Modem and Bluetooth programs.
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > Can anyone suggest what my options are and what I could do to
>> >>