Since the July 10 updates, tabtip.exe will crash at first use and will not
run at all afterward. Two consecutive error reports are sent to MS with each
crash. The exception code is 0xc0000005 at Offset 10370. App Ver:
1.7.2600.2663, Mod Ver 5.1.2600.2180, ModName ntdll.dll.

I tried System Restore to move back prior to July 10, but still have the
problem. The surrogate keyboard still works (it appears only at Windows
login screen for entering password), but it is useless for handwriting even
though it can be started manually.
The computer is Acer C110, and I have two of them, but the other did not
have the problem; however it has very little software installed on it. I did
copy all of the /ink folder over from it to make sure that there was no
corrupt files on the failing system.

There was a failure in applying a security update on July 10 to the .NET
Framework, but .NET was removed and reinstalled and only one other update to
..NET Framework continues to fail to install. This is probably not related to
the tabtip.exe failure but wanted to mention it.

Tabtip.exe is a critical piece of software even though I have a keyboard to
use as an alternative.

It may very well be related to the .NET problem because tabtip.exe is a .NET
application.

Anything in the event log about why .NET refuses to install? Usually when
you get errors like that from Windows Update they are pretty useless. But if
you download .NET 1.1 redistributable and run it, it will usually give you a
better error message.

Josh



"TxLeo" <TxLeo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:9A561BCD-6F6F-47C1-A630-04F6EE5B00BF@microsoft.com...
> Since the July 10 updates, tabtip.exe will crash at first use and will not
> run at all afterward. Two consecutive error reports are sent to MS with
> each
> crash. The exception code is 0xc0000005 at Offset 10370. App Ver:
> 1.7.2600.2663, Mod Ver 5.1.2600.2180, ModName ntdll.dll.
>
> I tried System Restore to move back prior to July 10, but still have the
> problem. The surrogate keyboard still works (it appears only at Windows
> login screen for entering password), but it is useless for handwriting
> even
> though it can be started manually.
> The computer is Acer C110, and I have two of them, but the other did not
> have the problem; however it has very little software installed on it. I
> did
> copy all of the /ink folder over from it to make sure that there was no
> corrupt files on the failing system.
>
> There was a failure in applying a security update on July 10 to the .NET
> Framework, but .NET was removed and reinstalled and only one other update
> to
> .NET Framework continues to fail to install. This is probably not related
> to
> the tabtip.exe failure but wanted to mention it.
>
> Tabtip.exe is a critical piece of software even though I have a keyboard
> to
> use as an alternative.

I was not aware that tabtip was a .NET appl.

After I removed and reinstalled the .NET 1.1 redistributable (yes it was
reinstalled from the download) the Windows Update web site said I needed
KB930494, so I let it start ....
"Installing Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework, Version 1.0
Service Pack 3 (KB930494)" However it never completes (ran for 2 hours at
near 100% user CPU) and its "Cancel" would not work, so I eventually forced
it down using Task Manager. It produced no error messages. I tried allowing
the Automatic Update function to apply it, but same problem. Then I tried
the update when shutting down to see if quiescing Windows would help...
Windows said applying update 1 of 1, but never shut down, so I assume this
update (KB930494) is flawed and I have now isolated it.

"Josh Einstein" wrote:

> It may very well be related to the .NET problem because tabtip.exe is a .NET
> application.
>
> Anything in the event log about why .NET refuses to install? Usually when
> you get errors like that from Windows Update they are pretty useless. But if
> you download .NET 1.1 redistributable and run it, it will usually give you a
> better error message.
>
> Josh
>
>
>
> "TxLeo" <TxLeo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:9A561BCD-6F6F-47C1-A630-04F6EE5B00BF@microsoft.com...
> > Since the July 10 updates, tabtip.exe will crash at first use and will not
> > run at all afterward. Two consecutive error reports are sent to MS with
> > each
> > crash. The exception code is 0xc0000005 at Offset 10370. App Ver:
> > 1.7.2600.2663, Mod Ver 5.1.2600.2180, ModName ntdll.dll.
> >
> > I tried System Restore to move back prior to July 10, but still have the
> > problem. The surrogate keyboard still works (it appears only at Windows
> > login screen for entering password), but it is useless for handwriting
> > even
> > though it can be started manually.
> > The computer is Acer C110, and I have two of them, but the other did not
> > have the problem; however it has very little software installed on it. I
> > did
> > copy all of the /ink folder over from it to make sure that there was no
> > corrupt files on the failing system.
> >
> > There was a failure in applying a security update on July 10 to the .NET
> > Framework, but .NET was removed and reinstalled and only one other update
> > to
> > .NET Framework continues to fail to install. This is probably not related
> > to
> > the tabtip.exe failure but wanted to mention it.
> >
> > Tabtip.exe is a critical piece of software even though I have a keyboard
> > to
> > use as an alternative.
>

All the .NET problems are now resolved.. even KB930494 .NET 1.0 hotfix
installed once I figured out to install it before the 1.1 SP1 was
reinstalled. All the .NET updates are now installed.

The tabtip.exe still crashes. I do have the clearink.bat and tried it to
kill and restart tabtip and tcserver. All this does is to allow it to crash
again.

Is there any way to reinstall tablet edition 2005? My computer had the 2002
edition originally and was upgraded with SP2.

Leo


"Josh Einstein" wrote:

> It may very well be related to the .NET problem because tabtip.exe is a .NET
> application.
>
> Anything in the event log about why .NET refuses to install? Usually when
> you get errors like that from Windows Update they are pretty useless. But if
> you download .NET 1.1 redistributable and run it, it will usually give you a
> better error message.
>
> Josh
>
>
>
> "TxLeo" <TxLeo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:9A561BCD-6F6F-47C1-A630-04F6EE5B00BF@microsoft.com...
> > Since the July 10 updates, tabtip.exe will crash at first use and will not
> > run at all afterward. Two consecutive error reports are sent to MS with
> > each
> > crash. The exception code is 0xc0000005 at Offset 10370. App Ver:
> > 1.7.2600.2663, Mod Ver 5.1.2600.2180, ModName ntdll.dll.
> >
> > I tried System Restore to move back prior to July 10, but still have the
> > problem. The surrogate keyboard still works (it appears only at Windows
> > login screen for entering password), but it is useless for handwriting
> > even
> > though it can be started manually.
> > The computer is Acer C110, and I have two of them, but the other did not
> > have the problem; however it has very little software installed on it. I
> > did
> > copy all of the /ink folder over from it to make sure that there was no
> > corrupt files on the failing system.
> >
> > There was a failure in applying a security update on July 10 to the .NET
> > Framework, but .NET was removed and reinstalled and only one other update
> > to
> > .NET Framework continues to fail to install. This is probably not related
> > to
> > the tabtip.exe failure but wanted to mention it.
> >
> > Tabtip.exe is a critical piece of software even though I have a keyboard
> > to
> > use as an alternative.
>

Leo and Josh,

I am having the same problem with TabTip.exe crashing. I have removed
all versions of .net (1.1, 2.0 and 3) and am reinstalling
dotnetfx3.exe right now. So far I have not seen any change in the
behavior of TabTip. Any help short of a full reinstall of Windows XP
Tablet Edition would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Chris

On Aug 28, 9:07 am, new.connecti...******.com wrote:
> Leo and Josh,
>
> I am having the same problem with TabTip.exe crashing. I have removed
> all versions of .net (1.1, 2.0 and 3) and am reinstalling
> dotnetfx3.exe right now. So far I have not seen any change in the
> behavior of TabTip. Any help short of a full reinstall of Windows XP
> Tablet Edition would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Chris

I finished reinstalling .net 3.0 (which included .net 2.0, but not
1.1) but nothing changed. As a temporary solution I am running
SpeedScript XP Beta (<a href="http://jkontherun.blogs.com/jkontherun/
2007/06/free-speedscrip.html">download here</a>).

Chris

On Aug 28, 9:07 am, new.connecti...******.com wrote:
> Leo and Josh,
>
> I am having the same problem with TabTip.exe crashing. I have removed
> all versions of .net (1.1, 2.0 and 3) and am reinstalling
> dotnetfx3.exe right now. So far I have not seen any change in the
> behavior of TabTip. Any help short of a full reinstall of Windows XP
> Tablet Edition would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Chris

I finished reinstalling .net 3.0 (which included .net 2.0, but not
1.1) and nothing changed. As a temporary solution I am running
SpeedScript XP Beta.

http://jkontherun.blogs.com/jkonther...peedscrip.html

Chris

Unfortunately, debugging the crash would require some knowledge of windows
debugging techniques (such as using WinDbg) and even that won't fully reveal
the problem without source code.

My comment about .NET possibly being related wasn't necessarily a suggestion
that this was the problem, rather just a comment in response to the original
poster mentioning that the .NET Framework install was also crashing. I was
simply saying that because the TIP does use the .NET Framework that one
could certainly be related to the other.

--
Josh Einstein (Tablet PC MVP)
Einstein Technologies
Tablet Enhancements for Outlook - Try it free: www.tabletoutlook.com

<new.connections******.com> wrote in message
news:1188306471.178225.173020@22g2000hsm.googlegro ups.com...
> Leo and Josh,
>
> I am having the same problem with TabTip.exe crashing. I have removed
> all versions of .net (1.1, 2.0 and 3) and am reinstalling
> dotnetfx3.exe right now. So far I have not seen any change in the
> behavior of TabTip. Any help short of a full reinstall of Windows XP
> Tablet Edition would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Chris
>
>
>

"Josh Einstein" wrote:

> Unfortunately, debugging the crash would require some knowledge of windows
> debugging techniques (such as using WinDbg) and even that won't fully reveal
> the problem without source code.
>
> My comment about .NET possibly being related wasn't necessarily a suggestion
> that this was the problem, rather just a comment in response to the original
> poster mentioning that the .NET Framework install was also crashing. I was
> simply saying that because the TIP does use the .NET Framework that one
> could certainly be related to the other.
>
> --
> Josh Einstein (Tablet PC MVP)
> Einstein Technologies
> Tablet Enhancements for Outlook - Try it free: www.tabletoutlook.com
>
> <new.connections******.com> wrote in message
> news:1188306471.178225.173020@22g2000hsm.googlegro ups.com...
> > Leo and Josh,
> >
> > I am having the same problem with TabTip.exe crashing. I have removed
> > all versions of .net (1.1, 2.0 and 3) and am reinstalling
> > dotnetfx3.exe right now. So far I have not seen any change in the
> > behavior of TabTip. Any help short of a full reinstall of Windows XP
> > Tablet Edition would be appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Chris
> >
> >
> >
>
>>>I have noticed the same behavior with the input panel crashing the first time I attempt to use it. The only thing I've done lately that might have affected it was to upgrade to Office 2007. I wonder if that might be the problem?

Thanks,

Kmajik

On Oct 2, 1:27 pm, KMajik <KMa...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> "Josh Einstein" wrote:
> > Unfortunately, debugging the crash would require some knowledge of windows
> > debugging techniques (such as using WinDbg) and even that won't fully reveal
> > the problem without source code.
>
> > My comment about .NET possibly being related wasn't necessarily a suggestion
> > that this was the problem, rather just a comment in response to the original
> > poster mentioning that the .NET Framework install was also crashing. I was
> > simply saying that because the TIP does use the .NET Framework that one
> > could certainly be related to the other.
>
> > --
> > Josh Einstein (Tablet PC MVP)
> > Einstein Technologies
> > Tablet Enhancements for Outlook - Try it free:www.tabletoutlook.com
>
> > <new.connecti...******.com> wrote in message
> >news:1188306471.178225.173020@22g2000hsm.googlegr oups.com...
> > > Leo and Josh,
>
> > > I am having the same problem with TabTip.exe crashing. I have removed
> > > all versions of .net (1.1, 2.0 and 3) and am reinstalling
> > > dotnetfx3.exe right now. So far I have not seen any change in the
> > > behavior of TabTip. Any help short of a full reinstall of Windows XP
> > > Tablet Edition would be appreciated.
>
> > > Thanks,
> > > Chris
>
> >>>I have noticed the same behavior with the input panel crashing the first time I attempt to use it. The only thing I've done lately that might have affected it was to upgrade to Office 2007. I wonder if that might be the problem?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kmajik

I am running Office 2003 and have never had Office 2007 on this
machine. That is not what caused my problem. I still cannot use
TabTip and have not found any solution to this problem. I guess I'll
be reinstalling soon.

Chris

I am having the same problem: tabtip.exe crashes as soon as I start using it.
When not in tablet mode the problem does not occur. Everything used to be
fine until a ran updates recently.

"TxLeo" wrote:

> Since the July 10 updates, tabtip.exe will crash at first use and will not
> run at all afterward. Two consecutive error reports are sent to MS with each
> crash. The exception code is 0xc0000005 at Offset 10370. App Ver:
> 1.7.2600.2663, Mod Ver 5.1.2600.2180, ModName ntdll.dll.
>
> I tried System Restore to move back prior to July 10, but still have the
> problem. The surrogate keyboard still works (it appears only at Windows
> login screen for entering password), but it is useless for handwriting even
> though it can be started manually.
> The computer is Acer C110, and I have two of them, but the other did not
> have the problem; however it has very little software installed on it. I did
> copy all of the /ink folder over from it to make sure that there was no
> corrupt files on the failing system.
>
> There was a failure in applying a security update on July 10 to the .NET
> Framework, but .NET was removed and reinstalled and only one other update to
> .NET Framework continues to fail to install. This is probably not related to
> the tabtip.exe failure but wanted to mention it.
>
> Tabtip.exe is a critical piece of software even though I have a keyboard to
> use as an alternative.