Does anyone know of a convenient way to display a single journal
document on multiple displays, but with different pages visible on
each display?

I've been a tablet pc user for a few years now. I'm a graduate
student in a math-heavy field, and I've pretty much stopped using
anything but my tablet for doing written work. In many ways digital
ink is far more convenient than paper, but one big disadvantage is the
ability to look at many pieces of a document at the same time. For me
this is the most inconvenient when doing some large algebraic
calculation. You often need to compare a particular step with a
previous one in the document and needing to scroll up and down doesn't
work so well. Particularly if you are comparing to a step much
earlier in the document.

I haven't been able to come up with a convenient way to solve this
problem. I can span a single window across two monitors in 2 page
view, but this is inflexible as to which second page is viewable with
respect to the first one. Journal does not allow you to open two
instances of the same file, so I can't solve my problem that way
either.

Any ideas?

Justin, the only workaround I can think of is to do a "save as" on the
original file with a slightly different name (like adding a '1' to the
name). This would allow you the option of opening 2 different files that
are identical - one on each monitor - so you can bring up whichever page
you'd like on the second monitor.
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Terri Stratton
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"Justin" <justin.carstens******.com> wrote in message
news:1182358580.334353.286730@w5g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
> Does anyone know of a convenient way to display a single journal
> document on multiple displays, but with different pages visible on
> each display?
>
> I've been a tablet pc user for a few years now. I'm a graduate
> student in a math-heavy field, and I've pretty much stopped using
> anything but my tablet for doing written work. In many ways digital
> ink is far more convenient than paper, but one big disadvantage is the
> ability to look at many pieces of a document at the same time. For me
> this is the most inconvenient when doing some large algebraic
> calculation. You often need to compare a particular step with a
> previous one in the document and needing to scroll up and down doesn't
> work so well. Particularly if you are comparing to a step much
> earlier in the document.
>
> I haven't been able to come up with a convenient way to solve this
> problem. I can span a single window across two monitors in 2 page
> view, but this is inflexible as to which second page is viewable with
> respect to the first one. Journal does not allow you to open two
> instances of the same file, so I can't solve my problem that way
> either.
>
> Any ideas?
>

If you have OneNote, you can open OneNote in one window, then open a new
SIDE NOTE in the other window. Do your work in the side note while
being able to check out the notes you have already created in the other
window. I just did that and it worked fine.

I hope this helps!

Paul Turner

Justin wrote:
> Does anyone know of a convenient way to display a single journal
> document on multiple displays, but with different pages visible on
> each display?
>
> I've been a tablet pc user for a few years now. I'm a graduate
> student in a math-heavy field, and I've pretty much stopped using
> anything but my tablet for doing written work. In many ways digital
> ink is far more convenient than paper, but one big disadvantage is the
> ability to look at many pieces of a document at the same time. For me
> this is the most inconvenient when doing some large algebraic
> calculation. You often need to compare a particular step with a
> previous one in the document and needing to scroll up and down doesn't
> work so well. Particularly if you are comparing to a step much
> earlier in the document.
>
> I haven't been able to come up with a convenient way to solve this
> problem. I can span a single window across two monitors in 2 page
> view, but this is inflexible as to which second page is viewable with
> respect to the first one. Journal does not allow you to open two
> instances of the same file, so I can't solve my problem that way
> either.
>
> Any ideas?
>

You might also try marking the file (or perhaps document properties in
journal?) as "read only" to see if that would allow multiple access.

You can also "print to" a windows journal file which would allow you to
print a specific page which will open it up in journal automatically.
(let me know if this works)

Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]

In article <137kprd84fig1d2@corp.supernews.com>, ptgizmo******.com
says...
> If you have OneNote, you can open OneNote in one window, then open a new
> SIDE NOTE in the other window. Do your work in the side note while
> being able to check out the notes you have already created in the other
> window. I just did that and it worked fine.
>
Actually, there is no reason to open a SIDE NOTE for this. All you have
to do is press ctrl-m and open a duplicate window in OneNote. You can
then work on the page on one monitor and look at another part on the
second monitor. Some people have problems with this. I have a tablet and
desktop with OneNote sync'd between them. I can open the same page on
both machines. Anything I do to the page on one machine gets sync'd to
the other one within seconds.

Unfortunately, like Justin, I have found that Journal is much better for
doing math than OneNote.

In article <1182358580.334353.286730@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups. com>,
justin.carstens******.com says...
> Does anyone know of a convenient way to display a single journal
> document on multiple displays, but with different pages visible on
> each display?

There is really no software (other than OneNote with some trickery) that
will do this. If you ask me, it is the next big feature that needs to be
added to all software. (Microsoft are you listening?) More and more
people are getting second and third monitors, or really gigantic monitors
with room for lots of open windows. In order to be really productive,
users need to be able to refer to any other document while working on the
current one, including other parts of the current document. Some programs
allow you to split the screen to view different parts of the document at
the same time, but only horizontally (with the parts above and below each
other) and always within the same window.

The next generation of all software really needs to be able to split the
document into two separate windows that can be moved to two separate
monitors. Simply allowing the user to open the same document twice (with
one as read-only) will NOT be good enough. Each window MUST automatically
update when changes are made to the other. However, the user's location
within each window must remain stable. Changing something in one window
should not cause any other window to scroll to a different location. That
would drive people nuts. Finally, if necessary, users should be able to
open an unlimited number of extra windows for the same document. Then you
could work on the Table of Contents, the body of the document, and the
Index at the same time.

For you, Justin, the best solution is probably to create that separate,
temporary document, as suggested by Terri, and just keep closing it and
re-saving over it to update it. Just remember, when you use Save As then
the current document is now the one with the new name. If I have a
document called MATH.jnt and I use Save As to save it as MATH1.jnt then
work on that document some more, I will be editing MATH1.jnt rather than
MATH.jnt. Just check in the title bar to make sure you are editing the
document you think you are.

A quick trick is to use Save As to save under the new temporary name.
Then go to { File / Recently Used Notes } to reopen the original
document. Journal will open that original document in another window so
you will now have both open. I'm sure after a while you will get used to
it.

Yet another option (if all this isn't all one gigantic math problem) is
to move all of your important reference information into OneNote and keep
that OneNote page open on the second monitor or separate PC.

Thanks for your suggestions. I tried the save a second file method as
Terri/Grant suggested. This works OK, but not nearly as clean as
using OneNote. I downloaded the onenote trial to see how it worked,
and as far as the dual monitor functionality works, I really like it.
I'm not a big fan of how the "pages" work in onenote so far though,
but I haven't really gotten a good chance to try it out yet (no
homework/big problems to work on =) ). I went ahead and got myself a
license though. It only cost $12 through the university =).

Its really too bad this functionality isn't available in all software
as Grant suggested. I can't count the number of times I'd wished for
similar functionality in Word or Excel.