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Old 01-02-2007, 10:29 AM
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Which version support dual core or quad core?

Which version of Windows Vista support dual core cpu? Is there any
which support quad core cpu?
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Re: Which version support dual core or quad core?

churin wrote:
> Which version of Windows Vista support dual core cpu? Is there any
> which support quad core cpu?


All versions of Vista support a dual core processor. Same for quad core.
Home Basic and Home Premium only support a single processor socket, but that
can be a single multi-core processor in that socket. Business, Enterprise
and Ultimate support two processor sockets, again that could be a multi-core
processor in each socket.
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Re: Which version support dual core or quad core?

My 2 cents,

In summary, cores in CPUs is designed to be independent to OS, and it's just
how much the applications (including OS) can take advantages of its
processing power.

"Tom Porterfield" <tpporter@mvps.org> wrote in message
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> churin wrote:
>> Which version of Windows Vista support dual core cpu? Is there any
>> which support quad core cpu?

>
> All versions of Vista support a dual core processor. Same for quad core.
> Home Basic and Home Premium only support a single processor socket, but
> that can be a single multi-core processor in that socket. Business,
> Enterprise and Ultimate support two processor sockets, again that could be
> a multi-core processor in each socket.
> --
> Tom Porterfield



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Re: Which version support dual core or quad core?

Sorry, I replied to wrong person.


"Tom Porterfield" <tpporter@mvps.org> wrote in message
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> churin wrote:
>> Which version of Windows Vista support dual core cpu? Is there any
>> which support quad core cpu?

>
> All versions of Vista support a dual core processor. Same for quad core.
> Home Basic and Home Premium only support a single processor socket, but
> that can be a single multi-core processor in that socket. Business,
> Enterprise and Ultimate support two processor sockets, again that could be
> a multi-core processor in each socket.
> --
> Tom Porterfield



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Re: Which version support dual core or quad core?

Another interpretation is that the each cpu is a physical processor and each
core is a logical processor. You can see the logical processors on the
Performance Tab in Task Manager. There will be a CPU Usage History graph
for each logical processor.

Home editions can be installed on boards with one physical processor.
Business editions can be installed on boards with one or two physical
processors. Boards with more physical processors require one of the Server
editions.

Hyperthreading doubles the number of logical processors so an Intel P4 with
hyperthreading enabled appears exactly the same as an Intel Core Duo, Core 2
Duo, or AMD64 x2 on the Performance Tab.

All editions of XP, Vista, and Server work the same in this regard.

"xfile" <cou-cou@remove.nospam.com> wrote in message
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> My 2 cents,
>
> In summary, cores in CPUs is designed to be independent to OS, and it's
> just how much the applications (including OS) can take advantages of its
> processing power.
>
> "Tom Porterfield" <tpporter@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:uz8Tq4WFHHA.5000@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> churin wrote:
>>> Which version of Windows Vista support dual core cpu? Is there any
>>> which support quad core cpu?

>>
>> All versions of Vista support a dual core processor. Same for quad core.
>> Home Basic and Home Premium only support a single processor socket, but
>> that can be a single multi-core processor in that socket. Business,
>> Enterprise and Ultimate support two processor sockets, again that could
>> be a multi-core processor in each socket.
>> --
>> Tom Porterfield

>
>



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Re: Which version support dual core or quad core?

Hi,

Thanks and exactly as you mentioned, but here is one thing that I don't
know:

> Home editions can be installed on boards with one physical processor.
> Business editions can be installed on boards with one or two physical
> processors.


Is above bound to license or is by design of the software?

I don't know much about the architectures of Vista, XP, or even Win3.1 for
that matter :)

"Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com> wrote in message
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> Another interpretation is that the each cpu is a physical processor and
> each core is a logical processor. You can see the logical processors on
> the Performance Tab in Task Manager. There will be a CPU Usage History
> graph for each logical processor.
>
> Home editions can be installed on boards with one physical processor.
> Business editions can be installed on boards with one or two physical
> processors. Boards with more physical processors require one of the
> Server editions.
>
> Hyperthreading doubles the number of logical processors so an Intel P4
> with hyperthreading enabled appears exactly the same as an Intel Core Duo,
> Core 2 Duo, or AMD64 x2 on the Performance Tab.
>
> All editions of XP, Vista, and Server work the same in this regard.
>
> "xfile" <cou-cou@remove.nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:%23DS4GGXFHHA.1248@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> My 2 cents,
>>
>> In summary, cores in CPUs is designed to be independent to OS, and it's
>> just how much the applications (including OS) can take advantages of its
>> processing power.
>>
>> "Tom Porterfield" <tpporter@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:uz8Tq4WFHHA.5000@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> churin wrote:
>>>> Which version of Windows Vista support dual core cpu? Is there any
>>>> which support quad core cpu?
>>>
>>> All versions of Vista support a dual core processor. Same for quad
>>> core. Home Basic and Home Premium only support a single processor
>>> socket, but that can be a single multi-core processor in that socket.
>>> Business, Enterprise and Ultimate support two processor sockets, again
>>> that could be a multi-core processor in each socket.
>>> --
>>> Tom Porterfield

>>
>>

>
>



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Re: Which version support dual core or quad core?

Its the design of the software.


"xfile" <cou-cou@remove.nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> Thanks and exactly as you mentioned, but here is one thing that I don't
> know:
>
>> Home editions can be installed on boards with one physical processor.
>> Business editions can be installed on boards with one or two physical
>> processors.

>
> Is above bound to license or is by design of the software?
>
> I don't know much about the architectures of Vista, XP, or even Win3.1 for
> that matter :)
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:%23ex1$PXFHHA.2464@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Another interpretation is that the each cpu is a physical processor and
>> each core is a logical processor. You can see the logical processors on
>> the Performance Tab in Task Manager. There will be a CPU Usage History
>> graph for each logical processor.
>>
>> Home editions can be installed on boards with one physical processor.
>> Business editions can be installed on boards with one or two physical
>> processors. Boards with more physical processors require one of the
>> Server editions.
>>
>> Hyperthreading doubles the number of logical processors so an Intel P4
>> with hyperthreading enabled appears exactly the same as an Intel Core
>> Duo, Core 2 Duo, or AMD64 x2 on the Performance Tab.
>>
>> All editions of XP, Vista, and Server work the same in this regard.
>>
>> "xfile" <cou-cou@remove.nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23DS4GGXFHHA.1248@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> My 2 cents,
>>>
>>> In summary, cores in CPUs is designed to be independent to OS, and it's
>>> just how much the applications (including OS) can take advantages of its
>>> processing power.
>>>
>>> "Tom Porterfield" <tpporter@mvps.org> wrote in message
>>> news:uz8Tq4WFHHA.5000@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> churin wrote:
>>>>> Which version of Windows Vista support dual core cpu? Is there any
>>>>> which support quad core cpu?
>>>>
>>>> All versions of Vista support a dual core processor. Same for quad
>>>> core. Home Basic and Home Premium only support a single processor
>>>> socket, but that can be a single multi-core processor in that socket.
>>>> Business, Enterprise and Ultimate support two processor sockets, again
>>>> that could be a multi-core processor in each socket.
>>>> --
>>>> Tom Porterfield
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
>



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Re: Which version support dual core or quad core?

By the way, I shall rephrase the question so it may be more clear:

By design means, it can't be installed and used on a board with two physical
CPUs, whilst, it can be installed and used except it violates the license.


"xfile" <cou-cou@remove.nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> Thanks and exactly as you mentioned, but here is one thing that I don't
> know:
>
>> Home editions can be installed on boards with one physical processor.
>> Business editions can be installed on boards with one or two physical
>> processors.

>
> Is above bound to license or is by design of the software?
>
> I don't know much about the architectures of Vista, XP, or even Win3.1 for
> that matter :)
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:%23ex1$PXFHHA.2464@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Another interpretation is that the each cpu is a physical processor and
>> each core is a logical processor. You can see the logical processors on
>> the Performance Tab in Task Manager. There will be a CPU Usage History
>> graph for each logical processor.
>>
>> Home editions can be installed on boards with one physical processor.
>> Business editions can be installed on boards with one or two physical
>> processors. Boards with more physical processors require one of the
>> Server editions.
>>
>> Hyperthreading doubles the number of logical processors so an Intel P4
>> with hyperthreading enabled appears exactly the same as an Intel Core
>> Duo, Core 2 Duo, or AMD64 x2 on the Performance Tab.
>>
>> All editions of XP, Vista, and Server work the same in this regard.
>>
>> "xfile" <cou-cou@remove.nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23DS4GGXFHHA.1248@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> My 2 cents,
>>>
>>> In summary, cores in CPUs is designed to be independent to OS, and it's
>>> just how much the applications (including OS) can take advantages of its
>>> processing power.
>>>
>>> "Tom Porterfield" <tpporter@mvps.org> wrote in message
>>> news:uz8Tq4WFHHA.5000@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> churin wrote:
>>>>> Which version of Windows Vista support dual core cpu? Is there any
>>>>> which support quad core cpu?
>>>>
>>>> All versions of Vista support a dual core processor. Same for quad
>>>> core. Home Basic and Home Premium only support a single processor
>>>> socket, but that can be a single multi-core processor in that socket.
>>>> Business, Enterprise and Ultimate support two processor sockets, again
>>>> that could be a multi-core processor in each socket.
>>>> --
>>>> Tom Porterfield
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
>



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Old 01-02-2007, 10:30 AM
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Re: Which version support dual core or quad core?

"xfile" <cou-cou@remove.nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> Thanks and exactly as you mentioned, but here is one thing that I
> don't know:
>
>> Home editions can be installed on boards with one physical
>> processor. Business editions can be installed on boards with one or
>> two physical processors.

>
> Is above bound to license or is by design of the software?
>
> I don't know much about the architectures of Vista, XP, or even
> Win3.1 for that matter :)
>


It is limited by both software AND the license.
So even if the product was not limited you would still be in breach of
the license.

--

Mike Brannigan

"xfile" <cou-cou@remove.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:u7yMNWXFHHA.420@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Hi,
>
> Thanks and exactly as you mentioned, but here is one thing that I
> don't know:
>
>> Home editions can be installed on boards with one physical
>> processor. Business editions can be installed on boards with one or
>> two physical processors.

>
> Is above bound to license or is by design of the software?
>
> I don't know much about the architectures of Vista, XP, or even
> Win3.1 for that matter :)
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:%23ex1$PXFHHA.2464@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Another interpretation is that the each cpu is a physical processor
>> and each core is a logical processor. You can see the logical
>> processors on the Performance Tab in Task Manager. There will be a
>> CPU Usage History graph for each logical processor.
>>
>> Home editions can be installed on boards with one physical
>> processor. Business editions can be installed on boards with one or
>> two physical processors. Boards with more physical processors
>> require one of the Server editions.
>>
>> Hyperthreading doubles the number of logical processors so an Intel
>> P4 with hyperthreading enabled appears exactly the same as an Intel
>> Core Duo, Core 2 Duo, or AMD64 x2 on the Performance Tab.
>>
>> All editions of XP, Vista, and Server work the same in this regard.
>>
>> "xfile" <cou-cou@remove.nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23DS4GGXFHHA.1248@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> My 2 cents,
>>>
>>> In summary, cores in CPUs is designed to be independent to OS, and
>>> it's just how much the applications (including OS) can take
>>> advantages of its processing power.
>>>
>>> "Tom Porterfield" <tpporter@mvps.org> wrote in message
>>> news:uz8Tq4WFHHA.5000@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> churin wrote:
>>>>> Which version of Windows Vista support dual core cpu? Is there
>>>>> any
>>>>> which support quad core cpu?
>>>>
>>>> All versions of Vista support a dual core processor. Same for
>>>> quad core. Home Basic and Home Premium only support a single
>>>> processor socket, but that can be a single multi-core processor
>>>> in that socket. Business, Enterprise and Ultimate support two
>>>> processor sockets, again that could be a multi-core processor in
>>>> each socket.
>>>> --
>>>> Tom Porterfield
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
>



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Re: Which version support dual core or quad core?

"Mike Brannigan" <Mike.Brannigan@localhost> wrote in message
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> It is limited by both software AND the license.
> So even if the product was not limited you would still be in breach of the
> license.


So will it not install? Or install and just not use the extra processors?

Mike

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Re: Which version support dual core or quad core?

"xfile" <cou-cou@remove.nospam.com> wrote in message
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> By the way, I shall rephrase the question so it may be more clear:
>
> By design means, it can't be installed and used on a board with two
> physical CPUs, whilst, it can be installed and used except it
> violates the license.
>
>


No it can be installed on a board with many (Physical CPU packages)
processors but only one will be used.
The software will remain operational.

--

Mike Brannigan


> "xfile" <cou-cou@remove.nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:u7yMNWXFHHA.420@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Hi,
>>
>> Thanks and exactly as you mentioned, but here is one thing that I
>> don't know:
>>
>>> Home editions can be installed on boards with one physical
>>> processor. Business editions can be installed on boards with one
>>> or two physical processors.

>>
>> Is above bound to license or is by design of the software?
>>
>> I don't know much about the architectures of Vista, XP, or even
>> Win3.1 for that matter :)
>>
>> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23ex1$PXFHHA.2464@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> Another interpretation is that the each cpu is a physical
>>> processor and each core is a logical processor. You can see the
>>> logical processors on the Performance Tab in Task Manager. There
>>> will be a CPU Usage History graph for each logical processor.
>>>
>>> Home editions can be installed on boards with one physical
>>> processor. Business editions can be installed on boards with one
>>> or two physical processors. Boards with more physical processors
>>> require one of the Server editions.
>>>
>>> Hyperthreading doubles the number of logical processors so an
>>> Intel P4 with hyperthreading enabled appears exactly the same as
>>> an Intel Core Duo, Core 2 Duo, or AMD64 x2 on the Performance Tab.
>>>
>>> All editions of XP, Vista, and Server work the same in this
>>> regard.
>>>
>>> "xfile" <cou-cou@remove.nospam.com> wrote in message
>>> news:%23DS4GGXFHHA.1248@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> My 2 cents,
>>>>
>>>> In summary, cores in CPUs is designed to be independent to OS,
>>>> and it's just how much the applications (including OS) can take
>>>> advantages of its processing power.
>>>>
>>>> "Tom Porterfield" <tpporter@mvps.org> wrote in message
>>>> news:uz8Tq4WFHHA.5000@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>> churin wrote:
>>>>>> Which version of Windows Vista support dual core cpu? Is there
>>>>>> any
>>>>>> which support quad core cpu?
>>>>>
>>>>> All versions of Vista support a dual core processor. Same for
>>>>> quad core. Home Basic and Home Premium only support a single
>>>>> processor socket, but that can be a single multi-core processor
>>>>> in that socket. Business, Enterprise and Ultimate support two
>>>>> processor sockets, again that could be a multi-core processor in
>>>>> each socket.
>>>>> --
>>>>> Tom Porterfield
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
>



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Re: Which version support dual core or quad core?

"Mike" <no@where.man> wrote in message
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> "Mike Brannigan" <Mike.Brannigan@localhost> wrote in message
> news:eCQrsdXFHHA.4652@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> It is limited by both software AND the license.
>> So even if the product was not limited you would still be in breach
>> of the license.

>
> So will it not install? Or install and just not use the extra
> processors?
>
> Mike



It will install and only use one on board processor package
(irrespective of number of Cores).

--

Mike Brannigan

"Mike" <no@where.man> wrote in message
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> "Mike Brannigan" <Mike.Brannigan@localhost> wrote in message
> news:eCQrsdXFHHA.4652@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> It is limited by both software AND the license.
>> So even if the product was not limited you would still be in breach
>> of the license.

>
> So will it not install? Or install and just not use the extra
> processors?
>
> Mike
>



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Re: Which version support dual core or quad core?

"Mike Brannigan" <Mike.Brannigan@localhost> wrote in message
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> "Mike" <no@where.man> wrote in message
> news:eaVI3fXFHHA.420@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> "Mike Brannigan" <Mike.Brannigan@localhost> wrote in message
>> news:eCQrsdXFHHA.4652@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> It is limited by both software AND the license.
>>> So even if the product was not limited you would still be in breach of
>>> the license.

>>
>> So will it not install? Or install and just not use the extra
>> processors?
>>
>> Mike

>
>
> It will install and only use one on board processor package (irrespective
> of number of Cores).


OK. Thanks for the clarification.

Mike

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Re: Which version support dual core or quad core?

xfile wrote:
> By the way, I shall rephrase the question so it may be more clear:
>
> By design means, it can't be installed and used on a board with two
> physical CPUs, whilst, it can be installed and used except it
> violates the license.


What Mike said.

It's an "artificial" software restriction to support a licence condition.
Effectively a bit of code somewhere says "If operating system edition = home
edition of some kind, only support one CPU socket".


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Thanks :)

"Robert Moir" <robspamtrap******.com> wrote in message
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> xfile wrote:
>> By the way, I shall rephrase the question so it may be more clear:
>>
>> By design means, it can't be installed and used on a board with two
>> physical CPUs, whilst, it can be installed and used except it
>> violates the license.

>
> What Mike said.
>
> It's an "artificial" software restriction to support a licence condition.
> Effectively a bit of code somewhere says "If operating system edition =
> home edition of some kind, only support one CPU socket".
>



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