No glass = black screen + bubbles
Glass = bubbles on top of whatever is currently on the display

Doesn't this sort of defeat the purpose of a screen saver?

Screensavers in general are just complete waste of time and computer
resources.
--
Andre
Blog: [url]http://adacosta.spaces.live.com[/url]
My Vista Quickstart Guide:
[url]http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!E8E5CC039D51E3DB!9709.entry[/url]
"Mickey Lane" <none@none.com> wrote in message
news:OVPx6jLEHHA.4740@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> No glass = black screen + bubbles
> Glass = bubbles on top of whatever is currently on the display
>
> Doesn't this sort of defeat the purpose of a screen saver?
>[/color]

Not much chance of screen burn these days
"Andre Da Costa [ActiveWin]" <andre@activewin.com> wrote in message
news:4EE2F6F2-8B2E-438F-A660-02D8F7EA20C8@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> Screensavers in general are just complete waste of time and computer
> resources.
> --
> Andre
> Blog: [url]http://adacosta.spaces.live.com[/url]
> My Vista Quickstart Guide:
> [url]http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!E8E5CC039D51E3DB!9709.entry[/url]
> "Mickey Lane" <none@none.com> wrote in message
> news:OVPx6jLEHHA.4740@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> No glass = black screen + bubbles
>> Glass = bubbles on top of whatever is currently on the display
>>
>> Doesn't this sort of defeat the purpose of a screen saver?
>>[/color]
>
>[/color]

Since the bubbles change both the color and location of the pixels slightly
as they pass over, they pretty much do the same as any other screen saver
would. I don't use any screen savers myself, I blank the screen after 15
minutes and save electricity as well as the screen. :-)

"Mickey Lane" <none@none.com> wrote in message
news:OVPx6jLEHHA.4740@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> No glass = black screen + bubbles
> Glass = bubbles on top of whatever is currently on the display
>
> Doesn't this sort of defeat the purpose of a screen saver?
>[/color]

Not true, my system BSODed while I was shutting down. I walked away from my
computer and went to sleep, when I saw it the next morning, damage was done.
;)
-Cullen Dudas

"Hillbilly" <william_hill@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:u8fpLtLEHHA.4132@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Not much chance of screen burn these days
> "Andre Da Costa [ActiveWin]" <andre@activewin.com> wrote in message
> news:4EE2F6F2-8B2E-438F-A660-02D8F7EA20C8@microsoft.com...[color=green]
>> Screensavers in general are just complete waste of time and computer
>> resources.
>> --
>> Andre
>> Blog: [url]http://adacosta.spaces.live.com[/url]
>> My Vista Quickstart Guide:
>> [url]http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!E8E5CC039D51E3DB!9709.entry[/url]
>> "Mickey Lane" <none@none.com> wrote in message
>> news:OVPx6jLEHHA.4740@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> No glass = black screen + bubbles
>>> Glass = bubbles on top of whatever is currently on the display
>>>
>>> Doesn't this sort of defeat the purpose of a screen saver?
>>>[/color]
>>
>>[/color]
>
>[/color]

"Richard G. Harper" <rgharper******.com> wrote in message
news:eCDrcLNEHHA.4280@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Since the bubbles change both the color and location of the pixels
> slightly as they pass over, they pretty much do the same as any
> other screen saver would. I don't use any screen savers myself, I
> blank the screen after 15 minutes and save electricity as well as
> the screen. :-)[/color]

Note that the power saving only applies to CRT monitors. LCD panels
are lit up all the time, and a blank screen doesn't save any power.
With LCD you need to have it enter power saving mode where the
flourescent backlight is turned off.
[color=blue]
> "Mickey Lane" <none@none.com> wrote in message
> news:OVPx6jLEHHA.4740@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> No glass = black screen + bubbles
>> Glass = bubbles on top of whatever is currently on the display
>>
>> Doesn't this sort of defeat the purpose of a screen saver?[/color][/color]

Not really. The phosphorus in CRT tubes made today have a relatively
short persistence, so they don't easily suffer from burn-in. Unless
you leave the contrast at maximum and with the same window open all
the time (24/7), you generally don't have to worry.

The bubbles on top of the windows does help slightly with an extreme
contrast situation as the bubbles cause the phosphorus to react as the
bubbles float around the screen, preventing burn-in.

Personally, I just use the default saver with a 30 minute power saving
mode for the times I go out or get busy with other activities and
forget to shut off the LCD monitor (my computer is crunching 24/7 so I
just turn off the monitor when not in use).

The only bad cases of burn-in I've seen are in very old POS (point of sale
:) ) cash register computers. They will run the same program their entire
life, and therefore the words and lines are left on the screen.

Robert Firth

"Bill" <bill@c.a> wrote in message
news:9dydnf5DQqM9KfXYnZ2dnUVZ_omdnZ2d@golden.net...[color=blue]
> "Richard G. Harper" <rgharper******.com> wrote in message
> news:eCDrcLNEHHA.4280@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> Since the bubbles change both the color and location of the pixels
>> slightly as they pass over, they pretty much do the same as any other
>> screen saver would. I don't use any screen savers myself, I blank the
>> screen after 15 minutes and save electricity as well as the screen. :-)[/color]
>
> Note that the power saving only applies to CRT monitors. LCD panels are
> lit up all the time, and a blank screen doesn't save any power. With LCD
> you need to have it enter power saving mode where the flourescent
> backlight is turned off.
>[color=green]
>> "Mickey Lane" <none@none.com> wrote in message
>> news:OVPx6jLEHHA.4740@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> No glass = black screen + bubbles
>>> Glass = bubbles on top of whatever is currently on the display
>>>
>>> Doesn't this sort of defeat the purpose of a screen saver?[/color][/color]
>
> Not really. The phosphorus in CRT tubes made today have a relatively short
> persistence, so they don't easily suffer from burn-in. Unless you leave
> the contrast at maximum and with the same window open all the time (24/7),
> you generally don't have to worry.
>
> The bubbles on top of the windows does help slightly with an extreme
> contrast situation as the bubbles cause the phosphorus to react as the
> bubbles float around the screen, preventing burn-in.
>
> Personally, I just use the default saver with a 30 minute power saving
> mode for the times I go out or get busy with other activities and forget
> to shut off the LCD monitor (my computer is crunching 24/7 so I just turn
> off the monitor when not in use).
>[/color]

Yes, you can turn off the monitor after a set period. I use the blank
screensaver after 2 min and turn off after 15 personally

"Bill" <bill@c.a> wrote in message
news:9dydnf5DQqM9KfXYnZ2dnUVZ_omdnZ2d@golden.net...[color=blue]
> "Richard G. Harper" <rgharper******.com> wrote in message
> news:eCDrcLNEHHA.4280@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> Since the bubbles change both the color and location of the pixels
>> slightly as they pass over, they pretty much do the same as any other
>> screen saver would. I don't use any screen savers myself, I blank the
>> screen after 15 minutes and save electricity as well as the screen. :-)[/color]
>
> Note that the power saving only applies to CRT monitors. LCD panels are
> lit up all the time, and a blank screen doesn't save any power. With LCD
> you need to have it enter power saving mode where the flourescent
> backlight is turned off.
>[color=green]
>> "Mickey Lane" <none@none.com> wrote in message
>> news:OVPx6jLEHHA.4740@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> No glass = black screen + bubbles
>>> Glass = bubbles on top of whatever is currently on the display
>>>
>>> Doesn't this sort of defeat the purpose of a screen saver?[/color][/color]
>
> Not really. The phosphorus in CRT tubes made today have a relatively short
> persistence, so they don't easily suffer from burn-in. Unless you leave
> the contrast at maximum and with the same window open all the time (24/7),
> you generally don't have to worry.
>
> The bubbles on top of the windows does help slightly with an extreme
> contrast situation as the bubbles cause the phosphorus to react as the
> bubbles float around the screen, preventing burn-in.
>
> Personally, I just use the default saver with a 30 minute power saving
> mode for the times I go out or get busy with other activities and forget
> to shut off the LCD monitor (my computer is crunching 24/7 so I just turn
> off the monitor when not in use).
>[/color]

If by "purpose" you mean that of saving your screen, that's one thing. If
on the other hand you mean protecting the privacy of what you have on your
desktop, then no - on this system with Glass, when the SS kicks in with
bubbles, it's just bubbles over the wallpaper, you can't see all the windows
I have open.

We use our screensavers more for privacy than anything else - they somewhat
protect against users forgetting to lock their desktop when they walk away.

Rich

"Mickey Lane" <none@none.com> wrote in message
news:OVPx6jLEHHA.4740@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> No glass = black screen + bubbles
> Glass = bubbles on top of whatever is currently on the display
>
> Doesn't this sort of defeat the purpose of a screen saver?
>[/color]

I'm reading this news group with RTM Vista's 'Windows Mail' and if I leave
it long enough, I see bubbles bouncing around over the text of your message.
Or whatever window is current...

Touch the mouse and the only thing that changes is the bubbles go away.


"Rich Milburn [MVP]" <richdotmilburn@applebeesdot.com> wrote in message
news:354C823E-F825-4642-A790-442B6BBCAFCC@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> If by "purpose" you mean that of saving your screen, that's one thing. If
> on the other hand you mean protecting the privacy of what you have on your
> desktop, then no - on this system with Glass, when the SS kicks in with
> bubbles, it's just bubbles over the wallpaper, you can't see all the
> windows I have open.
>
> We use our screensavers more for privacy than anything else - they
> somewhat protect against users forgetting to lock their desktop when they
> walk away.
>
> Rich
>
> "Mickey Lane" <none@none.com> wrote in message
> news:OVPx6jLEHHA.4740@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> No glass = black screen + bubbles
>> Glass = bubbles on top of whatever is currently on the display
>>
>> Doesn't this sort of defeat the purpose of a screen saver?
>>[/color]
>[/color]