Apparently no one will be able to buy VISTA Ultimate for christmas. I just
built a new computer, so buying another PC just to get VISTA is not an
option. Why doesn't microsoft let people download and pay for RTM right
here, right now? It seems like they would make a ton of money, and make lots
of people deleriously happy. I have $400.00 just burning a hole in my
pocket. DO NOT miss out on the holiday season! Its all about pleasing the
consumer right when possible right? Please, make our dreams come true!
VISTA ultimate for Christmas! It would save money on having to box it and
put it on DISC on so on, and so forth! My idea does have some merit!

----------------
This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this
link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
click "I Agree" in the message pane.

[url]http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.mspx?mid=966ba522-0bd9-42a5-be72-59f028c5ce39&dg=microsoft.public.windows.vista.general[/url]

>DO NOT miss out on the holiday season! Its all about pleasing the[color=blue]
>consumer right when possible right?[/color]

No.... it's all about Jesus Christ...

--



"Jon Acord" <JOn@theacords.biz> wrote in message
news:966BA522-0BD9-42A5-BE72-59F028C5CE39@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> Apparently no one will be able to buy VISTA Ultimate for christmas. I
> just
> built a new computer, so buying another PC just to get VISTA is not an
> option. Why doesn't microsoft let people download and pay for RTM right
> here, right now? It seems like they would make a ton of money, and make
> lots
> of people deleriously happy. I have $400.00 just burning a hole in my
> pocket. DO NOT miss out on the holiday season! Its all about pleasing
> the
> consumer right when possible right? Please, make our dreams come true!
> VISTA ultimate for Christmas! It would save money on having to box it and
> put it on DISC on so on, and so forth! My idea does have some merit!
>
> ----------------
> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
> this
> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>
> [url]http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.mspx?mid=966ba522-0bd9-42a5-be72-59f028c5ce39&dg=microsoft.public.windows.vista.general[/url]
>[/color]

[color=blue]
> [snip] I have $400.00 just burning a hole in my
> pocket. DO NOT miss out on the holiday season![/color]

You can send it to me. I can spend it without worrying about Vista.
And when you have them in your pocket again, Vista is in the stores.

"Jon Acord" <JOn@theacords.biz> wrote in message
news:966BA522-0BD9-42A5-BE72-59F028C5CE39@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> Apparently no one will be able to buy VISTA Ultimate for christmas. I
> just
> built a new computer, so buying another PC just to get VISTA is not an
> option. Why doesn't microsoft let people download and pay for RTM right
> here, right now? It seems like they would make a ton of money, and make
> lots
> of people deleriously happy. I have $400.00 just burning a hole in my
> pocket. DO NOT miss out on the holiday season! Its all about pleasing
> the
> consumer right when possible right? Please, make our dreams come true!
> VISTA ultimate for Christmas! It would save money on having to box it and
> put it on DISC on so on, and so forth! My idea does have some merit!
>
> ----------------
> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
> this
> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>
> [url]http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.mspx?mid=966ba522-0bd9-42a5-be72-59f028c5ce39&dg=microsoft.public.windows.vista.general[/url][/color]



This is one of the only things I have heard you state that has a bit of
merit. A "bit", mind you.

Unfortunately, I don't thing there is a server farm in existence that could
handle the crush. Microsoft is experiencing problems now with the relatively
few (by comparison) people who want to download from the MSDN website.

Then there is the internet backbone itself. Could the internet stand up to
the massive flow of traffic. How about the smaller ISP's whose equipment
would go into meltdown from the massive flow of bits.

Would YOU be happy when the first, second and maybe the third download is
corrupted and you have to do it over, yet again. From what I gather from
your previous rants I don't think that you are the type of person who would
accept that which is not under anyone's control.

And I know what you are going to say. Microsoft should only offer it this
way to the CPP participants, right?


--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

Richard: My previous rants? Now that statement is unfair. As we discussed
previously, *yawn*, CPP participants contributed as much as anyone else. And
yet, those of us who faithfully submitted bugs, were not rewarded with even a
discount coupon, much less a free copy. I was invited by microsoft to
participate in the CPP. I never Just went and downloaded it because I saw
it. Here is an actual copy and paste from one of the numerous e-mails
microsoft sent to me: QUOTE: Thank you for participating in the Windows
Vista Customer Preview Program. Customer feedback is an integral part of our
development process and your continued support is very important to help us
improve the overall quality of Windows Vista. That aside, it would be great
if PC enthusiasts were able to buy a copy of VISTA ultimate for Christmas.
"Richard Urban" wrote:
[color=blue]
> "Jon Acord" <JOn@theacords.biz> wrote in message
> news:966BA522-0BD9-42A5-BE72-59F028C5CE39@microsoft.com...[color=green]
> > Apparently no one will be able to buy VISTA Ultimate for christmas. I
> > just
> > built a new computer, so buying another PC just to get VISTA is not an
> > option. Why doesn't microsoft let people download and pay for RTM right
> > here, right now? It seems like they would make a ton of money, and make
> > lots
> > of people deleriously happy. I have $400.00 just burning a hole in my
> > pocket. DO NOT miss out on the holiday season! Its all about pleasing
> > the
> > consumer right when possible right? Please, make our dreams come true!
> > VISTA ultimate for Christmas! It would save money on having to box it and
> > put it on DISC on so on, and so forth! My idea does have some merit!
> >
> > ----------------
> > This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
> > suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
> > Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
> > this
> > link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
> > click "I Agree" in the message pane.
> >
> > [url]http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.mspx?mid=966ba522-0bd9-42a5-be72-59f028c5ce39&dg=microsoft.public.windows.vista.general[/url][/color]
>
>
>
> This is one of the only things I have heard you state that has a bit of
> merit. A "bit", mind you.
>
> Unfortunately, I don't thing there is a server farm in existence that could
> handle the crush. Microsoft is experiencing problems now with the relatively
> few (by comparison) people who want to download from the MSDN website.
>
> Then there is the internet backbone itself. Could the internet stand up to
> the massive flow of traffic. How about the smaller ISP's whose equipment
> would go into meltdown from the massive flow of bits.
>
> Would YOU be happy when the first, second and maybe the third download is
> corrupted and you have to do it over, yet again. From what I gather from
> your previous rants I don't think that you are the type of person who would
> accept that which is not under anyone's control.
>
> And I know what you are going to say. Microsoft should only offer it this
> way to the CPP participants, right?
>
>
> --
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard Urban
> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>
> Quote from George Ankner:
> If you knew as much as you think you know,
> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>
>[/color]

"Jon Acord" <JOn@theacords.biz> wrote in message
news:72B671EE-2AD4-456E-8BFE-0DE300772501@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
>
> Richard: My previous rants? Now that statement is unfair. As we
> discussed
> previously, *yawn*, CPP participants contributed as much as anyone else.
> And
> yet, those of us who faithfully submitted bugs, were not rewarded with
> even a
> discount coupon, much less a free copy. I was invited by microsoft to
> participate in the CPP. I never Just went and downloaded it because I saw
> it. Here is an actual copy and paste from one of the numerous e-mails
> microsoft sent to me: QUOTE: Thank you for participating in the Windows
> Vista Customer Preview Program. Customer feedback is an integral part of
> our
> development process and your continued support is very important to help
> us
> improve the overall quality of Windows Vista. That aside, it would be
> great
> if PC enthusiasts were able to buy a copy of VISTA ultimate for Christmas.
> "Richard Urban" wrote:
>[color=green]
>> "Jon Acord" <JOn@theacords.biz> wrote in message
>> news:966BA522-0BD9-42A5-BE72-59F028C5CE39@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
>> > Apparently no one will be able to buy VISTA Ultimate for christmas. I
>> > just
>> > built a new computer, so buying another PC just to get VISTA is not an
>> > option. Why doesn't microsoft let people download and pay for RTM
>> > right
>> > here, right now? It seems like they would make a ton of money, and
>> > make
>> > lots
>> > of people deleriously happy. I have $400.00 just burning a hole in my
>> > pocket. DO NOT miss out on the holiday season! Its all about
>> > pleasing
>> > the
>> > consumer right when possible right? Please, make our dreams come true!
>> > VISTA ultimate for Christmas! It would save money on having to box it
>> > and
>> > put it on DISC on so on, and so forth! My idea does have some merit!
>> >
>> > ----------------
>> > This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
>> > suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the
>> > "I
>> > Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
>> > this
>> > link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and
>> > then
>> > click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>> >
>> > [url]http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.mspx?mid=966ba522-0bd9-42a5-be72-59f028c5ce39&dg=microsoft.public.windows.vista.general[/url][/color]
>>
>>
>>
>> This is one of the only things I have heard you state that has a bit of
>> merit. A "bit", mind you.
>>
>> Unfortunately, I don't thing there is a server farm in existence that
>> could
>> handle the crush. Microsoft is experiencing problems now with the
>> relatively
>> few (by comparison) people who want to download from the MSDN website.
>>
>> Then there is the internet backbone itself. Could the internet stand up
>> to
>> the massive flow of traffic. How about the smaller ISP's whose equipment
>> would go into meltdown from the massive flow of bits.
>>
>> Would YOU be happy when the first, second and maybe the third download is
>> corrupted and you have to do it over, yet again. From what I gather from
>> your previous rants I don't think that you are the type of person who
>> would
>> accept that which is not under anyone's control.
>>
>> And I know what you are going to say. Microsoft should only offer it this
>> way to the CPP participants, right?
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Richard Urban
>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>>
>> Quote from George Ankner:
>> If you knew as much as you think you know,
>> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>>
>>[/color][/color]



Again, you are talking about the CPP technical enthusiasts.


--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

:) Good response!

Robert Firth


"Charlie" <charlie@ease.biz> wrote in message
news:12m696nr00j9ec3@corp.supernews.com...[color=blue][color=green]
> >DO NOT miss out on the holiday season! Its all about pleasing the
>>consumer right when possible right?[/color]
>
> No.... it's all about Jesus Christ...
>
> --
>
>
>
> "Jon Acord" <JOn@theacords.biz> wrote in message
> news:966BA522-0BD9-42A5-BE72-59F028C5CE39@microsoft.com...[color=green]
>> Apparently no one will be able to buy VISTA Ultimate for christmas. I
>> just
>> built a new computer, so buying another PC just to get VISTA is not an
>> option. Why doesn't microsoft let people download and pay for RTM right
>> here, right now? It seems like they would make a ton of money, and make
>> lots
>> of people deleriously happy. I have $400.00 just burning a hole in my
>> pocket. DO NOT miss out on the holiday season! Its all about pleasing
>> the
>> consumer right when possible right? Please, make our dreams come true!
>> VISTA ultimate for Christmas! It would save money on having to box it
>> and
>> put it on DISC on so on, and so forth! My idea does have some merit!
>>
>> ----------------
>> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
>> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the
>> "I
>> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
>> this
>> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and
>> then
>> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>>
>> [url]http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.mspx?mid=966ba522-0bd9-42a5-be72-59f028c5ce39&dg=microsoft.public.windows.vista.general[/url]
>>[/color]
>
>[/color]

Richard Urban wrote:[color=blue]
> "Jon Acord" <JOn@theacords.biz> wrote in message
> news:966BA522-0BD9-42A5-BE72-59F028C5CE39@microsoft.com...[color=green]
>> Apparently no one will be able to buy VISTA Ultimate for christmas. I
>> just
>> built a new computer, so buying another PC just to get VISTA is not an
>> option. Why doesn't microsoft let people download and pay for RTM right
>> here, right now? It seems like they would make a ton of money, and
>> make lots
>> of people deleriously happy. I have $400.00 just burning a hole in my
>> pocket. DO NOT miss out on the holiday season! Its all about
>> pleasing the
>> consumer right when possible right? Please, make our dreams come true!
>> VISTA ultimate for Christmas! It would save money on having to box it
>> and
>> put it on DISC on so on, and so forth! My idea does have some merit!
>>
>> ----------------
>> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
>> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click
>> the "I
>> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button,
>> follow this
>> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and
>> then
>> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>>
>> [url]http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.mspx?mid=966ba522-0bd9-42a5-be72-59f028c5ce39&dg=microsoft.public.windows.vista.general[/url]
>>[/color]
>
>
>
> This is one of the only things I have heard you state that has a bit of
> merit. A "bit", mind you.
>
> Unfortunately, I don't thing there is a server farm in existence that
> could handle the crush. Microsoft is experiencing problems now with the
> relatively few (by comparison) people who want to download from the MSDN
> website.
>
> Then there is the internet backbone itself. Could the internet stand up
> to the massive flow of traffic. How about the smaller ISP's whose
> equipment would go into meltdown from the massive flow of bits.
>
> Would YOU be happy when the first, second and maybe the third download
> is corrupted and you have to do it over, yet again. From what I gather
> from your previous rants I don't think that you are the type of person
> who would accept that which is not under anyone's control.
>
> And I know what you are going to say. Microsoft should only offer it
> this way to the CPP participants, right?
>
>[/color]

.......or bittorrent with an offical link from MS site.
software = free, product key = charge £xxx for.

im sure the majority of us only want vista for the OS, and not for the
pretty packaging that adds on £20-30UKP or so.

agree with the net meltdown! net would just die as we know it, although
to be fair, alot of people are in the situation where they can download
1 copy, and can then use that across 2-5 other pc's in their house (each
with their own purchased key). same goes for businesses. 1 download,
migrate that to their own personal servers and roll out locally from
their own servers, with a VLA key.

tim

Supposedly there will be a trial version available for download on December
1st that will allow you to use it until you are able to purchase and
activate it with a product key. So most of us should have Vista for
Christmas.

-Mike

"Gernot Frisch" <Me@Privacy.net> wrote in message
news:4sgmvaFvk4s1U1@mid.individual.net...[color=blue]
>[color=green]
>> [snip] I have $400.00 just burning a hole in my
>> pocket. DO NOT miss out on the holiday season![/color]
>
> You can send it to me. I can spend it without worrying about Vista. And
> when you have them in your pocket again, Vista is in the stores.
>[/color]

I'm a CPP participant, and while I do think we deserve some kind of reward
such as a reduced price *if* you have reported several quality bug reports
(at least 10 throughout your involvement) as well as getting on the CPP very
early (I signed up in March even though I couldn't get Vista until June), I
do not feel we should get it for free although it would be nice. The reason
being is this. What did we pay to test Vista? At most, $10 for having the
DVDs of RC1 and Beta 2 both shipped. The people at MSDN that pay hundreds
if not more for a subscription should have that right, however.
Furthermore, if MS were ever that nice to give a CPP participant a free copy
of Vista, I would also take the time to send them a letter thanking them for
it. That might encourage them to do things like that more often.
"Jon Acord" <JOn@theacords.biz> wrote in message
news:72B671EE-2AD4-456E-8BFE-0DE300772501@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
>
> Richard: My previous rants? Now that statement is unfair. As we
> discussed
> previously, *yawn*, CPP participants contributed as much as anyone else.
> And
> yet, those of us who faithfully submitted bugs, were not rewarded with
> even a
> discount coupon, much less a free copy. I was invited by microsoft to
> participate in the CPP. I never Just went and downloaded it because I saw
> it. Here is an actual copy and paste from one of the numerous e-mails
> microsoft sent to me: QUOTE: Thank you for participating in the Windows
> Vista Customer Preview Program. Customer feedback is an integral part of
> our
> development process and your continued support is very important to help
> us
> improve the overall quality of Windows Vista. That aside, it would be
> great
> if PC enthusiasts were able to buy a copy of VISTA ultimate for Christmas.
> "Richard Urban" wrote:
>[color=green]
>> "Jon Acord" <JOn@theacords.biz> wrote in message
>> news:966BA522-0BD9-42A5-BE72-59F028C5CE39@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
>> > Apparently no one will be able to buy VISTA Ultimate for christmas. I
>> > just
>> > built a new computer, so buying another PC just to get VISTA is not an
>> > option. Why doesn't microsoft let people download and pay for RTM
>> > right
>> > here, right now? It seems like they would make a ton of money, and
>> > make
>> > lots
>> > of people deleriously happy. I have $400.00 just burning a hole in my
>> > pocket. DO NOT miss out on the holiday season! Its all about
>> > pleasing
>> > the
>> > consumer right when possible right? Please, make our dreams come true!
>> > VISTA ultimate for Christmas! It would save money on having to box it
>> > and
>> > put it on DISC on so on, and so forth! My idea does have some merit!
>> >
>> > ----------------
>> > This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
>> > suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the
>> > "I
>> > Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
>> > this
>> > link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and
>> > then
>> > click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>> >
>> > [url]http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.mspx?mid=966ba522-0bd9-42a5-be72-59f028c5ce39&dg=microsoft.public.windows.vista.general[/url][/color]
>>
>>
>>
>> This is one of the only things I have heard you state that has a bit of
>> merit. A "bit", mind you.
>>
>> Unfortunately, I don't thing there is a server farm in existence that
>> could
>> handle the crush. Microsoft is experiencing problems now with the
>> relatively
>> few (by comparison) people who want to download from the MSDN website.
>>
>> Then there is the internet backbone itself. Could the internet stand up
>> to
>> the massive flow of traffic. How about the smaller ISP's whose equipment
>> would go into meltdown from the massive flow of bits.
>>
>> Would YOU be happy when the first, second and maybe the third download is
>> corrupted and you have to do it over, yet again. From what I gather from
>> your previous rants I don't think that you are the type of person who
>> would
>> accept that which is not under anyone's control.
>>
>> And I know what you are going to say. Microsoft should only offer it this
>> way to the CPP participants, right?
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Richard Urban
>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>>
>> Quote from George Ankner:
>> If you knew as much as you think you know,
>> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>>
>>[/color][/color]

Nicely put, Travis. So nice to see someome writing rationally about this
whole thing.

Lang

"Travis King" <Anonymous@none.com> wrote in message
news:%23$sKqebDHHA.3396@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> I'm a CPP participant, and while I do think we deserve some kind of reward
> such as a reduced price *if* you have reported several quality bug reports
> (at least 10 throughout your involvement) as well as getting on the CPP
> very early (I signed up in March even though I couldn't get Vista until
> June), I do not feel we should get it for free although it would be nice.
> The reason being is this. What did we pay to test Vista? At most, $10
> for having the DVDs of RC1 and Beta 2 both shipped. The people at MSDN
> that pay hundreds if not more for a subscription should have that right,
> however. Furthermore, if MS were ever that nice to give a CPP participant
> a free copy of Vista, I would also take the time to send them a letter
> thanking them for it. That might encourage them to do things like that
> more often.
> "Jon Acord" <JOn@theacords.biz> wrote in message
> news:72B671EE-2AD4-456E-8BFE-0DE300772501@microsoft.com...[color=green]
>>
>> Richard: My previous rants? Now that statement is unfair. As we
>> discussed
>> previously, *yawn*, CPP participants contributed as much as anyone else.
>> And
>> yet, those of us who faithfully submitted bugs, were not rewarded with
>> even a
>> discount coupon, much less a free copy. I was invited by microsoft to
>> participate in the CPP. I never Just went and downloaded it because I
>> saw
>> it. Here is an actual copy and paste from one of the numerous e-mails
>> microsoft sent to me: QUOTE: Thank you for participating in the Windows
>> Vista Customer Preview Program. Customer feedback is an integral part of
>> our
>> development process and your continued support is very important to help
>> us
>> improve the overall quality of Windows Vista. That aside, it would be
>> great
>> if PC enthusiasts were able to buy a copy of VISTA ultimate for
>> Christmas.
>> "Richard Urban" wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> "Jon Acord" <JOn@theacords.biz> wrote in message
>>> news:966BA522-0BD9-42A5-BE72-59F028C5CE39@microsoft.com...
>>> > Apparently no one will be able to buy VISTA Ultimate for christmas. I
>>> > just
>>> > built a new computer, so buying another PC just to get VISTA is not an
>>> > option. Why doesn't microsoft let people download and pay for RTM
>>> > right
>>> > here, right now? It seems like they would make a ton of money, and
>>> > make
>>> > lots
>>> > of people deleriously happy. I have $400.00 just burning a hole in my
>>> > pocket. DO NOT miss out on the holiday season! Its all about
>>> > pleasing
>>> > the
>>> > consumer right when possible right? Please, make our dreams come
>>> > true!
>>> > VISTA ultimate for Christmas! It would save money on having to box it
>>> > and
>>> > put it on DISC on so on, and so forth! My idea does have some merit!
>>> >
>>> > ----------------
>>> > This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
>>> > suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click
>>> > the "I
>>> > Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button,
>>> > follow
>>> > this
>>> > link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and
>>> > then
>>> > click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>>> >
>>> > [url]http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.mspx?mid=966ba522-0bd9-42a5-be72-59f028c5ce39&dg=microsoft.public.windows.vista.general[/url]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This is one of the only things I have heard you state that has a bit of
>>> merit. A "bit", mind you.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, I don't thing there is a server farm in existence that
>>> could
>>> handle the crush. Microsoft is experiencing problems now with the
>>> relatively
>>> few (by comparison) people who want to download from the MSDN website.
>>>
>>> Then there is the internet backbone itself. Could the internet stand up
>>> to
>>> the massive flow of traffic. How about the smaller ISP's whose equipment
>>> would go into meltdown from the massive flow of bits.
>>>
>>> Would YOU be happy when the first, second and maybe the third download
>>> is
>>> corrupted and you have to do it over, yet again. From what I gather from
>>> your previous rants I don't think that you are the type of person who
>>> would
>>> accept that which is not under anyone's control.
>>>
>>> And I know what you are going to say. Microsoft should only offer it
>>> this
>>> way to the CPP participants, right?
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Richard Urban
>>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>>> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>>>
>>> Quote from George Ankner:
>>> If you knew as much as you think you know,
>>> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>>>
>>>[/color][/color]
>[/color]

:)

"Charlie" <charlie@ease.biz> wrote in message
news:12m696nr00j9ec3@corp.supernews.com...[color=blue][color=green]
> >DO NOT miss out on the holiday season! Its all about pleasing the
>>consumer right when possible right?[/color]
>
> No.... it's all about Jesus Christ...
>
> --
>
>
>
> "Jon Acord" <JOn@theacords.biz> wrote in message
> news:966BA522-0BD9-42A5-BE72-59F028C5CE39@microsoft.com...[color=green]
>> Apparently no one will be able to buy VISTA Ultimate for christmas. I
>> just
>> built a new computer, so buying another PC just to get VISTA is not an
>> option. Why doesn't microsoft let people download and pay for RTM right
>> here, right now? It seems like they would make a ton of money, and make
>> lots
>> of people deleriously happy. I have $400.00 just burning a hole in my
>> pocket. DO NOT miss out on the holiday season! Its all about pleasing
>> the
>> consumer right when possible right? Please, make our dreams come true!
>> VISTA ultimate for Christmas! It would save money on having to box it
>> and
>> put it on DISC on so on, and so forth! My idea does have some merit!
>>
>> ----------------
>> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
>> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the
>> "I
>> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
>> this
>> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and
>> then
>> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>>
>> [url]http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.mspx?mid=966ba522-0bd9-42a5-be72-59f028c5ce39&dg=microsoft.public.windows.vista.general[/url]
>>[/color]
>
>[/color]

December 1st? Sounds great! I can't wait. I plan on buying Ultimate.

"**__Mike__**" wrote:
[color=blue]
> Supposedly there will be a trial version available for download on December
> 1st that will allow you to use it until you are able to purchase and
> activate it with a product key. So most of us should have Vista for
> Christmas.
>
> -Mike
>
> "Gernot Frisch" <Me@Privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:4sgmvaFvk4s1U1@mid.individual.net...[color=green]
> >[color=darkred]
> >> [snip] I have $400.00 just burning a hole in my
> >> pocket. DO NOT miss out on the holiday season![/color]
> >
> > You can send it to me. I can spend it without worrying about Vista. And
> > when you have them in your pocket again, Vista is in the stores.
> >[/color]
>
>
>[/color]

I second that :) :)
"xfile" <cou-cou@remove.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:%23lzsWkdDHHA.3676@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> :)
>
> "Charlie" <charlie@ease.biz> wrote in message
> news:12m696nr00j9ec3@corp.supernews.com...[color=green][color=darkred]
>> >DO NOT miss out on the holiday season! Its all about pleasing the
>>>consumer right when possible right?[/color]
>>
>> No.... it's all about Jesus Christ...
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>> "Jon Acord" <JOn@theacords.biz> wrote in message
>> news:966BA522-0BD9-42A5-BE72-59F028C5CE39@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
>>> Apparently no one will be able to buy VISTA Ultimate for christmas. I
>>> just
>>> built a new computer, so buying another PC just to get VISTA is not an
>>> option. Why doesn't microsoft let people download and pay for RTM right
>>> here, right now? It seems like they would make a ton of money, and make
>>> lots
>>> of people deleriously happy. I have $400.00 just burning a hole in my
>>> pocket. DO NOT miss out on the holiday season! Its all about pleasing
>>> the
>>> consumer right when possible right? Please, make our dreams come true!
>>> VISTA ultimate for Christmas! It would save money on having to box it
>>> and
>>> put it on DISC on so on, and so forth! My idea does have some merit!
>>>
>>> ----------------
>>> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
>>> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the
>>> "I
>>> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
>>> this
>>> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and
>>> then
>>> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>>>
>>> [url]http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.mspx?mid=966ba522-0bd9-42a5-be72-59f028c5ce39&dg=microsoft.public.windows.vista.general[/url]
>>>[/color]
>>
>>[/color]
>
>[/color]

Why should you expected to be rewarded? Where did you get the notion that
you would be? Just because you reported a few bugs here and there doesn't
entitle you to a discount or a freebie. Do you expect Ford to give a
discount for taking a new car for a test drive? This is the same thing the
Beta was a test drive, nothing more.
When you joined the testing program you weren't promised anything other than
the opportunity to see what Vista offers.

"Jon Acord" wrote:
[color=blue]
>
> Richard: My previous rants? Now that statement is unfair. As we discussed
> previously, *yawn*, CPP participants contributed as much as anyone else. And
> yet, those of us who faithfully submitted bugs, were not rewarded with even a
> discount coupon, much less a free copy. I was invited by microsoft to
> participate in the CPP. I never Just went and downloaded it because I saw
> it. Here is an actual copy and paste from one of the numerous e-mails
> microsoft sent to me: QUOTE: Thank you for participating in the Windows
> Vista Customer Preview Program. Customer feedback is an integral part of our
> development process and your continued support is very important to help us
> improve the overall quality of Windows Vista. That aside, it would be great
> if PC enthusiasts were able to buy a copy of VISTA ultimate for Christmas.
> "Richard Urban" wrote:
>[color=green]
> > "Jon Acord" <JOn@theacords.biz> wrote in message
> > news:966BA522-0BD9-42A5-BE72-59F028C5CE39@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
> > > Apparently no one will be able to buy VISTA Ultimate for christmas. I
> > > just
> > > built a new computer, so buying another PC just to get VISTA is not an
> > > option. Why doesn't microsoft let people download and pay for RTM right
> > > here, right now? It seems like they would make a ton of money, and make
> > > lots
> > > of people deleriously happy. I have $400.00 just burning a hole in my
> > > pocket. DO NOT miss out on the holiday season! Its all about pleasing
> > > the
> > > consumer right when possible right? Please, make our dreams come true!
> > > VISTA ultimate for Christmas! It would save money on having to box it and
> > > put it on DISC on so on, and so forth! My idea does have some merit!
> > >
> > > ----------------
> > > This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
> > > suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
> > > Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
> > > this
> > > link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
> > > click "I Agree" in the message pane.
> > >
> > > [url]http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.mspx?mid=966ba522-0bd9-42a5-be72-59f028c5ce39&dg=microsoft.public.windows.vista.general[/url][/color]
> >
> >
> >
> > This is one of the only things I have heard you state that has a bit of
> > merit. A "bit", mind you.
> >
> > Unfortunately, I don't thing there is a server farm in existence that could
> > handle the crush. Microsoft is experiencing problems now with the relatively
> > few (by comparison) people who want to download from the MSDN website.
> >
> > Then there is the internet backbone itself. Could the internet stand up to
> > the massive flow of traffic. How about the smaller ISP's whose equipment
> > would go into meltdown from the massive flow of bits.
> >
> > Would YOU be happy when the first, second and maybe the third download is
> > corrupted and you have to do it over, yet again. From what I gather from
> > your previous rants I don't think that you are the type of person who would
> > accept that which is not under anyone's control.
> >
> > And I know what you are going to say. Microsoft should only offer it this
> > way to the CPP participants, right?
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Richard Urban
> > Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
> > (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
> >
> > Quote from George Ankner:
> > If you knew as much as you think you know,
> > You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
> >
> >[/color][/color]