Thanks Bill. Lets travel back to the mid 70's and DOS 1.0, when memory was
running about $28.00 a MB. When you wrote your own programs in DOS and self
taught C+ on a Radio Shack Mod 3 and Mod 4, and the famous Coco (4 MB which
we expanded to 16 MB). I don't want to leave out my first modem which was
150 baud. And march up to Windows 95. Now we have plug & play. But for the
life of me,what was the original name to what we now call Windows. And if
you think its ruff now, better sell your computers!
Jerry P

Are you talking about Windows/286? Windows 1.0?


Bill F.



"Jerry P" <alpha7878@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:F430D5F7-171E-4826-8EC9-5AFE71096036@microsoft.com...
> Thanks Bill. Lets travel back to the mid 70's and DOS 1.0, when memory was
> running about $28.00 a MB. When you wrote your own programs in DOS and
> self taught C+ on a Radio Shack Mod 3 and Mod 4, and the famous Coco (4 MB
> which we expanded to 16 MB). I don't want to leave out my first modem
> which was 150 baud. And march up to Windows 95. Now we have plug & play.
> But for the life of me,what was the original name to what we now call
> Windows. And if you think its ruff now, better sell your computers!
> Jerry P
>

No, it was the name before Windows. Darn I am getting old.....lol.....

"Bill Frisbee" <wfrisbeeX@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:uBgFgrsBHHA.3540@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Are you talking about Windows/286? Windows 1.0?
>
>
> Bill F.
>
>
>
> "Jerry P" <alpha7878@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:F430D5F7-171E-4826-8EC9-5AFE71096036@microsoft.com...
>> Thanks Bill. Lets travel back to the mid 70's and DOS 1.0, when memory
>> was running about $28.00 a MB. When you wrote your own programs in DOS
>> and self taught C+ on a Radio Shack Mod 3 and Mod 4, and the famous Coco
>> (4 MB which we expanded to 16 MB). I don't want to leave out my first
>> modem which was 150 baud. And march up to Windows 95. Now we have plug &
>> play. But for the life of me,what was the original name to what we now
>> call Windows. And if you think its ruff now, better sell your computers!
>> Jerry P
>>
>

Interface Manager?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History...rosoft_Windows

Dean


"Jerry P" <alpha7878@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:BBAC5A38-F45C-4DBD-9679-A498A9E9B2A9@microsoft.com...
> No, it was the name before Windows. Darn I am getting old.....lol.....
>
> "Bill Frisbee" <wfrisbeeX@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:uBgFgrsBHHA.3540@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Are you talking about Windows/286? Windows 1.0?
>>
>>
>> Bill F.
>>
>>
>>
>> "Jerry P" <alpha7878@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:F430D5F7-171E-4826-8EC9-5AFE71096036@microsoft.com...
>>> Thanks Bill. Lets travel back to the mid 70's and DOS 1.0, when memory
>>> was running about $28.00 a MB. When you wrote your own programs in DOS
>>> and self taught C+ on a Radio Shack Mod 3 and Mod 4, and the famous Coco
>>> (4 MB which we expanded to 16 MB). I don't want to leave out my first
>>> modem which was 150 baud. And march up to Windows 95. Now we have plug
>>> & play. But for the life of me,what was the original name to what we now
>>> call Windows. And if you think its ruff now, better sell your computers!
>>> Jerry P
>>>
>>
>

"Jerry P" <alpha7878@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:F430D5F7-171E-4826-8EC9-5AFE71096036@microsoft.com...
> Thanks Bill. Lets travel back to the mid 70's and DOS 1.0, when memory was
> running about $28.00 a MB. When you wrote your own programs in DOS and
> self taught C+ on a Radio Shack Mod 3 and Mod 4, and the famous Coco (4 MB
> which we expanded to 16 MB). I don't want to leave out my first modem
> which was 150 baud. And march up to Windows 95. Now we have plug & play.
> But for the life of me,what was the original name to what we now call
> Windows. And if you think its ruff now, better sell your computers!
> Jerry P

Wiindows started out at 1.0. It was supposed to be a learning tool to move
on to
OS/2. In fact it was called Presentation Manager as was the GUI in OS/2.

Tom Lake

He may be thinking about MS DOS Executive, which was the name of the user
interface in Windows 1.0 (seen on the title bar when running). MSDE was
eventually replaced by Program Manager and File Manager in later versions of
Windows pre Win95. Man, that brings back memories......

Eric Ransick


"dean-dean" <dean-dean@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A556FE74-53DD-4543-8257-FFF76CFE1B07@microsoft.com...
> Interface Manager?
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History...rosoft_Windows
>
> Dean
>
>
> "Jerry P" <alpha7878@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:BBAC5A38-F45C-4DBD-9679-A498A9E9B2A9@microsoft.com...
>> No, it was the name before Windows. Darn I am getting old.....lol.....
>>
>> "Bill Frisbee" <wfrisbeeX@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:uBgFgrsBHHA.3540@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> Are you talking about Windows/286? Windows 1.0?
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill F.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jerry P" <alpha7878@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:F430D5F7-171E-4826-8EC9-5AFE71096036@microsoft.com...
>>>> Thanks Bill. Lets travel back to the mid 70's and DOS 1.0, when memory
>>>> was running about $28.00 a MB. When you wrote your own programs in DOS
>>>> and self taught C+ on a Radio Shack Mod 3 and Mod 4, and the famous
>>>> Coco (4 MB which we expanded to 16 MB). I don't want to leave out my
>>>> first modem which was 150 baud. And march up to Windows 95. Now we
>>>> have plug & play. But for the life of me,what was the original name to
>>>> what we now call Windows. And if you think its ruff now, better sell
>>>> your computers!
>>>> Jerry P
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

That's it.......
Thanks

"dean-dean" <dean-dean@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A556FE74-53DD-4543-8257-FFF76CFE1B07@microsoft.com...
> Interface Manager?
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History...rosoft_Windows
>
> Dean
>
>
> "Jerry P" <alpha7878@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:BBAC5A38-F45C-4DBD-9679-A498A9E9B2A9@microsoft.com...
>> No, it was the name before Windows. Darn I am getting old.....lol.....
>>
>> "Bill Frisbee" <wfrisbeeX@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:uBgFgrsBHHA.3540@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> Are you talking about Windows/286? Windows 1.0?
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill F.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jerry P" <alpha7878@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:F430D5F7-171E-4826-8EC9-5AFE71096036@microsoft.com...
>>>> Thanks Bill. Lets travel back to the mid 70's and DOS 1.0, when memory
>>>> was running about $28.00 a MB. When you wrote your own programs in DOS
>>>> and self taught C+ on a Radio Shack Mod 3 and Mod 4, and the famous
>>>> Coco (4 MB which we expanded to 16 MB). I don't want to leave out my
>>>> first modem which was 150 baud. And march up to Windows 95. Now we
>>>> have plug & play. But for the life of me,what was the original name to
>>>> what we now call Windows. And if you think its ruff now, better sell
>>>> your computers!
>>>> Jerry P
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

Like Dean said above it was called "Interface Manager".

"Tom Lake" <tlake@twcny.rr.com> wrote in message
news:%23sb5GOtBHHA.144@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
> "Jerry P" <alpha7878@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:F430D5F7-171E-4826-8EC9-5AFE71096036@microsoft.com...
>> Thanks Bill. Lets travel back to the mid 70's and DOS 1.0, when memory
>> was running about $28.00 a MB. When you wrote your own programs in DOS
>> and self taught C+ on a Radio Shack Mod 3 and Mod 4, and the famous Coco
>> (4 MB which we expanded to 16 MB). I don't want to leave out my first
>> modem which was 150 baud. And march up to Windows 95. Now we have plug &
>> play. But for the life of me,what was the original name to what we now
>> call Windows. And if you think its ruff now, better sell your computers!
>> Jerry P
>
> Wiindows started out at 1.0. It was supposed to be a learning tool to
> move on to
> OS/2. In fact it was called Presentation Manager as was the GUI in OS/2.
>
> Tom Lake
>

I don't think C++ came out until the mid 80's.
Maybe you mean C.
There never was a C+ as far as I know.

Original Name of Windows? The "Interactive Systems Group" was started at
Microsoft to develop Windows, and as far as my History book says, there is
no mention of a pre Windows name for Windows.

"Jerry P" <alpha7878@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:F430D5F7-171E-4826-8EC9-5AFE71096036@microsoft.com...
> Thanks Bill. Lets travel back to the mid 70's and DOS 1.0, when memory was
> running about $28.00 a MB. When you wrote your own programs in DOS and
> self taught C+ on a Radio Shack Mod 3 and Mod 4, and the famous Coco (4 MB
> which we expanded to 16 MB). I don't want to leave out my first modem
> which was 150 baud. And march up to Windows 95. Now we have plug & play.
> But for the life of me,what was the original name to what we now call
> Windows. And if you think its ruff now, better sell your computers!
> Jerry P
>

Boy its been a long time, but if I remember C+ was late 70's and C++ was
early 80's. Anyway, its been a learning experience. I have 2 sons that are
in college now, and one is taking Computer Networking Security. For the fun
I should fire up one computer with windows 95, .....R.O.F.L...... and let
them get into Device manager, and install the drivers the old way. And the
way we had to update the BIOS, boy the way they are crying about Vista. No
internet user groups to help debug. Most of the whiners you see here, would
blow their brains out....lol...... I almost forgot, remember the cassette
tape to load/save programs....R.O.F.L....
Jerry P



"Gary Mount" <gary_mount@telus.net> wrote in message
news:839831A9-AA74-45EF-95F8-EE07072571A8@microsoft.com...
>I don't think C++ came out until the mid 80's.
> Maybe you mean C.
> There never was a C+ as far as I know.
>
> Original Name of Windows? The "Interactive Systems Group" was started at
> Microsoft to develop Windows, and as far as my History book says, there is
> no mention of a pre Windows name for Windows.
>
> "Jerry P" <alpha7878@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:F430D5F7-171E-4826-8EC9-5AFE71096036@microsoft.com...
>> Thanks Bill. Lets travel back to the mid 70's and DOS 1.0, when memory
>> was running about $28.00 a MB. When you wrote your own programs in DOS
>> and self taught C+ on a Radio Shack Mod 3 and Mod 4, and the famous Coco
>> (4 MB which we expanded to 16 MB). I don't want to leave out my first
>> modem which was 150 baud. And march up to Windows 95. Now we have plug &
>> play. But for the life of me,what was the original name to what we now
>> call Windows. And if you think its ruff now, better sell your computers!
>> Jerry P
>>
>

Jerry P schrieb:
> Boy its been a long time, but if I remember C+ was late 70's and C++ was
> early 80's. Anyway, its been a learning experience. I have 2 sons that
> are in college now, and one is taking Computer Networking Security. For
> the fun I should fire up one computer with windows 95,
> .....R.O.F.L...... and let them get into Device manager, and install the
> drivers the old way. And the way we had to update the BIOS, boy the way
> they are crying about Vista. No internet user groups to help debug. Most
> of the whiners you see here, would blow their brains out....lol...... I
> almost forgot, remember the cassette tape to load/save
> programs....R.O.F.L....
> Jerry P


Oh... those good old Golden Years... hasta la Vista...


>
> "Gary Mount" <gary_mount@telus.net> wrote in message
> news:839831A9-AA74-45EF-95F8-EE07072571A8@microsoft.com...
>> I don't think C++ came out until the mid 80's.
>> Maybe you mean C.
>> There never was a C+ as far as I know.
>>
>> Original Name of Windows? The "Interactive Systems Group" was started
>> at Microsoft to develop Windows, and as far as my History book says,
>> there is no mention of a pre Windows name for Windows.
>>
>> "Jerry P" <alpha7878@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:F430D5F7-171E-4826-8EC9-5AFE71096036@microsoft.com...
>>> Thanks Bill. Lets travel back to the mid 70's and DOS 1.0, when
>>> memory was running about $28.00 a MB. When you wrote your own
>>> programs in DOS and self taught C+ on a Radio Shack Mod 3 and Mod 4,
>>> and the famous Coco (4 MB which we expanded to 16 MB). I don't want
>>> to leave out my first modem which was 150 baud. And march up to
>>> Windows 95. Now we have plug & play. But for the life of me,what was
>>> the original name to what we now call Windows. And if you think its
>>> ruff now, better sell your computers!
>>> Jerry P
>>>
>>
>

MS Interface Manager


"Jerry P" <alpha7878@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:95328936-282C-45C6-BD8E-1957CB8F4BDF@microsoft.com...
> That's it.......
> Thanks
>
> "dean-dean" <dean-dean@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:A556FE74-53DD-4543-8257-FFF76CFE1B07@microsoft.com...
>> Interface Manager?
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History...rosoft_Windows
>>
>> Dean
>>
>>
>> "Jerry P" <alpha7878@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:BBAC5A38-F45C-4DBD-9679-A498A9E9B2A9@microsoft.com...
>>> No, it was the name before Windows. Darn I am getting old.....lol.....
>>>
>>> "Bill Frisbee" <wfrisbeeX@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:uBgFgrsBHHA.3540@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> Are you talking about Windows/286? Windows 1.0?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bill F.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Jerry P" <alpha7878@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:F430D5F7-171E-4826-8EC9-5AFE71096036@microsoft.com...
>>>>> Thanks Bill. Lets travel back to the mid 70's and DOS 1.0, when memory
>>>>> was running about $28.00 a MB. When you wrote your own programs in DOS
>>>>> and self taught C+ on a Radio Shack Mod 3 and Mod 4, and the famous
>>>>> Coco (4 MB which we expanded to 16 MB). I don't want to leave out my
>>>>> first modem which was 150 baud. And march up to Windows 95. Now we
>>>>> have plug & play. But for the life of me,what was the original name to
>>>>> what we now call Windows. And if you think its ruff now, better sell
>>>>> your computers!
>>>>> Jerry P
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

Well,
While ya all are reminiscing remember BASIC,
but basic was around for awhile, if ya all remember that far back, how bout
punch cards.
lol
C+ my but; lets go back further than that-basic; fortran ;cobol snobol; geez
i forget

Jeff

"Roy Coorne" <rcoorne********.com> wrote in message
news:ONBrlCuBHHA.4428@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Jerry P schrieb:
>> Boy its been a long time, but if I remember C+ was late 70's and C++ was
>> early 80's. Anyway, its been a learning experience. I have 2 sons that
>> are in college now, and one is taking Computer Networking Security. For
>> the fun I should fire up one computer with windows 95, .....R.O.F.L......
>> and let them get into Device manager, and install the drivers the old
>> way. And the way we had to update the BIOS, boy the way they are crying
>> about Vista. No internet user groups to help debug. Most of the whiners
>> you see here, would blow their brains out....lol...... I almost forgot,
>> remember the cassette tape to load/save programs....R.O.F.L....
>> Jerry P
>
>
> Oh... those good old Golden Years... hasta la Vista...
>
>
>>
>> "Gary Mount" <gary_mount@telus.net> wrote in message
>> news:839831A9-AA74-45EF-95F8-EE07072571A8@microsoft.com...
>>> I don't think C++ came out until the mid 80's.
>>> Maybe you mean C.
>>> There never was a C+ as far as I know.
>>>
>>> Original Name of Windows? The "Interactive Systems Group" was started at
>>> Microsoft to develop Windows, and as far as my History book says, there
>>> is no mention of a pre Windows name for Windows.
>>>
>>> "Jerry P" <alpha7878@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:F430D5F7-171E-4826-8EC9-5AFE71096036@microsoft.com...
>>>> Thanks Bill. Lets travel back to the mid 70's and DOS 1.0, when memory
>>>> was running about $28.00 a MB. When you wrote your own programs in DOS
>>>> and self taught C+ on a Radio Shack Mod 3 and Mod 4, and the famous
>>>> Coco (4 MB which we expanded to 16 MB). I don't want to leave out my
>>>> first modem which was 150 baud. And march up to Windows 95. Now we
>>>> have plug & play. But for the life of me,what was the original name to
>>>> what we now call Windows. And if you think its ruff now, better sell
>>>> your computers!
>>>> Jerry P
>>>>
>>>
>>

Thier was no C+.
C Came first and then C++, It came by way of a very obscure insider joke.
it was "C++" or for the non programmers amongst us the ++ operator
increments and assigns a variable holding a numeric type variable. so if C
holds a value of 1 *(version one) then C++ becomes 1 plus 1. :)
the next iteration in other words.

i guess i have been coding MUCH to long if i remember that.
anyone want to buy some computers? i think i will take up the Abacus.

"Jerry P" wrote:

> Boy its been a long time, but if I remember C+ was late 70's and C++ was
> early 80's. Anyway, its been a learning experience. I have 2 sons that are
> in college now, and one is taking Computer Networking Security. For the fun
> I should fire up one computer with windows 95, .....R.O.F.L...... and let
> them get into Device manager, and install the drivers the old way. And the
> way we had to update the BIOS, boy the way they are crying about Vista. No
> internet user groups to help debug. Most of the whiners you see here, would
> blow their brains out....lol...... I almost forgot, remember the cassette
> tape to load/save programs....R.O.F.L....
> Jerry P
>
>
>
> "Gary Mount" <gary_mount@telus.net> wrote in message
> news:839831A9-AA74-45EF-95F8-EE07072571A8@microsoft.com...
> >I don't think C++ came out until the mid 80's.
> > Maybe you mean C.
> > There never was a C+ as far as I know.
> >
> > Original Name of Windows? The "Interactive Systems Group" was started at
> > Microsoft to develop Windows, and as far as my History book says, there is
> > no mention of a pre Windows name for Windows.
> >
> > "Jerry P" <alpha7878@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > news:F430D5F7-171E-4826-8EC9-5AFE71096036@microsoft.com...
> >> Thanks Bill. Lets travel back to the mid 70's and DOS 1.0, when memory
> >> was running about $28.00 a MB. When you wrote your own programs in DOS
> >> and self taught C+ on a Radio Shack Mod 3 and Mod 4, and the famous Coco
> >> (4 MB which we expanded to 16 MB). I don't want to leave out my first
> >> modem which was 150 baud. And march up to Windows 95. Now we have plug &
> >> play. But for the life of me,what was the original name to what we now
> >> call Windows. And if you think its ruff now, better sell your computers!
> >> Jerry P
> >>
> >
>

Heck, we can go back even further than that - how about pencil and paper?????



"Jeff" wrote:

> Well,
> While ya all are reminiscing remember BASIC,
> but basic was around for awhile, if ya all remember that far back, how bout
> punch cards.
> lol
> C+ my but; lets go back further than that-basic; fortran ;cobol snobol; geez
> i forget
>
> Jeff
>
> "Roy Coorne" <rcoorne********.com> wrote in message
> news:ONBrlCuBHHA.4428@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> > Jerry P schrieb:
> >> Boy its been a long time, but if I remember C+ was late 70's and C++ was
> >> early 80's. Anyway, its been a learning experience. I have 2 sons that
> >> are in college now, and one is taking Computer Networking Security. For
> >> the fun I should fire up one computer with windows 95, .....R.O.F.L......
> >> and let them get into Device manager, and install the drivers the old
> >> way. And the way we had to update the BIOS, boy the way they are crying
> >> about Vista. No internet user groups to help debug. Most of the whiners
> >> you see here, would blow their brains out....lol...... I almost forgot,
> >> remember the cassette tape to load/save programs....R.O.F.L....
> >> Jerry P
> >
> >
> > Oh... those good old Golden Years... hasta la Vista...
> >
> >
> >>
> >> "Gary Mount" <gary_mount@telus.net> wrote in message
> >> news:839831A9-AA74-45EF-95F8-EE07072571A8@microsoft.com...
> >>> I don't think C++ came out until the mid 80's.
> >>> Maybe you mean C.
> >>> There never was a C+ as far as I know.
> >>>
> >>> Original Name of Windows? The "Interactive Systems Group" was started at
> >>> Microsoft to develop Windows, and as far as my History book says, there
> >>> is no mention of a pre Windows name for Windows.
> >>>
> >>> "Jerry P" <alpha7878@comcast.net> wrote in message
> >>> news:F430D5F7-171E-4826-8EC9-5AFE71096036@microsoft.com...
> >>>> Thanks Bill. Lets travel back to the mid 70's and DOS 1.0, when memory
> >>>> was running about $28.00 a MB. When you wrote your own programs in DOS
> >>>> and self taught C+ on a Radio Shack Mod 3 and Mod 4, and the famous
> >>>> Coco (4 MB which we expanded to 16 MB). I don't want to leave out my
> >>>> first modem which was 150 baud. And march up to Windows 95. Now we
> >>>> have plug & play. But for the life of me,what was the original name to
> >>>> what we now call Windows. And if you think its ruff now, better sell
> >>>> your computers!
> >>>> Jerry P
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
>
>