Hi Steve,

Change the settings under the Control Panel/System/Advanced sytem
settings/Advanced tab/Performance settings/DEP tab. You can't turn it off,
but you can adjust that which it protects.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

"SteveC" <sconklan.nospam******.com> wrote in message
news:7A76BEA1-7259-4AAA-BDFD-C0BABA2C598B@microsoft.com...
I keep running into Vista programs running because DEP shut it down and it
tells me to turn off DEP, but when I try to do so, it says DEP must be on
for this program. Anyway to turn DEP off altogether?

this is the fix i've seen:

Right click on the command prompt icon in start menu and select 'run as
administrator'
From the command prompt window type: bcdedit.exe /set {current} nx AlwaysOff


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"Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:Oq0qwB1%23GHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Hi Steve,
>
> Change the settings under the Control Panel/System/Advanced sytem
> settings/Advanced tab/Performance settings/DEP tab. You can't turn it off,
> but you can adjust that which it protects.
>
> --
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>
> "SteveC" <sconklan.nospam******.com> wrote in message
> news:7A76BEA1-7259-4AAA-BDFD-C0BABA2C598B@microsoft.com...
> I keep running into Vista programs running because DEP shut it down and it
> tells me to turn off DEP, but when I try to do so, it says DEP must be on
> for this program. Anyway to turn DEP off altogether?

Yes, but is turning it off a good idea? Better to adjust the system so that
it is working correctly than to disable something that is protecting it.

--
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Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

"John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit@mvps.org.NOSPAM> wrote in message
news:evTJir1%23GHA.4268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> this is the fix i've seen:
>
> Right click on the command prompt icon in start menu and select 'run as
> administrator'
> From the command prompt window type: bcdedit.exe /set {current} nx
> AlwaysOff
>
>
> --
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> Associate Expert
> http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
> http://vistasupport.mvps.org
>
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> for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out
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>
> "Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:Oq0qwB1%23GHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Hi Steve,
>>
>> Change the settings under the Control Panel/System/Advanced sytem
>> settings/Advanced tab/Performance settings/DEP tab. You can't turn it
>> off, but you can adjust that which it protects.
>>
>> --
>> Best of Luck,
>>
>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>>
>> "SteveC" <sconklan.nospam******.com> wrote in message
>> news:7A76BEA1-7259-4AAA-BDFD-C0BABA2C598B@microsoft.com...
>> I keep running into Vista programs running because DEP shut it down and
>> it tells me to turn off DEP, but when I try to do so, it says DEP must be
>> on for this program. Anyway to turn DEP off altogether?
>

I agree, Rick, but it appears, from the numerous posts on this subject int
he various newsgroups, that many, want to turn DEP off completely, as they
have done in Windows XP. Personally i don't have any trouble with DEP either
in Vista or XP.

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"Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:%23lykhT2%23GHA.3480@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Yes, but is turning it off a good idea? Better to adjust the system so
> that it is working correctly than to disable something that is protecting
> it.
>
> --
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>
> "John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit@mvps.org.NOSPAM> wrote in message
> news:evTJir1%23GHA.4268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> this is the fix i've seen:
>>
>> Right click on the command prompt icon in start menu and select 'run as
>> administrator'
>> From the command prompt window type: bcdedit.exe /set {current} nx
>> AlwaysOff
>>
>>
>> --
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>> Associate Expert
>> http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
>> http://vistasupport.mvps.org
>>
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>> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
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>> for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out
>> of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in
>> this mail/post..
>>
>> "Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:Oq0qwB1%23GHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Hi Steve,
>>>
>>> Change the settings under the Control Panel/System/Advanced sytem
>>> settings/Advanced tab/Performance settings/DEP tab. You can't turn it
>>> off, but you can adjust that which it protects.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best of Luck,
>>>
>>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>>> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>>>
>>> "SteveC" <sconklan.nospam******.com> wrote in message
>>> news:7A76BEA1-7259-4AAA-BDFD-C0BABA2C598B@microsoft.com...
>>> I keep running into Vista programs running because DEP shut it down and
>>> it tells me to turn off DEP, but when I try to do so, it says DEP must
>>> be on for this program. Anyway to turn DEP off altogether?
>>
>

Am I missing something? I did this and it said that the operation completed successfully. Yet ieinstaller.exe and cleanmgr.exe still stop working in the middle with a warning that DEP has shut them down. Is there something I am supposed to write in there? I pasted the line verbatim.

"John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit@mvps.org.NOSPAM> wrote in message news:evTJir1%23GHA.4268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
this is the fix i've seen:

Right click on the command prompt icon in start menu and select 'run as
administrator'
From the command prompt window type: bcdedit.exe /set {current} nx AlwaysOff


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"Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:Oq0qwB1%23GHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Hi Steve,
>
> Change the settings under the Control Panel/System/Advanced sytem
> settings/Advanced tab/Performance settings/DEP tab. You can't turn it off,
> but you can adjust that which it protects.
>
> --
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>
> "SteveC" <sconklan.nospam******.com> wrote in message
> news:7A76BEA1-7259-4AAA-BDFD-C0BABA2C598B@microsoft.com...
> I keep running into Vista programs running because DEP shut it down and it
> tells me to turn off DEP, but when I try to do so, it says DEP must be on
> for this program. Anyway to turn DEP off altogether?

Did you reboot after running the command? ;)

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"SteveC" <sconklan.nospam******.com> wrote in message
news:0E629DDC-29B0-4882-AB7B-B3EF35091FA8@microsoft.com...
Am I missing something? I did this and it said that the operation completed
successfully. Yet ieinstaller.exe and cleanmgr.exe still stop working in
the middle with a warning that DEP has shut them down. Is there something I
am supposed to write in there? I pasted the line verbatim.

"John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit@mvps.org.NOSPAM> wrote in message
news:evTJir1%23GHA.4268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
this is the fix i've seen:

Right click on the command prompt icon in start menu and select 'run as
administrator'
From the command prompt window type: bcdedit.exe /set {current} nx AlwaysOff


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http://vistasupport.mvps.org

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"Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:Oq0qwB1%23GHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Hi Steve,
>
> Change the settings under the Control Panel/System/Advanced sytem
> settings/Advanced tab/Performance settings/DEP tab. You can't turn it off,
> but you can adjust that which it protects.
>
> --
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>
> "SteveC" <sconklan.nospam******.com> wrote in message
> news:7A76BEA1-7259-4AAA-BDFD-C0BABA2C598B@microsoft.com...
> I keep running into Vista programs running because DEP shut it down and it
> tells me to turn off DEP, but when I try to do so, it says DEP must be on
> for this program. Anyway to turn DEP off altogether?

I haven't tried this fix i simply came across it while looking for something
else. However, i believe you do need to reboot the PC before the fix
actually works.

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"SteveC" <sconklan.nospam******.com> wrote in message
news:0E629DDC-29B0-4882-AB7B-B3EF35091FA8@microsoft.com...
Am I missing something? I did this and it said that the operation completed
successfully. Yet ieinstaller.exe and cleanmgr.exe still stop working in
the middle with a warning that DEP has shut them down. Is there something I
am supposed to write in there? I pasted the line verbatim.

"John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit@mvps.org.NOSPAM> wrote in message
news:evTJir1%23GHA.4268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
this is the fix i've seen:

Right click on the command prompt icon in start menu and select 'run as
administrator'
From the command prompt window type: bcdedit.exe /set {current} nx AlwaysOff


--
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http://vistasupport.mvps.org

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"Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:Oq0qwB1%23GHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Hi Steve,
>
> Change the settings under the Control Panel/System/Advanced sytem
> settings/Advanced tab/Performance settings/DEP tab. You can't turn it off,
> but you can adjust that which it protects.
>
> --
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>
> "SteveC" <sconklan.nospam******.com> wrote in message
> news:7A76BEA1-7259-4AAA-BDFD-C0BABA2C598B@microsoft.com...
> I keep running into Vista programs running because DEP shut it down and it
> tells me to turn off DEP, but when I try to do so, it says DEP must be on
> for this program. Anyway to turn DEP off altogether?

Thanks a bunch. I should have done that as a matter of course. I have Defender and WindowsOneCare so DEP should be redundant. But if I want to turn it back on, would I repeat the process but say AlwaysOn?

"John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit@mvps.org.NOSPAM> wrote in message news:OvzjSmF$GHA.2180@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
I haven't tried this fix i simply came across it while looking for something
else. However, i believe you do need to reboot the PC before the fix
actually works.

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"SteveC" <sconklan.nospam******.com> wrote in message
news:0E629DDC-29B0-4882-AB7B-B3EF35091FA8@microsoft.com...
Am I missing something? I did this and it said that the operation completed
successfully. Yet ieinstaller.exe and cleanmgr.exe still stop working in
the middle with a warning that DEP has shut them down. Is there something I
am supposed to write in there? I pasted the line verbatim.

"John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit@mvps.org.NOSPAM> wrote in message
news:evTJir1%23GHA.4268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
this is the fix i've seen:

Right click on the command prompt icon in start menu and select 'run as
administrator'
From the command prompt window type: bcdedit.exe /set {current} nx AlwaysOff


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http://vistasupport.mvps.org

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"Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:Oq0qwB1%23GHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Hi Steve,
>
> Change the settings under the Control Panel/System/Advanced sytem
> settings/Advanced tab/Performance settings/DEP tab. You can't turn it off,
> but you can adjust that which it protects.
>
> --
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>
> "SteveC" <sconklan.nospam******.com> wrote in message
> news:7A76BEA1-7259-4AAA-BDFD-C0BABA2C598B@microsoft.com...
> I keep running into Vista programs running because DEP shut it down and it
> tells me to turn off DEP, but when I try to do so, it says DEP must be on
> for this program. Anyway to turn DEP off altogether?

I think it's OptIn instead of AlwaysOn.

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"SteveC" <sconklan.nospam******.com> wrote in message
news:E661F621-457D-47ED-9143-632A5BD8C8FC@microsoft.com...
Thanks a bunch. I should have done that as a matter of course. I have
Defender and WindowsOneCare so DEP should be redundant. But if I want to
turn it back on, would I repeat the process but say AlwaysOn?

"John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit@mvps.org.NOSPAM> wrote in message
news:OvzjSmF$GHA.2180@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
I haven't tried this fix i simply came across it while looking for something
else. However, i believe you do need to reboot the PC before the fix
actually works.

--
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Associate Expert
http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
http://vistasupport.mvps.org

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"SteveC" <sconklan.nospam******.com> wrote in message
news:0E629DDC-29B0-4882-AB7B-B3EF35091FA8@microsoft.com...
Am I missing something? I did this and it said that the operation completed
successfully. Yet ieinstaller.exe and cleanmgr.exe still stop working in
the middle with a warning that DEP has shut them down. Is there something I
am supposed to write in there? I pasted the line verbatim.

"John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit@mvps.org.NOSPAM> wrote in message
news:evTJir1%23GHA.4268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
this is the fix i've seen:

Right click on the command prompt icon in start menu and select 'run as
administrator'
From the command prompt window type: bcdedit.exe /set {current} nx AlwaysOff


--
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http://vistasupport.mvps.org

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"Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:Oq0qwB1%23GHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Hi Steve,
>
> Change the settings under the Control Panel/System/Advanced sytem
> settings/Advanced tab/Performance settings/DEP tab. You can't turn it off,
> but you can adjust that which it protects.
>
> --
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>
> "SteveC" <sconklan.nospam******.com> wrote in message
> news:7A76BEA1-7259-4AAA-BDFD-C0BABA2C598B@microsoft.com...
> I keep running into Vista programs running because DEP shut it down and it
> tells me to turn off DEP, but when I try to do so, it says DEP must be on
> for this program. Anyway to turn DEP off altogether?

From what i can see from the command options it looks as if either 'nx
AlwaysOn' or 'nx OptIn' should do the trick. Both record 'the operation
completed successfully'

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"Jane C" <jellybean@nospam.xjgarage.org> wrote in message
news:0D2E663E-D677-4483-83B2-0CA3087FE9F6@microsoft.com...
>I think it's OptIn instead of AlwaysOn.
>
> --
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> Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation ;-)
> "SteveC" <sconklan.nospam******.com> wrote in message
> news:E661F621-457D-47ED-9143-632A5BD8C8FC@microsoft.com...
> Thanks a bunch. I should have done that as a matter of course. I have
> Defender and WindowsOneCare so DEP should be redundant. But if I want to
> turn it back on, would I repeat the process but say AlwaysOn?
>
> "John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit@mvps.org.NOSPAM> wrote in message
> news:OvzjSmF$GHA.2180@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> I haven't tried this fix i simply came across it while looking for
> something
> else. However, i believe you do need to reboot the PC before the fix
> actually works.
>
> --
> John Barnett MVP
> Associate Expert
> http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
> http://vistasupport.mvps.org
>
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> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
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> for
> any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of
> the
> use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this
> mail/post..
>
> "SteveC" <sconklan.nospam******.com> wrote in message
> news:0E629DDC-29B0-4882-AB7B-B3EF35091FA8@microsoft.com...
> Am I missing something? I did this and it said that the operation
> completed
> successfully. Yet ieinstaller.exe and cleanmgr.exe still stop working in
> the middle with a warning that DEP has shut them down. Is there something
> I
> am supposed to write in there? I pasted the line verbatim.
>
> "John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit@mvps.org.NOSPAM> wrote in message
> news:evTJir1%23GHA.4268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> this is the fix i've seen:
>
> Right click on the command prompt icon in start menu and select 'run as
> administrator'
> From the command prompt window type: bcdedit.exe /set {current} nx
> AlwaysOff
>
>
> --
> John Barnett MVP
> Associate Expert
> http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
> http://vistasupport.mvps.org
>
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> for
> any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of
> the
> use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this
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>
> "Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:Oq0qwB1%23GHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Hi Steve,
>>
>> Change the settings under the Control Panel/System/Advanced sytem
>> settings/Advanced tab/Performance settings/DEP tab. You can't turn it
>> off,
>> but you can adjust that which it protects.
>>
>> --
>> Best of Luck,
>>
>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>>
>> "SteveC" <sconklan.nospam******.com> wrote in message
>> news:7A76BEA1-7259-4AAA-BDFD-C0BABA2C598B@microsoft.com...
>> I keep running into Vista programs running because DEP shut it down and
>> it
>> tells me to turn off DEP, but when I try to do so, it says DEP must be on
>> for this program. Anyway to turn DEP off altogether?
>