FireFTP is one, very good, example of a FireFox add-in.



"progressive realization" <-> wrote in message
news:%23kFI$ya%23GHA.4356@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
>I was afraid that firefox, Maxthon and Avantbrowser would lose lots of
>dedicated users (well not ff users that much because
> they love it for too many reasons) with the release of IE7. But now the
> incredibly low quality of IE7 is a gift to those people who were working
> on those alternative browsers. It seems that THEY are the ones who will
> bring browsers to another level an keep advancing the technology.
>
> I urge you to take a look at these alternative "shells" and firefox if you
> have not done it yet:
>
> In other words, my main tip for IE7 users is to avoid using it :-) (hehe I
> know.. I know but IE7s User interface is reeaaaalllllly bad)
>
> [url]www.avantbrowser.com[/url] >> this is the best shell (or alternative user
> interface) for the IE6 or IE7 rendering engine.
> If you want the extra security but hate the IE7 interface, install IE7 but
> use the avantbrowser shell (interface).
> [url]www.Maxthon.com[/url] >> version 2.0 is coming very soon.. and it looks nice....
>
> and of course Firefox [url]www.getfirefox.com[/url]
>
> Firefox has a simple interface when you first install it, BUT this browser
> can do almost anything imaginable with add-ons,
> so after installing it, go to tools> add-ons and explore the site... you
> will be amazed
> [url]https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/extensions/[/url] (to install these you
> must go to the site with firefox)
>
> Tip 1: Many add-ons are not yet compatible with the fresh version 2 of
> FireFox, BUT you can use this add-on to
> trick them into thinking you are using the older version. I have seen 95%
> of the add-ons that I have tried work great!
> Get it here [url]http://users.blueprintit.co.uk/~dave/web/firefox/nightly[/url]
>
> See screenshots on how to use it:
> [url]http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/2797/compatible2ur7.jpg[/url]
>
> or if you upgraded from 1.5.x and your add-ons are no longer working..
> see here: MAGIC!!!
> [url]http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/5421/compatiblefz1.jpg[/url]
>
> NOTE: Its not possible to have tested all the FF add-ons so I can be sure
> that something may not go wrong, so you can try these add-ons on the
> portable version of FF you will see below, if all your add ons work good,
> then you can install them on the normal installed version of FF
>
> Tip2: If you dont want to install FF but you want to try it, you can use
> the PORTABLE version from here
> [url]www.portableapps.com[/url] RC3 is the SAME build (same thing) as version 2.0
> Portable apps normally are used on removable drives like USB sticks, but
> no one says you cant use them on your hard drive
> as normal programs! Thats what I do to avoid installing too much
> stuff.....
>
> I am unfortunately leaving out opera... I am doing this on purpose..
> because they insist on holding on to their "strange" interface,
> that alienates new users....
>
>
>[/color]

Dont ask me.. read all the posts in this newsgroups and see what people are
saying.
If you have no problems then one or more or all of the following things have
happened:

1) You are extreamly lucky (it did not crash, the tabs worked, it did not
wreak other software)
2) You are not a power user. In other words you dont want or need to
customize the browser,
or you use it for simple browsing.
3) Your computer has been formated or windows installed recently and you
have a limited number of programs installed.
4) You have bad taste
5) You are not a "seasoned" computer user and the problems are invisible to
you.
6) You are Bill Gates, a MVP or you work for Microsoft.

Sorry...



"William" <woogles@charter.net> wrote in message
news:%23oelsAc%23GHA.3348@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> The premise of our argument is entirely FALSE. Internet Explorer 7 is an
> excellent browser. The low quality in your argument is your argument.
>
> William
>
> progressive realization wrote:[color=green]
>> I was afraid that firefox, Maxthon and Avantbrowser would lose lots of
>> dedicated users (well not ff users that much because
>> they love it for too many reasons) with the release of IE7. But now the
>> incredibly low quality of IE7 is a gift to those people who were working
>> on those alternative browsers. It seems that THEY are the ones who will
>> bring browsers to another level an keep advancing the technology.
>>
>> I urge you to take a look at these alternative "shells" and firefox if
>> you have not done it yet:
>>
>> In other words, my main tip for IE7 users is to avoid using it :-) (hehe
>> I know.. I know but IE7s User interface is reeaaaalllllly bad)
>>
>> [url]www.avantbrowser.com[/url] >> this is the best shell (or alternative user
>> interface) for the IE6 or IE7 rendering engine.
>> If you want the extra security but hate the IE7 interface, install IE7
>> but use the avantbrowser shell (interface).
>> [url]www.Maxthon.com[/url] >> version 2.0 is coming very soon.. and it looks
>> nice....
>>
>> and of course Firefox [url]www.getfirefox.com[/url]
>>
>> Firefox has a simple interface when you first install it, BUT this
>> browser can do almost anything imaginable with add-ons,
>> so after installing it, go to tools> add-ons and explore the site... you
>> will be amazed
>> [url]https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/extensions/[/url] (to install these you
>> must go to the site with firefox)
>>
>> Tip 1: Many add-ons are not yet compatible with the fresh version 2 of
>> FireFox, BUT you can use this add-on to
>> trick them into thinking you are using the older version. I have seen 95%
>> of the add-ons that I have tried work great!
>> Get it here [url]http://users.blueprintit.co.uk/~dave/web/firefox/nightly[/url]
>>
>> See screenshots on how to use it:
>> [url]http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/2797/compatible2ur7.jpg[/url]
>>
>> or if you upgraded from 1.5.x and your add-ons are no longer working..
>> see here: MAGIC!!!
>> [url]http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/5421/compatiblefz1.jpg[/url]
>>
>> NOTE: Its not possible to have tested all the FF add-ons so I can be sure
>> that something may not go wrong, so you can try these add-ons on the
>> portable version of FF you will see below, if all your add ons work good,
>> then you can install them on the normal installed version of FF
>>
>> Tip2: If you dont want to install FF but you want to try it, you can use
>> the PORTABLE version from here
>> [url]www.portableapps.com[/url] RC3 is the SAME build (same thing) as version 2.0
>> Portable apps normally are used on removable drives like USB sticks, but
>> no one says you cant use them on your hard drive
>> as normal programs! Thats what I do to avoid installing too much
>> stuff.....
>>
>> I am unfortunately leaving out opera... I am doing this on purpose..
>> because they insist on holding on to their "strange" interface,
>> that alienates new users....
>>
>>[/color][/color]

I have installed it and run it without a problem on many computers. It is an
EXCELLENT browser!


"Alias~-" <notever@aolhell.net> wrote in message
news:%23DL$eDc%23GHA.1224@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> William wrote:[color=green]
>> The premise of our argument is entirely FALSE. Internet Explorer 7 is an
>> excellent browser.[/color]
>
> LOL! If you can get it installed and after you configure all the work
> arounds, it's a POS. It is excellent for providing repairs techs with lots
> of work when IE7 is force fed through auto update.
>[color=green]
>> The low quality in your argument is your argument.
>>
>> William[/color]
>
> My, first an unsubstantiated claim that IE7 is excellent and then an ad
> hominem attack. You, sir, have no argument.
>
> Alias[color=green]
>>
>> progressive realization wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> I was afraid that firefox, Maxthon and Avantbrowser would lose lots of
>>> dedicated users (well not ff users that much because
>>> they love it for too many reasons) with the release of IE7. But now the
>>> incredibly low quality of IE7 is a gift to those people who were working
>>> on those alternative browsers. It seems that THEY are the ones who will
>>> bring browsers to another level an keep advancing the technology.
>>>
>>> I urge you to take a look at these alternative "shells" and firefox if
>>> you have not done it yet:
>>>
>>> In other words, my main tip for IE7 users is to avoid using it :-) (hehe
>>> I know.. I know but IE7s User interface is reeaaaalllllly bad)
>>>
>>> [url]www.avantbrowser.com[/url] >> this is the best shell (or alternative user
>>> interface) for the IE6 or IE7 rendering engine.
>>> If you want the extra security but hate the IE7 interface, install IE7
>>> but use the avantbrowser shell (interface).
>>> [url]www.Maxthon.com[/url] >> version 2.0 is coming very soon.. and it looks
>>> nice....
>>>
>>> and of course Firefox [url]www.getfirefox.com[/url]
>>>
>>> Firefox has a simple interface when you first install it, BUT this
>>> browser can do almost anything imaginable with add-ons,
>>> so after installing it, go to tools> add-ons and explore the site... you
>>> will be amazed
>>> [url]https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/extensions/[/url] (to install these you
>>> must go to the site with firefox)
>>>
>>> Tip 1: Many add-ons are not yet compatible with the fresh version 2 of
>>> FireFox, BUT you can use this add-on to
>>> trick them into thinking you are using the older version. I have seen
>>> 95% of the add-ons that I have tried work great!
>>> Get it here [url]http://users.blueprintit.co.uk/~dave/web/firefox/nightly[/url]
>>>
>>> See screenshots on how to use it:
>>> [url]http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/2797/compatible2ur7.jpg[/url]
>>>
>>> or if you upgraded from 1.5.x and your add-ons are no longer working..
>>> see here: MAGIC!!!
>>> [url]http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/5421/compatiblefz1.jpg[/url]
>>>
>>> NOTE: Its not possible to have tested all the FF add-ons so I can be
>>> sure that something may not go wrong, so you can try these add-ons on
>>> the
>>> portable version of FF you will see below, if all your add ons work
>>> good, then you can install them on the normal installed version of FF
>>>
>>> Tip2: If you dont want to install FF but you want to try it, you can use
>>> the PORTABLE version from here
>>> [url]www.portableapps.com[/url] RC3 is the SAME build (same thing) as version 2.0
>>> Portable apps normally are used on removable drives like USB sticks, but
>>> no one says you cant use them on your hard drive
>>> as normal programs! Thats what I do to avoid installing too much
>>> stuff.....
>>>
>>> I am unfortunately leaving out opera... I am doing this on purpose..
>>> because they insist on holding on to their "strange" interface,
>>> that alienates new users....
>>>
>>>
>>>[/color][/color][/color]

I have had NOT HAD ANY PROBLEMS installing and running Internet Explorer 7
on any computer. No crashes, no problems with the tabs, no problems with any
other application, no need to customize the browser (I like the clean simple
look much better than the junky cluttered look of Avant or Maxthon). And
computers are not new to me, I have been in the Computer industry for 25
years.

William

"progressive realization" <-> wrote in message
news:uCQJgJc%23GHA.3480@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Dont ask me.. read all the posts in this newsgroups and see what people
> are saying.
> If you have no problems then one or more or all of the following things
> have happened:
>
> 1) You are extreamly lucky (it did not crash, the tabs worked, it did not
> wreak other software)
> 2) You are not a power user. In other words you dont want or need to
> customize the browser,
> or you use it for simple browsing.
> 3) Your computer has been formated or windows installed recently and you
> have a limited number of programs installed.
> 4) You have bad taste
> 5) You are not a "seasoned" computer user and the problems are invisible
> to you.
> 6) You are Bill Gates, a MVP or you work for Microsoft.
>
> Sorry...
>
>[/color]

William wrote:[color=blue]
> Many people have problems with life also, but the vast majority of
> people run it just fine, especially the version that come with Windows
> Vista.[/color]

"Life" comes with Vista and is a "version"? Please explain.
[color=blue]
> Internet Explorer 7 and Firefox 2 are the best browsers.[/color]

Opinion.
[color=blue]
> I am
> sure there are people who have problems with Firefox 2,[/color]

Speculation.

however, I am[color=blue]
> not one of them.
>
> FACT not opinion.[/color]

I haven't seen you post a fact yet.

Alias[color=blue]
>
>
> Alias~- wrote:[color=green]
>> William wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> I have installed it and run it without a problem on many computers.
>>> It is an EXCELLENT browser![/color]
>>
>> Your opinion, not a fact. Many people have had problems with it. So
>> far, I haven't seen anyone have problems with FF2.
>>[/color][/color]

The following is a link to the FF help forum (similar to this one). You will
find people having problems with FF. There are also newsgroups devoted to the
same topic and I assume they also have posts.

[url]http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewforum.php?f=38[/url]

"Alias~-" wrote:
[color=blue]
> William wrote:[color=green]
> > I have installed it and run it without a problem on many computers. It
> > is an EXCELLENT browser![/color]
>
> Your opinion, not a fact. Many people have had problems with it. So far,
> I haven't seen anyone have problems with FF2.
>
> Alias[color=green]
> >
> >
> > "Alias~-" <notever@aolhell.net> wrote in message
> > news:%23DL$eDc%23GHA.1224@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
> >> William wrote:
> >>> The premise of our argument is entirely FALSE. Internet Explorer 7 is
> >>> an excellent browser.
> >>
> >> LOL! If you can get it installed and after you configure all the work
> >> arounds, it's a POS. It is excellent for providing repairs techs with
> >> lots of work when IE7 is force fed through auto update.
> >>
> >>> The low quality in your argument is your argument.
> >>>
> >>> William
> >>
> >> My, first an unsubstantiated claim that IE7 is excellent and then an
> >> ad hominem attack. You, sir, have no argument.
> >>
> >> Alias
> >>>
> >>> progressive realization wrote:
> >>>> I was afraid that firefox, Maxthon and Avantbrowser would lose lots
> >>>> of dedicated users (well not ff users that much because
> >>>> they love it for too many reasons) with the release of IE7. But now
> >>>> the incredibly low quality of IE7 is a gift to those people who were
> >>>> working on those alternative browsers. It seems that THEY are the
> >>>> ones who will bring browsers to another level an keep advancing the
> >>>> technology.
> >>>>
> >>>> I urge you to take a look at these alternative "shells" and firefox
> >>>> if you have not done it yet:
> >>>>
> >>>> In other words, my main tip for IE7 users is to avoid using it :-)
> >>>> (hehe I know.. I know but IE7s User interface is reeaaaalllllly bad)
> >>>>
> >>>> [url]www.avantbrowser.com[/url] >> this is the best shell (or alternative user
> >>>> interface) for the IE6 or IE7 rendering engine.
> >>>> If you want the extra security but hate the IE7 interface, install
> >>>> IE7 but use the avantbrowser shell (interface).
> >>>> [url]www.Maxthon.com[/url] >> version 2.0 is coming very soon.. and it looks
> >>>> nice....
> >>>>
> >>>> and of course Firefox [url]www.getfirefox.com[/url]
> >>>>
> >>>> Firefox has a simple interface when you first install it, BUT this
> >>>> browser can do almost anything imaginable with add-ons,
> >>>> so after installing it, go to tools> add-ons and explore the site...
> >>>> you will be amazed
> >>>> [url]https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/extensions/[/url] (to install these
> >>>> you must go to the site with firefox)
> >>>>
> >>>> Tip 1: Many add-ons are not yet compatible with the fresh version 2
> >>>> of FireFox, BUT you can use this add-on to
> >>>> trick them into thinking you are using the older version. I have
> >>>> seen 95% of the add-ons that I have tried work great!
> >>>> Get it here [url]http://users.blueprintit.co.uk/~dave/web/firefox/nightly[/url]
> >>>>
> >>>> See screenshots on how to use it:
> >>>> [url]http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/2797/compatible2ur7.jpg[/url]
> >>>>
> >>>> or if you upgraded from 1.5.x and your add-ons are no longer
> >>>> working.. see here: MAGIC!!!
> >>>> [url]http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/5421/compatiblefz1.jpg[/url]
> >>>>
> >>>> NOTE: Its not possible to have tested all the FF add-ons so I can be
> >>>> sure that something may not go wrong, so you can try these add-ons
> >>>> on the
> >>>> portable version of FF you will see below, if all your add ons work
> >>>> good, then you can install them on the normal installed version of FF
> >>>>
> >>>> Tip2: If you dont want to install FF but you want to try it, you can
> >>>> use the PORTABLE version from here
> >>>> [url]www.portableapps.com[/url] RC3 is the SAME build (same thing) as version
> >>>> 2.0
> >>>> Portable apps normally are used on removable drives like USB sticks,
> >>>> but no one says you cant use them on your hard drive
> >>>> as normal programs! Thats what I do to avoid installing too much
> >>>> stuff.....
> >>>>
> >>>> I am unfortunately leaving out opera... I am doing this on purpose..
> >>>> because they insist on holding on to their "strange" interface,
> >>>> that alienates new users....
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>[/color]
> >[/color]
>[/color]

William wrote:[color=blue]
> You can install and run Firefox 2 on a computer running Vista. I think
> it actually runs better on Vista than on XP.
>
> William[/color]

You can install it on Linux, Win98, WinMe, W2K and you can't install IE7
on those platforms. I guess that makes Firefox "better"?

Heh.

Alias[color=blue]
>
> pippin wrote:[color=green]
>> any pre-install advice as I yet to upgrade my XP computers to IE7?
>> I was looking forward to a tabbed IE but after using IE in Vista the
>> prospect of the new release for XP didn't have me downloading ASAP.
>>
>> I did install FF2 & the release candidates for this browser - love it
>> but miss it in Vista :( I have just made a full backup of one of my XP
>> computers before any decision to install IE7 don't want this on an
>> auto as I would prefer to know when I am going to install. Read
>> various posts about install problems - presume the less running in the
>> background the more chance of a successful install?
>>
>> I will still use FF as my main browser but know the odd time I have to
>> run IE.
>>
>>
>> "William" wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> I have had NOT HAD ANY PROBLEMS installing and running Internet
>>> Explorer 7 on any computer. No crashes, no problems with the tabs, no
>>> problems with any other application, no need to customize the browser
>>> (I like the clean simple look much better than the junky cluttered
>>> look of Avant or Maxthon). And computers are not new to me, I have
>>> been in the Computer industry for 25 years.
>>>
>>> William
>>>
>>> "progressive realization" <-> wrote in message
>>> news:uCQJgJc%23GHA.3480@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> Dont ask me.. read all the posts in this newsgroups and see what
>>>> people are saying.
>>>> If you have no problems then one or more or all of the following
>>>> things have happened:
>>>>
>>>> 1) You are extreamly lucky (it did not crash, the tabs worked, it
>>>> did not wreak other software)
>>>> 2) You are not a power user. In other words you dont want or need to
>>>> customize the browser,
>>>> or you use it for simple browsing.
>>>> 3) Your computer has been formated or windows installed recently and
>>>> you have a limited number of programs installed.
>>>> 4) You have bad taste
>>>> 5) You are not a "seasoned" computer user and the problems are
>>>> invisible to you.
>>>> 6) You are Bill Gates, a MVP or you work for Microsoft.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry...
>>>>
>>>>[/color][/color][/color]

> easy to use, even a Caveman, ... or my wife, can use it.'

I thought a saw IE7 on one episode of the flintstones....

nah.... cant be... hehe


"William" <woogles@charter.net> wrote in message
news:umyIJoc%23GHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> My wife upgraded her own computer with Internet Explorer 7 and runs it
> just fine without a problem, and she is hardly a tech geek. 'It is so easy
> to use, even a Caveman, ... or my wife, can use it.'
>
> Internet Explorer 6 was a piece of junk, however, Internet Explorer 7 is
> the best thing since... well, move over sliced bread!
>
> William
>
> Alias~- wrote:[color=green]
>> William wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> The premise of our argument is entirely FALSE. Internet Explorer 7 is an
>>> excellent browser.[/color]
>>
>> LOL! If you can get it installed and after you configure all the work
>> arounds, it's a POS. It is excellent for providing repairs techs with
>> lots of work when IE7 is force fed through auto update.
>>[/color][/color]

Funny!!!

Change to another browser to emulate the previous one.

Àngel.
[color=blue]
> One of the main reasons people avoid using FireFox is that it cannot
> render all the sites correctly and only IE can...
> well... install this Add-on and create a TAB with the IE rendering engine
> within Firefox!!!
> [url]https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/1419/[/url]
>
> in other words you use firefox, but the tab is actually loading the
> internet explorer engine!
> So everything is displayed correctly.[/color]

After you install the add-on

You right click on the TOOLBARS and select Customize.. you find the IETAB
icon and you DRAG it onto your toolbar...

thats it... when you press it it will load the page with the IE engine

See the 2 screenshots
step 1>> [url]http://img328.imageshack.us/img328/3444/mozilla01nv6.jpg[/url]

step 2>> [url]http://img328.imageshack.us/img328/2364/customize02hp6.jpg[/url]

-K




"progressive realization" <-> wrote in message
news:uhkSQ4a%23GHA.3352@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> How could I forget this???
>
> One of the main reasons people avoid using FireFox is that it cannot
> render all the sites correctly and only IE can...
> well... install this Add-on and create a TAB with the IE rendering engine
> within Firefox!!!
> [url]https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/1419/[/url]
>
> in other words you use firefox, but the tab is actually loading the
> internet explorer engine!
> So everything is displayed correctly.
>
>
> "progressive realization" <-> wrote in message
> news:%23kFI$ya%23GHA.4356@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>>I was afraid that firefox, Maxthon and Avantbrowser would lose lots of
>>dedicated users (well not ff users that much because
>> they love it for too many reasons) with the release of IE7. But now the
>> incredibly low quality of IE7 is a gift to those people who were working
>> on those alternative browsers. It seems that THEY are the ones who will
>> bring browsers to another level an keep advancing the technology.
>>
>> I urge you to take a look at these alternative "shells" and firefox if
>> you have not done it yet:
>>
>> In other words, my main tip for IE7 users is to avoid using it :-) (hehe
>> I know.. I know but IE7s User interface is reeaaaalllllly bad)
>>
>> [url]www.avantbrowser.com[/url] >> this is the best shell (or alternative user
>> interface) for the IE6 or IE7 rendering engine.
>> If you want the extra security but hate the IE7 interface, install IE7
>> but use the avantbrowser shell (interface).
>> [url]www.Maxthon.com[/url] >> version 2.0 is coming very soon.. and it looks
>> nice....
>>
>> and of course Firefox [url]www.getfirefox.com[/url]
>>
>> Firefox has a simple interface when you first install it, BUT this
>> browser can do almost anything imaginable with add-ons,
>> so after installing it, go to tools> add-ons and explore the site... you
>> will be amazed
>> [url]https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/extensions/[/url] (to install these you
>> must go to the site with firefox)
>>
>> Tip 1: Many add-ons are not yet compatible with the fresh version 2 of
>> FireFox, BUT you can use this add-on to
>> trick them into thinking you are using the older version. I have seen 95%
>> of the add-ons that I have tried work great!
>> Get it here [url]http://users.blueprintit.co.uk/~dave/web/firefox/nightly[/url]
>>
>> See screenshots on how to use it:
>> [url]http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/2797/compatible2ur7.jpg[/url]
>>
>> or if you upgraded from 1.5.x and your add-ons are no longer working..
>> see here: MAGIC!!!
>> [url]http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/5421/compatiblefz1.jpg[/url]
>>
>> NOTE: Its not possible to have tested all the FF add-ons so I can be sure
>> that something may not go wrong, so you can try these add-ons on the
>> portable version of FF you will see below, if all your add ons work good,
>> then you can install them on the normal installed version of FF
>>
>> Tip2: If you dont want to install FF but you want to try it, you can use
>> the PORTABLE version from here
>> [url]www.portableapps.com[/url] RC3 is the SAME build (same thing) as version 2.0
>> Portable apps normally are used on removable drives like USB sticks, but
>> no one says you cant use them on your hard drive
>> as normal programs! Thats what I do to avoid installing too much
>> stuff.....
>>
>> I am unfortunately leaving out opera... I am doing this on purpose..
>> because they insist on holding on to their "strange" interface,
>> that alienates new users....
>>
>>
>>[/color]
>
>[/color]

well actually no... the logic is that you use firefox engine mostly.... and
only in some sites that have not been build to be
universally correct with all browsers (stab here) you can use the IE tab.

There are linux users who have no way to use IE... so those sites are
snobing them...

I believe that if you are going to make a site, find a way to make it for
everyone.


"Angel Massa" <angel@puntweb.com> wrote in message
news:8297806A-06D8-4006-82F8-84A52F516237@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> Funny!!!
>
> Change to another browser to emulate the previous one.
>
> Àngel.
>[color=green]
>> One of the main reasons people avoid using FireFox is that it cannot
>> render all the sites correctly and only IE can...
>> well... install this Add-on and create a TAB with the IE rendering engine
>> within Firefox!!!
>> [url]https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/1419/[/url]
>>
>> in other words you use firefox, but the tab is actually loading the
>> internet explorer engine!
>> So everything is displayed correctly.[/color]
>[/color]

I'm really confused. I think you should have another version of IE7 that I
have.

Since I started using IE7 on Vista I'm in love with it. It's super fast, the
new interface is very well designed and much better. You need a couple of
days to get used to it after some years using IE6 but then is great.

All the new features and security options are good for me and has all the
features that IE6 missed from Firefox. For me is a perfect browser.

Regards,
Angel.
[color=blue]
>I was afraid that firefox, Maxthon and Avantbrowser would lose lots of
>dedicated users (well not ff users that much because
> they love it for too many reasons) with the release of IE7. But now the
> incredibly low quality of IE7 is a gift to those people who were working
> on those alternative browsers. It seems that THEY are the ones who will
> bring browsers to another level an keep advancing the technology.
>
> I urge you to take a look at these alternative "shells" and firefox if you
> have not done it yet:
>
> In other words, my main tip for IE7 users is to avoid using it :-) (hehe I
> know.. I know but IE7s User interface is reeaaaalllllly bad)[/color]

I am[color=blue][color=green]
>> sure there are people who have problems with Firefox 2,[/color]
>
> Speculation.
>
> however, I am[color=green]
>> not one of them.
>>
>> FACT not opinion.[/color]
>
> I haven't seen you post a fact yet.[/color]


The gentleman is saying that he has NOT had a problem with Firefox, and you
do not call that a fact?

What else do you need.

Do you even actually read these posts? Or is it that you are so against
anything Microsoft that your emotions take over your sensibilities?


--

Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

"Alias~-" <notever@aolhell.net> wrote in message
news:uceIdyc%23GHA.1200@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> William wrote:[color=green]
>> Many people have problems with life also, but the vast majority of people
>> run it just fine, especially the version that come with Windows Vista.[/color]
>
> "Life" comes with Vista and is a "version"? Please explain.
>[color=green]
>> Internet Explorer 7 and Firefox 2 are the best browsers.[/color]
>
> Opinion.
>[color=green]
>> I am sure there are people who have problems with Firefox 2,[/color]
>
> Speculation.
>
> however, I am[color=green]
>> not one of them.
>>
>> FACT not opinion.[/color]
>
> I haven't seen you post a fact yet.
>
> Alias[color=green]
>>
>>
>> Alias~- wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> William wrote:
>>>> I have installed it and run it without a problem on many computers. It
>>>> is an EXCELLENT browser!
>>>
>>> Your opinion, not a fact. Many people have had problems with it. So far,
>>> I haven't seen anyone have problems with FF2.
>>>[/color][/color][/color]

Good reply. I agree with you.

Although I don't agree with the bad comments about IE7. For me is a great
browser.

Regards,
Angel.
[color=blue]
> well actually no... the logic is that you use firefox engine mostly....
> and only in some sites that have not been build to be
> universally correct with all browsers (stab here) you can use the IE tab.
>
> There are linux users who have no way to use IE... so those sites are
> snobing them...
>
> I believe that if you are going to make a site, find a way to make it for
> everyone.[/color]

Richard Urban wrote:[color=blue]
> I am[color=green][color=darkred]
>>> sure there are people who have problems with Firefox 2,[/color]
>> Speculation.
>>
>> however, I am[color=darkred]
>>> not one of them.
>>>
>>> FACT not opinion.[/color]
>> I haven't seen you post a fact yet.[/color]
>
>
> The gentleman is saying that he has NOT had a problem with Firefox, and you
> do not call that a fact?[/color]

OK, one fact.
[color=blue]
> What else do you need.[/color]

Let's see. A yacht. An island in the south Pacific. A cottage in the
mountains. A condo overlooking the Mediterranean Sea. Magically become
18 again with all the knowledge I have now. A few million dollars in the
bank ...
[color=blue]
> Do you even actually read these posts? Or is it that you are so against
> anything Microsoft that your emotions take over your sensibilities?[/color]

Actually, I like XP and liked the previous OSes. I don't like the policy
of treating paying customers like criminals but I guess I'm just weird.

Alias