Please do not list problems, but only facts: which options are missed or
excluded from Vista
General:
=====
1. Cannot drag and drop files into cmd window
2. Cannot drag and drop menus from Start > Programs into Quick Launch folder
3. Shutdown default options do not include: Restart and Switch User option.

Vista Mail:
=======
missing options:
1.[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>>>play sound when new mail arrives in specified folder <<<[/color][/color][/color]
I do not wish to be notified with each junk email arrival!!!!!
2.
The same for the Systray new mail notification icon.
3.
Read receipts settings in Options should be available separately for each
account.
Very often one mail account is set as a business account (I need to receive
the read receipts from it) and another account is private account where read
requests are not needed.

Jack

Disk Defragmenter:
Slow
No legend
No progress bar
No estimated time left

Sound recorder:
Very basic - no option but to record and save - oh well, I use Audacity now
for sound recording

Windows Media Player 11:
No option of editing tag information through the playlist - you have to go
to the library
No option to easily view album information anymore
Visualizations are slow - both on XP and Vista, but they're slower on Vista.
Visualizations in WMP10 were much faster and smoother.
mfpmp.exe eats way too many resources - 10% of my CPU and 20MB of RAM all
the time when WMP11 is running and playing the correct file types that makes
mfpmp run.

Appearance:
The ugly black title bar when maximized in Aero Glass
The lack of Luna or Royale - I'd personally like to see a white, silver, and
black version of the Royale appearance for Vista.

Customization:
No option that I can find to turn off or on hibernation
No option of specifying how much HD space System Restore can use anymore
No option to automatically logon anymore that I can find
Only one choice for those users who want to run Vista Basic - the light,
pale blue.

Setting up the network is more complicated. In XP, there was a wizard to
walk you through it, in Vista, you have to use the complicated Network
Center (once you find it of course) that also turns password protection on
by default, which is a pain in the you know what (not to mention the major
bugs I've encountered with the networking in Vista - since you don't want
the bugs, I won't mention them), and I have to change my workgroup name in
the system properties.

"Jack" <notreplyto@it> wrote in message
news:%23sppUwV9GHA.4572@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Please do not list problems, but only facts: which options are missed or
> excluded from Vista
> General:
> =====
> 1. Cannot drag and drop files into cmd window
> 2. Cannot drag and drop menus from Start > Programs into Quick Launch
> folder
> 3. Shutdown default options do not include: Restart and Switch User
> option.
>
> Vista Mail:
> =======
> missing options:
> 1.[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>>play sound when new mail arrives in specified folder <<<[/color][/color]
> I do not wish to be notified with each junk email arrival!!!!!
> 2.
> The same for the Systray new mail notification icon.
> 3.
> Read receipts settings in Options should be available separately for each
> account.
> Very often one mail account is set as a business account (I need to
> receive the read receipts from it) and another account is private account
> where read requests are not needed.
>
> Jack
>
>[/color]

Dido on the Disk Defrag. My initial defrag after upgrading to RC1 5600, took
over 2 hours. In XP my weekly defrag took about 15-20 minutes.
FYI, I'm on a Dell 600M laptop, with a Celeron 1.4GB processor, 40GB HD and
1GB of RAM.

"Travis King" wrote:
[color=blue]
> Disk Defragmenter:
> Slow
> No legend
> No progress bar
> No estimated time left
>
> Sound recorder:
> Very basic - no option but to record and save - oh well, I use Audacity now
> for sound recording
>
> Windows Media Player 11:
> No option of editing tag information through the playlist - you have to go
> to the library
> No option to easily view album information anymore
> Visualizations are slow - both on XP and Vista, but they're slower on Vista.
> Visualizations in WMP10 were much faster and smoother.
> mfpmp.exe eats way too many resources - 10% of my CPU and 20MB of RAM all
> the time when WMP11 is running and playing the correct file types that makes
> mfpmp run.
>
> Appearance:
> The ugly black title bar when maximized in Aero Glass
> The lack of Luna or Royale - I'd personally like to see a white, silver, and
> black version of the Royale appearance for Vista.
>
> Customization:
> No option that I can find to turn off or on hibernation
> No option of specifying how much HD space System Restore can use anymore
> No option to automatically logon anymore that I can find
> Only one choice for those users who want to run Vista Basic - the light,
> pale blue.
>
> Setting up the network is more complicated. In XP, there was a wizard to
> walk you through it, in Vista, you have to use the complicated Network
> Center (once you find it of course) that also turns password protection on
> by default, which is a pain in the you know what (not to mention the major
> bugs I've encountered with the networking in Vista - since you don't want
> the bugs, I won't mention them), and I have to change my workgroup name in
> the system properties.
>
> "Jack" <notreplyto@it> wrote in message
> news:%23sppUwV9GHA.4572@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=green]
> > Please do not list problems, but only facts: which options are missed or
> > excluded from Vista
> > General:
> > =====
> > 1. Cannot drag and drop files into cmd window
> > 2. Cannot drag and drop menus from Start > Programs into Quick Launch
> > folder
> > 3. Shutdown default options do not include: Restart and Switch User
> > option.
> >
> > Vista Mail:
> > =======
> > missing options:
> > 1.[color=darkred]
> >>>>play sound when new mail arrives in specified folder <<<[/color]
> > I do not wish to be notified with each junk email arrival!!!!!
> > 2.
> > The same for the Systray new mail notification icon.
> > 3.
> > Read receipts settings in Options should be available separately for each
> > account.
> > Very often one mail account is set as a business account (I need to
> > receive the read receipts from it) and another account is private account
> > where read requests are not needed.
> >
> > Jack
> >
> >[/color]
>
>[/color]

"thbjr(removethis)********.com"
<thbjrremovethishotmailcom@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:D7BC2A76-8E3A-4706-BEED-4997C7CFD030@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> Dido on the Disk Defrag. My initial defrag after upgrading to RC1 5600,
> took
> over 2 hours. In XP my weekly defrag took about 15-20 minutes.
> FYI, I'm on a Dell 600M laptop, with a Celeron 1.4GB processor, 40GB HD
> and
> 1GB of RAM.[/color]

In Vista defrag is designed to be an automated background task hence lack of
UI options. It uses low-priority I/O so you can continue your normal work
while defrag is running. If you need more options, use command-line
interface - defrag.exe.


--
Alexander Suhovey

....and another thing. Since I am the only user on my laptop, where is the
need for those annoying USER ACCOUNT CONTROL "Windows needs your permission
to continue" pop-up windows??? I found you can turn that option off in
Control Panel/User accounts/Turn User Account Control on or off, but what is
the point of it if there is only 1 user account on the computer?

"thbjr(removethis)********.com" wrote:
[color=blue]
> Dido on the Disk Defrag. My initial defrag after upgrading to RC1 5600, took
> over 2 hours. In XP my weekly defrag took about 15-20 minutes.
> FYI, I'm on a Dell 600M laptop, with a Celeron 1.4GB processor, 40GB HD and
> 1GB of RAM.
>
> "Travis King" wrote:
>[color=green]
> > Disk Defragmenter:
> > Slow
> > No legend
> > No progress bar
> > No estimated time left
> >
> > Sound recorder:
> > Very basic - no option but to record and save - oh well, I use Audacity now
> > for sound recording
> >
> > Windows Media Player 11:
> > No option of editing tag information through the playlist - you have to go
> > to the library
> > No option to easily view album information anymore
> > Visualizations are slow - both on XP and Vista, but they're slower on Vista.
> > Visualizations in WMP10 were much faster and smoother.
> > mfpmp.exe eats way too many resources - 10% of my CPU and 20MB of RAM all
> > the time when WMP11 is running and playing the correct file types that makes
> > mfpmp run.
> >
> > Appearance:
> > The ugly black title bar when maximized in Aero Glass
> > The lack of Luna or Royale - I'd personally like to see a white, silver, and
> > black version of the Royale appearance for Vista.
> >
> > Customization:
> > No option that I can find to turn off or on hibernation
> > No option of specifying how much HD space System Restore can use anymore
> > No option to automatically logon anymore that I can find
> > Only one choice for those users who want to run Vista Basic - the light,
> > pale blue.
> >
> > Setting up the network is more complicated. In XP, there was a wizard to
> > walk you through it, in Vista, you have to use the complicated Network
> > Center (once you find it of course) that also turns password protection on
> > by default, which is a pain in the you know what (not to mention the major
> > bugs I've encountered with the networking in Vista - since you don't want
> > the bugs, I won't mention them), and I have to change my workgroup name in
> > the system properties.
> >
> > "Jack" <notreplyto@it> wrote in message
> > news:%23sppUwV9GHA.4572@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
> > > Please do not list problems, but only facts: which options are missed or
> > > excluded from Vista
> > > General:
> > > =====
> > > 1. Cannot drag and drop files into cmd window
> > > 2. Cannot drag and drop menus from Start > Programs into Quick Launch
> > > folder
> > > 3. Shutdown default options do not include: Restart and Switch User
> > > option.
> > >
> > > Vista Mail:
> > > =======
> > > missing options:
> > > 1.
> > >>>>play sound when new mail arrives in specified folder <<<
> > > I do not wish to be notified with each junk email arrival!!!!!
> > > 2.
> > > The same for the Systray new mail notification icon.
> > > 3.
> > > Read receipts settings in Options should be available separately for each
> > > account.
> > > Very often one mail account is set as a business account (I need to
> > > receive the read receipts from it) and another account is private account
> > > where read requests are not needed.
> > >
> > > Jack
> > >
> > >[/color]
> >
> >[/color][/color]

You haven't got a clue, do you, as to why ACL is in the system?

--

Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

"thbjr(removethis)********.com"
<thbjrremovethishotmailcom@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:9F7EA887-7C6F-404E-B287-97BC0F69EC02@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> ...and another thing. Since I am the only user on my laptop, where is the
> need for those annoying USER ACCOUNT CONTROL "Windows needs your
> permission
> to continue" pop-up windows??? I found you can turn that option off in
> Control Panel/User accounts/Turn User Account Control on or off, but what
> is
> the point of it if there is only 1 user account on the computer?
>
> "thbjr(removethis)********.com" wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Dido on the Disk Defrag. My initial defrag after upgrading to RC1 5600,
>> took
>> over 2 hours. In XP my weekly defrag took about 15-20 minutes.
>> FYI, I'm on a Dell 600M laptop, with a Celeron 1.4GB processor, 40GB HD
>> and
>> 1GB of RAM.
>>
>> "Travis King" wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>> > Disk Defragmenter:
>> > Slow
>> > No legend
>> > No progress bar
>> > No estimated time left
>> >
>> > Sound recorder:
>> > Very basic - no option but to record and save - oh well, I use Audacity
>> > now
>> > for sound recording
>> >
>> > Windows Media Player 11:
>> > No option of editing tag information through the playlist - you have to
>> > go
>> > to the library
>> > No option to easily view album information anymore
>> > Visualizations are slow - both on XP and Vista, but they're slower on
>> > Vista.
>> > Visualizations in WMP10 were much faster and smoother.
>> > mfpmp.exe eats way too many resources - 10% of my CPU and 20MB of RAM
>> > all
>> > the time when WMP11 is running and playing the correct file types that
>> > makes
>> > mfpmp run.
>> >
>> > Appearance:
>> > The ugly black title bar when maximized in Aero Glass
>> > The lack of Luna or Royale - I'd personally like to see a white,
>> > silver, and
>> > black version of the Royale appearance for Vista.
>> >
>> > Customization:
>> > No option that I can find to turn off or on hibernation
>> > No option of specifying how much HD space System Restore can use
>> > anymore
>> > No option to automatically logon anymore that I can find
>> > Only one choice for those users who want to run Vista Basic - the
>> > light,
>> > pale blue.
>> >
>> > Setting up the network is more complicated. In XP, there was a wizard
>> > to
>> > walk you through it, in Vista, you have to use the complicated Network
>> > Center (once you find it of course) that also turns password protection
>> > on
>> > by default, which is a pain in the you know what (not to mention the
>> > major
>> > bugs I've encountered with the networking in Vista - since you don't
>> > want
>> > the bugs, I won't mention them), and I have to change my workgroup name
>> > in
>> > the system properties.
>> >
>> > "Jack" <notreplyto@it> wrote in message
>> > news:%23sppUwV9GHA.4572@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> > > Please do not list problems, but only facts: which options are missed
>> > > or
>> > > excluded from Vista
>> > > General:
>> > > =====
>> > > 1. Cannot drag and drop files into cmd window
>> > > 2. Cannot drag and drop menus from Start > Programs into Quick Launch
>> > > folder
>> > > 3. Shutdown default options do not include: Restart and Switch User
>> > > option.
>> > >
>> > > Vista Mail:
>> > > =======
>> > > missing options:
>> > > 1.
>> > >>>>play sound when new mail arrives in specified folder <<<
>> > > I do not wish to be notified with each junk email arrival!!!!!
>> > > 2.
>> > > The same for the Systray new mail notification icon.
>> > > 3.
>> > > Read receipts settings in Options should be available separately for
>> > > each
>> > > account.
>> > > Very often one mail account is set as a business account (I need to
>> > > receive the read receipts from it) and another account is private
>> > > account
>> > > where read requests are not needed.
>> > >
>> > > Jack
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >[/color][/color][/color]

Pardon me. That is UAC. Do you know what it is there for?

--

Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

"thbjr(removethis)********.com"
<thbjrremovethishotmailcom@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:9F7EA887-7C6F-404E-B287-97BC0F69EC02@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> ...and another thing. Since I am the only user on my laptop, where is the
> need for those annoying USER ACCOUNT CONTROL "Windows needs your
> permission
> to continue" pop-up windows??? I found you can turn that option off in
> Control Panel/User accounts/Turn User Account Control on or off, but what
> is
> the point of it if there is only 1 user account on the computer?
>
> "thbjr(removethis)********.com" wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Dido on the Disk Defrag. My initial defrag after upgrading to RC1 5600,
>> took
>> over 2 hours. In XP my weekly defrag took about 15-20 minutes.
>> FYI, I'm on a Dell 600M laptop, with a Celeron 1.4GB processor, 40GB HD
>> and
>> 1GB of RAM.
>>
>> "Travis King" wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>> > Disk Defragmenter:
>> > Slow
>> > No legend
>> > No progress bar
>> > No estimated time left
>> >
>> > Sound recorder:
>> > Very basic - no option but to record and save - oh well, I use Audacity
>> > now
>> > for sound recording
>> >
>> > Windows Media Player 11:
>> > No option of editing tag information through the playlist - you have to
>> > go
>> > to the library
>> > No option to easily view album information anymore
>> > Visualizations are slow - both on XP and Vista, but they're slower on
>> > Vista.
>> > Visualizations in WMP10 were much faster and smoother.
>> > mfpmp.exe eats way too many resources - 10% of my CPU and 20MB of RAM
>> > all
>> > the time when WMP11 is running and playing the correct file types that
>> > makes
>> > mfpmp run.
>> >
>> > Appearance:
>> > The ugly black title bar when maximized in Aero Glass
>> > The lack of Luna or Royale - I'd personally like to see a white,
>> > silver, and
>> > black version of the Royale appearance for Vista.
>> >
>> > Customization:
>> > No option that I can find to turn off or on hibernation
>> > No option of specifying how much HD space System Restore can use
>> > anymore
>> > No option to automatically logon anymore that I can find
>> > Only one choice for those users who want to run Vista Basic - the
>> > light,
>> > pale blue.
>> >
>> > Setting up the network is more complicated. In XP, there was a wizard
>> > to
>> > walk you through it, in Vista, you have to use the complicated Network
>> > Center (once you find it of course) that also turns password protection
>> > on
>> > by default, which is a pain in the you know what (not to mention the
>> > major
>> > bugs I've encountered with the networking in Vista - since you don't
>> > want
>> > the bugs, I won't mention them), and I have to change my workgroup name
>> > in
>> > the system properties.
>> >
>> > "Jack" <notreplyto@it> wrote in message
>> > news:%23sppUwV9GHA.4572@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> > > Please do not list problems, but only facts: which options are missed
>> > > or
>> > > excluded from Vista
>> > > General:
>> > > =====
>> > > 1. Cannot drag and drop files into cmd window
>> > > 2. Cannot drag and drop menus from Start > Programs into Quick Launch
>> > > folder
>> > > 3. Shutdown default options do not include: Restart and Switch User
>> > > option.
>> > >
>> > > Vista Mail:
>> > > =======
>> > > missing options:
>> > > 1.
>> > >>>>play sound when new mail arrives in specified folder <<<
>> > > I do not wish to be notified with each junk email arrival!!!!!
>> > > 2.
>> > > The same for the Systray new mail notification icon.
>> > > 3.
>> > > Read receipts settings in Options should be available separately for
>> > > each
>> > > account.
>> > > Very often one mail account is set as a business account (I need to
>> > > receive the read receipts from it) and another account is private
>> > > account
>> > > where read requests are not needed.
>> > >
>> > > Jack
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >[/color][/color][/color]

"thbjr(removethis)********.com" wrote:
[color=blue]
> ...and another thing. Since I am the only user on my laptop, where is the
> need for those annoying USER ACCOUNT CONTROL "Windows needs your permission
> to continue" pop-up windows??? I found you can turn that option off in
> Control Panel/User accounts/Turn User Account Control on or off, but what is
> the point of it if there is only 1 user account on the computer?
>[/color]

Malware (viruses, spyware, et cetera) usually - and, on previous versions of
Windows, silently - performs questionable actions during installation,
propagation, and operation. The prompt is intended to give the user a way to
detect such operations and prevent them from occurring. This may prevent
some malware from operating without the user's knowledge.

--
tmike
tmike at tmike your dot pants com
(to email, remove your pants)

HeXX, YOU don't even know what it is!
I've been following the reports.
Memory Hog. Slow as molasses in winter.
Use it twice and buy new.
Oh, yeah, and bets are high you've got spyware built in to talk back to
Gate's replacement.

After the fiasco of WGA and that odd bit about "notify", then ramming
updates past our settings, this one fixes it for us.

When XP dies, we will no longer be using ANYTHING from Gates and Co.

Fairly certain the EU will make sure there is a viable option.

"Richard Urban" wrote:
[color=blue]
> Pardon me. That is UAC. Do you know what it is there for?
>
> --
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard Urban
> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>
> Quote from George Ankner:
> If you knew as much as you think you know,
> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>
> "thbjr(removethis)********.com"
> <thbjrremovethishotmailcom@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:9F7EA887-7C6F-404E-B287-97BC0F69EC02@microsoft.com...[color=green]
> > ...and another thing. Since I am the only user on my laptop, where is the
> > need for those annoying USER ACCOUNT CONTROL "Windows needs your
> > permission
> > to continue" pop-up windows??? I found you can turn that option off in
> > Control Panel/User accounts/Turn User Account Control on or off, but what
> > is
> > the point of it if there is only 1 user account on the computer?
> >
> > "thbjr(removethis)********.com" wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> >> Dido on the Disk Defrag. My initial defrag after upgrading to RC1 5600,
> >> took
> >> over 2 hours. In XP my weekly defrag took about 15-20 minutes.
> >> FYI, I'm on a Dell 600M laptop, with a Celeron 1.4GB processor, 40GB HD
> >> and
> >> 1GB of RAM.
> >>
> >> "Travis King" wrote:
> >>
> >> > Disk Defragmenter:
> >> > Slow
> >> > No legend
> >> > No progress bar
> >> > No estimated time left
> >> >
> >> > Sound recorder:
> >> > Very basic - no option but to record and save - oh well, I use Audacity
> >> > now
> >> > for sound recording
> >> >
> >> > Windows Media Player 11:
> >> > No option of editing tag information through the playlist - you have to
> >> > go
> >> > to the library
> >> > No option to easily view album information anymore
> >> > Visualizations are slow - both on XP and Vista, but they're slower on
> >> > Vista.
> >> > Visualizations in WMP10 were much faster and smoother.
> >> > mfpmp.exe eats way too many resources - 10% of my CPU and 20MB of RAM
> >> > all
> >> > the time when WMP11 is running and playing the correct file types that
> >> > makes
> >> > mfpmp run.
> >> >
> >> > Appearance:
> >> > The ugly black title bar when maximized in Aero Glass
> >> > The lack of Luna or Royale - I'd personally like to see a white,
> >> > silver, and
> >> > black version of the Royale appearance for Vista.
> >> >
> >> > Customization:
> >> > No option that I can find to turn off or on hibernation
> >> > No option of specifying how much HD space System Restore can use
> >> > anymore
> >> > No option to automatically logon anymore that I can find
> >> > Only one choice for those users who want to run Vista Basic - the
> >> > light,
> >> > pale blue.
> >> >
> >> > Setting up the network is more complicated. In XP, there was a wizard
> >> > to
> >> > walk you through it, in Vista, you have to use the complicated Network
> >> > Center (once you find it of course) that also turns password protection
> >> > on
> >> > by default, which is a pain in the you know what (not to mention the
> >> > major
> >> > bugs I've encountered with the networking in Vista - since you don't
> >> > want
> >> > the bugs, I won't mention them), and I have to change my workgroup name
> >> > in
> >> > the system properties.
> >> >
> >> > "Jack" <notreplyto@it> wrote in message
> >> > news:%23sppUwV9GHA.4572@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >> > > Please do not list problems, but only facts: which options are missed
> >> > > or
> >> > > excluded from Vista
> >> > > General:
> >> > > =====
> >> > > 1. Cannot drag and drop files into cmd window
> >> > > 2. Cannot drag and drop menus from Start > Programs into Quick Launch
> >> > > folder
> >> > > 3. Shutdown default options do not include: Restart and Switch User
> >> > > option.
> >> > >
> >> > > Vista Mail:
> >> > > =======
> >> > > missing options:
> >> > > 1.
> >> > >>>>play sound when new mail arrives in specified folder <<<
> >> > > I do not wish to be notified with each junk email arrival!!!!!
> >> > > 2.
> >> > > The same for the Systray new mail notification icon.
> >> > > 3.
> >> > > Read receipts settings in Options should be available separately for
> >> > > each
> >> > > account.
> >> > > Very often one mail account is set as a business account (I need to
> >> > > receive the read receipts from it) and another account is private
> >> > > account
> >> > > where read requests are not needed.
> >> > >
> >> > > Jack
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >[/color][/color]
>
>
>[/color]

I answered a post specifically about UAC. Your response to me has what to do
with the same?

--

Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

"Curmudgeon" <Curmudgeon@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:68DD5982-126E-417E-81D2-AAD661348947@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> HeXX, YOU don't even know what it is!
> I've been following the reports.
> Memory Hog. Slow as molasses in winter.
> Use it twice and buy new.
> Oh, yeah, and bets are high you've got spyware built in to talk back to
> Gate's replacement.
>
> After the fiasco of WGA and that odd bit about "notify", then ramming
> updates past our settings, this one fixes it for us.
>
> When XP dies, we will no longer be using ANYTHING from Gates and Co.
>
> Fairly certain the EU will make sure there is a viable option.
>
> "Richard Urban" wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Pardon me. That is UAC. Do you know what it is there for?
>>
>> --
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Richard Urban
>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>>
>> Quote from George Ankner:
>> If you knew as much as you think you know,
>> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>>
>> "thbjr(removethis)********.com"
>> <thbjrremovethishotmailcom@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:9F7EA887-7C6F-404E-B287-97BC0F69EC02@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
>> > ...and another thing. Since I am the only user on my laptop, where is
>> > the
>> > need for those annoying USER ACCOUNT CONTROL "Windows needs your
>> > permission
>> > to continue" pop-up windows??? I found you can turn that option off in
>> > Control Panel/User accounts/Turn User Account Control on or off, but
>> > what
>> > is
>> > the point of it if there is only 1 user account on the computer?
>> >
>> > "thbjr(removethis)********.com" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Dido on the Disk Defrag. My initial defrag after upgrading to RC1
>> >> 5600,
>> >> took
>> >> over 2 hours. In XP my weekly defrag took about 15-20 minutes.
>> >> FYI, I'm on a Dell 600M laptop, with a Celeron 1.4GB processor, 40GB
>> >> HD
>> >> and
>> >> 1GB of RAM.
>> >>
>> >> "Travis King" wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Disk Defragmenter:
>> >> > Slow
>> >> > No legend
>> >> > No progress bar
>> >> > No estimated time left
>> >> >
>> >> > Sound recorder:
>> >> > Very basic - no option but to record and save - oh well, I use
>> >> > Audacity
>> >> > now
>> >> > for sound recording
>> >> >
>> >> > Windows Media Player 11:
>> >> > No option of editing tag information through the playlist - you have
>> >> > to
>> >> > go
>> >> > to the library
>> >> > No option to easily view album information anymore
>> >> > Visualizations are slow - both on XP and Vista, but they're slower
>> >> > on
>> >> > Vista.
>> >> > Visualizations in WMP10 were much faster and smoother.
>> >> > mfpmp.exe eats way too many resources - 10% of my CPU and 20MB of
>> >> > RAM
>> >> > all
>> >> > the time when WMP11 is running and playing the correct file types
>> >> > that
>> >> > makes
>> >> > mfpmp run.
>> >> >
>> >> > Appearance:
>> >> > The ugly black title bar when maximized in Aero Glass
>> >> > The lack of Luna or Royale - I'd personally like to see a white,
>> >> > silver, and
>> >> > black version of the Royale appearance for Vista.
>> >> >
>> >> > Customization:
>> >> > No option that I can find to turn off or on hibernation
>> >> > No option of specifying how much HD space System Restore can use
>> >> > anymore
>> >> > No option to automatically logon anymore that I can find
>> >> > Only one choice for those users who want to run Vista Basic - the
>> >> > light,
>> >> > pale blue.
>> >> >
>> >> > Setting up the network is more complicated. In XP, there was a
>> >> > wizard
>> >> > to
>> >> > walk you through it, in Vista, you have to use the complicated
>> >> > Network
>> >> > Center (once you find it of course) that also turns password
>> >> > protection
>> >> > on
>> >> > by default, which is a pain in the you know what (not to mention the
>> >> > major
>> >> > bugs I've encountered with the networking in Vista - since you don't
>> >> > want
>> >> > the bugs, I won't mention them), and I have to change my workgroup
>> >> > name
>> >> > in
>> >> > the system properties.
>> >> >
>> >> > "Jack" <notreplyto@it> wrote in message
>> >> > news:%23sppUwV9GHA.4572@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> >> > > Please do not list problems, but only facts: which options are
>> >> > > missed
>> >> > > or
>> >> > > excluded from Vista
>> >> > > General:
>> >> > > =====
>> >> > > 1. Cannot drag and drop files into cmd window
>> >> > > 2. Cannot drag and drop menus from Start > Programs into Quick
>> >> > > Launch
>> >> > > folder
>> >> > > 3. Shutdown default options do not include: Restart and Switch
>> >> > > User
>> >> > > option.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Vista Mail:
>> >> > > =======
>> >> > > missing options:
>> >> > > 1.
>> >> > >>>>play sound when new mail arrives in specified folder <<<
>> >> > > I do not wish to be notified with each junk email arrival!!!!!
>> >> > > 2.
>> >> > > The same for the Systray new mail notification icon.
>> >> > > 3.
>> >> > > Read receipts settings in Options should be available separately
>> >> > > for
>> >> > > each
>> >> > > account.
>> >> > > Very often one mail account is set as a business account (I need
>> >> > > to
>> >> > > receive the read receipts from it) and another account is private
>> >> > > account
>> >> > > where read requests are not needed.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Jack
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >> >[/color]
>>
>>
>>[/color][/color]

"Travis King" wrote: "No option that I can find to turn off or on
hibernation"

Here's how to turn hibernation off.
1/ Open a Command prompt

2/ At the command prompt type: powercfg -H off



--
J6


"Travis King" wrote:
[color=blue]
> Disk Defragmenter:
> Slow
> No legend"Travis King" wrote:
> No progress bar
> No estimated time left
>
> Sound recorder:
> Very basic - no option but to record and save - oh well, I use Audacity now
> for sound recording
>
> Windows Media Player 11:
> No option of editing tag information through the playlist - you have to go
> to the library
> No option to easily view album information anymore
> Visualizations are slow - both on XP and Vista, but they're slower on Vista.
> Visualizations in WMP10 were much faster and smoother.
> mfpmp.exe eats way too many resources - 10% of my CPU and 20MB of RAM all
> the time when WMP11 is running and playing the correct file types that makes
> mfpmp run.
>
> Appearance:
> The ugly black title bar when maximized in Aero Glass
> The lack of Luna or Royale - I'd personally like to see a white, silver, and
> black version of the Royale appearance for Vista.
>
> Customization:
> No option that I can find to turn off or on hibernation
> No option of specifying how much HD space System Restore can use anymore
> No option to automatically logon anymore that I can find
> Only one choice for those users who want to run Vista Basic - the light,
> pale blue.
>
> Setting up the network is more complicated. In XP, there was a wizard to
> walk you through it, in Vista, you have to use the complicated Network
> Center (once you find it of course) that also turns password protection on
> by default, which is a pain in the you know what (not to mention the major
> bugs I've encountered with the networking in Vista - since you don't want
> the bugs, I won't mention them), and I have to change my workgroup name in
> the system properties.
>
> "Jack" <notreplyto@it> wrote in message
> news:%23sppUwV9GHA.4572@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=green]
> > Please do not list problems, but only facts: which options are missed or
> > excluded from Vista
> > General:
> > =====
> > 1. Cannot drag and drop files into cmd window
> > 2. Cannot drag and drop menus from Start > Programs into Quick Launch
> > folder
> > 3. Shutdown default options do not include: Restart and Switch User
> > option.
> >
> > Vista Mail:
> > =======
> > missing options:
> > 1.[color=darkred]
> >>>>play sound when new mail arrives in specified folder <<<[/color]
> > I do not wish to be notified with each junk email arrival!!!!!
> > 2.
> > The same for the Systray new mail notification icon.
> > 3.
> > Read receipts settings in Options should be available separately for each
> > account.
> > Very often one mail account is set as a business account (I need to
> > receive the read receipts from it) and another account is private account
> > where read requests are not needed.
> >
> > Jack
> >
> >[/color]
>
>[/color]

OK, so it is trying to protect me from installing something that may not be
what it claims to be. That's a good thing, I guess, but why does it repeat
itself every time I try to do the same task in a program. Take AVG. If I want
to run a manual update, it ask pemission. For the first update, OK, but for
any subsuquent manual update, perhaps the UAC should be tweeked to recognise
that I don't need to give permission for the 2nd - 999th manual update.
Perhaps a check box in the UAC permission box that allows/indicates
permission for the program being questioned is no longer needed?

"tmike" wrote:
[color=blue]
> "thbjr(removethis)********.com" wrote:
>[color=green]
> > ...and another thing. Since I am the only user on my laptop, where is the
> > need for those annoying USER ACCOUNT CONTROL "Windows needs your permission
> > to continue" pop-up windows??? I found you can turn that option off in
> > Control Panel/User accounts/Turn User Account Control on or off, but what is
> > the point of it if there is only 1 user account on the computer?
> >[/color]
>
> Malware (viruses, spyware, et cetera) usually - and, on previous versions of
> Windows, silently - performs questionable actions during installation,
> propagation, and operation. The prompt is intended to give the user a way to
> detect such operations and prevent them from occurring. This may prevent
> some malware from operating without the user's knowledge.
>
> --
> tmike
> tmike at tmike your dot pants com
> (to email, remove your pants)
>
>[/color]

And what if something gets on your system that emulates AVG.

If "you" have not initiated AVG yourself, but all of a sudden you get a
popup asking to allow it, do you want THAT to go through automatically? I
sure wouldn't! I would want to investigate the request first before I
allowed it to happen.

That is what UAC is all about. It is a little bit of inconvenience for a lot
more security than Windows XP offers.

--

Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

"thbjr(removethis)********.com"
<thbjrremovethishotmailcom@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:D928D68D-8F8E-496A-A038-586FBAE182B6@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> OK, so it is trying to protect me from installing something that may not
> be
> what it claims to be. That's a good thing, I guess, but why does it repeat
> itself every time I try to do the same task in a program. Take AVG. If I
> want
> to run a manual update, it ask pemission. For the first update, OK, but
> for
> any subsuquent manual update, perhaps the UAC should be tweeked to
> recognise
> that I don't need to give permission for the 2nd - 999th manual update.
> Perhaps a check box in the UAC permission box that allows/indicates
> permission for the program being questioned is no longer needed?
>
> "tmike" wrote:
>[color=green]
>> "thbjr(removethis)********.com" wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>> > ...and another thing. Since I am the only user on my laptop, where is
>> > the
>> > need for those annoying USER ACCOUNT CONTROL "Windows needs your
>> > permission
>> > to continue" pop-up windows??? I found you can turn that option off in
>> > Control Panel/User accounts/Turn User Account Control on or off, but
>> > what is
>> > the point of it if there is only 1 user account on the computer?
>> >[/color]
>>
>> Malware (viruses, spyware, et cetera) usually - and, on previous versions
>> of
>> Windows, silently - performs questionable actions during installation,
>> propagation, and operation. The prompt is intended to give the user a
>> way to
>> detect such operations and prevent them from occurring. This may prevent
>> some malware from operating without the user's knowledge.
>>
>> --
>> tmike
>> tmike at tmike your dot pants com
>> (to email, remove your pants)
>>
>>[/color][/color]

Thanks.
I believe it's already off on my computer because it's not in my options of
shut-down choices.
Secondly, why are they making some things such as this less user friendly?
"J6" <J6@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:F7E23E82-DC59-4299-BB22-0395B8BBAF4B@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> "Travis King" wrote: "No option that I can find to turn off or on
> hibernation"
>
> Here's how to turn hibernation off.
> 1/ Open a Command prompt
>
> 2/ At the command prompt type: powercfg -H off
>
>
>
> --
> J6
>
>
> "Travis King" wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Disk Defragmenter:
>> Slow
>> No legend"Travis King" wrote:
>> No progress bar
>> No estimated time left
>>
>> Sound recorder:
>> Very basic - no option but to record and save - oh well, I use Audacity
>> now
>> for sound recording
>>
>> Windows Media Player 11:
>> No option of editing tag information through the playlist - you have to
>> go
>> to the library
>> No option to easily view album information anymore
>> Visualizations are slow - both on XP and Vista, but they're slower on
>> Vista.
>> Visualizations in WMP10 were much faster and smoother.
>> mfpmp.exe eats way too many resources - 10% of my CPU and 20MB of RAM all
>> the time when WMP11 is running and playing the correct file types that
>> makes
>> mfpmp run.
>>
>> Appearance:
>> The ugly black title bar when maximized in Aero Glass
>> The lack of Luna or Royale - I'd personally like to see a white, silver,
>> and
>> black version of the Royale appearance for Vista.
>>
>> Customization:
>> No option that I can find to turn off or on hibernation
>> No option of specifying how much HD space System Restore can use anymore
>> No option to automatically logon anymore that I can find
>> Only one choice for those users who want to run Vista Basic - the light,
>> pale blue.
>>
>> Setting up the network is more complicated. In XP, there was a wizard to
>> walk you through it, in Vista, you have to use the complicated Network
>> Center (once you find it of course) that also turns password protection
>> on
>> by default, which is a pain in the you know what (not to mention the
>> major
>> bugs I've encountered with the networking in Vista - since you don't want
>> the bugs, I won't mention them), and I have to change my workgroup name
>> in
>> the system properties.
>>
>> "Jack" <notreplyto@it> wrote in message
>> news:%23sppUwV9GHA.4572@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>> > Please do not list problems, but only facts: which options are missed
>> > or
>> > excluded from Vista
>> > General:
>> > =====
>> > 1. Cannot drag and drop files into cmd window
>> > 2. Cannot drag and drop menus from Start > Programs into Quick Launch
>> > folder
>> > 3. Shutdown default options do not include: Restart and Switch User
>> > option.
>> >
>> > Vista Mail:
>> > =======
>> > missing options:
>> > 1.
>> >>>>play sound when new mail arrives in specified folder <<<
>> > I do not wish to be notified with each junk email arrival!!!!!
>> > 2.
>> > The same for the Systray new mail notification icon.
>> > 3.
>> > Read receipts settings in Options should be available separately for
>> > each
>> > account.
>> > Very often one mail account is set as a business account (I need to
>> > receive the read receipts from it) and another account is private
>> > account
>> > where read requests are not needed.
>> >
>> > Jack
>> >
>> >[/color]
>>
>>[/color][/color]

You haven't got a clue, do you, as to why ACL is in the system?
Regards,
Richard Urban

then:

Pardon me. That is UAC. Do you know what it is there for?
Regards,
Richard Urban

"Richard Urban" wrote:

I answered a post specifically about UAC. Your response to me has what to do
with the same?

Regards,
Richard Urban

If it's so confusing an MVP can't keep it straight?

Funny thing about what you put in print.
It's there for all to see.