Upon complete install, I find that I cannot connect to the internet using
windows IE 7 or Firefox. I know that my system is pinging out and recieving
back. No windows load, and though I show recieving packets I have no access
to the world wide web. I have learned that Microsoft does not support any
installation issues and would recommend anyone RUN from VISTA, they will not
support any questions and will not advise how to uninstall. They emailed me
asking me to try this product for them yet the have no customer service or
any thing that resembles immediate help. I am in a situation that I will
have to purchase a new tower this weekend or consider myself unemployed. I
will not purchase any more products from Microsoft or any company that Bill
Gates is connected with in any way. I will go to Mac for anything in the
future. If they think that I have the time to waste they are too self
assured that I will become dependant on them or their products. I am
reporting them to the FCC and my states consumer affairs division.

They (Microsoft) do not just email you out of the blue asking you to try
Vista. You signed up somewhere to get this notification. Therefore, you
showed a previous interest in trying Vista.

If you had read the warnings on the download page you are clearly instructed
<**NOT**> to install Vista beta on a production machine. You also do
<**NOT**> install Vista on a machine where you can NOT afford to possibly
lose "everything".

Now, when you are done feeling sorry for yourself, ask some questions about
how you may be able to recover from "your" errors.

If you do not desire to ask questions, happy unemployment!

--

Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

"DO NOT USE VISTA--Boycott Microsoft" <DO NOT USE VISTA--Boycott
[email]Microsoft@discussions.microsoft.com[/email]> wrote in message
news:897E69E0-1F96-415A-9547-AC6F11836BDB@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> Upon complete install, I find that I cannot connect to the internet using
> windows IE 7 or Firefox. I know that my system is pinging out and
> recieving
> back. No windows load, and though I show recieving packets I have no
> access
> to the world wide web. I have learned that Microsoft does not support any
> installation issues and would recommend anyone RUN from VISTA, they will
> not
> support any questions and will not advise how to uninstall. They emailed
> me
> asking me to try this product for them yet the have no customer service or
> any thing that resembles immediate help. I am in a situation that I will
> have to purchase a new tower this weekend or consider myself unemployed.
> I
> will not purchase any more products from Microsoft or any company that
> Bill
> Gates is connected with in any way. I will go to Mac for anything in the
> future. If they think that I have the time to waste they are too self
> assured that I will become dependant on them or their products. I am
> reporting them to the FCC and my states consumer affairs division.[/color]

Have you try to type a url ( website ) instead of starting up your browser ,
Also how is your email client ? Is that working ?


"DO NOT USE VISTA--Boycott Microsoft" <DO NOT USE VISTA--Boycott
[email]Microsoft@discussions.microsoft.com[/email]> wrote in message
news:897E69E0-1F96-415A-9547-AC6F11836BDB@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> Upon complete install, I find that I cannot connect to the internet using
> windows IE 7 or Firefox. I know that my system is pinging out and
> recieving
> back. No windows load, and though I show recieving packets I have no
> access
> to the world wide web. I have learned that Microsoft does not support any
> installation issues and would recommend anyone RUN from VISTA, they will
> not
> support any questions and will not advise how to uninstall. They emailed
> me
> asking me to try this product for them yet the have no customer service or
> any thing that resembles immediate help. I am in a situation that I will
> have to purchase a new tower this weekend or consider myself unemployed.
> I
> will not purchase any more products from Microsoft or any company that
> Bill
> Gates is connected with in any way. I will go to Mac for anything in the
> future. If they think that I have the time to waste they are too self
> assured that I will become dependant on them or their products. I am
> reporting them to the FCC and my states consumer affairs division.[/color]

Why Microsoft has created 2 classes of testers:
those using RC1 and limited number of those using RC2???
Does it make sense to you?
Why to bother RC1 if RC2 has already fixed some issues?
I hate Microsoft for playing politics like that!
Jack

"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> wrote in message
news:ux$P2RT9GHA.4408@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> They (Microsoft) do not just email you out of the blue asking you to try
> Vista. You signed up somewhere to get this notification. Therefore, you
> showed a previous interest in trying Vista.
>
> If you had read the warnings on the download page you are clearly
> instructed <**NOT**> to install Vista beta on a production machine. You
> also do <**NOT**> install Vista on a machine where you can NOT afford to
> possibly lose "everything".
>
> Now, when you are done feeling sorry for yourself, ask some questions
> about how you may be able to recover from "your" errors.
>
> If you do not desire to ask questions, happy unemployment!
>
> --
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard Urban
> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>
> Quote from George Ankner:
> If you knew as much as you think you know,
> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>
> "DO NOT USE VISTA--Boycott Microsoft" <DO NOT USE VISTA--Boycott
> [email]Microsoft@discussions.microsoft.com[/email]> wrote in message
> news:897E69E0-1F96-415A-9547-AC6F11836BDB@microsoft.com...[color=green]
>> Upon complete install, I find that I cannot connect to the internet using
>> windows IE 7 or Firefox. I know that my system is pinging out and
>> recieving
>> back. No windows load, and though I show recieving packets I have no
>> access
>> to the world wide web. I have learned that Microsoft does not support
>> any
>> installation issues and would recommend anyone RUN from VISTA, they will
>> not
>> support any questions and will not advise how to uninstall. They emailed
>> me
>> asking me to try this product for them yet the have no customer service
>> or
>> any thing that resembles immediate help. I am in a situation that I will
>> have to purchase a new tower this weekend or consider myself unemployed.
>> I
>> will not purchase any more products from Microsoft or any company that
>> Bill
>> Gates is connected with in any way. I will go to Mac for anything in the
>> future. If they think that I have the time to waste they are too self
>> assured that I will become dependant on them or their products. I am
>> reporting them to the FCC and my states consumer affairs division.[/color]
>
>[/color]

You should buy two towers to make doubly sure you are not unemployed.

"DO NOT USE VISTA--Boycott Microsoft" wrote:
[color=blue]
> Upon complete install, I find that I cannot connect to the internet using
> windows IE 7 or Firefox. I know that my system is pinging out and recieving
> back. No windows load, and though I show recieving packets I have no access
> to the world wide web. I have learned that Microsoft does not support any
> installation issues and would recommend anyone RUN from VISTA, they will not
> support any questions and will not advise how to uninstall. They emailed me
> asking me to try this product for them yet the have no customer service or
> any thing that resembles immediate help. I am in a situation that I will
> have to purchase a new tower this weekend or consider myself unemployed. I
> will not purchase any more products from Microsoft or any company that Bill
> Gates is connected with in any way. I will go to Mac for anything in the
> future. If they think that I have the time to waste they are too self
> assured that I will become dependant on them or their products. I am
> reporting them to the FCC and my states consumer affairs division.[/color]

Well thank you for your wasted time. Now what is it again that you helped me
do? Nothing on here to help or resolve, if you want to pour salt in wombs
try your own. And for the record. Yes, I have been a customer of Microsoft
for a couple of decades now. They often email me and ask for my opinions and
to rate new software. Well the rating on Vista is horrible. Still they
should aide in install or unistall issues. Searching threads all day is not
timely nor does it qualify as customer service, nor satisfaction. Greed
drives many now days. The root of all evil. Thus explaining your ignorance
and smart mouth.


"Richard Urban" wrote:
[color=blue]
> They (Microsoft) do not just email you out of the blue asking you to try
> Vista. You signed up somewhere to get this notification. Therefore, you
> showed a previous interest in trying Vista.
>
> If you had read the warnings on the download page you are clearly instructed
> <**NOT**> to install Vista beta on a production machine. You also do
> <**NOT**> install Vista on a machine where you can NOT afford to possibly
> lose "everything".
>
> Now, when you are done feeling sorry for yourself, ask some questions about
> how you may be able to recover from "your" errors.
>
> If you do not desire to ask questions, happy unemployment!
>
> --
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard Urban
> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>
> Quote from George Ankner:
> If you knew as much as you think you know,
> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>
> "DO NOT USE VISTA--Boycott Microsoft" <DO NOT USE VISTA--Boycott
> [email]Microsoft@discussions.microsoft.com[/email]> wrote in message
> news:897E69E0-1F96-415A-9547-AC6F11836BDB@microsoft.com...[color=green]
> > Upon complete install, I find that I cannot connect to the internet using
> > windows IE 7 or Firefox. I know that my system is pinging out and
> > recieving
> > back. No windows load, and though I show recieving packets I have no
> > access
> > to the world wide web. I have learned that Microsoft does not support any
> > installation issues and would recommend anyone RUN from VISTA, they will
> > not
> > support any questions and will not advise how to uninstall. They emailed
> > me
> > asking me to try this product for them yet the have no customer service or
> > any thing that resembles immediate help. I am in a situation that I will
> > have to purchase a new tower this weekend or consider myself unemployed.
> > I
> > will not purchase any more products from Microsoft or any company that
> > Bill
> > Gates is connected with in any way. I will go to Mac for anything in the
> > future. If they think that I have the time to waste they are too self
> > assured that I will become dependant on them or their products. I am
> > reporting them to the FCC and my states consumer affairs division.[/color]
>
>
>[/color]

agreed, makes no sense to me at all. If known issues are present then there
should be more than a thread to rectify. Like finding a needle in a
haystack. The smart quip's flourish.


"Jack" wrote:
[color=blue]
> Why Microsoft has created 2 classes of testers:
> those using RC1 and limited number of those using RC2???
> Does it make sense to you?
> Why to bother RC1 if RC2 has already fixed some issues?
> I hate Microsoft for playing politics like that!
> Jack
>
> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> wrote in message
> news:ux$P2RT9GHA.4408@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=green]
> > They (Microsoft) do not just email you out of the blue asking you to try
> > Vista. You signed up somewhere to get this notification. Therefore, you
> > showed a previous interest in trying Vista.
> >
> > If you had read the warnings on the download page you are clearly
> > instructed <**NOT**> to install Vista beta on a production machine. You
> > also do <**NOT**> install Vista on a machine where you can NOT afford to
> > possibly lose "everything".
> >
> > Now, when you are done feeling sorry for yourself, ask some questions
> > about how you may be able to recover from "your" errors.
> >
> > If you do not desire to ask questions, happy unemployment!
> >
> > --
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Richard Urban
> > Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
> > (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
> >
> > Quote from George Ankner:
> > If you knew as much as you think you know,
> > You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
> >
> > "DO NOT USE VISTA--Boycott Microsoft" <DO NOT USE VISTA--Boycott
> > [email]Microsoft@discussions.microsoft.com[/email]> wrote in message
> > news:897E69E0-1F96-415A-9547-AC6F11836BDB@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
> >> Upon complete install, I find that I cannot connect to the internet using
> >> windows IE 7 or Firefox. I know that my system is pinging out and
> >> recieving
> >> back. No windows load, and though I show recieving packets I have no
> >> access
> >> to the world wide web. I have learned that Microsoft does not support
> >> any
> >> installation issues and would recommend anyone RUN from VISTA, they will
> >> not
> >> support any questions and will not advise how to uninstall. They emailed
> >> me
> >> asking me to try this product for them yet the have no customer service
> >> or
> >> any thing that resembles immediate help. I am in a situation that I will
> >> have to purchase a new tower this weekend or consider myself unemployed.
> >> I
> >> will not purchase any more products from Microsoft or any company that
> >> Bill
> >> Gates is connected with in any way. I will go to Mac for anything in the
> >> future. If they think that I have the time to waste they are too self
> >> assured that I will become dependant on them or their products. I am
> >> reporting them to the FCC and my states consumer affairs division.[/color]
> >
> >[/color]
>
>
>[/color]

DO NOT USE VISTA:
Being able to assist you or give you a complete solution is very
hard without some information. Which build, x86, x64, upgrade or clean
installation and what type computer are needed to help with an answer. I've
been running Vista x86 and x64 from Beta 2 through RC2 (5744) without any
internet connection problems with NIC or wireless connections. There has
been a compatibility issue with Marvell-Yukon NIC drivers posted many times,
which using the XP drivers may cure.


"DO NOT USE VISTA--Boycott Microsoft"
<DONOTUSEVISTABoycottMicrosoft@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:61D07B8F-86DD-4591-9EB2-F733A008E985@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> Well thank you for your wasted time. Now what is it again that you helped
> me
> do? Nothing on here to help or resolve, if you want to pour salt in wombs
> try your own. And for the record. Yes, I have been a customer of
> Microsoft
> for a couple of decades now. They often email me and ask for my opinions
> and
> to rate new software. Well the rating on Vista is horrible. Still they
> should aide in install or unistall issues. Searching threads all day is
> not
> timely nor does it qualify as customer service, nor satisfaction. Greed
> drives many now days. The root of all evil. Thus explaining your
> ignorance
> and smart mouth.
>
>
> "Richard Urban" wrote:
>[color=green]
>> They (Microsoft) do not just email you out of the blue asking you to try
>> Vista. You signed up somewhere to get this notification. Therefore, you
>> showed a previous interest in trying Vista.
>>
>> If you had read the warnings on the download page you are clearly
>> instructed
>> <**NOT**> to install Vista beta on a production machine. You also do
>> <**NOT**> install Vista on a machine where you can NOT afford to possibly
>> lose "everything".
>>
>> Now, when you are done feeling sorry for yourself, ask some questions
>> about
>> how you may be able to recover from "your" errors.
>>
>> If you do not desire to ask questions, happy unemployment!
>>
>> --
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Richard Urban
>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>>
>> Quote from George Ankner:
>> If you knew as much as you think you know,
>> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>>
>> "DO NOT USE VISTA--Boycott Microsoft" <DO NOT USE VISTA--Boycott
>> [email]Microsoft@discussions.microsoft.com[/email]> wrote in message
>> news:897E69E0-1F96-415A-9547-AC6F11836BDB@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
>> > Upon complete install, I find that I cannot connect to the internet
>> > using
>> > windows IE 7 or Firefox. I know that my system is pinging out and
>> > recieving
>> > back. No windows load, and though I show recieving packets I have no
>> > access
>> > to the world wide web. I have learned that Microsoft does not support
>> > any
>> > installation issues and would recommend anyone RUN from VISTA, they
>> > will
>> > not
>> > support any questions and will not advise how to uninstall. They
>> > emailed
>> > me
>> > asking me to try this product for them yet the have no customer service
>> > or
>> > any thing that resembles immediate help. I am in a situation that I
>> > will
>> > have to purchase a new tower this weekend or consider myself
>> > unemployed.
>> > I
>> > will not purchase any more products from Microsoft or any company that
>> > Bill
>> > Gates is connected with in any way. I will go to Mac for anything in
>> > the
>> > future. If they think that I have the time to waste they are too self
>> > assured that I will become dependant on them or their products. I am
>> > reporting them to the FCC and my states consumer affairs division.[/color]
>>
>>
>>[/color][/color]

I helped you do nothing because you <***ASKED***> nothing!

All you did was bitc* and moan!

As I have said, what are your specific questions?

--

Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

"DO NOT USE VISTA--Boycott Microsoft"
<DONOTUSEVISTABoycottMicrosoft@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:61D07B8F-86DD-4591-9EB2-F733A008E985@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> Well thank you for your wasted time. Now what is it again that you helped
> me
> do? Nothing on here to help or resolve, if you want to pour salt in wombs
> try your own. And for the record. Yes, I have been a customer of
> Microsoft
> for a couple of decades now. They often email me and ask for my opinions
> and
> to rate new software. Well the rating on Vista is horrible. Still they
> should aide in install or unistall issues. Searching threads all day is
> not
> timely nor does it qualify as customer service, nor satisfaction. Greed
> drives many now days. The root of all evil. Thus explaining your
> ignorance
> and smart mouth.
>
>
> "Richard Urban" wrote:
>[color=green]
>> They (Microsoft) do not just email you out of the blue asking you to try
>> Vista. You signed up somewhere to get this notification. Therefore, you
>> showed a previous interest in trying Vista.
>>
>> If you had read the warnings on the download page you are clearly
>> instructed
>> <**NOT**> to install Vista beta on a production machine. You also do
>> <**NOT**> install Vista on a machine where you can NOT afford to possibly
>> lose "everything".
>>
>> Now, when you are done feeling sorry for yourself, ask some questions
>> about
>> how you may be able to recover from "your" errors.
>>
>> If you do not desire to ask questions, happy unemployment!
>>
>> --
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Richard Urban
>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>>
>> Quote from George Ankner:
>> If you knew as much as you think you know,
>> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>>
>> "DO NOT USE VISTA--Boycott Microsoft" <DO NOT USE VISTA--Boycott
>> [email]Microsoft@discussions.microsoft.com[/email]> wrote in message
>> news:897E69E0-1F96-415A-9547-AC6F11836BDB@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
>> > Upon complete install, I find that I cannot connect to the internet
>> > using
>> > windows IE 7 or Firefox. I know that my system is pinging out and
>> > recieving
>> > back. No windows load, and though I show recieving packets I have no
>> > access
>> > to the world wide web. I have learned that Microsoft does not support
>> > any
>> > installation issues and would recommend anyone RUN from VISTA, they
>> > will
>> > not
>> > support any questions and will not advise how to uninstall. They
>> > emailed
>> > me
>> > asking me to try this product for them yet the have no customer service
>> > or
>> > any thing that resembles immediate help. I am in a situation that I
>> > will
>> > have to purchase a new tower this weekend or consider myself
>> > unemployed.
>> > I
>> > will not purchase any more products from Microsoft or any company that
>> > Bill
>> > Gates is connected with in any way. I will go to Mac for anything in
>> > the
>> > future. If they think that I have the time to waste they are too self
>> > assured that I will become dependant on them or their products. I am
>> > reporting them to the FCC and my states consumer affairs division.[/color]
>>
>>
>>[/color][/color]

I remember the day when being a Microsoft MVP meant something like being
helpfull and courteous. Not a arrogant smart mouth punk...

"Richard Urban" wrote:
[color=blue]
> They (Microsoft) do not just email you out of the blue asking you to try
> Vista. You signed up somewhere to get this notification. Therefore, you
> showed a previous interest in trying Vista.
>
> If you had read the warnings on the download page you are clearly instructed
> <**NOT**> to install Vista beta on a production machine. You also do
> <**NOT**> install Vista on a machine where you can NOT afford to possibly
> lose "everything".
>
> Now, when you are done feeling sorry for yourself, ask some questions about
> how you may be able to recover from "your" errors.
>
> If you do not desire to ask questions, happy unemployment!
>
> --
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard Urban
> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>
> Quote from George Ankner:
> If you knew as much as you think you know,
> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>
> "DO NOT USE VISTA--Boycott Microsoft" <DO NOT USE VISTA--Boycott
> [email]Microsoft@discussions.microsoft.com[/email]> wrote in message
> news:897E69E0-1F96-415A-9547-AC6F11836BDB@microsoft.com...[color=green]
> > Upon complete install, I find that I cannot connect to the internet using
> > windows IE 7 or Firefox. I know that my system is pinging out and
> > recieving
> > back. No windows load, and though I show recieving packets I have no
> > access
> > to the world wide web. I have learned that Microsoft does not support any
> > installation issues and would recommend anyone RUN from VISTA, they will
> > not
> > support any questions and will not advise how to uninstall. They emailed
> > me
> > asking me to try this product for them yet the have no customer service or
> > any thing that resembles immediate help. I am in a situation that I will
> > have to purchase a new tower this weekend or consider myself unemployed.
> > I
> > will not purchase any more products from Microsoft or any company that
> > Bill
> > Gates is connected with in any way. I will go to Mac for anything in the
> > future. If they think that I have the time to waste they are too self
> > assured that I will become dependant on them or their products. I am
> > reporting them to the FCC and my states consumer affairs division.[/color]
>
>
>[/color]

This is a help group, not a chat room. He didn't ask for any help. He should
have posted his gripes elsewhere!

Do you know what a troll is? His post certainly fits the description of a
trolling post, one that just is there to gather responses at all costs.

This is not the place.

--

Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

"czarwyd" <czarwyd@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:F2A2E782-A8DC-413A-8A7A-66AA68CD0EAD@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
>I remember the day when being a Microsoft MVP meant something like being
> helpfull and courteous. Not a arrogant smart mouth punk...
>
> "Richard Urban" wrote:
>[color=green]
>> They (Microsoft) do not just email you out of the blue asking you to try
>> Vista. You signed up somewhere to get this notification. Therefore, you
>> showed a previous interest in trying Vista.
>>
>> If you had read the warnings on the download page you are clearly
>> instructed
>> <**NOT**> to install Vista beta on a production machine. You also do
>> <**NOT**> install Vista on a machine where you can NOT afford to possibly
>> lose "everything".
>>
>> Now, when you are done feeling sorry for yourself, ask some questions
>> about
>> how you may be able to recover from "your" errors.
>>
>> If you do not desire to ask questions, happy unemployment!
>>
>> --
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Richard Urban
>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>>
>> Quote from George Ankner:
>> If you knew as much as you think you know,
>> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>>
>> "DO NOT USE VISTA--Boycott Microsoft" <DO NOT USE VISTA--Boycott
>> [email]Microsoft@discussions.microsoft.com[/email]> wrote in message
>> news:897E69E0-1F96-415A-9547-AC6F11836BDB@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
>> > Upon complete install, I find that I cannot connect to the internet
>> > using
>> > windows IE 7 or Firefox. I know that my system is pinging out and
>> > recieving
>> > back. No windows load, and though I show recieving packets I have no
>> > access
>> > to the world wide web. I have learned that Microsoft does not support
>> > any
>> > installation issues and would recommend anyone RUN from VISTA, they
>> > will
>> > not
>> > support any questions and will not advise how to uninstall. They
>> > emailed
>> > me
>> > asking me to try this product for them yet the have no customer service
>> > or
>> > any thing that resembles immediate help. I am in a situation that I
>> > will
>> > have to purchase a new tower this weekend or consider myself
>> > unemployed.
>> > I
>> > will not purchase any more products from Microsoft or any company that
>> > Bill
>> > Gates is connected with in any way. I will go to Mac for anything in
>> > the
>> > future. If they think that I have the time to waste they are too self
>> > assured that I will become dependant on them or their products. I am
>> > reporting them to the FCC and my states consumer affairs division.[/color]
>>
>>
>>[/color][/color]