I know WinXP uses NTFS 3.1, but does Vista use a newer, better version? If
so, what are the benefits of that versus WinXP NTFS 3.1?

As far as I know it's still NTFS 3.1.
However running diskpart does show the ability to detect bitlocker...


Bill F.


"larry23" <larry23@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:148C05E1-19E2-447F-AA8E-6FCCB9F60478@microsoft.com...
>I know WinXP uses NTFS 3.1, but does Vista use a newer, better version? If
> so, what are the benefits of that versus WinXP NTFS 3.1?

Yes --Transactional NTFS and for good info on this check out

http://blogs.msdn.com/because_we_can...spx?q=ntfs&p=1

http://blogs.msdn.com/because_we_can...25/411874.aspx

http://blogs.msdn.com/because_we_can...21/410628.aspx

Webcast on Vista NTFS

MSDN Webcast: The Revolutionary Windows Vista Transactional NTFS (TxF)
Infrastructure (Level 200) Event ID: 1032294095

http://g.msn.com/9SE/1?http://mseven...=1&CS=AWP&SR=1

Enjoy.

CH

"larry23" <larry23@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:148C05E1-19E2-447F-AA8E-6FCCB9F60478@microsoft.com...
>I know WinXP uses NTFS 3.1, but does Vista use a newer, better version? If
> so, what are the benefits of that versus WinXP NTFS 3.1?

In order for me to use TxF on my current HD, do I need a full reformat with
the Final-Release Vista Boot-Disk to achieve this or is this something that
gets automatically implemented transparently on current WinXP-formatted
drives?

"Chad Harris" wrote:

> Yes --Transactional NTFS and for good info on this check out
>
> http://blogs.msdn.com/because_we_can...spx?q=ntfs&p=1
>
> http://blogs.msdn.com/because_we_can...25/411874.aspx
>
> http://blogs.msdn.com/because_we_can...21/410628.aspx
>
> Webcast on Vista NTFS
>
> MSDN Webcast: The Revolutionary Windows Vista Transactional NTFS (TxF)
> Infrastructure (Level 200) Event ID: 1032294095
>
> http://g.msn.com/9SE/1?http://mseven...=1&CS=AWP&SR=1
>
> Enjoy.
>
> CH
>
> "larry23" <larry23@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:148C05E1-19E2-447F-AA8E-6FCCB9F60478@microsoft.com...
> >I know WinXP uses NTFS 3.1, but does Vista use a newer, better version? If
> > so, what are the benefits of that versus WinXP NTFS 3.1?
>
>
>

Larry this is something that gets automatically implemented as part of
Vista--you need only install Vista. It's essentially their version of NTFS
in Vista.

An excellent set of high quality resources that frequently has new entries
on the Vista file system, numerous server issues and Vista issues, and Vista
Beta team chat reproductions is Jill Zoeller's blog. Jill has taken the
time to participate on this group, as has Darrel Gorter, two of the very few
people at MSFT Redmond Vista who do this.

See Jill Zoeller's Team Blog and her links to other blogs at
http://blogs.technet.com/filecab/default.aspx.

Take a look at the tags Jill has listed on the right of her web page. If
you're interested in some of those topics they provide a lot of valuable
information.

CH






"larry23" <larry23@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:14F44963-608E-4496-8178-E0DFA2202E1A@microsoft.com...
> In order for me to use TxF on my current HD, do I need a full reformat
> with
> the Final-Release Vista Boot-Disk to achieve this or is this something
> that
> gets automatically implemented transparently on current WinXP-formatted
> drives?
>
> "Chad Harris" wrote:
>
>> Yes --Transactional NTFS and for good info on this check out
>>
>> http://blogs.msdn.com/because_we_can...spx?q=ntfs&p=1
>>
>> http://blogs.msdn.com/because_we_can...25/411874.aspx
>>
>> http://blogs.msdn.com/because_we_can...21/410628.aspx
>>
>> Webcast on Vista NTFS
>>
>> MSDN Webcast: The Revolutionary Windows Vista Transactional NTFS (TxF)
>> Infrastructure (Level 200) Event ID: 1032294095
>>
>> http://g.msn.com/9SE/1?http://mseven...=1&CS=AWP&SR=1
>>
>> Enjoy.
>>
>> CH
>>
>> "larry23" <larry23@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:148C05E1-19E2-447F-AA8E-6FCCB9F60478@microsoft.com...
>> >I know WinXP uses NTFS 3.1, but does Vista use a newer, better version?
>> >If
>> > so, what are the benefits of that versus WinXP NTFS 3.1?
>>
>>
>>

The answer is "Yes, it does."
By the way, the version of NTFS in XP is 5.1, not 3.1
If I'm not mistaken, the version of NTFS found in Vista RTM will be
"6.something-or-other".

Donald
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lol
thats cuz xp was considered nt5-and vista most probably will be considered
nt6.

"Donald L McDaniel" <orthocross@wildblue.invalid> wrote in message
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>
> The answer is "Yes, it does."
> By the way, the version of NTFS in XP is 5.1, not 3.1
> If I'm not mistaken, the version of NTFS found in Vista RTM will be
> "6.something-or-other".
>
> Donald
> -------------------------------------------

So all-in-all to get from WinXP's NTFS 5.x to Vista's NTFS 6.x - does this
require a full reformat? Or is 6.x simply the TxF we were posting earlier
that turns any WinXP NTFS 5.1 to Vista's NTFS 6.x automatically?

"Donald L McDaniel" wrote:

>
> The answer is "Yes, it does."
> By the way, the version of NTFS in XP is 5.1, not 3.1
> If I'm not mistaken, the version of NTFS found in Vista RTM will be
> "6.something-or-other".
>
> Donald
> -------------------------------------------
>

Donald:

Use the built-in FSUTIL utility and you will find that indeed, the version
of NTFS in Windows XP/2003 is 3.1

E.g. at the Commadnd Prompt type:

fsutil fsinfo ntfsinfo c:

hit Enter

and look at the version number .. it's 3.1

It's called version 5.1 in the press after XP's NT version which is 5.1.
Windows Server 2003 uses the same version (that is: 3.1 / 5.1) of NTFS as XP
does.

Donald L McDaniel wrote:
>> The answer is "Yes, it does."
>> By the way, the version of NTFS in XP is 5.1, not 3.1
>> If I'm not mistaken, the version of NTFS found in Vista RTM will be
>> "6.something-or-other".
>>
>> Donald
>> -------------------------------------------

The version of NTFS found in RC1 x64 version of Vista is 3.1. If you know
how to use fsutil go check


"Jeff" <S.Cerevesiae@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:u87y48j9GHA.4012@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> lol
> thats cuz xp was considered nt5-and vista most probably will be considered
> nt6.
>
> "Donald L McDaniel" <orthocross@wildblue.invalid> wrote in message
> news:no4oj2h6cq4aldealhja7ed0br9bhsdb42@4ax.com...
>>
>> The answer is "Yes, it does."
>> By the way, the version of NTFS in XP is 5.1, not 3.1
>> If I'm not mistaken, the version of NTFS found in Vista RTM will be
>> "6.something-or-other".
>>
>> Donald
>> -------------------------------------------
>

Don't forget to run as administrator for Vista

"SESSION_EVENT" <session@event.net.net.net> wrote in message
news:OzWq4ik9GHA.3396@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Donald:
>
> Use the built-in FSUTIL utility and you will find that indeed, the version
> of NTFS in Windows XP/2003 is 3.1
>
> E.g. at the Commadnd Prompt type:
>
> fsutil fsinfo ntfsinfo c:
>
> hit Enter
>
> and look at the version number .. it's 3.1
>
> It's called version 5.1 in the press after XP's NT version which is 5.1.
> Windows Server 2003 uses the same version (that is: 3.1 / 5.1) of NTFS as
> XP
> does.
>
> Donald L McDaniel wrote:
>>> The answer is "Yes, it does."
>>> By the way, the version of NTFS in XP is 5.1, not 3.1
>>> If I'm not mistaken, the version of NTFS found in Vista RTM will be
>>> "6.something-or-other".
>>>
>>> Donald
>>> -------------------------------------------
>
>

Sorry - 'should have said:

Right-click on the Command Prompt link and select "Run as Administrator".


John Barnes wrote:
>> Don't forget to run as administrator for Vista
>>
>> "SESSION_EVENT" <session@event.net.net.net> wrote in message
>> news:OzWq4ik9GHA.3396@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Donald:
>>>
>>> Use the built-in FSUTIL utility and you will find that indeed, the
>>> version of NTFS in Windows XP/2003 is 3.1
>>>
>>> E.g. at the Commadnd Prompt type:
>>>
>>> fsutil fsinfo ntfsinfo c:
>>>
>>> hit Enter
>>>
>>> and look at the version number .. it's 3.1
>>>
>>> It's called version 5.1 in the press after XP's NT version which is
>>> 5.1. Windows Server 2003 uses the same version (that is: 3.1 / 5.1)
>>> of NTFS as XP
>>> does.
>>>
>>> Donald L McDaniel wrote:
>>>>> The answer is "Yes, it does."
>>>>> By the way, the version of NTFS in XP is 5.1, not 3.1
>>>>> If I'm not mistaken, the version of NTFS found in Vista RTM will
>>>>> be "6.something-or-other".
>>>>>
>>>>> Donald
>>>>> -------------------------------------------

The version of NTFS in Vista 5744 is : 6.0.5744.16384

--

Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User

Posted using Vista RC2 5744

(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

"Donald L McDaniel" <orthocross@wildblue.invalid> wrote in message
news:no4oj2h6cq4aldealhja7ed0br9bhsdb42@4ax.com...
>
> The answer is "Yes, it does."
> By the way, the version of NTFS in XP is 5.1, not 3.1
> If I'm not mistaken, the version of NTFS found in Vista RTM will be
> "6.something-or-other".
>
> Donald
> -------------------------------------------

> -----Original Message-----
> From: larry23 [mailto:larry23@discussions.microsoft.com]
> Posted At: Monday, October 23, 2006 5:59 AM
> Posted To: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
> Conversation: Does Vista use a new version of NTFS?
> Subject: Re: Does Vista use a new version of NTFS?
>
> So all-in-all to get from WinXP's NTFS 5.x to Vista's NTFS 6.x - does
this
> require a full reformat? Or is 6.x simply the TxF we were posting
earlier
> that turns any WinXP NTFS 5.1 to Vista's NTFS 6.x automatically?

Larry,

New Vista's file system features like TxF and symlinks are designed to
have minimal impact on on-disk structures. As others already pointed
out, Vista uses same version of NTFS as most recent previous versions of
Windows. You don't need to perform re-format or any other
data-destructive procedures to be able to use these new features.

For more information refer to following TechNet chat transcript:

https://blogs.technet.com/filecab/articles/457811.aspx

--
Alexander Suhovey

On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 22:12:40 -0400, "SESSION_EVENT"
<session@event.net.net.net> wrote:

>Donald:
>
>Use the built-in FSUTIL utility and you will find that indeed, the version
>of NTFS in Windows XP/2003 is 3.1
>
>E.g. at the Commadnd Prompt type:
>
>fsutil fsinfo ntfsinfo c:
>
>hit Enter
>
>and look at the version number .. it's 3.1
>
>It's called version 5.1 in the press after XP's NT version which is 5.1.
>Windows Server 2003 uses the same version (that is: 3.1 / 5.1) of NTFS as XP
>does.

I apologize in sack-cloth and ashes. fsutil does indeed return an NTFS
version of 3.1 for Windows XP w/SP2.

Since I currently do not have Vista installed, I don't know what would be
returned in Vista.

I guess I and others tend to confuse the file-system with the Operating
System.

Probably, Vista will be "Microsoft Windows 6.something", just as XP is
"Microsoft Windows 5.1.2600"

Of course, I could also be wrong about that.

Donald
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