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Old 01-01-2007, 10:01 PM
Donald L McDaniel
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Re: Does Vista use a new version of NTFS?

On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 23:28:47 -0400, "Richard Urban"
<richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> wrote:

>The version of NTFS in Vista 5744 is : 6.0.5744.16384


Actually, Richard, that is the version of Microsoft Windows Vista is, just
as Windows XP is "Microsoft Windows XP 5.1.2600".

The version of NTFS in a command prompt on my copy of "Microsoft Windows XP
5.1.2600" is apparently "3.1" ("three decimal one").

At least that is what "fsutil fsinfo ntfsinfo C:" returns to me, right
below the line which reads "NTFS volume xxxxxxxxxxxx", and is labeled
"Version" (which I assume refers to the version of NTFS residing on
"NTFS volume xxxxxxxxxxxx").

If it refers to something else, please properly educate us? After all, you
are a "Microsoft MVP shell user", and should know what it refers to better
than most.


Perhaps, though, it returns something different to you?

Donald
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Re: Does Vista use a new version of NTFS?

Right clicking on the NTFS.sys file and going to the properties/version tab
shows this information:

6.0.5744.16384

Of course, it may just be a place holder till RTM and may change.

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You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

"Donald L McDaniel" <orthocross@wildblue.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 23:28:47 -0400, "Richard Urban"
> <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> wrote:
>
>>The version of NTFS in Vista 5744 is : 6.0.5744.16384

>
> Actually, Richard, that is the version of Microsoft Windows Vista is, just
> as Windows XP is "Microsoft Windows XP 5.1.2600".
>
> The version of NTFS in a command prompt on my copy of "Microsoft Windows
> XP
> 5.1.2600" is apparently "3.1" ("three decimal one").
>
> At least that is what "fsutil fsinfo ntfsinfo C:" returns to me, right
> below the line which reads "NTFS volume xxxxxxxxxxxx", and is labeled
> "Version" (which I assume refers to the version of NTFS residing on
> "NTFS volume xxxxxxxxxxxx").
>
> If it refers to something else, please properly educate us? After all,
> you
> are a "Microsoft MVP shell user", and should know what it refers to better
> than most.
>
>
> Perhaps, though, it returns something different to you?
>
> Donald
> -------------------------------------------



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Old 01-01-2007, 10:01 PM
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Re: Does Vista use a new version of NTFS?

You are right. It is, in fact, version 3.1 as of this time. Had a brain fart
and was using file version.

My bad!

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Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

"Donald L McDaniel" <orthocross@wildblue.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 23:28:47 -0400, "Richard Urban"
> <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> wrote:
>
>>The version of NTFS in Vista 5744 is : 6.0.5744.16384

>
> Actually, Richard, that is the version of Microsoft Windows Vista is, just
> as Windows XP is "Microsoft Windows XP 5.1.2600".
>
> The version of NTFS in a command prompt on my copy of "Microsoft Windows
> XP
> 5.1.2600" is apparently "3.1" ("three decimal one").
>
> At least that is what "fsutil fsinfo ntfsinfo C:" returns to me, right
> below the line which reads "NTFS volume xxxxxxxxxxxx", and is labeled
> "Version" (which I assume refers to the version of NTFS residing on
> "NTFS volume xxxxxxxxxxxx").
>
> If it refers to something else, please properly educate us? After all,
> you
> are a "Microsoft MVP shell user", and should know what it refers to better
> than most.
>
>
> Perhaps, though, it returns something different to you?
>
> Donald
> -------------------------------------------



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Old 01-01-2007, 10:01 PM
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Re: Does Vista use a new version of NTFS?

Donald L McDaniel wrote:
> The answer is "Yes, it does."
> By the way, the version of NTFS in XP is 5.1, not 3.1
> If I'm not mistaken, the version of NTFS found in Vista RTM will be
> "6.something-or-other".
>
> Donald
> -------------------------------------------


NTFS is the same in Vista as it was in XP, and 3.1
is the actual version number.

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Re: Does Vista use a new version of NTFS?

larry23 wrote:
> So all-in-all to get from WinXP's NTFS 5.x to Vista's NTFS 6.x - does this
> require a full reformat? Or is 6.x simply the TxF we were posting earlier
> that turns any WinXP NTFS 5.1 to Vista's NTFS 6.x automatically?
>
> "Donald L McDaniel" wrote:
>
>> The answer is "Yes, it does."
>> By the way, the version of NTFS in XP is 5.1, not 3.1
>> If I'm not mistaken, the version of NTFS found in Vista RTM will be
>> "6.something-or-other".
>>
>> Donald
>> -------------------------------------------
>>


No change in NTFS, nothing to upgrade.

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Old 01-01-2007, 10:01 PM
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Re: Does Vista use a new version of NTFS?

John Barnes wrote:
> The version of NTFS found in RC1 x64 version of Vista is 3.1. If you
> know how to use fsutil go check
>
>
> "Jeff" <S.Cerevesiae@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:u87y48j9GHA.4012@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> lol
>> thats cuz xp was considered nt5-and vista most probably will be
>> considered nt6.
>>
>> "Donald L McDaniel" <orthocross@wildblue.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:no4oj2h6cq4aldealhja7ed0br9bhsdb42@4ax.com...
>>>
>>> The answer is "Yes, it does."
>>> By the way, the version of NTFS in XP is 5.1, not 3.1
>>> If I'm not mistaken, the version of NTFS found in Vista RTM will be
>>> "6.something-or-other".
>>>
>>> Donald
>>> -------------------------------------------

>>

>


You guys will learn to take anything Donald
McDaniel says with a grain of salt, as most
anything he says is wrong.

Steve
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Old 01-01-2007, 10:02 PM
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Re: Does Vista use a new version of NTFS?

Well the press does call it 5.1 so ..

... this was all gone over with Windows XP way back when.

You can call it 5.1. and you can call it 3.1. Heck, call it "FAT34", most
people won't know.

Donald L McDaniel wrote:
>> On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 22:12:40 -0400, "SESSION_EVENT"
>> <session@event.net.net.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Donald:
>>>
>>> Use the built-in FSUTIL utility and you will find that indeed, the
>>> version of NTFS in Windows XP/2003 is 3.1
>>>
>>> E.g. at the Commadnd Prompt type:
>>>
>>> fsutil fsinfo ntfsinfo c:
>>>
>>> hit Enter
>>>
>>> and look at the version number .. it's 3.1
>>>
>>> It's called version 5.1 in the press after XP's NT version which is
>>> 5.1. Windows Server 2003 uses the same version (that is: 3.1 / 5.1)
>>> of NTFS as XP does.

>>
>> I apologize in sack-cloth and ashes. fsutil does indeed return an
>> NTFS version of 3.1 for Windows XP w/SP2.
>>
>> Since I currently do not have Vista installed, I don't know what
>> would be returned in Vista.
>>
>> I guess I and others tend to confuse the file-system with the
>> Operating System.
>>
>> Probably, Vista will be "Microsoft Windows 6.something", just as XP
>> is "Microsoft Windows 5.1.2600"
>>
>> Of course, I could also be wrong about that.
>>
>> Donald
>> -------------------------------------------



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