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Old 01-01-2007, 09:43 PM
Brossyg
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Fastest performance, best value?

I am currently running XP Pro 32-bit with a 3 gig Pentium 4 with 1 gig of RAM
in a SOHO environment. My most taxing app is MS Access running a 250 meg
database with lots of bells & whistles. The database regularly uses 100+% of
my CPU. The rest of the apps are pretty standard Office apps. I rip CDs
often with Win Media Player 11, which uses 100+% of my CPU.

I would describe myself as a "practical" early-adopter, but not a gearhead.

After Jan 1, 2007 I plan to buy a new computer. I am thinking of a
2nd-from-the fastest Core2Duo with 64-bit Vista, the new Office 2007, 10k or
15k SAS drives and 2 gig of RAM. Alternatively, I might use the 5100 series
Xeon chip.

What configuration would be the fastest, but also best value? Will the
Office 2007 version of Access be a speed demon on 64-bit Vista with a
Core2Duo, or does 64-bit make a difference with these basic Office apps? I
haven't been able to find a concise article that lays this out for the SOHO
user.

Thanks for your thoughts.
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Old 01-01-2007, 09:43 PM
John Jay Smith
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Re: Fastest performance, best value?

LOL can you please post some webcam photos of your face when you are
horrified with the performance of vista and office 2007???

PLEASE?

A sound recording of you swearing at vista would be nice too...

thank you


"Brossyg" <Brossyg@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:D1361F0E-8B70-4F3D-81CC-80AE98EF40CA@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
>I am currently running XP Pro 32-bit with a 3 gig Pentium 4 with 1 gig of
>RAM
> in a SOHO environment. My most taxing app is MS Access running a 250 meg
> database with lots of bells & whistles. The database regularly uses 100+%
> of
> my CPU. The rest of the apps are pretty standard Office apps. I rip CDs
> often with Win Media Player 11, which uses 100+% of my CPU.
>
> I would describe myself as a "practical" early-adopter, but not a
> gearhead.
>
> After Jan 1, 2007 I plan to buy a new computer. I am thinking of a
> 2nd-from-the fastest Core2Duo with 64-bit Vista, the new Office 2007, 10k
> or
> 15k SAS drives and 2 gig of RAM. Alternatively, I might use the 5100
> series
> Xeon chip.
>
> What configuration would be the fastest, but also best value? Will the
> Office 2007 version of Access be a speed demon on 64-bit Vista with a
> Core2Duo, or does 64-bit make a difference with these basic Office apps?
> I
> haven't been able to find a concise article that lays this out for the
> SOHO
> user.
>
> Thanks for your thoughts.[/color]


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Re: Fastest performance, best value?


Based on ? A beta version ?

People like you make me laugh, you have nothing better to do than bash MS
all days, what a sad, sad life you must have.

KL.


"John Jay Smith" <-> skrev i meddelandet
news:eSCvw377GHA.2384@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> LOL can you please post some webcam photos of your face when you are
> horrified with the performance of vista and office 2007???
>
> PLEASE?
>
> A sound recording of you swearing at vista would be nice too...
>
> thank you[/color]


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Old 01-01-2007, 09:44 PM
KL
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Re: Fastest performance, best value?


You can run it on your current machine but for the future dual core (or
more) is certainly the way to go, it just makes sense considering the amount
of multitasking even an average user has. Also, 64 bit is absolutely
necessary, there are just so many limitations in 32bit to be feasable in the
future although it wil of course take a long time before everything is 64
bit.

About Access, currently there is no 64 bit odbc access driver, meaning if
you have applications that depend on it (for example classic asp pages
running on a dev machine) you might have a problem switching to 64 bit,
although Access itself works just fine.

KL.


"Brossyg" <Brossyg@discussions.microsoft.com> skrev i meddelandet
news:D1361F0E-8B70-4F3D-81CC-80AE98EF40CA@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
>I am currently running XP Pro 32-bit with a 3 gig Pentium 4 with 1 gig of
>RAM
> in a SOHO environment. My most taxing app is MS Access running a 250 meg
> database with lots of bells & whistles. The database regularly uses 100+%
> of
> my CPU. The rest of the apps are pretty standard Office apps. I rip CDs
> often with Win Media Player 11, which uses 100+% of my CPU.
>
> I would describe myself as a "practical" early-adopter, but not a
> gearhead.
> ....[/color]


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Old 01-01-2007, 09:44 PM
John Jay Smith
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Re: Fastest performance, best value?

Your advice is dangerous.. in fact he should sue you for such stupid
suggestions. Get a life and a computer education before you say such
blundering nonsense.

My advice is keep away from vista and office 2007.


"KL" <noname@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:OWxMJE87GHA.244@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
>
> You can run it on your current machine but for the future dual core (or
> more) is certainly the way to go, it just makes sense considering the
> amount of multitasking even an average user has. Also, 64 bit is
> absolutely necessary, there are just so many limitations in 32bit to be
> feasable in the future although it wil of course take a long time before
> everything is 64 bit.
>
> About Access, currently there is no 64 bit odbc access driver, meaning if
> you have applications that depend on it (for example classic asp pages
> running on a dev machine) you might have a problem switching to 64 bit,
> although Access itself works just fine.
>
> KL.
>
>
> "Brossyg" <Brossyg@discussions.microsoft.com> skrev i meddelandet
> news:D1361F0E-8B70-4F3D-81CC-80AE98EF40CA@microsoft.com...[color=green]
>>I am currently running XP Pro 32-bit with a 3 gig Pentium 4 with 1 gig of
>>RAM
>> in a SOHO environment. My most taxing app is MS Access running a 250 meg
>> database with lots of bells & whistles. The database regularly uses
>> 100+% of
>> my CPU. The rest of the apps are pretty standard Office apps. I rip CDs
>> often with Win Media Player 11, which uses 100+% of my CPU.
>>
>> I would describe myself as a "practical" early-adopter, but not a
>> gearhead.
>> ....[/color]
>
>[/color]


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Old 01-01-2007, 09:44 PM
Yoshi
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Re: Fastest performance, best value?

Look who's talking... you should listen to yourself.


"John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message
news:ubjKmm87GHA.1496@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Your advice is dangerous.. in fact he should sue you for such stupid
> suggestions. Get a life and a computer education before you say such
> blundering nonsense.
>
> My advice is keep away from vista and office 2007.
>
>
> "KL" <noname@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:OWxMJE87GHA.244@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>>
>> You can run it on your current machine but for the future dual core (or
>> more) is certainly the way to go, it just makes sense considering the
>> amount of multitasking even an average user has. Also, 64 bit is
>> absolutely necessary, there are just so many limitations in 32bit to be
>> feasable in the future although it wil of course take a long time before
>> everything is 64 bit.
>>
>> About Access, currently there is no 64 bit odbc access driver, meaning if
>> you have applications that depend on it (for example classic asp pages
>> running on a dev machine) you might have a problem switching to 64 bit,
>> although Access itself works just fine.
>>
>> KL.
>>
>>
>> "Brossyg" <Brossyg@discussions.microsoft.com> skrev i meddelandet
>> news:D1361F0E-8B70-4F3D-81CC-80AE98EF40CA@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
>>>I am currently running XP Pro 32-bit with a 3 gig Pentium 4 with 1 gig of
>>>RAM
>>> in a SOHO environment. My most taxing app is MS Access running a 250
>>> meg
>>> database with lots of bells & whistles. The database regularly uses
>>> 100+% of
>>> my CPU. The rest of the apps are pretty standard Office apps. I rip
>>> CDs
>>> often with Win Media Player 11, which uses 100+% of my CPU.
>>>
>>> I would describe myself as a "practical" early-adopter, but not a
>>> gearhead.
>>> ....[/color]
>>
>>[/color]
>
>[/color]

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Old 01-01-2007, 09:44 PM
David Hankinson
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Re: Fastest performance, best value?

You're right, John, it's YOUR advice.

David


"John Jay Smith" wrote:
[color=blue]
> Your advice is dangerous.. in fact he should sue you for such stupid
> suggestions. Get a life and a computer education before you say such
> blundering nonsense.
>
> My advice is keep away from vista and office 2007.
>
>
> "KL" <noname@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:OWxMJE87GHA.244@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=green]
> >
> > You can run it on your current machine but for the future dual core (or
> > more) is certainly the way to go, it just makes sense considering the
> > amount of multitasking even an average user has. Also, 64 bit is
> > absolutely necessary, there are just so many limitations in 32bit to be
> > feasable in the future although it wil of course take a long time before
> > everything is 64 bit.
> >
> > About Access, currently there is no 64 bit odbc access driver, meaning if
> > you have applications that depend on it (for example classic asp pages
> > running on a dev machine) you might have a problem switching to 64 bit,
> > although Access itself works just fine.
> >
> > KL.
> >
> >
> > "Brossyg" <Brossyg@discussions.microsoft.com> skrev i meddelandet
> > news:D1361F0E-8B70-4F3D-81CC-80AE98EF40CA@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
> >>I am currently running XP Pro 32-bit with a 3 gig Pentium 4 with 1 gig of
> >>RAM
> >> in a SOHO environment. My most taxing app is MS Access running a 250 meg
> >> database with lots of bells & whistles. The database regularly uses
> >> 100+% of
> >> my CPU. The rest of the apps are pretty standard Office apps. I rip CDs
> >> often with Win Media Player 11, which uses 100+% of my CPU.
> >>
> >> I would describe myself as a "practical" early-adopter, but not a
> >> gearhead.
> >> ....[/color]
> >
> >[/color]
>
>
>[/color]
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Old 01-01-2007, 09:44 PM
Lang Murphy
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Re: Fastest performance, best value?

WTF is your hidden agenda? Decide to not take your Librium for a week or
two?

Lang

"John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message
news:ubjKmm87GHA.1496@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Your advice is dangerous.. in fact he should sue you for such stupid
> suggestions. Get a life and a computer education before you say such
> blundering nonsense.
>
> My advice is keep away from vista and office 2007.
>
>
> "KL" <noname@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:OWxMJE87GHA.244@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>>
>> You can run it on your current machine but for the future dual core (or
>> more) is certainly the way to go, it just makes sense considering the
>> amount of multitasking even an average user has. Also, 64 bit is
>> absolutely necessary, there are just so many limitations in 32bit to be
>> feasable in the future although it wil of course take a long time before
>> everything is 64 bit.
>>
>> About Access, currently there is no 64 bit odbc access driver, meaning if
>> you have applications that depend on it (for example classic asp pages
>> running on a dev machine) you might have a problem switching to 64 bit,
>> although Access itself works just fine.
>>
>> KL.
>>
>>
>> "Brossyg" <Brossyg@discussions.microsoft.com> skrev i meddelandet
>> news:D1361F0E-8B70-4F3D-81CC-80AE98EF40CA@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
>>>I am currently running XP Pro 32-bit with a 3 gig Pentium 4 with 1 gig of
>>>RAM
>>> in a SOHO environment. My most taxing app is MS Access running a 250
>>> meg
>>> database with lots of bells & whistles. The database regularly uses
>>> 100+% of
>>> my CPU. The rest of the apps are pretty standard Office apps. I rip
>>> CDs
>>> often with Win Media Player 11, which uses 100+% of my CPU.
>>>
>>> I would describe myself as a "practical" early-adopter, but not a
>>> gearhead.
>>> ....[/color]
>>
>>[/color]
>
>[/color]

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Old 01-01-2007, 09:44 PM
Lang Murphy
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Re: Fastest performance, best value?

Too bad he doesn't keep it to himself. A self-aggrandizing malcontent of the
first order.

Lang

"David Hankinson" <DavidHankinson@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:400D1F64-455B-4E63-B0BA-5CDF5E7D8C4A@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> You're right, John, it's YOUR advice.
>
> David
>
>
> "John Jay Smith" wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Your advice is dangerous.. in fact he should sue you for such stupid
>> suggestions. Get a life and a computer education before you say such
>> blundering nonsense.
>>
>> My advice is keep away from vista and office 2007.
>>
>>
>> "KL" <noname@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>> news:OWxMJE87GHA.244@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>> >
>> > You can run it on your current machine but for the future dual core (or
>> > more) is certainly the way to go, it just makes sense considering the
>> > amount of multitasking even an average user has. Also, 64 bit is
>> > absolutely necessary, there are just so many limitations in 32bit to be
>> > feasable in the future although it wil of course take a long time
>> > before
>> > everything is 64 bit.
>> >
>> > About Access, currently there is no 64 bit odbc access driver, meaning
>> > if
>> > you have applications that depend on it (for example classic asp pages
>> > running on a dev machine) you might have a problem switching to 64 bit,
>> > although Access itself works just fine.
>> >
>> > KL.
>> >
>> >
>> > "Brossyg" <Brossyg@discussions.microsoft.com> skrev i meddelandet
>> > news:D1361F0E-8B70-4F3D-81CC-80AE98EF40CA@microsoft.com...
>> >>I am currently running XP Pro 32-bit with a 3 gig Pentium 4 with 1 gig
>> >>of
>> >>RAM
>> >> in a SOHO environment. My most taxing app is MS Access running a 250
>> >> meg
>> >> database with lots of bells & whistles. The database regularly uses
>> >> 100+% of
>> >> my CPU. The rest of the apps are pretty standard Office apps. I rip
>> >> CDs
>> >> often with Win Media Player 11, which uses 100+% of my CPU.
>> >>
>> >> I would describe myself as a "practical" early-adopter, but not a
>> >> gearhead.
>> >> ....
>> >
>> >[/color]
>>
>>
>>[/color][/color]

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Old 01-01-2007, 09:44 PM
Lang Murphy
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Re: Fastest performance, best value?

Get whatever you can afford. If you go for x64, make sure there are drivers
for all your hw before you take that plunge. I don't know that a 250MB
Access database will benefit all that much from x64. Let me repeat... I
don't know... it may benefit a lot or not enough to make a difference.
Someone other than myself may offer more experienced advice in that area.

Lang


"Brossyg" <Brossyg@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:D1361F0E-8B70-4F3D-81CC-80AE98EF40CA@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
>I am currently running XP Pro 32-bit with a 3 gig Pentium 4 with 1 gig of
>RAM
> in a SOHO environment. My most taxing app is MS Access running a 250 meg
> database with lots of bells & whistles. The database regularly uses 100+%
> of
> my CPU. The rest of the apps are pretty standard Office apps. I rip CDs
> often with Win Media Player 11, which uses 100+% of my CPU.
>
> I would describe myself as a "practical" early-adopter, but not a
> gearhead.
>
> After Jan 1, 2007 I plan to buy a new computer. I am thinking of a
> 2nd-from-the fastest Core2Duo with 64-bit Vista, the new Office 2007, 10k
> or
> 15k SAS drives and 2 gig of RAM. Alternatively, I might use the 5100
> series
> Xeon chip.
>
> What configuration would be the fastest, but also best value? Will the
> Office 2007 version of Access be a speed demon on 64-bit Vista with a
> Core2Duo, or does 64-bit make a difference with these basic Office apps?
> I
> haven't been able to find a concise article that lays this out for the
> SOHO
> user.
>
> Thanks for your thoughts.[/color]

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Old 01-01-2007, 09:44 PM
Lang Murphy
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Re: Fastest performance, best value?

I bet he's not even running Vista on anything... just posting hate mail here
cause he's either a linux or mac nut.

Lang

"Yoshi" <yoshi@home.com> wrote in message
news:7D2529C7-6CD0-4203-BC83-6B054A7E86B2@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> Look who's talking... you should listen to yourself.
>
>
> "John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message
> news:ubjKmm87GHA.1496@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> Your advice is dangerous.. in fact he should sue you for such stupid
>> suggestions. Get a life and a computer education before you say such
>> blundering nonsense.
>>
>> My advice is keep away from vista and office 2007.
>>
>>
>> "KL" <noname@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>> news:OWxMJE87GHA.244@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> You can run it on your current machine but for the future dual core (or
>>> more) is certainly the way to go, it just makes sense considering the
>>> amount of multitasking even an average user has. Also, 64 bit is
>>> absolutely necessary, there are just so many limitations in 32bit to be
>>> feasable in the future although it wil of course take a long time before
>>> everything is 64 bit.
>>>
>>> About Access, currently there is no 64 bit odbc access driver, meaning
>>> if you have applications that depend on it (for example classic asp
>>> pages running on a dev machine) you might have a problem switching to 64
>>> bit, although Access itself works just fine.
>>>
>>> KL.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Brossyg" <Brossyg@discussions.microsoft.com> skrev i meddelandet
>>> news:D1361F0E-8B70-4F3D-81CC-80AE98EF40CA@microsoft.com...
>>>>I am currently running XP Pro 32-bit with a 3 gig Pentium 4 with 1 gig
>>>>of RAM
>>>> in a SOHO environment. My most taxing app is MS Access running a 250
>>>> meg
>>>> database with lots of bells & whistles. The database regularly uses
>>>> 100+% of
>>>> my CPU. The rest of the apps are pretty standard Office apps. I rip
>>>> CDs
>>>> often with Win Media Player 11, which uses 100+% of my CPU.
>>>>
>>>> I would describe myself as a "practical" early-adopter, but not a
>>>> gearhead.
>>>> ....
>>>
>>>[/color]
>>
>>[/color]
>[/color]

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Re: Fastest performance, best value?


You are just embarrasing yourself.

KL


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> Your advice is dangerous.. in fact he should sue you for such stupid
> suggestions. Get a life and a computer education before you say such
> blundering nonsense.[/color]



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