A technically-oriented representative at one of the nation's large 'box'
houses suggested that:

1. I stay w/XP-MCE, that Vista (Premium) still has a lot of problems
2. Vista is NOT compatible with Office 2002, that trying to get Office 2002
to work with Vista will be a serious challenge thus requiring an upgrade to
Office 2003 (minimally) or Office 2007.
3. Office 2007 is NOT compatible with XP-MCE (should reverting back to XP be
necessary)
4. Once upgrading to Vista is accomplished, that reverting back to XP-MCE
will require a total restore.

Comments from those experienced with these questions/problems will be
greatly appreciated.

WayneD

Office 95 works. There are compat shims applied to all of Office 2002 (which
was called XP), the same ones for 2003 which basicallly turn off UI stuff on
terminal server and doesn't let DWN rescale it's windows.
"WGD" <wgd.roaming@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:LJxSh.3867$SK3.3520@trnddc03...[color=blue]
>A technically-oriented representative at one of the nation's large 'box'
>houses suggested that:
>
> 1. I stay w/XP-MCE, that Vista (Premium) still has a lot of problems
> 2. Vista is NOT compatible with Office 2002, that trying to get Office
> 2002 to work with Vista will be a serious challenge thus requiring an
> upgrade to Office 2003 (minimally) or Office 2007.
> 3. Office 2007 is NOT compatible with XP-MCE (should reverting back to XP
> be necessary)
> 4. Once upgrading to Vista is accomplished, that reverting back to XP-MCE
> will require a total restore.
>
> Comments from those experienced with these questions/problems will be
> greatly appreciated.
>
> WayneD
>
>
>
>
>[/color]

Don't listen to those idiots at Best-Buy, Home-Depot, Bed, Bath, & Beyond,
etc....

Vista will work with Office 2002 and above but I think there are some issues
with saving passwords in Outlook 2002. Is there a compelling reason you
want to move to Vista right now? Does XP fill your needs? Office 2007
works with XP-MCE, I haven't noticed any problems.


"WGD" <wgd.roaming@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:LJxSh.3867$SK3.3520@trnddc03...[color=blue]
>A technically-oriented representative at one of the nation's large 'box'
>houses suggested that:
>
> 1. I stay w/XP-MCE, that Vista (Premium) still has a lot of problems
> 2. Vista is NOT compatible with Office 2002, that trying to get Office
> 2002 to work with Vista will be a serious challenge thus requiring an
> upgrade to Office 2003 (minimally) or Office 2007.
> 3. Office 2007 is NOT compatible with XP-MCE (should reverting back to XP
> be necessary)
> 4. Once upgrading to Vista is accomplished, that reverting back to XP-MCE
> will require a total restore.
>
> Comments from those experienced with these questions/problems will be
> greatly appreciated.
>
> WayneD
>
>
>
>
>[/color]

Yuturyryw jnyoipj bcbderwq sksytrterw mmspoiy AND THE HORSE YOU RODE IN ON!


<.> wrote in message news:OqnempueHHA.4308@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Office 95 works. There are compat shims applied to all of Office 2002
> (which was called XP), the same ones for 2003 which basicallly turn off UI
> stuff on terminal server and doesn't let DWN rescale it's windows.
> "WGD" <wgd.roaming@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:LJxSh.3867$SK3.3520@trnddc03...[color=green]
>>A technically-oriented representative at one of the nation's large 'box'
>>houses suggested that:
>>
>> 1. I stay w/XP-MCE, that Vista (Premium) still has a lot of problems
>> 2. Vista is NOT compatible with Office 2002, that trying to get Office
>> 2002 to work with Vista will be a serious challenge thus requiring an
>> upgrade to Office 2003 (minimally) or Office 2007.
>> 3. Office 2007 is NOT compatible with XP-MCE (should reverting back to XP
>> be necessary)
>> 4. Once upgrading to Vista is accomplished, that reverting back to XP-MCE
>> will require a total restore.
>>
>> Comments from those experienced with these questions/problems will be
>> greatly appreciated.
>>
>> WayneD
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>[/color]
>[/color]

oops. replied to the wrong post. PLS ignore.

"Bill Yanaire" <BillYanaire@viceman.com> wrote in message
news:eh2$TsueHHA.4944@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Yuturyryw jnyoipj bcbderwq sksytrterw mmspoiy AND THE HORSE YOU RODE IN
> ON!
>
>
> <.> wrote in message news:OqnempueHHA.4308@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> Office 95 works. There are compat shims applied to all of Office 2002
>> (which was called XP), the same ones for 2003 which basicallly turn off
>> UI stuff on terminal server and doesn't let DWN rescale it's windows.
>> "WGD" <wgd.roaming@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:LJxSh.3867$SK3.3520@trnddc03...[color=darkred]
>>>A technically-oriented representative at one of the nation's large 'box'
>>>houses suggested that:
>>>
>>> 1. I stay w/XP-MCE, that Vista (Premium) still has a lot of problems
>>> 2. Vista is NOT compatible with Office 2002, that trying to get Office
>>> 2002 to work with Vista will be a serious challenge thus requiring an
>>> upgrade to Office 2003 (minimally) or Office 2007.
>>> 3. Office 2007 is NOT compatible with XP-MCE (should reverting back to
>>> XP be necessary)
>>> 4. Once upgrading to Vista is accomplished, that reverting back to
>>> XP-MCE will require a total restore.
>>>
>>> Comments from those experienced with these questions/problems will be
>>> greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>> WayneD
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>[/color]
>>[/color]
>
>[/color]

Office XP and Office 2003 are both compatible with Windows Vista. A poster
noted though that Outlook 2002 will not remember your password in Vista, so
you'll have to enter it everytime you close Outlook or reboot. Office 2007
functions on XP MCE just as it does on Home, Professional, Tablet and
Professional x64 editions of Windows XP.
--
Andre
Blog: [url]http://adacosta.spaces.live.com[/url]
My Vista Quickstart Guide:
[url]http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!E8E5CC039D51E3DB!9709.entry[/url]
to enter it every time you close Outlook or reboot.
"WGD" <wgd.roaming@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:LJxSh.3867$SK3.3520@trnddc03...[color=blue]
>A technically-oriented representative at one of the nation's large 'box'
>houses suggested that:
>
> 1. I stay w/XP-MCE, that Vista (Premium) still has a lot of problems
> 2. Vista is NOT compatible with Office 2002, that trying to get Office
> 2002 to work with Vista will be a serious challenge thus requiring an
> upgrade to Office 2003 (minimally) or Office 2007.
> 3. Office 2007 is NOT compatible with XP-MCE (should reverting back to XP
> be necessary)
> 4. Once upgrading to Vista is accomplished, that reverting back to XP-MCE
> will require a total restore.
>
> Comments from those experienced with these questions/problems will be
> greatly appreciated.
>
> WayneD
>
>
>
>
>[/color]

No 'compelling' reason to move OTHER than the fact that I am experiencing
BSOD on a 3mth old machine (dual core, etc w/2G made up of 4 sticks). Kind
of figured that moving forward to a new OS 'may' get ride of the BSs. You
guessed it! A Best Buy chap said to stay away from Vista. Also found out
that reverting to XP-MCE will RESTORE the drive, not simply redo the OS
only. Also, re the BSs, maybe a mem problem. (Some BS msgs note Mem Mngr
problem.) I just ran MSs Win Mem Diag. This utility goes back to 2003!
Is it valid for a 2006 dual core machine?? Or doesn't it matter? (I have
not yet run one stick at a time), so when the Diag sees all, the TWO LSBytes
are 'always' other than what was applied. Saw same mem problems when I ran
a mem check via a Linux Live CD.

Sounds like I am better off, first, to check all memory, a stick at a time.
Yes?

Apps including chunky Photoshop, run fine. It is the unexpected BSOD that
is annoying (to say the least).

Maybe give MS 6 mths or so to clean up Vista? (Rcvd a 'free' upgrade
w/machine purchased Jan 07.)

Appreciate the feedback, even to kooky ones! ie: Yuturyryw jnyoipj
bcbderwq sksytrterw mmspoiy AND THE HORSE YOU RODE IN ON!

Best,
WayneD




"Bill Yanaire" <BillYanaire@viceman.com> wrote in message
news:ONJw6queHHA.5056@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Don't listen to those idiots at Best-Buy, Home-Depot, Bed, Bath, & Beyond,
> etc....
>
> Vista will work with Office 2002 and above but I think there are some
> issues with saving passwords in Outlook 2002. Is there a compelling
> reason you want to move to Vista right now? Does XP fill your needs?
> Office 2007 works with XP-MCE, I haven't noticed any problems.
>
>
> "WGD" <wgd.roaming@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:LJxSh.3867$SK3.3520@trnddc03...[color=green]
>>A technically-oriented representative at one of the nation's large 'box'
>>houses suggested that:
>>
>> 1. I stay w/XP-MCE, that Vista (Premium) still has a lot of problems
>> 2. Vista is NOT compatible with Office 2002, that trying to get Office
>> 2002 to work with Vista will be a serious challenge thus requiring an
>> upgrade to Office 2003 (minimally) or Office 2007.
>> 3. Office 2007 is NOT compatible with XP-MCE (should reverting back to XP
>> be necessary)
>> 4. Once upgrading to Vista is accomplished, that reverting back to XP-MCE
>> will require a total restore.
>>
>> Comments from those experienced with these questions/problems will be
>> greatly appreciated.
>>
>> WayneD
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>[/color]
>
>[/color]

On Mon, 09 Apr 2007 20:54:03 +0000, WGD wrote:
[color=blue]
> A technically-oriented representative at one of the nation's large 'box'
> houses suggested that:
>
> 1. I stay w/XP-MCE, that Vista (Premium) still has a lot of problems[/color]

I would concur - wait for SP1.
[color=blue]
> 2. Vista is NOT compatible with Office 2002, that trying to get Office 2002
> to work with Vista will be a serious challenge thus requiring an upgrade to
> Office 2003 (minimally) or Office 2007.
> 3. Office 2007 is NOT compatible with XP-MCE (should reverting back to XP be
> necessary)[/color]

Simple alternative - download OpenOffice.org - all of the capability
except some advanced macro handling.
[color=blue]
> 4. Once upgrading to Vista is accomplished, that reverting back to XP-MCE
> will require a total restore.[/color]

That is my understanding.
[color=blue]
>
> Comments from those experienced with these questions/problems will be
> greatly appreciated.
>
> WayneD[/color]

"WGD" <wgd.roaming@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:LJxSh.3867$SK3.3520@trnddc03...[color=blue]
>A technically-oriented representative at one of the nation's large 'box'
>houses...[/color]


I'm sorry, but that statement is extremely unlikely. I fear you've been
deceived. No one with any real technical ability will be working for the
sub-standard wages a big box store pays.



....suggested that:[color=blue]
>
> 1. I stay w/XP-MCE, that Vista (Premium) still has a lot of problems[/color]


Not on compatible hardware...

[color=blue]
> 2. Vista is NOT compatible with Office 2002, that trying to get Office
> 2002 to work with Vista will be a serious challenge thus requiring an
> upgrade to Office 2003 (minimally) or Office 2007.[/color]


Further proof that said individual is NOT technically "orientated."
Although, for optimal performance, Office XP (a.k.a. 2002) should be
upgraded to SP3.

[color=blue]
> 3. Office 2007 is NOT compatible with XP-MCE (should reverting back to XP
> be necessary)[/color]


Another lie. Office 2007 is perfectly compatible with WinXP SP2, and
therefore WinXP MCE.

[color=blue]
> 4. Once upgrading to Vista is accomplished, that reverting back to XP-MCE
> will require a total restore.
>[/color]

Well, he got one right! I've never heard of any OS that permits
in-place downgrades.



--
Bruce Chambers

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"WGD" <wgd.roaming@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:rSASh.4162$SK3.219@trnddc03...[color=blue]
> No 'compelling' reason to move OTHER than the fact that I am experiencing
> BSOD on a 3mth old machine (dual core, etc w/2G made up of 4 sticks).
> Kind of figured that moving forward to a new OS 'may' get ride of the BSs.[/color]


Changing the OS won't fix what is most likely a hardware problem.

[color=blue]
>Also, re the BSs, maybe a mem problem. (Some BS msgs note Mem Mngr
>problem.) I just ran MSs Win Mem Diag. This utility goes back to 2003![/color]

It's not quite worthless, but also not quite ready for prime time. Try
Memtest86:
[url]http://www.memtest86.com/[/url]


--
Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:
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They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin

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WGD wrote:
[color=blue]
> A technically-oriented representative at one of the nation's large
> 'box' houses suggested that:[/color]


You mean a chain store like Best Buy or CompUSA?

Be very wary of getting any advice from people like this at the big chain
computer store.Very few of these people know what they are talking about.
Most of the people at computer stores (especially the big chain stores) are
usually hired because of their willingness to accept something close to
minimum wage, not because of their technical proficiency. If they knew
anything, they could almost certainly get a better job.

There are some exceptions, but computer store salesman are generally among
the *poorest* sources of computer information. Based on what you've been
told, your "technically-oriented representative" is not one of those
exceptions.


[color=blue]
> 1. I stay w/XP-MCE, that Vista (Premium) still has a lot of problems[/color]


I've been running Vista Ultimate here since November 18. I've experienced
zero problems with it.

That doesn't mean that nobody has any problems with it. There are always
some problems in any new computer program, and the newer the product, the
more likely there is to be problems. But as new operating systems go, my
experience is that there are have been very few problems with Vista.

Nevertheless, my view is that you're going about this backward. A change of
operating system should be driven by need, not just because there is a new
version available. Are you having a problem with Windows XP that you expect
Vista to solve? Do you have or expect to get new hardware or software that
is supported in Vista, but not in XP? Is there some new feature in Vista
that you need or yearn for? Does your job require you have skills in Vista?
Are you a computer hobbyist who enjoys playing with whatever is newest?

If the answer to one or more of those questions is yes (and your hardware is
adequate for Vista), then you should get Vista. Otherwise most people should
stick with what they have. There is *always* a learning curve and a
potential for problems when you take a step as big as this one, regardless
of how wonderful whatever you're contemplating moving to is. Sooner or later
you'll have to upgrade (to Vista or its successor) because you'll want
support for hardware or software that you can't get in Vista, but don't rush
it.

[color=blue]
> 2. Vista is NOT compatible with Office 2002, that trying to get
> Office 2002 to work with Vista will be a serious challenge thus
> requiring an upgrade to Office 2003 (minimally) or Office 2007.[/color]


That's simply false. The only problem is that with Outlook, you will need to
enter your userid and password each time. Vista can't save it.

[color=blue]
> 3. Office 2007 is NOT compatible with XP-MCE (should reverting back
> to XP be necessary)[/color]


Again, completely false. See
[url]http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/products/ha101668651033.aspx[/url]

[color=blue]
> 4. Once upgrading to Vista is accomplished, that reverting back to
> XP-MCE will require a total restore.[/color]


That's correct.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
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[color=blue]
> Comments from those experienced with these questions/problems will be
> greatly appreciated.
>
> WayneD[/color]